why Jerusalem-Mnt Sion (Mnt Moriah)

Dutch41 · Mar 29, 2011

Why Jerusalem, why mnt Sion( Moriah)
Interesting is why the Lord choose Jerusalem, mnt Sion.
The name Moria means choosen by YHWH
1. Because it was at that place Abraham was willing to offer his son Isaac. (Gen 11:1-9)
2. Because Abraham believed that that the Lord was by might to raise his son out of the death (Hebr 11:17-19)
3. At that place the Lord wanted choose to cause His name to dwell there. (Dt 12:11)
4. That place David choose.
5. There built Salomo the temple of the Lord
6. At that mountain YHWH provide for Himself an offer.

It is the mountain of the Lord. And Jerusalem is the only city in the world that YHWH claimed for Himself. (Ps 132:7-18)
Jerusalem is chosen by the Lord Himself. And there in Jerusalem gave the Lord His holy Spirit. There in Jerusalem the first church was born. And there the nations will go again… to feast the feasts and the offering. There in Jerusalem the Lord will come back. And His feet will stand at Mnt Olive. There where now is a mosque, at that mountain.. He will put His feet at that mosque. And the mountain will split. And everybody will see who He is.
That’s why Jerusalem and mnt Sion (Moriah) is it the city of God.

Crazy4GODword · Mar 29, 2011

but i thought that the new Jerusalem is heaven where our new King reigns forever.....also Jerusalem on earth is His too

Dutch41 · Mar 29, 2011

New Jerusalem is in the heaven. But once Jesus is coming back. And His feet will stand at the mnt Olive.
(Zach 14:4, Act 1:11). And He will reign from Jerusalem. He will reign from Mnt Sion. (Ps 2:6-12)

journey41 · Mar 29, 2011

Dutch41 said:

Why Jerusalem, why mnt Sion( Moriah)
Interesting is why the Lord choose Jerusalem, mnt Sion.
The name Moria means choosen by YHWH
1. Because it was at that place Abraham was willing to offer his son Isaac. (Gen 11:1-9)
2. Because Abraham believed that that the Lord was by might to raise his son out of the death (Hebr 11:17-19)
3. At that place the Lord wanted choose to cause His name to dwell there. (Dt 12:11)
4. That place David choose.
5. There built Salomo the temple of the Lord
6. At that mountain YHWH provide for Himself an offer.

It is the mountain of the Lord. And Jerusalem is the only city in the world that YHWH claimed for Himself. (Ps 132:7-18)
Jerusalem is chosen by the Lord Himself. And there in Jerusalem gave the Lord His holy Spirit. There in Jerusalem the first church was born. And there the nations will go again… to feast the feasts and the offering. There in Jerusalem the Lord will come back. And His feet will stand at Mnt Olive. There where now is a mosque, at that mountain.. He will put His feet at that mosque. And the mountain will split. And everybody will see who He is.
That’s why Jerusalem and mnt Sion (Moriah) is it the city of God.

[/QUOTE]Yes Dutch, and Jerusalem means City of Peace. Prophecy. God Bless.

Dutch41 · Mar 29, 2011

journey41 said:

VRJ · Mar 29, 2011

Zechariah 14:4; "And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south."

John 4:21; "Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father."

Jesus told the woman at the well that you would not worship at Jerusalem. In other words he was putting forth not a physical but a spiritual kingdom. He came down from the Mt. of Olives and set up a spiritual kingdom. Luke 17:21; "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."

Luke 19:11; "And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear."

Galatians 4:26; "But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all."

Galatians 4:9; "But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?" Putting forth the notion that we are to turn our attention to a physical Jerusalem put us back under the law and bondage...Galatians 4:24,25; "Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants: the one from mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. (25) For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children."

Galatians 3:16,17; "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. (17) And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect."

Hebrews 12:22; "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and an innumerable company of angels.

John 4:23; "But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him."

Revelation 21:2; "And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."

This is telling us that His feet was on that Mt. of Olives. He came all ready. He set up his spiritual kingdom. Joel 3:14 tells us that there is a split and you see the two groups in Revelation. The one group is called the multitude. "Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision."

