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Grace7x77 Now to the superficial reader this reads sensibly, except it is a lie.
The words "nonsense" which is derogatory and secondly "majority" which I never said. You are actually the minority, but represent a form of faith that I would call "unchristian" and "heretical".
Why you think you have a platform other than than "good" feeling you put about by not bringing up any difficult issues. It takes a great talent to complement and link inane ideas and not deal with real life issues that matter.
But I do recognise this skill, developed as a minister over many years but not put to good purpose. It is obvious to me that so many will never change, and they are close but appear to be hard in their hearts, so though the words appear to be inspired by God, they are probably not sheep at all, but another christian splinter group.
EG...we just need to let them continue to slander others in the body of Christ and stay away from them. Malice affects people when left to it's free reign. It'll get to us too if we continue to interact with this kind of behavior.
EG - Learn. Your language is just twisted and unclear. Even in this response all you are saying is I got things wrong, but not actually declaring what or how. If you entered an exam of questions and answer you would get zero.
You have no interest in ideas or actually discussing your beliefs, which indicates fear. You are only here is to provoke and tear down. If you can answer the points I make, then answer them, or be honest and admit you have no answer.
You chicken? It is strange for me to challenge a christian like this, but I am not sure what you are, because you deny so much you must not actually really believe anything other than the opposite of me, because you want so badly to say I am stupid and do not understand anything. It strikes me as I said before it is you who are deficient in this area.
If you cannot even declare properly what you believe, how can I have any respect for your position, if you really have one?
You have no interest in ideas or actually discussing your beliefs, which indicates fear. You are only here is to provoke and tear down. If you can answer the points I make, then answer them, or be honest and admit you have no answer.
You chicken? It is strange for me to challenge a christian like this, but I am not sure what you are, because you deny so much you must not actually really believe anything other than the opposite of me, because you want so badly to say I am stupid and do not understand anything. It strikes me as I said before it is you who are deficient in this area.
If you cannot even declare properly what you believe, how can I have any respect for your position, if you really have one?
We can see the complete "foulness" that these types of threads create. I breeds itself and then manifests in slander and malice to all of us.
Everything reproduces after it's own kind. This is the very reason I wanted to avoid this type of thread. Some just love this. They love to rip others in the body of Christ apart. It's sickening and devilish and not from our Father and Lord.
Everything reproduces after it's own kind. This is the very reason I wanted to avoid this type of thread. Some just love this. They love to rip others in the body of Christ apart. It's sickening and devilish and not from our Father and Lord.
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Laughter - I am sorry reader. Grace7x77 and EG want to act offended, and picture themselves as innocent victims
I laugh not out of arrogance because this is not where Christ is in standing for what love, righteousness, truth and purity are.
They are masters at emotional manipulation, but this is a training session for those who need to confront such people in our churches world-wide.
The questions are fundamental for faith and our walk with Christ. Walking in the light is about bringing how we behave into open debate, discussion, and learning to walk in the love Jesus has planted in us and shown us through the cross.
They literally represent the enemy of this position, believing this is hypocracy, evil, a burdening of the world with "religion" and self salvation.
The fruit of their position is the destruction of the church. The church is called to be salt and light in a lost world, and learning that righteousness unto death is what we are called to be. It is no small matter, it is why Jesus died and was risen again.
So they are the enemy of the gospel, so they do not deserve the respect they claim, and their actions and behaviour declare their true spiritual position, which is to condemn and call faithful followers of Christ as evil.
I laugh not out of arrogance because this is not where Christ is in standing for what love, righteousness, truth and purity are.
They are masters at emotional manipulation, but this is a training session for those who need to confront such people in our churches world-wide.
The questions are fundamental for faith and our walk with Christ. Walking in the light is about bringing how we behave into open debate, discussion, and learning to walk in the love Jesus has planted in us and shown us through the cross.
They literally represent the enemy of this position, believing this is hypocracy, evil, a burdening of the world with "religion" and self salvation.
