Why the "NT-only, grace-only" theology is off the mark

[WomanLovesTX]

Because God doesn't break a promise.

Originally Posted by danschance

John, I have posted these scriptures on other threads. Yet if you insist I will be happy to post them again.
Christ came to fulfill the law not do away with it.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Matt. 5:17

We keep the moral laws of Christ
1) Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. Gal. 6:2
2)To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but under the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law. 1 Cor 9:21

we do not have to keep it anymore: the one who places himself under the Law as a Covenant with Him has Christ to no prevail. How is it possible to be under covenant with God under two covenants? If you are under covenant with God under the Law, then let us accept what it says: Christ is no prevail to that one. That means: ?

But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. Romans 7:6

Ah-hah! We are under more than one covenant.

 

[danschance]

Ah-hah! We are under more than one covenant.

While I will admit your logic is quite dizzying, I have to disagree. I just wrote this post to you on another thread and I will repost it here as it certainly fits.



1) Christ is the END of the Mosaic laws for those who believe in Him.
"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes."Romans 10:4
Context proves this is specifically referring to the Mosaic laws. It clearly states that the Mosaic laws are not on the believer.

2) The next verse augments the verse above. The Mosaic law has no hold on those who believe in Christ.
"23Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. 24So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. 25But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian,26for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith."Gal. 3:23-25
Note how this verse states we were held captive or imprisoned to the Mosaic law. Christ set us free from it. Yet you seek to prove the contrary! You are going against the very will of Christ!

3)This next verse states the same thing, the abolishment of the Mosaic law for the NT believer.
"by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace," Eph. 2:15

4) The next verse basically states the same thing, that we are released from the law.
"But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code." Romans 7:6

Conclusion
I have listed four verses that clearly state in no uncertain terms That we are:
1) The Mosaic law is brought to an end.
2) The Mosaic law No longer keeps us captive as Christ thru faith has set us free.
3) The Mosaic law is abolished.
4) We are released from the Mosaic law.

This proves your statements above are false. I will not accuse you of blatant deception as I believe you have been deceived into thinking that the Mosaic laws are current and we are under them by the enemy. Satan uses this to bring believers to hell as the bible says:"You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace." Gal 5:4

 

[cfultz3]

Ah-hah! We are under more than one covenant.

How is it possible to be led by the flesh and by the spirit at the same time? If one Covenant says that this is the way to be righteous before God and says: obedience is done through the flesh, if one Covenant says that righteous is obtained through faith in the Son and says: obedience is done through the spirit, then by a particular insistence it is being said we do not have to hearken unto the Son when He said that we are to die to the flesh and its effort to obtain righteousness. I am sure that no one is teaching that we do not hearken unto the Son and how He says it is now obtained. I am sure no one will go as far as to say that Christ has it wrong and that we are to remain alive to our flesh and not die with Him.

 

[chubbena]

How is it possible to be led by the flesh and by the spirit at the same time? If one Covenant says that this is the way to be righteous before God and says: obedience is done through the flesh, if one Covenant says that righteous is obtained through faith in the Son and says: obedience is done through the spirit, then by a particular insistence it is being said we do not have to hearken unto the Son when He said that we are to die to the flesh and its effort to obtain righteousness. I am sure that no one is teaching that we do not hearken unto the Son and how He says it is now obtained. I am sure no one will go as far as to say that Christ has it wrong and that we are to remain alive to our flesh and not die with Him.

Consider Deut 6:4-9, Yahweh spoke through Moses that the Israelites were to put the commandments on the heart.
I don't think the old covenant was ever meant to be kept by the flesh. The minority got it, the majority didn't. Those who got it are saved and some are recorded in Hebrews 11-12. They are considered faithful and they are witnesses.

