Within the veil part two

[VW]

Spirit calls to spirit. Deep calls to deep. The only food that will satisfy the spirit is spiritual food. One who has received the nature of God by and through the blessing of the Holy Spirit, have as a deep desire that they please their heavenly Father. When we first receive His life, we are overjoyed with the knowledge that everything has become new and that all of the old things have passed away. We don't know exactly how this miracle has happened, but we receive this truth with great joy.

But soon we find that there are troubles, and that the old things, the things that caused us shame and even distress, the little sins and attitudes from before we knew Him, are still moving us and causing us to do things we know He is not pleased with. We have the assurance that our sins are forgiven, but do we know why? For His name's sake. Our sins are forgiven for The sake of His glorious name!

But if we know Him at all, if we have His nature in any degree at all, then we will be mortified at this state of affairs. The Holy Spirit will prick our hearts as we sin, and give us some small feeling of the way our Father sees these things. There are really only two choices in this common situation. We can either ignore our sins and the convictions of the Holy Spirit, or we can renew our efforts to live a holy and sin free life.

Both of these are ineffective, and in the first case we are denying the Holy Spirit's conviction, and in the second case we are doomed to failure in the attempt to live holy and free of sin. Both are destructive, but in different ways. The first places a barrier between our hearts and the leading of the Holy Spirit, which leaves us open for deception, as we are refusing the truth. The second leaves us in one of two places, both of which are disasters to our growth into the image of Christ Jesus. The first place is utterly dejected at our failures and failings, ultimately deciding that we will never be pleasing to Him, thus giving the whole thing up as hopeless. The second is to excuse ourselves and become judgmental of everyone else in an unconcious effort to make us look better in our own eyes, where we become judges of everyone else while not judging ourselves truly.

More later, if He allows.
In Christ

 

[AnandaHya]

But if we know Him at all, if we have His nature in any degree at all, then we will be mortified at this state of affairs. The Holy Spirit will prick our hearts as we sin, and give us some small feeling of the way our Father sees these things. There are really only two choices in this common situation. We can either ignore our sins and the convictions of the Holy Spirit, or we can renew our efforts to live a holy and sin free life.

or we can chose option 3 which is to accept that we are sinners in need of a savior. we can not by our own efforts live holy and sin free lives but with the guidance of the Holy Spirit we can walk with Jesus and live lives that glorify God even if it embrasses ourselves.

God has asked His people to do things most people would not do because of pride and selfishness. would you eat over human dung for days?

well the guy God asked to do it got it changed to cow dung but still God's requests do not always make sense to those not gifted with the Holy Spirit but God does not ask for us to understand His ways but simply to trust that He will always provide and Love Him despite anything that may happen to us.

well here is a story for those of you who like reading the Bible:

Ezekiel 4

The Siege of Jerusalem Portrayed

1 “You also, son of man, take a clay tablet and lay it before you, and portray on it a city, Jerusalem. 2 Lay siege against it, build a siege wall against it, and heap up a mound against it; set camps against it also, and place battering rams against it all around. 3 Moreover take for yourself an iron plate, and set it as an iron wall between you and the city. Set your face against it, and it shall be besieged, and you shall lay siege against it. This will be a sign to the house of Israel.
4 “Lie also on your left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it. According to the number of the days that you lie on it, you shall bear their iniquity. 5 For I have laid on you the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days; so you shall bear the iniquity of the house of Israel. 6 And when you have completed them, lie again on your right side; then you shall bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days. I have laid on you a day for each year.
7 “Therefore you shall set your face toward the siege of Jerusalem; your arm shall be uncovered, and you shall prophesy against it. 8 And surely I will restrain you so that you cannot turn from one side to another till you have ended the days of your siege.
9 “Also take for yourself wheat, barley, beans, lentils, millet, and spelt; put them into one vessel, and make bread of them for yourself. During the number of days that you lie on your side, three hundred and ninety days, you shall eat it. 10 And your food which you eat shall be by weight, twenty shekels a day; from time to time you shall eat it. 11 You shall also drink water by measure, one-sixth of a hin; from time to time you shall drink. 12 And you shall eat it as barley cakes; and bake it using fuel of human waste in their sight.”
13 Then the LORD said, “So shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, where I will drive them.”
14 So I said, “Ah, Lord GOD! Indeed I have never defiled myself from my youth till now; I have never eaten what died of itself or was torn by beasts, nor has abominable flesh ever come into my mouth.”
15 Then He said to me, “See, I am giving you cow dung instead of human waste, and you shall prepare your bread over it.”
16 Moreover He said to me, “Son of man, surely I will cut off the supply of bread in Jerusalem; they shall eat bread by weight and with anxiety, and shall drink water by measure and with dread, 17 that they may lack bread and water, and be dismayed with one another, and waste away because of their iniquity.

