Why is forgiveness not one of the ten commandments?

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zeroturbulence

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Why is forgiveness or mercy not part of any of the ten commandments?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Why is forgiveness or mercy not part of any of the ten commandments?

Not all things which are sin or commands to do are a part of the ten God gave Moses. God gave ten to Moses to chow us how sinful we are. We can't even fulfill 10 things he asked us not to do.

If god gave us every command which he considered sin, it would take a whole book, and quite large one. Instead he gave us ten. and said you can not even do this. (no one ever has But Christ)

which is why I think it amazing when someone s=thinks they can be righteous. for no one can even do the ten God gave us.. let alone follow the hundreds he did not.
 

zeroturbulence

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Not all things which are sin or commands to do are a part of the ten God gave Moses. God gave ten to Moses to chow us how sinful we are. We can't even fulfill 10 things he asked us not to do.

If god gave us every command which he considered sin, it would take a whole book, and quite large one. Instead he gave us ten. and said you can not even do this. (no one ever has But Christ)

which is why I think it amazing when someone s=thinks they can be righteous. for no one can even do the ten God gave us.. let alone follow the hundreds he did not.
I agree with what you said, but forgiveness is such an incredibly huge part of God's plan that it is even in The Lord's Prayer given to us by Jesus (...forgive us...as we forgive those who...) so I am wondering why He would leave such a huge thing out of his big ten?
 
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I agree with what you said, but forgiveness is such an incredibly huge part of God's plan that it is even in The Lord's Prayer given to us by Jesus (...forgive us...as we forgive those who...) so I am wondering why He would leave such a huge thing out of his big ten?

I guess my only answer is we will have to ask him when we see him. I really don't know, but to know he had a good reason.
 

zeroturbulence

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I guess my only answer is we will have to ask him when we see him. I really don't know, but to know he had a good reason.
I actually have what I feel is a good answer in mind, but I want to see what others think about it.

I will post my answer after I get a few more responses. Thank you for yours.
 
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Actually the book of the law (Torah) contains 613 written laws and instructions pertaining to all areas of the Hebrew's life, including ceremonial, civil, and moral. It is quite inclusive.

Forgiveness was not required under the law. In fact, the law required full payment or retribution for transgressions, and had no forgiveness clause. One, therefore, cannot expect the law to speak of forgiveness.

We, as sons of Jesus Christ, have been bought, and realize that it is only by God's great mercy and grace, that our debts are paid, (law satisfied). In Christ's kingdom, we realize that we cannot satisfy the law, and since we are forgiven without paying the debt, therefore we are required to forgive others as well.
 
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I agree with what you said, but forgiveness is such an incredibly huge part of God's plan that it is even in The Lord's Prayer given to us by Jesus (...forgive us...as we forgive those who...) so I am wondering why He would leave such a huge thing out of his big ten?
Everything He does is good. If He didn't put it, then it was for a good reason.
You actually don't and can't understand everything God does.
 
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Actually the book of the law (Torah) contains 613 written laws and instructions pertaining to all areas of the Hebrew's life, including ceremonial, civil, and moral. It is quite inclusive.

Forgiveness was not required under the law. In fact, the law required full payment or retribution for transgressions, and had no forgiveness clause. One, therefore, cannot expect the law to speak of forgiveness.

We, as sons of Jesus Christ, have been bought, and realize that it is only by God's great mercy and grace, that our debts are paid, (law satisfied). In Christ's kingdom, we realize that we cannot satisfy the law, and since we are forgiven without paying the debt, therefore we are required to forgive others as well.
I like this answer. Thanks
 

zeroturbulence

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Actually the book of the law (Torah) contains 613 written laws and instructions pertaining to all areas of the Hebrew's life, including ceremonial, civil, and moral. It is quite inclusive.

Forgiveness was not required under the law. In fact, the law required full payment or retribution for transgressions, and had no forgiveness clause. One, therefore, cannot expect the law to speak of forgiveness.

We, as sons of Jesus Christ, have been bought, and realize that it is only by God's great mercy and grace, that our debts are paid, (law satisfied). In Christ's kingdom, we realize that we cannot satisfy the law, and since we are forgiven without paying the debt, therefore we are required to forgive others as well.
Thats much better than the answer I had in mind! Sounds good to me. :)

I was going to say that the problem is that we keep reliving the anger and unforgiveness in our minds even after we decided to forgive so it would be almost impossible to keep such a commandment.
 