 

[Rollingtide]

The fact you use the Name (title); " Yahweh" let's me know you really have no discernment of God or his name. Have you ever read this verse in the New Testament: " In Everything you say and do, do all in the name of JESUS"

°When Paul was on his way to Damascus and was struck blind. He looked up, and ask this question: "Who art thou Lord"? " I am Jesus" was the answer
(Acts Chapter 9) no mention of " Yahweh" whatsoever.

 

[chubbena]

The fact you use the Name (title); " Yahweh" let's me know you really have no discernment of God or his name. Have you ever read this verse in the New Testament: " In Everything you say and do, do all in the name of JESUS"

°When Paul was on his way to Damascus and was struck blind. He looked up, and ask this question: "Who art thou Lord"? " I am Jesus" was the answer
(Acts Chapter 9) no mention of " Yahweh" whatsoever.

Only in the English speaking world. Fortunately salvation is not limited to English speaking people.
You might want to google meaning of His name. In short Jesus is originated in the Latin form of the Greek name Iesous, a rendition of the Hebrew name Yeshua or Joshua which means Yahweh is salvation.

 

[phil112]

Consider Deut 6:4-9, Yahweh spoke through Moses that the Israelites were to put the commandments on the heart........................

Doesn't say that at all. God will put them on their hearts.

Reading comprehension is critical to proper understanding, especially in the bible, and it is a skill too many in here lack.

 

[cfultz3]

Consider Deut 6:4-9, Yahweh spoke through Moses that the Israelites were to put the commandments on the heart.
I don't think the old covenant was ever meant to be kept by the flesh. The minority got it, the majority didn't. Those who got it are saved and some are recorded in Hebrews 11-12. They are considered faithful and they are witnesses.

The Law was to be kept by physical effort and is the reason why Christ in His Covenant tells us that we are to die to the flesh as a means of obtaining righteousness (right standing before God). All of Scripture speaks about deeds, deeds are done either physically or spiritually. If the Law was never meant to be kept by the flesh, then it would have been unnecessary for Christ to have taught that need to have died with Him so that we can be spiritually reborn.

Those of the Old Covenant who did get "it", did understand that the whole Law must be kept and those who did and did faithfully sacrifice for their sins according to Law, did receive a Messiah when Christ went and delivered the righteous dead from Hades. Yes, they were faithful to the Law and received their Messiah.....

 

[WomanLovesTX]

The Law was to be kept by physical effort and is the reason why Christ in His Covenant tells us that we are to die to the flesh as a means of obtaining righteousness (right standing before God). All of Scripture speaks about deeds, deeds are done either physically or spiritually. If the Law was never meant to be kept by the flesh, then it would have been unnecessary for Christ to have taught that need to have died with Him so that we can be spiritually reborn.

Those of the Old Covenant who did get "it", did understand that the whole Law must be kept and those who did and did faithfully sacrifice for their sins according to Law, did receive a Messiah when Christ went and delivered the righteous dead from Hades. Yes, they were faithful to the Law and received their Messiah.....

Which law is kept with the flesh? The LAW OF SIN. Paul refers to several laws, and one must read in context to know and understand which law Paul.

Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Here's an easy to understand chart to understand which law Paul was referring to:

Paul makes mention of many“laws.” In fact, he makes mention of at least seven.


1)The Law of God (Romans 3:31; 7:22-25; 8:7)

2) The Law of Sin (Romans 7:23-25)

3) The Law of Sin and Death (Romans 8:2)

4) The Law of the Spirit of Life (Romans 8:2)

5)The Law of Faith (Romans 3:27)

6)The Law of Righteousness (Romans 9:31)

7) The Law of Christ (1 Corinthians 9:21)

 

[Hizikyah]

The Law was to be kept by physical effort and is the reason why Christ in His Covenant tells us that we are to die to the flesh as a means of obtaining righteousness (right standing before God). All of Scripture speaks about deeds, deeds are done either physically or spiritually. If the Law was never meant to be kept by the flesh, then it would have been unnecessary for Christ to have taught that need to have died with Him so that we can be spiritually reborn.