The fruit of their position is the destruction of the church. The church is called to be salt and light in a lost world, and learning that righteousness unto death is what we are called to be. It is no small matter, it is why Jesus died and was risen again.
So they are the enemy of the gospel, so they do not deserve the respect they claim, and their actions and behaviour declare their true spiritual position, which is to condemn and call faithful followers of Christ as evil.
Grace7x77 shows his true self. Out of his heart he has called those who would dare to question his theology, sickening and devilish.
These words will haunt him on the day of judgement. But he does not care one little bit. But that is the nature of these people. Blasphemy does not matter, or sin or heresy or holding to anything Jesus says as that is addressed only to Israel, and we "the body" have new revelation that will lead the church to dominate the world.
This is a different faith, with our language but a different belief system. It is shown by their desire to reinterpret biblical language, and then say evil religionists took over everything and they are now putting things straight.
And to them I am the enemy. They also hate this reality check, because they will soon have to form their own faith openly, which they are so scared about, rather their desire is to take over the current structures and eject any real believers out of the church all together.
But what they do not understand, we the body of Christ do not dwell in organisations but in Christ and His Spirit.
What the Lord wills and prophesied will happen, so Amen, and God bless you all, even those who claim to know so much but fail so badly.
These words will haunt him on the day of judgement. But he does not care one little bit. But that is the nature of these people. Blasphemy does not matter, or sin or heresy or holding to anything Jesus says as that is addressed only to Israel, and we "the body" have new revelation that will lead the church to dominate the world.
This is a different faith, with our language but a different belief system. It is shown by their desire to reinterpret biblical language, and then say evil religionists took over everything and they are now putting things straight.
And to them I am the enemy. They also hate this reality check, because they will soon have to form their own faith openly, which they are so scared about, rather their desire is to take over the current structures and eject any real believers out of the church all together.
But what they do not understand, we the body of Christ do not dwell in organisations but in Christ and His Spirit.
What the Lord wills and prophesied will happen, so Amen, and God bless you all, even those who claim to know so much but fail so badly.
EG - you are such a joker. I cannot take you seriously, you must really be a troll.
I remember muslims who took your line. "Until you accept me as a teacher, you will never learn." rather than "Here are the issues, walk in them and learn of me" which is Jesus's way.
And yes I make mistakes, I do not deny this, but your approach is just declare nothing or very little and simply attack.
I know you could say 100% what I believe, because I just declare it. You cannot, which is the end to the discussion.
I remember muslims who took your line. "Until you accept me as a teacher, you will never learn." rather than "Here are the issues, walk in them and learn of me" which is Jesus's way.
And yes I make mistakes, I do not deny this, but your approach is just declare nothing or very little and simply attack.
I know you could say 100% what I believe, because I just declare it. You cannot, which is the end to the discussion.
You guys, you are so experienced in sharing belief. No. I wonder if someone came to you and said I want to believe in Jesus what do I need to do? What would you say? Imagine a non-believer reading this now asking this question.
I think when I was talking to muslims they did better. They still lost, because Mo believed religion had be corrupted but never said how in specifics, so left it to the believers to work out, but unfortunately it is all junk. Sounds like you are actually in the same boat, inspired by the same spiritual force.
I think when I was talking to muslims they did better. They still lost, because Mo believed religion had be corrupted but never said how in specifics, so left it to the believers to work out, but unfortunately it is all junk. Sounds like you are actually in the same boat, inspired by the same spiritual force.
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Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. II Timothy 2:19
I cannot even begin to express the grief that one should experience when reading this thread
I have noticed a progression towards evil...that is not an accident
I would take note of such a statement if it did not come from the most aggressive take on and attacker of people on the site and one who consistently opposed "love" being at the core of the gospel and its engine of power.
What is plain, is people think emotional support of a judgement is more important than actually dealing with the doctrines and beliefs at hand. It is no coincidence that all the supporters come from fellowships that believe being negative is evil, which satan 100% loves, because how on earth can you address sin or problems because that is being negative and condemning.