 

[VW]

This is already a saved person, or rather, one who should be working out their salvation in fear and trembling.

Back on ignore.

 

[Red33]

or we can chose option 3 which is to accept that we are sinners in need of a savior. we can not by our own efforts live holy and sin free lives but with the guidance of the Holy Spirit we can walk with Jesus and live lives that glorify God even if it embrasses ourselves.

AnandaHya,

Whatever fruit that you bear in these conversations with VW, he will try to wither your fruit and make it as rotten as he can, so that no one will partake of it, no one likes rotten fruit. He has put you and others on ignore because he thinks that he will be contaminated by their conversation and he does not want to be influenced by anything that might be real conviction and shed light on his independent domain as a believer. He is all wrapped up in his gift and his own understanding and won't let the light of God's word penetrate the walls that he has surrounded himself with because that would expose the apron of fig leaves that he is wearing.

 

[AnandaHya]

This is already a saved person, or rather, one who should be working out their salvation in fear and trembling.

Back on ignore.

lol I was writing to my brothers and sisters in Christ. I thought I was in ignore already so why did you even respond? seems double minded to me....

as for the fear and trembling thing... well that is only when you have sinned and Disobey God. is that why you are afraid to read my words?

again for my brothers and sister in Christ. Remember God tells us "Fear not" and "worry Not"

here are some Bible verses:

2 Timothy 1:7
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”

of course this is what the spirit is whispering to VW. let is examine it in context shall we?

2 Corinthians 7

1 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
2 Open your hearts to us. We have wronged no one, we have corrupted no one, we have cheated no one. 3 I do not say this to condemn; for I have said before that you are in our hearts, to die together and to live together. 4 Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my boasting on your behalf. I am filled with comfort. I am exceedingly joyful in all our tribulation.
5 For indeed, when we came to Macedonia, our bodies had no rest, but we were troubled on every side. Outside were conflicts, inside were fears. 6 Nevertheless God, who comforts the downcast, comforted us by the coming of Titus, 7 and not only by his coming, but also by the consolation with which he was comforted in you, when he told us of your earnest desire, your mourning, your zeal for me, so that I rejoiced even more.
8 For even if I made you sorry with my letter, I do not regret it; though I did regret it. For I perceive that the same epistle made you sorry, though only for a while. 9 Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing. 10 For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death. 11 For observe this very thing, that you sorrowed in a godly manner: What diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vindication! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear in this matter. 12 Therefore, although I wrote to you, I did not do it for the sake of him who had done the wrong, nor for the sake of him who suffered wrong, but that our care for you in the sight of God might appear to you.

" one who should be working out their salvation in fear and trembling."

the above statement is called works salvation and is against the Gospel of Christ. We do NOT work out our salvation but instead because God first loved us and because we ARE saved out of love we bear fruit of the Spirit that resides in us so that GOD's NAME be glorified through our actions and Our Heavenly Father will not be ashamed or angered at our sinful acts. we do thing out of love not out of necessity to win approval or adoption by God.

one should fear nothing but God and God tells us we have a choice: obedience or chastening.

I'm not sure why I bother I'm going to spend some time with my Father. this situation just saddens my heart.

 

[Red33]

We enter into the holy of holies by faith as priests through the blood of Christ. PERIOD! All believers have access to this throne at any time because it has been consecrated (a place of renewal) for them without any exception. The blood of Christ gives us access no matter what state we are in and we can commune with the living God on that mercy seat, which is Christ, the propitiation (or mercy seat) for our sins (Rom 3:25, 1Jn 2:2, 4:10). The throne of grace and the mercy seat are the same.

