Why Would God allow!

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Kerry

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HHHMMM I often wonder if it is what God allows or what we allow?
 
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Kerry

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Good night y'all and now you can go go back to debating with out the cross man in your way. Good night.
 
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Marian29

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Richie_2uk said:
Why Would a Good God allow suffering?

Before you share your thoughts. This is not a question that I am asking you personally. Its a question that is regularly asked in general for such a long time. So please don't share your thoughts to answer as if its me asking.

In our world of pain, where is God? if he is good and compassionate, why is life often so tragic? Has he lost control? or if he is in control, what is he trying to do to me and others? These and many more questions that are asked in the world today even by practicing Christians all over the world. Maybe its you that is asking these questions.

There are some people have chosen to deny God's existence because they cannot imagine a God who would allow such misery. Some believe that God exists, but they want nothing to do with him because they don't think he could be good.
Others have settled for a belief in a kindly God who loves us but has lost control of a rebellious planet. Still others cling tenaciously to a belief in an all-wise, all-powerful, loving God somehow uses evil for good. Sounds pretty far fetched hearing that some people would or could believe in God in those ways.

As we search in the bible, we discover that it paints a picture of a God who can do anything he chooses to do. Sometimes he has acted in mercy and performed miracles in behalf of his people. at other times, though, he has chosen to do nothing to stop tragedy. He is supposed to be intimately involved in our lives. Yet at times he seems deaf to our cries for help. in the bible, he assures us that he controls all that happens, but he sometimes lets us be the targets of evil people, bad genes, dangerous viruses, natural disasters.

If you are like me, you long for some way to put together an answer to this puzzling issue of suffering. I believe that God has given us enough pieces of the puzzle to help us trust him even when we don't have all the information we would like. The Bible, we can see that the basic answers of the bible are that our good God allows pain and suffering in our world to alert us to the problem of SIN, to direct us to respond to him in faith and hope, to shape us to be more like Christ, and to unite us so that we will help each other.

Lets make this a good study in hope to give direct, purposeful and meaningful answers to the questions regarding Why God allows suffering in the world today. Please no derailing, or defusing or leading astray. Let this be a good thread to study to gain good knowledge without fights and arguments. Please give scripture to back up your thoughts and comments thank you.
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There is a mistake, which Atheist use to believe, that all the evil, injustice and tragedies in the world, is God's fault.

The fact is: since the beggining Satan stands up to fight against the Lord, then, Satan looses the fight, stands up, loose the fight... and it will continue happening TILL THE RETURN OF JESUS (Praise the Lord!), which will ANIQUILATE Satan, after the millenium.

Since the very beggining, Satan was seen traped with a sign from God, of the future sacrifice of the lamb (our Holy Lord Jesus). Satan tought he had won this fight, using Adam and Eve against the Lord, but suddenly God sacrified an animal to cover their bodies from nudity and shame, God could have done it with simple leaves, but He chose to do it with skin from a living being.

Gen. 3:21 "Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them."

Amen! Glory to God!
 
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Marian29

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posthuman said:

o i believe we'll know the truth :)

just a thought - to prove a theory of 'how' we can look at the evidence of what's done and not necessarily have to have knowledge of 'who.' but to prove a theory of 'why' a thing is done we have to look to the One who acted, right?

:) so we have to ask the Lord why suffering exists. when i've looked to Him to understand suffering that's touched my life, He has answered either showing me how that it results from sin, and He works good from it, and how that He is glorified through it, or He has answered that He is God and i am man, and that i ought to humbly trust Him, learning patience and endurance.

is it the same with you?
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Amen! May God be with you, always! :)
 
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Marian29

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ChristIsGod said:
These two verses, when seen together, seem to show that man was given freewill and that man is mainly responsible for the destruction of other men and of the planet and not God. And all the more as time goes on, via more sophisticated means.

Matt 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.


Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which are destroying the earth.



And these two verses would apply to Christians.


Rom 8:28,29 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose, for whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
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Amen, Amen, Amen!... Praise the Lord!... :)
 
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ChristIsGod said:
These two verses, when seen together, seem to show that man was given freewill
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Keeping in mind that man's will is not totally or absolutely free,
for Jesus said we are all slaves to sin (Jn 8:34),
and all mankind has been bound over to disobedience and is a prisoner of sin (Ro 11:32; Gal 3:22).

Hence, the need of a Savior.
 
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Kerry said:
HHHMMM I often wonder if it is what God allows or what we allow?
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God ordains. . .all that happens. . .for his glory. . .either for the glory of his love and mercy, or for the glory of his justice.
 
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Richie_2uk

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Joidevivre said:
I did answer you because you posted this in the blog.

Job asked the same question of God, and God never answered this question. He only revealed more of Himself. Maybe that is the lesson in suffering - to look for more ways in which God wants to reveal Himself to you.

One thing God did was take Job's eyes off of his suffering and onto God, Himself.
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If you had read the first part of the thread and blog I posted, I did say I was not asking this personally. I posted this thread more for a study for those who is asking those types of questions. I did say, and i did say clearly not to answer as if I was asking the question personally. I did honest, LOL But its great to have others input and thoughts on this subject. So it will hopeful help others who is asking these types of questions. Thank you
 
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