Those of the Old Covenant who did get "it", did understand that the whole Law must be kept and those who did and did faithfully sacrifice for their sins according to Law, did receive a Messiah when Christ went and delivered the righteous dead from Hades. Yes, they were faithful to the Law and received their Messiah.....

Could we consider "Paul" and "John" fallen from grace Pharisees for writing this?:

1 Corinthians 9:24-27, "Do you not know that those who run in a race all compete, but only one receives the prize? So run your race that you may lay hold of the prize, and make it yours. And everyone who competes conducts himself temperately in all things. Now they compete to obtain a perishable crown; but we for an imperishable crown. Therefore, I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man who beats the air. No, I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified."

1 Yahchanan 3:7, "Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous."

 

[cfultz3]

Could we consider "Paul" and "John" fallen from grace Pharisees for writing this?:

1 Corinthians 9:24-27, "Do you not know that those who run in a race all compete, but only one receives the prize? So run your race that you may lay hold of the prize, and make it yours. And everyone who competes conducts himself temperately in all things. Now they compete to obtain a perishable crown; but we for an imperishable crown. Therefore, I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man who beats the air. No, I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified."

1 Yahchanan 3:7, "Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous."

If you wish to talk, all I ask is that you use English names of the Books, seeing that my native language is English.

Do those who follow Christ follow righteousness?

Does Jesus teach contrary to God's will?

I will assume that your answer is yes to the first question and no to the second one.

I will assume that you believe that I am teaching lawlessness because of the verses you quoted.

I have asked this question so many times and do not believe it has once been answered.

So, here it is again and hoping it will be answered: Does Christ teach contrary to God's will?

 

[BradC]

In the OT, we see GRACE before LAW. In the NT, we see GRACE before LAW. GRACE IS THE ROOT OF OUR SALVATION TO COME, AND LAW IS THE FRUIT OF OUR SALVATION WE ARE WORKING OUT NOW.

So, while His death, burial, and resurrection are an important part of the Good News, it's not the whole story! God isn't just in the business of "saving" people. As Creator and law giver, He is in the business of teaching us how to be good subjects in His Kingdom to come! If "Jesus abolished Torah at the cross" then why was EVERY believer completely Torah observant for one hundred years afterYeshua's death, including the Apostle Paul who was "caught" being Torah observant 29 years afterYeshua's death (Acts 21:23-24)! Was Paul a hypocrite, saying one thing and doing another; or were his teachings, perhaps, misunderstood?

YHWH said HE would send a prophet who was to do everything He ordered him to do:

Deuteronomy 18: 15 "ADONAI will raise up for you a prophet like me from among yourselves, from your own kinsmen. You are to pay attention to him, 16 just as when you were assembled at Horev and requested ADONAI your God, 'Don't let me hear the voice of ADONAI my God any more, or let me see this great fire ever again; if I do, I will die!' 17 On that occasion ADONAI said to me, 'They are right in what they are saying. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their kinsmen. I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I order him.

Yeshua Himself said He came to do HIS FATHER's will; not His own!

John 6: 35. Y'shua said to them, I am the Bread of Life. Whoever comes to me will not hunger. And whoever believes in me will not ever thirst. 36. But I have said to you that you have seen me, and you do not believe. 37. All who my Father has given to me will come, and whoever comes not to me I will cast outside! 38. For I came down from heaven, not to do my will, but to do the will of Him who sent me. 39. And this is His will, that of Him who sent me, that all that He has given to me I do not lose even one. 40. For this is the will of my Father, that all who see the Son and believe in Him, will have life that is eternal. And I will raise him up on the last day. (Aramaic English New Testament)

Yeshua came to proclaim the Kingdom of YHWH and to do everything His Father commanded. He tore down the fences of man's legalism. Neither He nor His Apostles ever advocated against Torah!