Heb 10:18-20 Now where remission of these [is, there is] no more offering for sin. 19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

In this holiest place there is the mercy seat that has the blood of Christ sprinkled upon it (Lev 16:14,15, Heb 9:11-14, 20-25) and that is the place that God spoke with Moses (Ex 25:17-22) and also speaks to us, from between the two cherubims on top of the mercy seat that is covered with gold (Christ's diety) and has the blood applied (Heb 1:2, 9:14, 12:24, 1Pt 1:2). This is the same throne of grace that we boldly approach to obtain mercy and find grace to help in the time of need (Heb 4:16).

Heb 4:14-16 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast [our] profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

 

[Laodicea]

Hebrews 9:3-7
(3) And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
(4) Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
(5) And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
(6) Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
(7) But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
Hebrews 4:14
(14) Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
Daniel 8:14
(14) And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

 

[VW]

Hebrews 9:3-7
(3) And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
(4) Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
(5) And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
(6) Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
(7) But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
Hebrews 4:14
(14) Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
Daniel 8:14
(14) And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

I am getting there, if you can wait.

All of this ties together.

 

[zone]

Spirit calls to spirit. Deep calls to deep. The only food that will satisfy the spirit is spiritual food. One who has received the nature of God by and through the blessing of the Holy Spirit, have as a deep desire that they please their heavenly Father. When we first receive His life, we are overjoyed with the knowledge that everything has become new and that all of the old things have passed away. We don't know exactly how this miracle has happened, but we receive this truth with great joy.

But soon we find that there are troubles, and that the old things, the things that caused us shame and even distress, the little sins and attitudes from before we knew Him, are still moving us and causing us to do things we know He is not pleased with. We have the assurance that our sins are forgiven, but do we know why? For His name's sake. Our sins are forgiven for The sake of His glorious name!

But if we know Him at all, if we have His nature in any degree at all, then we will be mortified at this state of affairs. The Holy Spirit will prick our hearts as we sin, and give us some small feeling of the way our Father sees these things. There are really only two choices in this common situation. We can either ignore our sins and the convictions of the Holy Spirit, or we can renew our efforts to live a holy and sin free life.

Both of these are ineffective, and in the first case we are denying the Holy Spirit's conviction, and in the second case we are doomed to failure in the attempt to live holy and free of sin. Both are destructive, but in different ways. The first places a barrier between our hearts and the leading of the Holy Spirit, which leaves us open for deception, as we are refusing the truth. The second leaves us in one of two places, both of which are disasters to our growth into the image of Christ Jesus. The first place is utterly dejected at our failures and failings, ultimately deciding that we will never be pleasing to Him, thus giving the whole thing up as hopeless. The second is to excuse ourselves and become judgmental of everyone else in an unconcious effort to make us look better in our own eyes, where we become judges of everyone else while not judging ourselves truly.

More later, if He allows.
In Christ

there's another option you left out:

THIRD OPTION:

practise mysticism to appease our guilty consiences and fears (since we don't understand that God is NOT ANGRY WITH US). we do NOT REALLY believe HIM. we do NOT REALLY trust in the TRUTH that Christ did all to save us.

we depart from the one thing that can continue to work our sanctification Biblically - the continuation in the FAITH once for all delivered to the saints which is sustained by the continual hearing of the word taught, together with the Lord's Table and the fellowship of the saints.

we no longer feel part of them, since we DO NOT REALLY BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST'S SACRIFICE IS SUFFICIENT.

now that we have opened the door to the demonic realm BECAUSE WE DID NOT BELIEVE GOD, we now receive every suggestion they give us about how holy; righteous; special; gifted; supernatural we are....we are now ready to do the works of devils - SPEAK LYING WORDS TO THE CHURCH ABOUT JESUS, MAKE DEGRADING REMARKS ABOUT THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, ELEVATE OURSELVES TO POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY THAT ARE NOT OURS.

thankfully Jesus Christ's sacrifice was even sufficient to pay for these terrible offenses.

yet sadly many of these people STILL DO NOT BELIEVE THAT.

they will continue on in the charade until they are no longer looking for a way out, indeed, there is none. if anyone doubts this is what happens, LOOK AROUND.

surf the net...find out just what nonsense and blasphemy is being said in the name of Jesus Christ today.