The decision is are you going to continue to lift up this physical construct called Jerusalem or or you born again in Christ, as he told the woman at the well, that you are now spiritual Israel(Romans 2:28,29). The Jerusalem from above is free which is New Jerusalem. It's within you. The Multitudes in Revelation are the ones purged for not recognizing spiritual Israel but continue to lift up the physical Israel as the apple of Gods eye. That is the abomination of desolation.

Dutch41 · Mar 29, 2011

VRJ said:

Well if that is true: Than there is a problem:
- Zech 14:1 1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished. And half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
-3 Then shall the LORD go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fought in the day of battle. And His feet shall stand in that day upon the Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley, and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north and half of it toward the south.
- Zech 12:6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem. 7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah. 8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them. 9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
- Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man comes, shall he find faith on the earth?
- Acts 1:10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel,11 who also said, "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who is taken up from you into Heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into Heaven."
- 10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel,
- John 19:11 And again another scripture said, They shall look on him whom they pierced.."(see Zach 12:6)
- Rev 1:7 Behold, he comes with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. (See Zach 12:6 and John 19:11)

Is this happen? No.. it isn’t. YHWH is clear: Once Jesus is coming back, and His feet will stand at the mount Olive. Is His feet standing there? At the Mnt Olive is an mosque.
When the disciples asking Jesus "Lord, wilt Thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?" Jesus answered with: “Don’t you understand it yet? There isn’t coming a physical Israel. There is coming a spiritual Israel. Israel is replaced by a new nation”
No, He didn’t said that Jesus said: "It is not for you to know the times or the seasons which the Father hath put in His own power. But ye shall receive power after the Holy Spirit is come upon you; and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."

And is this true? Of course.. because this is for now. Not for when Jesus is back. We have now the Holy Spirit. So, at this moment we are His temple,
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? (3:17, 6:19 2Cor 6:16) And why? Because at this moment there isn’t a temple, where the Living God lives.

It is good that you looked at Joel 3:14. Because what is the context?
14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision. 15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. 16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.17 So shall you know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more. 18 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth out of the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of ****tim.
Is this in the context from Rev 21:2? Nooo… it isn’t This is when Jesus is coming back and His feet is standing at Mnt Olive. The mount Zion is now where the Al Aqsa mosque is standing. And the Masjid Qubbat As-Sakhrah.
About the meaning Gal 4 I will tell later

journey41 · Mar 30, 2011

Dutch41 said:

Well if that is true: Than there is a problem:
- Zech 14:1 1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished. And half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
-3 Then shall the LORD go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fought in the day of battle. And His feet shall stand in that day upon the Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley, and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north and half of it toward the south.
- Zech 12:6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem. 7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah. 8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them. 9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
- Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man comes, shall he find faith on the earth?
- Acts 1:10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel,11 who also said, "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who is taken up from you into Heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into Heaven."
- 10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel,
- John 19:11 And again another scripture said, They shall look on him whom they pierced.."(see Zach 12:6)
- Rev 1:7 Behold, he comes with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. (See Zach 12:6 and John 19:11)

Is this happen? No.. it isn’t. YHWH is clear: Once Jesus is coming back, and His feet will stand at the mount Olive. Is His feet standing there? At the Mnt Olive is an mosque.
When the disciples asking Jesus "Lord, wilt Thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?" Jesus answered with: “Don’t you understand it yet? There isn’t coming a physical Israel. There is coming a spiritual Israel. Israel is replaced by a new nation”
No, He didn’t said that Jesus said: "It is not for you to know the times or the seasons which the Father hath put in His own power. But ye shall receive power after the Holy Spirit is come upon you; and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."

And is this true? Of course.. because this is for now. Not for when Jesus is back. We have now the Holy Spirit. So, at this moment we are His temple,
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? (3:17, 6:19 2Cor 6:16) And why? Because at this moment there isn’t a temple, where the Living God lives.

It is good that you looked at Joel 3:14. Because what is the context?
14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision. 15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. 16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.17 So shall you know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more. 18 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth out of the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of ****tim.
Is this in the context from Rev 21:2? Nooo… it isn’t This is when Jesus is coming back and His feet is standing at Mnt Olive. The mount Zion is now where the Al Aqsa mosque is standing. And the Masjid Qubbat As-Sakhrah.
About the meaning Gal 4 I will tell later

[/QUOTE]Good proof you have provided there Dutch.The New Jerusalem comes out of heaven after the 1000 years when Jesus hands his kingdom back to the Father. The New Jerusalem is in Heaven, you got that right, and Jesus rules on the earth. His authority comes from Heaven, and because we worship him, we are obeying God who sits in the throne room. We will be spirit then during the 1000 years, and will have access to heaven , but those in the flesh wont, so their place is on the holy mountain in Jerusalem, then they can be part of the New Jerusalem when God melts the earth and all who here will be spirit.