When we get our new, immortal, incorruptible, glorified bodies in heaven and begin to reign with Christ for all eternity, how will the law be applied in eternity to come? Will we be the same man in heaven with our glorified bodies as we were on earth in the flesh? Does the law apply to eternity or eternal life? What law is eternal life subject to? We have eternal life that no man can take from us and what law does that life submit itself to? Does the law that Moses received from God here on the earth apply in the kingdom above where the throne of God is? If it applies in the kingdom above what is the law of the kingdom? If there is no law against the fruit of the Spirit, the eternal Spirit, is there any law against everlasting life?

 

[phil112]

When we get our new, immortal, incorruptible, glorified bodies in heaven and begin to reign with Christ for all eternity, how will the law be applied in eternity to come? Will we be the same man in heaven with our glorified bodies as we were on earth in the flesh? Does the law apply to eternity or eternal life? What law is eternal life subject to? We have eternal life that no man can take from us and what law does that life submit itself to? Does the law that Moses received from God here on the earth apply in the kingdom above where the throne of God is? If it applies in the kingdom above what is the law of the kingdom? If there is no law against the fruit of the Spirit, the eternal Spirit, is there any law against everlasting life?

Wow! Surprising question. I would like to think of life as boot camp. Study to show ourselves approved unto God, love Him will every fiber of our being, love our neighbor as much as we love ourselves, and when we can do that, the training is over. Heaven is our reward, not a place for further instruction.
To paraphrase Ecclesiastes 11:3, As a tree falls, so shall it lie. Where you are when you die is it. I hope we all get it right.

 

[chubbena]

Doesn't say that at all. God will put them on their hearts.

Reading comprehension is critical to proper understanding, especially in the bible, and it is a skill too many in here lack.

And Moses got it all wrong in Deut 6:6.

 

[john832]

When we get our new, immortal, incorruptible, glorified bodies in heaven and begin to reign with Christ for all eternity, how will the law be applied in eternity to come? Will we be the same man in heaven with our glorified bodies as we were on earth in the flesh? Does the law apply to eternity or eternal life? What law is eternal life subject to? We have eternal life that no man can take from us and what law does that life submit itself to? Does the law that Moses received from God here on the earth apply in the kingdom above where the throne of God is? If it applies in the kingdom above what is the law of the kingdom? If there is no law against the fruit of the Spirit, the eternal Spirit, is there any law against everlasting life?

Oh I don't know, I wonder what Laws will be around then. After all, God changes His mind so much it is hard to tell...

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Same Laws then, the same Laws now and the same Laws for eternity. Murder will always be a sin, the transgression of the Law.

 

[chubbena]

The Law was to be kept by physical effort and is the reason why Christ in His Covenant tells us that we are to die to the flesh as a means of obtaining righteousness (right standing before God). All of Scripture speaks about deeds, deeds are done either physically or spiritually. If the Law was never meant to be kept by the flesh, then it would have been unnecessary for Christ to have taught that need to have died with Him so that we can be spiritually reborn.

Those of the Old Covenant who did get "it", did understand that the whole Law must be kept and those who did and did faithfully sacrifice for their sins according to Law, did receive a Messiah when Christ went and delivered the righteous dead from Hades. Yes, they were faithful to the Law and received their Messiah.....

So did you consider Deut 6:6 at all?
Was Hebrews 11-12 referring to faith on the Law?

 

[cfultz3]

So did you consider Deut 6:6 at all?

Deu 1:1 These be the words which Moses spake unto all Israel on this side Jordan in the wilderness, in the plain over against the Red sea, between Paran, and Tophel, and Laban, and Hazeroth, and Dizahab.

Having Read from chapter 1 through 6:

Deut 1:16 judge righteously.
Deu 1:17 have no respect of persons.
Deut 4:2 do not add or take away from the LORD's commandments.
Deut 4:13 He declared unto you His covenant: even ten commandments.
Deut 4:23 Do not make graven images,
Deu 4:29 Seek the Lord with all your heart and soul.
Deut 4:30 Be obedient to His Voice.
Deut 4:40 Keep His statutes, commandments.
Deut 5:7 Have no other god before Him.
Deut 5:8-9 No graven images
Deut 5:11 Do not use the LORD's name in vain.
Deut 5:12-15 Keep the Sabbath.
Deut 5:16 Honor Mother and Father.
Deut 5:17 Do not kill.
Deu 5:18 Do not commit adultry.
Deu 5:19 Do no steal.
Deut 5:20 Do not bear false witness.
Deut 5:21 Do not covet.

