Why the Gap Theory is unacceptable
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Its been termed cosmic light by men. To me, john seems to say it is the light through which everything has been created, which is Jesus/the Word/the Lamb/ the Light. 
John 1
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
We need to examine this passage in reverse to understand what John is saying.
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world... In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Jesus – the Word of God – is the true Light of the universe. This has a double meaning. Christ is Divine Light, just as “God IS Light”. In other words, the glory of God is His ineffable Light. He Himself is Light and dwells in perfect Light. So “physically” He is Light, as seen in the Transfiguration. But He is also spiritual Light, which speaks of righteousness, holiness, and truth. So God’s righteousness lights every human soul which comes into the world. How is this possible in sinners? The answer is found in the existence of the conscience, which is given to every human being as a reflection of “the Law” (the Ten Commandments). See Romans chapter 2.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
The minute that Lucifer – the anointed cherub of God – sinned, spiritual darkness entered into the world. Ever since the Devil and his angels have been at enmity with God and the souls of men, creating and sustaining spiritual darkness in this world. “The whole world lieth in wickedness”. Behind all the sins, evils, and crimes in the world is the hand of Satan and his evil spirits. Nonetheless, these evil forces cannot overcome (“comprehend” = katalambano = seize, arrest, and capture) the light of God which consists of (a) God, Christ Himself, and the Holy Spirit (b) the written Word of God, (c) the power of the conscience even in those who are not saved.
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The Genesis account is scientific fact because it is the testimony of God the only one who knew precisely what he was doing and told us what we need to know to destroy the ridiculous and satanically inspired lies of modern false sciences.
But every man is free to be deluded till judgment day. God’s written word is a closed book to all who are in unbelief.
But every man is free to be deluded till judgment day. God’s written word is a closed book to all who are in unbelief.
Who in their right mind refuses to believe the testimony of everyone else, but believes only their own, and only after they themselves don the experiment repeatedly?
Someone that dumb is stuck in a room somewhere doomed to ignorance of the world at large.
Especially when all one needs to do is believe God’s written word, and who proves all things by leading men by the expediant means of the Holy Ghost in the heart of all who do believe God and Jesus Christ.
Someone that dumb is stuck in a room somewhere doomed to ignorance of the world at large.
Especially when all one needs to do is believe God’s written word, and who proves all things by leading men by the expediant means of the Holy Ghost in the heart of all who do believe God and Jesus Christ.
Someone asked for info from my Oxford study bible on another thread. It fits here moreso than on another thread. Wish I could copy and paste, but alas...
The beginning for this earth may have been countless ages ago. This is in no way contradictory to the Bible. We know that when God first created the earth, it was perfect. Isaiah 45:18. It is thought that the angel Lucifer lived on the earth for a time. Perhaps as its king (he has been identified with the king of Tyre, Ezk 28:13-15, but Lucifer became the one know as Satan or the devil, for he became proud and wanted to be as great as God, Isaiah 14:14. For this sin God had to punish him Ezk 28:16. Although his power and majesty was not taken from him, his beauty was corrupted, his wisdom changed to cunning, his intimate relationship with God was over, and this earth was destroyed. Jer4;23. It is thought that the earth was tilted out of its place; the oceans overflowed. Every living thing died instantly from the terrible cold that seized the earth. The fossils (animals or plants, or traces of animals or plants buried or preserved in solid rocks or caves) are all that is left of its former creation.
There are two periods of time, each of which may have been thousands of years long. One of these took place between the time
when the earth was first created perfect Gen 1:1, and when it was laid waste Gen1:2, first sentence. The other period of time took place between the moment when the earth was laid waste and the re-creation. The story of the re-creation begins with the second sentence of Gen 1:2.
Footnote:
was without form form and void. Became gives the better meaning than was in this case. Compare Gen 19:26 where it is stated that Lots wife became a pillar of salt. She was not a pillar of salt in the first place, and neither was the earth without form and void in the first place.
The beginning for this earth may have been countless ages ago. This is in no way contradictory to the Bible. We know that when God first created the earth, it was perfect. Isaiah 45:18. It is thought that the angel Lucifer lived on the earth for a time. Perhaps as its king (he has been identified with the king of Tyre, Ezk 28:13-15, but Lucifer became the one know as Satan or the devil, for he became proud and wanted to be as great as God, Isaiah 14:14. For this sin God had to punish him Ezk 28:16. Although his power and majesty was not taken from him, his beauty was corrupted, his wisdom changed to cunning, his intimate relationship with God was over, and this earth was destroyed. Jer4;23. It is thought that the earth was tilted out of its place; the oceans overflowed. Every living thing died instantly from the terrible cold that seized the earth. The fossils (animals or plants, or traces of animals or plants buried or preserved in solid rocks or caves) are all that is left of its former creation.