Dutch41 · Mar 30, 2011

Journey41 said:

I think the Bible is very clear about this. And of course there are several thoughts about how it looks.. But the interesting part is: Here met the Evangelic brothers the Reform brothers. Of course there is a different view about how it will happen.

Dutch41 said:

We are a temple of the Lord, because the Lord lives in us. And that Jesus isn't return.. we can see at this: John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it sees him not, neither knows him: but you know him; for he dwells with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Because of that, we need the Holy Spirit.. He replaced Jesus.(John 16:7)
Thats why too Jesus isn't come yet.

Dutch41 · Mar 30, 2011

VRJ said:

So actually you said: the Jews aren't the seed from Abraham?
Peter don't agree with you when he said:Acts 3:25 You are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, And in your seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Paul doesn't agree with you too, when he said:Acts 13:26 Men and brothers, children of the stock of Abraham, and whoever among you fears God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.

Don't forget to type Rom 4:18 Abraham, against all hope, believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which had been spoken, "So shall thy seed be."(see Gen 12:3, 22:18)

But we are childeren from Abraham from the spirit not from the flesh.

Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye who desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, but he of the freewoman was by promise.

Paul ask here a question: Not who is your father.. but who is your mother. (The Jew said.. Who the father is can be a question, but everybody knows the mother)
Is your mother in capture (Hagar) or free (Sara). That is the question.. Are you born by a miracle by the mercy of God or by human planning?

24 These things are an allegory, for these are the two covenants: The one is from Mount Sinai, which engendereth bondage; this is Hagar.
25 For this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and answereth to Jerusalem as it is now, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But the Jerusalem which is above is free, and is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written: "Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not; for the desolate hath many more children than she who hath a husband."

Here is an allegorie from 2 covenants the one made by the Sinai and the Abrahamic covenant. It means, and I agree with you.. that Jerusalem with Judaism now days is the image of Hagar... the slave. It is the old covenant. So actually it said.. Jerusalem that is above is free, and the Jerusalem at the earth is not free. Paul didn't attacked the city of Jerusalem, and said.. well it is replaced. And the Lord don't live there any more.. it don't say.. the promise for Israel/Jerusalem isn't any more. Because the Lord promise in 1Kon 9:3, 8:29, deut 12:11, Ps 132:13-14) The Lord His Name will be there for ever and ever. He said actually: if you wanted to be free..than you have to focus at the Freedom.. the one can only Jesus give.

And the Isaiah said ." For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

Because in vs 27:For it is written: "Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not; for the desolate hath many more children than she who hath a husband."(See Is 54:1)

This isn't going to happen in the heaven. Paul see indeed a nation of God who come forth out of the New Jerusalem. But it doesn't say anything about the replacement.

VRJ · Mar 31, 2011

Dutch41,

You said( that I said) the Jews aren't from the seed of Abraham?

Galatians 3:16,17,18; "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, AND TO THY SEED(Jeremiah 23:7,8), which is Christ. (17) And this I say, that the covenant (Genesis 17), that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after (after what? the law) cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. (18) For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise."

Jeremiah 23:7,8; "Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that they shall no more say, The Lord, liveth, which brought up the children of Israel(physical Jews but now spiritual Jews) out of the land of Egypt; (8) But, the Lord liveth, which led (pulls then out) the seed (Revelation 12:17) of the house of Israel out of the north country,(Jereimiah was captive in Babylon..the religious system...ie.church today) and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land. There are two time lines here. Jeremiah's and ours.

Revelation 12:17; "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. The woman here is pulling them out of the religious system who still think they must keep the physical commandments. They are still in the religious system that lift up the physical law. They never recognized Christ did away with the old covenant. All the law was fullfilled in him. The bible in revelation calls them a great multitude.

Joel 3:14; "Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision. This is the third overturning (Isaiah 21:27)

VRJ · Mar 31, 2011

I hit the reply button: will continue here.