But then only the Lords sheep in the last days will understand this deep wisdom. Will any stand when so many compromise every issue and every idea of what righteousness is?
What is plain, is people think emotional support of a judgement is more important than actually dealing with the doctrines and beliefs at hand. It is no coincidence that all the supporters come from fellowships that believe being negative is evil, which satan 100% loves, because how on earth can you address sin or problems because that is being negative and condemning.
But then only the Lords sheep in the last days will understand this deep wisdom. Will any stand when so many compromise every issue and every idea of what righteousness is?
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You are speaking to a spirit...don't you realize that?
it is being fed and getting stronger...which is why I say over and over...don't respond!
Bless God this day and have done with this wickedness and let the dead bury the dead
I pray God physically restrains me from even posting such a thing as this, if I don't have the God given discernment and brains to stay away
I am concerned for any Christian brothers and sisters who continue to answer the devil back
it is being fed and getting stronger...which is why I say over and over...don't respond!
Bless God this day and have done with this wickedness and let the dead bury the dead
I pray God physically restrains me from even posting such a thing as this, if I don't have the God given discernment and brains to stay away
I am concerned for any Christian brothers and sisters who continue to answer the devil back
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.
Matt 5:6
Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come."
So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. He asked, ‘How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?’ The man was speechless.
“Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
For many are invited, but few are chosen.
Matt 22:1-14
Matt 5:6
Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come."
So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. He asked, ‘How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?’ The man was speechless.
“Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
For many are invited, but few are chosen.
Matt 22:1-14
Those who do not deal with their sin, and think walking in grace is just accepting forgiveness through the cross are like the man not in wedding clothes at the wedding banquet.
Your King has declared his desire and intentions. You are not innocent or unaware of His ways. So take heed because He is your Lord and King.
Your King has declared his desire and intentions. You are not innocent or unaware of His ways. So take heed because He is your Lord and King.
I fully agree ember...the Lord is deeply grieved over this type of evil happening amongst us. This type of stuff is sinning against Christ and it is doing in essence the very same thing Saul aka Paul was doing when Jesus said "Why are you persecuting Me".
When we attack each other in the body of Christ we are sinning against Christ Himself.
Galatians 5:15-16 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
We really need to back out of these types of foul threads when they occur or it will affect us all.
No one will see the Lord in us when things like this are happening. ( it is so disheartening that Gandhi even had to say what he said about us Christians but it does reveal what the world sees when this stuff is being done by some in the body of Christ )
A root of bitterness happens when we let go of the grace of God and thus people cannot see the Lord in us as He should be shown. We need to set ourselves apart - the sanctification as Hebrews 12:14-15 says so that people can see the true Lord Jesus.
Hebrews 12:14-15 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
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How is it that you are so defeated? Have you not realised you do not know where you are or what you are fighting for?
You quoted Joyce as regards love, and she had to tell herself God loved her for a whole year before she believed it.
Only a non-christian would talk like this, because their heart is a heart of stone. Jesus died for us because he loved us, as we are, where we are. But then I am not talking to someone who knows these realities, so why would you understand, but I say this to those sheep who are reading this and understand the spiritual divide these people are creating.
It is close to blasphemy itself, and it is this fear that restrains them, but not for long. It is why they are so confused and lost, and probably there is no hope for them, which I summised on joining cc and being called their enemy for talking about love and truth and forgiveness. Obviously this is not where their hearts dwell.
You quoted Joyce as regards love, and she had to tell herself God loved her for a whole year before she believed it.
Only a non-christian would talk like this, because their heart is a heart of stone. Jesus died for us because he loved us, as we are, where we are. But then I am not talking to someone who knows these realities, so why would you understand, but I say this to those sheep who are reading this and understand the spiritual divide these people are creating.
It is close to blasphemy itself, and it is this fear that restrains them, but not for long. It is why they are so confused and lost, and probably there is no hope for them, which I summised on joining cc and being called their enemy for talking about love and truth and forgiveness. Obviously this is not where their hearts dwell.
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