Deut 5:22 These words (Deut 5) the LORD spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.

Deut 5:32-33 Observe to do as the LORD has commanded. Walk in the ways the LORD has commanded.
​

Yes, I have considered them. Which one of these will love not keep?

How do you suppose we are to keep them, physically or spiritually?

Was Hebrews 11-12 referring to faith on the Law?

This is not directly aimed at you, but it seems that my words are not quite understood. I ask that you do not consider this an attack, but I really do not understand why I am so hard to understand.

When I say that we are to keep the moral laws of God, what goes through your mind? Do you and others see me saying that we have been freed from any obedience at all or do you all see where I say such words as, "We are to be obedient to the Lord"?

When I say that Christians follow the Lawgiver, do you all see me saying that He is a Giver of Law or that He is a Giver of disobedience?

When I say that Christians are under the Son's Covenant which is a spiritual walk and not under the Covenant of Law which is a physical walk, do you all see me saying that our walk is no longer by the deeds of our flesh, but by our spirit or do you all see me saying that we can be lawless since we are no longer under the physical Covenant?

When I say that love fulfills the essence of the Law in the spiritual walk, do you all see me saying that we can be physically disobedient?

Why does it keep going back to physical obedience when the Son said that it is spiritual obedience? What comes to mind when I say "obedience"? Do you all believe that I really mean that Christ would lead contrary to His OWN will?

 

[cfultz3]

Oh I don't know, I wonder what Laws will be around then. After all, God changes His mind so much it is hard to tell...

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Same Laws then, the same Laws now and the same Laws for eternity. Murder will always be a sin, the transgression of the Law.

Are you saying that we would still have our sin nature in the Kingdom?

 

[chubbena]

Deu 1:1 These be the words which Moses spake unto all Israel on this side Jordan in the wilderness, in the plain over against the Red sea, between Paran, and Tophel, and Laban, and Hazeroth, and Dizahab.

Having Read from chapter 1 through 6:

Deut 1:16 judge righteously.
Deu 1:17 have no respect of persons.
Deut 4:2 do not add or take away from the LORD's commandments.
Deut 4:13 He declared unto you His covenant: even ten commandments.
Deut 4:23 Do not make graven images,
Deu 4:29 Seek the Lord with all your heart and soul.
Deut 4:30 Be obedient to His Voice.
Deut 4:40 Keep His statutes, commandments.
Deut 5:7 Have no other god before Him.
Deut 5:8-9 No graven images
Deut 5:11 Do not use the LORD's name in vain.
Deut 5:12-15 Keep the Sabbath.
Deut 5:16 Honor Mother and Father.
Deut 5:17 Do not kill.
Deu 5:18 Do not commit adultry.
Deu 5:19 Do no steal.
Deut 5:20 Do not bear false witness.
Deut 5:21 Do not covet.

Deut 5:22 These words (Deut 5) the LORD spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.

Deut 5:32-33 Observe to do as the LORD has commanded. Walk in the ways the LORD has commanded.
​

Yes, I have considered them. Which one of these will love not keep?

How do you suppose we are to keep them, physically or spiritually?


This is not directly aimed at you, but it seems that my words are not quite understood. I ask that you do not consider this an attack, but I really do not understand why I am so hard to understand.

When I say that we are to keep the moral laws of God, what goes through your mind? Do you and others see me saying that we have been freed from any obedience at all or do you all see where I say such words as, "We are to be obedient to the Lord"?

When I say that Christians follow the Lawgiver, do you all see me saying that He is a Giver of Law or that He is a Giver of disobedience?

