Why Jesus is NOT coming soon

[Hevosmies]

Has anyone noticed that in Matthew 24 and the parallel passages being "left behind" is actually a good thing? And being "taken" is a bad thing.
Lets stop using that verse to support the pre-trib rapture now.

Luk 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

Do a cross-reference on if its a good thing to be taken where the eagles are gathered together... NOPE.

Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
Rev 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

^ Haven't some of us been saying that, throughout this thread (or another similar thread)? The context of the Olivet Discourse is not our Rapture (revealed and explained elsewhere, not in the Olivet Discourse), but the time surrounding His Second Coming to the earth FOR the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom

...so, in the "one taken / one left" passages, the one "taken" is taken away in judgment [just as in Noah's day], and the one "left" is left to enter the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom (in their mortal bodies, capable of reproducing / bearing children) [just as in Noah's day--compare also Gen9:1 with Dan2:35--"fill/filled the [whole] earth"].

 

[Absolutely]

Just ignore the impossibilities that those taken are wicked,and pooof! They magically become half earths population as wicked....which means the righteous make up half earths population and it is common for believers to be in bed with satan worshippers. Plus the setting in non apacolyptic, and there is no gathering of wicked at the lords coming. Plus you have the righteous watching and waiting,not for his coming for the wise virgins or even the foolish,but for satan worshippers.

Just ignore all that. Do not test fit it,just look at the vultures and go with it.....even if it means transposing all the impossibilities.

That dog will NOT hunt.

That misconception leads to the tares/ wheat misconception.
Which places the lof at the second coming. Yet another impossibility. They will say " just loooky,the tares are gathered first" !!! ( pssst if you will keep reading we find another example of gathering is fish/culls. Notice the good are removed first:
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Oh well,go figure. Carry on

 

[Absolutely]

".......at the end of the world"
Lof at the end of the world. Not the second coming.

 

[Absolutely]

One taken is the rapture. 5 wise virgins
All it can be.
When Jesus answered " where" he was saying "as it is with 'this' ,so it is with 'that' "
Iow he didn't answer them.
Its like saying when Jesus said " when you see the fig tree budding you know ...."
Not a literal fig tree.
Nor is he referring to corpses or buzzards.
If you must embrace wicked taken,there are only 2 places i know of.
1) Rev 14
2) End of the world ...lof

The wicked gather at Armageddon,but are not supernaturally raptured to armageddon.
Remember,we are supposed to believe ALL WICKED are " taken" or raptured,with the supposed righteous left behind
Nope

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

The phrase says "the end [singular] of the age [singular]" and the disciples were CORRECT in their expectation that "the age [singular] to come" came after that! [the MK]… they just did not understand the TIMING of that [per their Q in Acts 1:6].

They would not have thought to ask Him a question regarding "the end of THE WORLD"


Plus, in Daniel 12 (second HALF of trib, AFTER which DANIEL will be "resurrected" [to stand again on the earth, i.e earthly MK]) it says there will be "the WISE WILL understand" but "the wicked shall NOT understand" (SAME TIME FRAME as we are discussing here!), v.10 [see also vv.1-4 and what the "WISE" among them will DO; who are Israel having come up out of "the graveyard of nations" WITHIN the trib, not a physical/bodily resurrection, JUST AS IN Ezek37:12-14,20-23, Rom11:15, Hos5:15-6:3, etc)

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

The wicked gather at Armageddon,but are not supernaturally raptured to armageddon.
Remember,we are supposed to believe ALL WICKED are " taken" or raptured,with the supposed righteous left behind
Nope

"the wicked" were not RAPTURED at the flood judgment, either, but "THEY" WERE "taken away" in judgment.

At the timing of Armageddon, "the wicked" are taken in judgment (i.e. death and not entering the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom ["age [singular] to come"]; i.e. "weeping and gnashing of teeth"--see all these references)



[Rev19:19 / 16:14-16 / Isa24:21-22[23] ]

Get "RAPTURED" out of your mind, as that is NOT the CONTEXT here So, no.