There are two periods of time, each of which may have been thousands of years long. One of these took place between the time
when the earth was first created perfect Gen 1:1, and when it was laid waste Gen1:2, first sentence. The other period of time took place between the moment when the earth was laid waste and the re-creation. The story of the re-creation begins with the second sentence of Gen 1:2.
Footnote:
was without form form and void. Became gives the better meaning than was in this case. Compare Gen 19:26 where it is stated that Lots wife became a pillar of salt. She was not a pillar of salt in the first place, and neither was the earth without form and void in the first place.
No...scripture doesn't plainly state otherwise. Neither does it state my thought on it either. It is pretty much silent because OUR story begins, in my opinion, after the rebellion of Satan. We have a few verses that hint at something major, a shakeup happening, but no, scripture does not plainly state otherwise than my thought nor does it give us much from before OUR story began.
Maybe its the question that is the problem. What if beginning with void and without form is perfect for the start?
Do we assume that God is not perfect because on the 3rd day there were still things not made and thus the world was not functioning perfectly?
What I am attempting to do is question the logic behind your question, that because something is not complete means it is not done by a perfect act.
The seed is perfect though it is not yet a plant, Yet it is not till it is fully grown that we may enjoy the fruit it yields.
The formless lump of clay void of paint and shape is perfect for the purposes of forming shape.
Could the earth formless and void be Gods lump of clay which he made, Ready to be formed into exactly the perfect plan?
If so then formless and void is the perfect start for a perfect God to bring to a perfect conclusion.
I believe by deductive reasoning that the heavens and earth though formless and void were made on day 1 with the light and the water. Why?
Because it says here that the heavens and the earth were made in 6 days, thus I include the formless earth in that time period:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is...
Everything that is concerning this earth was made in 6 days. Thus the formless void earth which was perfect as a canvass for God to paint and make something beautiful of.
By the way God made everything that is, So that includes the formless and void earth, Yet he is perfect.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Do we assume that God is not perfect because on the 3rd day there were still things not made and thus the world was not functioning perfectly?
What I am attempting to do is question the logic behind your question, that because something is not complete means it is not done by a perfect act.
The seed is perfect though it is not yet a plant, Yet it is not till it is fully grown that we may enjoy the fruit it yields.
The formless lump of clay void of paint and shape is perfect for the purposes of forming shape.
Could the earth formless and void be Gods lump of clay which he made, Ready to be formed into exactly the perfect plan?
If so then formless and void is the perfect start for a perfect God to bring to a perfect conclusion.
I believe by deductive reasoning that the heavens and earth though formless and void were made on day 1 with the light and the water. Why?
Because it says here that the heavens and the earth were made in 6 days, thus I include the formless earth in that time period:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is...
Everything that is concerning this earth was made in 6 days. Thus the formless void earth which was perfect as a canvass for God to paint and make something beautiful of.
By the way God made everything that is, So that includes the formless and void earth, Yet he is perfect.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Well that's awful picky...
How would moses know about creation events unless God told Him how it went down? He certainly wasn't present at the creation!
How would moses know about creation events unless God told Him how it went down? He certainly wasn't present at the creation!
And when you compare 3 gospels, you will see that inspired authors had sometimes problems with details.
Why do you expect the author of Genesis to write down everything perfectly, even in such problematic topic? Gen 1 and Gen 2 have different creation orders, for example.
BTW why do you think it was Moses? Did Jesus quote Genesis and said "Moses said"? I am not sure now.
The vahv consecutive is used in Hebrew to denote circumstantiality. It in effect allows the vahv (usually translated as 'and' to be read as 'some time later' [with the elapsed time being indefinite]. I am not trying to present this as a doctrinal position. The Hebrew allows but does not demand a gap in time between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2; and/or between Gen 1:2 and Gen 1:3.
In my initial post on this thread, I attempted to show how the Hebrew allows and even suggests such a reading.
Whether or not one accepts the 'Gap Theory', Jesus still created the world as we know it in 6 literal 24 hour days.
In my initial post on this thread, I attempted to show how the Hebrew allows and even suggests such a reading.
Whether or not one accepts the 'Gap Theory', Jesus still created the world as we know it in 6 literal 24 hour days.
There are 5703 recognized families. The Hebrew nechem (kind) can properly be interpreted as broadly as family. This means that all the genra and species within a family could have come from common parents. This would still require Adam to name a kind of animal every 14 seconds; but it is potentially doable. If the aquatic creatures were excluded it would be far easier.
The wording of the Scripture does NOT necessarily include non-terrestrial life forms.
The wording of the Scripture does NOT necessarily include non-terrestrial life forms.