~

THIS IS A BIGWIG IN THE NEW APOSTOLIC MOVEMENT - THEY GAVE IT TO US!

HELLO??????



Rick Joyner – Dressed as a Knight of Malta

Doesn’t Rick Joyner (right) look just smashing in this Freemasonry “Knights of Malta” outfit.


“This Order, which at various times in the progress of its history received the names of Knights Hospitalers, Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, Knights of Rhodes, and lastly, Knights of Malta, was one of the most important of the religious and military orders of knighthood which sprang into existence during the Crusades which were instituted for the recovery of the Holy Land. It owes its origin to the Hospitalers of Jerusalem, that wholly religious and charitable Order which was established at Jerusalem, in 1048, by pious merchants of Amalfi for the succor of poor and distressed Latin pilgrims…
“The Organization of the Order in its days of prosperity was very complicated, partaking of both a monarchial and a republican character. Over all presided a Grand Master, who, although invested with extensive powers, was still controlled by the legislative action of the General Chapter…”
“…There are now two bodies-one Catholic and the other Protestant, but each repudiates the other…”
“The degree of Knight of Malta is conferred in the United States as “an appendant Order” in a Commandery of Knights Templar. There is a ritual attached to the degree, but very few are in possession of it, and it is generally communicated after the candidate has been created a Knights Templar…”
Source: An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and Its Kindred Sciences,” etc. by Albert G. Mackey, M.D., Thirty-Third Degree, Volume I, published by the Masonic History Company, Chicago, New York, & London, 1925, Volume One, pp. 392-95


http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/04/06/rick-joyner-dressed-as-a-knight-of-malta/

QUESTION: can this man, from this group have the christian church's best interests at heart?

QUESTION: is this man from this group TOTALLY FROM AND OF THE OCCULT?

QUESTION: what am i become if i yoke with them?

 

[zone]

This is already a saved person, or rather, one who should be working out their salvation in fear and trembling.

Back on ignore.

what a disgrace.
you should go to your room and get on your knees and beg forgiveness for what you are doing.

 

[zone]

AnandaHya,

Whatever fruit that you bear in these conversations with VW, he will try to wither your fruit and make it as rotten as he can, so that no one will partake of it, no one likes rotten fruit. He has put you and others on ignore because he thinks that he will be contaminated by their conversation and he does not want to be influenced by anything that might be real conviction and shed light on his independent domain as a believer. He is all wrapped up in his gift and his own understanding and won't let the light of God's word penetrate the walls that he has surrounded himself with because that would expose the apron of fig leaves that he is wearing.

and THIS is the true gift of discerment at work.
THANKS RED.

and what agonizing tragedies do we have to witness before our very eyes before we ourselves learn THIS IS NOT A GAME!

and yet the Spirit said EXPRESSLY this would happen.

and though it is horrifying and heartbreaking we are going to see it EVERYWHERE.

 

[Lad]

Amen, we need to receive the holy Spirit after water baptism around the same time as we first believe. Its unfortunate many christians either dont believe in the receiving of the Spirit by saying it happens at 'conversion' or by mistakenly placing it as a second blessing to be had only after maturity. Repentance and holiness are needed in the Church today as well as unity and truth and these can only be accomplished by the Spirit living IN us not alongside us or with us as it was with the apostles when they just 'believed' without yet having 'received'

But keep going brother what your saying, so far seems right

 

[VW]

what a disgrace.
you should go to your room and get on your knees and beg forgiveness for what you are doing.

Have you?

I do so at least every day.

Actually I walk in Christ and ask His forgiveness as He shows me my sins.

do you?

 

[zone]

Have you?

I do so at least every day.

Actually I walk in Christ and ask His forgiveness as He shows me my sins.

do you?

you're a false prophet.
nothing you say can be believed.