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pickles

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The law was to show us what sin is.
Jesus said, I came to fullfill the law, it is finished!
Jesus is the sacrifice, and the fullfillment, bringing forgiveness, grace, freedom from the law.

God bless.
pickles
 

phil36

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Why is forgiveness or mercy not part of any of the ten commandments?

Hi zeroturbulence.

The Ten commanments don't directly deal with forgiveness, but they are summerization of the whole law. So superdave pointed you in that direction :)

Pickles also brought out that we cannot view the Old except through the work of our Lord and Saviour, amen.

So what how does Jesus view the Old.

Matthew 22:34-40.

34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”


You will find these sayings in:

Deut 6:5 ---- 5 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

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Lev 19:19 --- 18 “‘Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.

In order not to bear a grudge or seek revenge implies that you must forgive them, However the law allows for Justice.
 
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Why is forgiveness or mercy not part of any of the ten commandments?
But the 2 greatest commandments complete all commandments including forgiveness AMEN
 
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Gabriel777

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Maybe we weren't able to truly forgive people without the Holy Spirit?
 
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Crazy4GODword

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Maybe we weren't able to truly forgive people without the Holy Spirit?
yeah i see that too, they didn't have what we have today as believers
 
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The 10 commandments are laws of love,to love God and love people,which can apply to more than that,which the Bible says love works no harm towards their neighbor,therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Loving God and loving people are the 2 greatest commandments,to not offend God and not offend people in any way,which is true love,which is the fulfilling of the law.

The 10 commandments include laws to not offend people in their basic form,which sets a base to know not to offend your neighbor in anything,that does not need to be specifically included in the 10 commandments.With the 10 commandments that are laws to not offend God and not offend people,it becomes common sense not to offend God and people in all areas.

If everybody obeyed the 10 commandments,and truly loved one another,in which love does not offend their neighbor in any way,then what would there be to forgive.To follow the 10 commandments obeyed by everyone,we would not have to forgive anyone,for nobody would offend.

The 10 commandments are laws of love that cover not offending God and not offending people only,and forgiveness is not a law of not offending a person,but an act of someone offending you and you dismissing it by forgiving that person.Forgiveness is not a law of you not offending people,so it is not included in the 10 commandments.
 
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Why is forgiveness or mercy not part of any of the ten commandments?

comandments are to be broken, for they are only laws.
but if we dont break the commandments, because we love God more than we love ourselfs, this makes it perfect in Gods eyes; and then mercy will be given.
even if we do good, all our lives it still wont be enough to pay for the ticket to heaven.
so we need that mercy.we can not get there by works. for all the good works you do all your live is not enough to pay for that ticket to everlasting life.
you can not compare100yrs of good work to everlasting life.

''wakeup''.
 
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Why is forgiveness or mercy not part of any of the ten commandments?
The law is not limited to the Ten Commandments. Jesus said the entire law and prophets are based on two laws:

We are to love the Lord our God with all our hearts minds, and souls, and love our neighbors as ourselves.

Forgiveness and mercy are included in these two commandments.
 
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MaggieMye

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Everything is summed up in "I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt have no other gods before me", and "Love thy neighbor as thyself". This INCLUDES forgiveness and also sums up the Original 10.
 
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Actually the book of the law (Torah) contains 613 written laws and instructions pertaining to all areas of the Hebrew's life, including ceremonial, civil, and moral. It is quite inclusive.

Forgiveness was not required under the law. In fact, the law required full payment or retribution for transgressions, and had no forgiveness clause. One, therefore, cannot expect the law to speak of forgiveness.

We, as sons of Jesus Christ, have been bought, and realize that it is only by God's great mercy and grace, that our debts are paid, (law satisfied). In Christ's kingdom, we realize that we cannot satisfy the law, and since we are forgiven without paying the debt, therefore we are required to forgive others as well.
If you get out your concordance and look up atonement you will find that God has always been God, a forgiving God and made ways for atonement. Christ was there during creation, the entire sacrificial system of the OT was a shadow of Christ.

The NT includes a fulfillment of the 613 laws, Christ said so and said not a jot would be wiped out.

If you study all the law, you will find that to judge and condemn your fellow man, something that only God can do, you are not making God the one true God but taking on what is only God's to do. Perhaps the first commandment covers this.