Witnessing to All Nations final event

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Some may say this particular scripture is done with in 70AD, others may say this is still to be fullfilled. I ask do we trully pray to God for wisdom to reveal the truth on his word? Or do we follow our own thoughts ideas on what scripture means, let me know what are you views on this particular scripture is it past or present discuss and God Bless :)

Witnessing to All Nations

Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations ; and then shall the end come.

I belive this is not fullfilled yet, God bless :)
 
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Some verses folks may point to to assert it was preached to all the known world at that time..

Colossians 1
5 because of the hope reserved for you in heaven. You have already heard about this hope in the message of truth, thegospel 6 that has come to you. It is bearing fruit and growing all over the world, just as it has among you since the day youheard it and recognized God’s grace in the truth.
23 if indeed you remain grounded and steadfast in the faith and are not shifted away from the hope of the gospel that youheard. This gospel has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and I, Paul, have become a servant of it.





Romans 1
8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you because the news of your faith[[COLOR=rgb(32.156000%, 5.490000%, 0.000000%)]g[/COLOR]] is being reported in all the world.

Romans 16



25 Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to therevelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began 26 but now made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures madeknown to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith—

1 Thes 1:8
8 For from you the word of the Lord has sounded forth, not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place. Your faithtoward God has gone out, so that we do not need to say anything.

Some would assert we need to understand how the concept of all the world was understood to them.
They may point to this verse and point out a census wasn't taken in South America, Australia, etc. Thus the idea of whole world meant the known world or Roman Empire.

 Luke 2:2 And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should beregistered. 2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria. 3 So all went to be registered, everyone to hisown city.


 
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No its not for that time. Christ and all his Disciples made it clear, even the old testament even; which was quoted from, will bring about the end, in the future. Which is Now.

Because Christ himself in that chapter says, its about The false Christ arrival to deceive the world, just before he returns to rule all nations with a rod of Iron.. How people miss that I have no clue.

They are too much into traditions of men.


If they think, that a small roman tin horned general , brought about the greatest event that has ever been since the beginning of God's creation ? No. a man will not do that. But the events surrounding Christ return will.

its written there, its just a matter of , has anyone got to read it ?
 
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It's funny how the terms 'all', 'world', 'every' , 'all men', for the reformed mean what they say when it comes to preterism; but when it comes to something like limited atonement all of a sudden these terms take on a limited scope in their definition.
 
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1still_waters said:
Some verses folks may point to to assert it was preached to all the known world at that time..

Colossians 1
5 because of the hope reserved for you in heaven. You have already heard about this hope in the message of truth, thegospel 6 that has come to you. It is bearing fruit and growing all over the world, just as it has among you since the day youheard it and recognized God’s grace in the truth.
23 if indeed you remain grounded and steadfast in the faith and are not shifted away from the hope of the gospel that youheard. This gospel has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and I, Paul, have become a servant of it.





Romans 1
8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you because the news of your faith[[COLOR=rgb(32.156000%, 5.490000%, 0.000000%)]g[/COLOR]] is being reported in all the world.

Romans 16



25 Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to therevelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began 26 but now made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures madeknown to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith—

1 Thes 1:8
8 For from you the word of the Lord has sounded forth, not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place. Your faithtoward God has gone out, so that we do not need to say anything.

Some would assert we need to understand how the concept of all the world was understood to them.
They may point to this verse and point out a census wasn't taken in South America, Australia, etc. Thus the idea of whole world meant the known world or Roman Empire.

 Luke 2:2 And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should beregistered. 2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria. 3 So all went to be registered, everyone to hisown city.


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You need a new bottle of RED ink still lol j/k

I used to think just as you explain it when i first join cc, but something occur and may me think was i wrong ?

If we use the idea of in all the world meaning or meant, the known world or Roman Empire of that era. Then agree thee belivers did there part as bearing fruit in Arabia, Syria, Asia Minor, Greece, Illyricum, Rome, Spain and Judea, as we call them those to show them the good news and witness unto all the nations
And then use the final parts of this particular scripture as fullfilled by the fall of the roman empire and then shall the end come.

1. Why do we still have missionary in Asia, Syria,Arabia and so fourth spreading the Good news of Jesus Christ if they already have this witness ?

2.Why are there still false prophets in the world ?

3. How can " and then shall the end come " be only a small event as the fall of roman empire or as i call them thee divine emperors of rome that where just men? was Christ only speaking to a particular generation thee generation that witness the fall of the roman empire.

just got some black ink :) ran out of red stuff , this is just something to ponder on God bless ...
 
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The truth is that we in America do not know who we are. Yes, we are going to be tested and tried because we are a Chosen Nation. We are part of Modern Day Israel and we do not know it. By a special birthright blessing we have become Modern day Ephraim, one of the so called lost tribes of Israel.


See Gen. Ch 32, 35 and 48:
 
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