 

[AnandaHya]

you're a false prophet.
nothing you say can be believed.

now zone, don't you know how Satan works? Don't you know Satan likes to parade as an angel of light and misquote scripture and get people to fall into the 3 traps or snares he tried to enslave Jesus with: 1. fleshly lusts & desire 2. mystical power 3. earthly dominion/rule

Remember not everything Satan says is an outright lie. we have lies of omissions, twisting of truth found in scripture and many other common tactics. we should not make if fuzzy or hazy by failing to define the tactics of Satan and His minions the fog of lies is already too thick.

lets look at a case study with Satan and Jesus in the desert:

Matthew 4

Satan Tempts Jesus

1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. 3 Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”
4 But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’”[a]
5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:


‘ He shall give His angels charge over you,’
and,


‘ In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’”

7 Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not tempt the LORD your God.’”[c]
8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”
10 Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you,[d] Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”[e]
11 Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him

 

[AnandaHya]

so how did Jesus resist Satan and make him flee?

1. Word of God is the bread of life and the water that quenches thirst of the flesh and earthly desires.
2. Fear of God prevents people from out stepping the bounds God has set concerning the spiritual realm and mystical powers such as flight and use of angels/ familiar spirits
3. Worship of ONLY GOD keeps people from trying to grasp for power and dominon that is not theirs either on Earth or in Heaven and trying to make idols of their own hands or by worshiping the fallen angels in their false light.

 

[VW]

so how did Jesus resist Satan and make him flee?

1. Word of God is the bread of life and the water that quenches thirst of the flesh and earthly desires.
2. Fear of God prevents people from out stepping the bounds God has set concerning the spiritual realm and mystical powers such as flight and use of angels/ familiar spirits
3. Worship of ONLY GOD keeps people from trying to grasp for power and dominon that is not theirs either on Earth or in Heaven and trying to make idols of their own hands or by worshiping the fallen angels in their false light.

Yep, unfortunately, you do not understand it as you think.

God is working in you and me, to form the very life of Jesus Christ in us. There are no bounds for Him and His life.

I guess that drawing near to God is mystical. Therefore, it is forbidden according to you.

Hence, also, He is able to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

 

[AnandaHya]

Yep, unfortunately, you do not understand it as you think.

God is working in you and me, to form the very life of Jesus Christ in us. There are no bounds for Him and His life.

I guess that drawing near to God is mystical. Therefore, it is forbidden according to you.

Hence, also, He is able to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

no i'm not sure what YOU mean by the words "drawing near to God" for you words are behind a hazy vagueness that doesn't make sense.

unfortunately you don't understand me as you think but I don't need your understanding only God's, just as you don't really need mine, but it would be nice if you would clarify your meaning.

tell me when have I ever said "drawing near to God is mystical"? I've spoken against not discerning the true nature familiar spirits claiming to be Jesus or angels who tell you to prophecies against God's people and the world without including in your message the promise of salvation for His chosen people but only the condemnation.

I treat you as an individual and read your words and not judge you by what others say about you or before or after you speak, do you do the same courtesy for me and my words?


Psalm 73
21 Thus my heart was grieved,
And I was vexed in my mind.
22 I was so foolish and ignorant;
I was like a beast before You.
23 Nevertheless I am continually with You;
You hold me by my right hand.
24 You will guide me with Your counsel,
And afterward receive me to glory.

25 Whom have I in heaven but You?
And there is none upon earth that I desire besides You.
26 My flesh and my heart fail;
But God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.

27 For indeed, those who are far from You shall perish;
You have destroyed all those who desert You for harlotry.
28 But it is good for me to draw near to God;
I have put my trust in the Lord GOD,
That I may declare all Your works.

 

[VW]

no i'm not sure what YOU mean by the words "drawing near to God" for you words are behind a hazy vagueness that doesn't make sense.

unfortunately you don't understand me as you think but I don't need your understanding only God's, just as you don't really need mine, but it would be nice if you would clarify your meaning.

tell me when have I ever said "drawing near to God is mystical"? I've spoken against not discerning the true nature familiar spirits claiming to be Jesus or angels who tell you to prophecies against God's people and the world without including in your message the promise of salvation for His chosen people but only the condemnation.