Why are they in the valley of decision: because they are not understanding the scriptures correctly.

Jeremiah 50:6; "My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotton their restingplace. Where are they now? They are in the valley.

But we are told:

Joel 3:18; "And it shall come to pass in that day (tribulation day), that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and the rivers of Judah shall flow with the waters, and a fountain shall come forth of the house of the Lord, and shall water the valley of ****-tim.

****-tim is the house of prisoners where the multitude are kept. God is going to pull them out of this prison and give them new wine. New wine of understanding of who they are in Christ.

So now we see a new medaphore language introduced here...new wine.

Joel 3:17; "So shall ye know that I am the Lord your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy: and there shall no strangers pass through her any more."

So now we see Zion is God's holy mountain.

Joel 2:1,2; "Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble(tribulation): for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand; (2) A day of darkness and of gloomness, a day of clouds and of think darkness, as the morning spread (means dawn) upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations."

Never happened before in this manner.

spread (means dawn)

Matthew 24:27; "So as the lighting (means dawn) cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Jesus was using the mount of olives in this: you get oil from olives. They have to be pressed to get oil. This is the threashing floor the bible talks about..the seperating.

Zechariah 4:11-14; "
Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? (12) And I answered again, and said unto him. What be these two olive branches (branches...term for made white..multitude wear white) which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? (13) And he answered me and said, Knoweth thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. (14) Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth. The Multitude are the ones in Revelation 11. The two witness: God's Word and the Holy Spirit.

Revelation 11:4 "These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the whole earth."

This is the oil that has been pressed.

I Corinthians 3:16; " Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dewlleth in you.

If you want to see a physical temple to be rebuilt in physical Israel then you have just given away your heritage and that is an abomination. For you are the temple of God if you have Christ. The veil split when Christ died and it split from top to bottom. It says that God did this not man. Man wants to hang on to old wine.

In Galatians chapter 3:16,17,18 as I quoted above, the apostle Paul was stating what we may call a "contract law". Paul explains the precedence of
THE covenant and to whom it is ultimatle conferred: Christ is the seed. He is the inheritor of Abraham's promise...not physical Israel. Christ, by Divine Right, alone had the power to CONFIRM this covenant.

Paul's dissertations here in Galatians, and in the epistle to the Hebtews buttresses the writing in Romans chapters 9-11 by here breaking down the "partition" which existed then and apparently exists to this day in the body of believers who want to create a "bicameral" covenant. Yet from the perspective of Paul's writing no such "dual covenant" can exist:

Galatians 4:28,29. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise."

It is clear from Paul's writings that this "Abrahamic Covenant", based as it was historically upon the law, was not super ceded but transferred via the mystical body of Christ, the believers, or whom we term now as "Spiritual Israel." This transference occurs through Christ who is the rightful heir (seed) and who has the authority to confirm the transference.

In Galatians 4:22-30
Paul states something which most either ignore or find repulsive. while Paul referenced TWO covenants here, we must be clear that only ONE is valid as Jesus stated in Matthew 5:18.
Paul here in Matthew 5:18 showed the means by which the law of grace supersedes the riged ordinances of the Mosaic era...in Romans 8:34; "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: (4) That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us. who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

The transference of the covenant and the law were a single act performed by Christ at the cross. The contract, if you will, was fulfilled and with it He confirmed the spiritual "New Deal" that brought both physical Israel and all the heathen (Gentiles) nations under the same standard of redemptioon.

John 10: 15, 16 says there is one fold...one shepherd.

Scotth1960 · Apr 1, 2011

Dutch41 said:

Yes, Jerusalem is or was a city of God. But it was judged by

God in 70 AD for having crucified our LORD.

Thus, Jerusalem fell from pre-eminence in the earth. There is no room for Zionism in Christianity.

But for the LORD's sake, as God is love and He loves Israel, it
remains a blessed city. Any city that

has Christians in it is blessed.

The Psalm says, "Great is our God, and greatly to be praised, in

the city of our God, in the mountain

of His holiness Beautiful for situation (in elevation), the joy of

the whole earth, is Mount Zion in the

sides of the north, the city of the Great King." I think that's

Psalm 145 or something like that. I don't remember. In Erie

PA Scott R. Harrington

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