When I say that Christians are under the Son's Covenant which is a spiritual walk and not under the Covenant of Law which is a physical walk, do you all see me saying that our walk is no longer by the deeds of our flesh, but by our spirit or do you all see me saying that we can be lawless since we are no longer under the physical Covenant?

When I say that love fulfills the essence of the Law in the spiritual walk, do you all see me saying that we can be physically disobedient?

Why does it keep going back to physical obedience when the Son said that it is spiritual obedience? What comes to mind when I say "obedience"? Do you all believe that I really mean that Christ would lead contrary to His OWN will?

My post#196 was in response to your #188 in which you said the law was to keep by physical effort.
I said no.
Deut 6:6 - more specifically: NIV - These commandments that I give you today are to be ON YOUR HEARTS.
More interestingly, YLT - ...and these words which I am commanding thee to-day HAVE BEEN on thine heart.
Weren't the commandments supposed to be on the heart or in the heart so they would obey from the heart?
Wasn't this the original "idea" of Yahweh which the Israelites mistook and tried to observe outwardly i.e. by physical effort?
If it wasn't His original "idea" then did He give them laws that were impossible to keep through this so called covenant of LOVE?
You said those did get it did understand the whole law must be kept and were faithful to the law - are we referring to the same people in Heb 11 whose faith we are to learn from? If so, are we to be faithful to the law also? If not, who are you referring to?

 

[TheAristocat]

In the OT, we see GRACE before LAW. In the NT, we see GRACE before LAW. GRACE IS THE ROOT OF OUR SALVATION TO COME, AND LAW IS THE FRUIT OF OUR SALVATION WE ARE WORKING OUT NOW.

So, while His death, burial, and resurrection are an important part of the Good News, it's not the whole story! God isn't just in the business of "saving" people. As Creator and law giver, He is in the business of teaching us how to be good subjects in His Kingdom to come! If "Jesus abolished Torah at the cross" then why was EVERY believer completely Torah observant for one hundred years afterYeshua's death, including the Apostle Paul who was "caught" being Torah observant 29 years afterYeshua's death (Acts 21:23-24)! Was Paul a hypocrite, saying one thing and doing another; or were his teachings, perhaps, misunderstood?

YHWH said HE would send a prophet who was to do everything He ordered him to do:

Deuteronomy 18: 15 "ADONAI will raise up for you a prophet like me from among yourselves, from your own kinsmen. You are to pay attention to him, 16 just as when you were assembled at Horev and requested ADONAI your God, 'Don't let me hear the voice of ADONAI my God any more, or let me see this great fire ever again; if I do, I will die!' 17 On that occasion ADONAI said to me, 'They are right in what they are saying. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their kinsmen. I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I order him.

Yeshua Himself said He came to do HIS FATHER's will; not His own!

John 6: 35. Y'shua said to them, I am the Bread of Life. Whoever comes to me will not hunger. And whoever believes in me will not ever thirst. 36. But I have said to you that you have seen me, and you do not believe. 37. All who my Father has given to me will come, and whoever comes not to me I will cast outside! 38. For I came down from heaven, not to do my will, but to do the will of Him who sent me. 39. And this is His will, that of Him who sent me, that all that He has given to me I do not lose even one. 40. For this is the will of my Father, that all who see the Son and believe in Him, will have life that is eternal. And I will raise him up on the last day. (Aramaic English New Testament)

Yeshua came to proclaim the Kingdom of YHWH and to do everything His Father commanded. He tore down the fences of man's legalism. Neither He nor His Apostles ever advocated against Torah!

Sorry, I didn't read the first post in the thread. But I took the point you want to get across to mean that we shouldn't just teach the Gospel but also every teaching that God has given us, including his commandments. If that's the case, I agree. God revealed to us the way to him and the way to salvation. He doesn't just teach us how to become his children; he teaches us how to act like his children.

I hope your teaching is not that works are necessary for salvation, though.