I treat you as an individual and read your words and not judge you by what others say about you or before or after you speak, do you do the same courtesy for me and my words?


Psalm 73
21 Thus my heart was grieved,
And I was vexed in my mind.
22 I was so foolish and ignorant;
I was like a beast before You.
23 Nevertheless I am continually with You;
You hold me by my right hand.
24 You will guide me with Your counsel,
And afterward receive me to glory.

25 Whom have I in heaven but You?
And there is none upon earth that I desire besides You.
26 My flesh and my heart fail;
But God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.

27 For indeed, those who are far from You shall perish;
You have destroyed all those who desert You for harlotry.
28 But it is good for me to draw near to God;
I have put my trust in the Lord GOD,
That I may declare all Your works.

So just because you did not understand you attacked.

I wish that I had your assurance that I knew all things, and that I knew the Godhead perfectly, even to knowing His will. I hope this serves you in the days ahead, when everything around you falls apart in a day, and you ask God why He has deserted you.

You don't think it will happen? It is coming. Soon.

Draw near to God, you don't know what I mean by that. Find this scripture and read again:

For, on the one hand, there is a setting aside of the former commandment, because of its weakness and uselessness, (for the Law made nothing perfect,) and on the other hand there is a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

This is not just a saying, it is real, and it is God's intentions that we draw near to Him in spirit and in truth, to worship Him and to grow in Him.

Oddly enough, the point of these messages.'

Which you have had a part in obscuring.

Uh oh, it seems that I quoted scripture.

In Christ,

 

[AnandaHya]

So just because you did not understand you attacked.

I wish that I had your assurance that I knew all things, and that I knew the Godhead perfectly, even to knowing His will. I hope this serves you in the days ahead, when everything around you falls apart in a day, and you ask God why He has deserted you.

You don't think it will happen? It is coming. Soon.

Draw near to God, you don't know what I mean by that. Find this scripture and read again:

For, on the one hand, there is a setting aside of the former commandment, because of its weakness and uselessness, (for the Law made nothing perfect,) and on the other hand there is a bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

This is not just a saying, it is real, and it is God's intentions that we draw near to Him in spirit and in truth, to worship Him and to grow in Him.

Oddly enough, the point of these messages.'

Which you have had a part in obscuring.

Uh oh, it seems that I quoted scripture.

In Christ,

just because someone questions and asks you to clarify your position you view it as an attack. you need to get over the victim/martyred complex.

again I state you know nothing about me. it is not possible for my comments to obscure messages from God because His Holy Spirit will shine light upon the words and show them clearly as spoken from Him and revealed to the world through His servant.

no you have not quoted scripture and that is the issue, but if you want the verses you are referring to they are in Hebrews 7 and talks about the eternal Priesthood of Jesus Christ and the new covenant of salvation He made for the world and the single sacrifice on the cross for sins.

Why do you not speak of that? why focus on people and not on JESUS? why make salvation through works and not by Faith in thanksgiving?

if you didn't know most just read the OP. it is their option to read or not read the comments made afterwards. So if people wanted they could just read your original post pray about it and comment based on that. I'm just using this opportunity to understand what your beliefs are on the matters and would really like if you stop taking everything I say to you as an attack upon your person.

as for everything fall apart around me, you have no clue...

here is the scriptures in Hebrews for the brethren who do not have access to a Bible right now.

Hebrews 7
Need for a New Priesthood


11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood.[a] 15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16 who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. 17 For He testifies:


“ You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”[c]


18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, 19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is thebringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.
Greatness of the New Priest


20 And inasmuch as He was not made priest without an oath 21 (for they have become priests without an oath, but He with an oath by Him who said to Him:


“ The LORD has sworn
And will not relent,

‘ You are a priest forever[d]
According to the order of Melchizedek’”),[e]


22 by so much more Jesus has become a surety of a better covenant.
23 Also there were many priests, because they were prevented by death from continuing. 24 But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
26 For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who isholy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; 27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.