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oh lol.. ahah why did i go offshore? lol yeah i meant to say...

um.. it maybe kinda way too imaginative but. we really can't help it.. those single women,. who dont have families.. let's say they live on their own.

should they just be quiet for the rest of their lives? does that life make sense when they face Jesus?

Well like your bringing it to that, and that ain't supposed to be possible women on their own...in those times, women weren't even educated enough to support a family...and thats why women are supposed to be in a family, because they are supposed to be submitted to a head...a man, so before you try to apply a "head" rule, such as women must be quiet and get their revelation from the man...you gotta have a man, or else the head rule wont work...:)
 
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Well like your bringing it to that, and that ain't supposed to be possible women on their own...in those times, women weren't even educated enough to support a family...and thats why women are supposed to be in a family, because they are supposed to be submitted to a head...a man, so before you try to apply a "head" rule, such as women must be quiet and get their revelation from the man...you gotta have a man, or else the head rule wont work...:)

oh well. thats acceptable.. :)
well its not a sin to be single... so perhaps. yarghhh.. okay im just confusing myself lol.. thanx anyways :D
 
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The Bible teaches that God is not a respecter of persons, and He will use any and all who will yield to Him, regardless of race, age, or sex.
Galatians 3:28 - "...neither male nor female...for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
Acts 10:34 - "...God is no respecter of persons...."

Moses said in Numbers 11:29, "Would God that all the Lord's people were prophets, and that the Lord would put His spirit upon them!"

The crying need of the hour is for more laborers. It is a trick of the enemy to try to down rate thousands of our faithful laborers just because they were born females.


The Great Commission, Mark 16:15, "Preach the Gospel," is to ALL believers, and to all the church of Jesus Christ. The command to "preach the Gospel" is to both male and female.


It is an undeniable fact that God has called and anointed thousands of women to preach the Gospel. The Full Gospel organizations have hundreds of licensed and ordained women who are preaching, teaching, evangelizing, pastoring, and doing mission work with the signs following their ministry. God is using them for the salvation of the lost, deliverance from sin, gifts of the Spirit, and infilling of the Holy Spirit.


The Bible says, "Touch not mine anointed and do my prophets no harm." And may we be reminded of the Scripture in Acts 5:39, "If it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God."

When someone says, "God does not call women to preach," it is like saying that God does not baptize with the Holy Spirit today. We know better, because we have witnessed and experienced it with our own ears and eyes.

I would be afraid to condemn women preachers, lest I would be found to be fighting against God, and to be committing the vile sin of attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil.

Women preachers are a fulfillment of Bible Prophecy and another sign of Christ's soon return to earth (Joel 2:28; Acts 2:17-18)


The Bible declares that women will prophesy: 1 Cor. 11:5, "For every woman that prayeth or prophesieth...."

Both the Hebrew (Nebrah), and Greek (Proph) used for prophetess means (female preacher)

The word "Prophet" means a public expounder.

The word "Prophesy" means to speak forth, or flow forth. The Bible says in 1 Cor. 14:3, "But he that prophesieth speaketh unto MEN to edification, and exhortation and comfort.

The dictionary says, prophesy is "to speak under divine inspiration...to preach


Therefore we learn from the original translation, from the Bible interpretation, and from the dictionary, that to prophesy means more than to tell the future, but it is to speak publicly about the past, present, or future. It is to preach under the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

The Old and New Testament prophets and prophetesses were preachers of God's Word.

Even if the words prophet and preacher could be separated, how could anyone prophesy to bring exhortation, comfort and edification to the church, if she were forbidden to speak in church and was to keep silent?

Would God inspire and anoint someone to do something that was wrong and sinful???

* (There is a difference between a prophet, and the gift of prophecy.)

God called and used women preachers in the Old Testament.

a. DEBORAH - Judges 4:4-5. Deborah was a Judge for both civil and criminal cases. The children of Israel came to her for judgment. She was the chief ruler of Israel for 40 years, giving orders to the Generals and all the army. She did the work of an evangelist, prophetess, Judge, and a preacher. God gave her authority over the mighty (Judges 5:13).

b. MIRIAM - Exodus 15:20; Numbers 12:1; Micah 6:4. She was a Prophetess and a Song Leader in Israel.

c. HULDAH - 2 Kings 22:14. Five men went to Sister Huldah and communed with her. She spoke to a congregation of men concerning the book of the Law. A female preached to a man's congregation, and her message was taken to the nation and produced a revival.

d. MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ'S MOTHER - Isaiah 8:3. She was a prophetess.

God called and used women preachers in the New Testament.

a. The first message of the Resurrection of Christ was spoken by women to a group of men.

b. Anna - Luke 2:36-38. She must have prophesied in church, because she did not depart from the temple.

c. Phillip had 4 daughters who prophesied. Acts 21:9.

d. Priscilla assisted Paul in his revival meeting and even taught Apollos in the way of the Lord more perfectly.

e. Phebe - Romans 16:1-2. Paul commended Phebe to the Church at Rome and requested that they assist her in her business. She was one of Paul's assistants in the work of the Lord and delivered the Book of Romans to the people from the hand of Paul.

There is no sound reason why a woman or man should not preach the Gospel. There is a desperate need in the church for more workers. Laborers are few, and God will use any and all who will go for Him. Some say God will not use a woman to preach, because "The woman was deceived," but remember Romans 5:12: "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world." It seems to indicate that Adam was just as guilty as Eve in the fall of man. If anyone should be kept from preaching because of sin, it would be Adam. But God does not forbid anyone from preaching, because of Adam's or Eve's sin.

1 Cor. 14: 34-35 does not say anything about women preachers. If Paul intended this verse as a general rule to bar all women from speaking in church, then they cannot teach Sunday School, testify, pray, prophesy, sing, or even get saved, and this would contradict the rest of the Bible (Acts 2:4; Acts 2:16-18).

Paul was rather dealing with a particular problem in the church. Women were not educated as were the men in that day; therefore the women would talk back and forth to their husbands in church and ask questions concerning the sermon. Paul said, "If they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home; for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." If they want to talk things over let them wait until they get home. This rule is still good for the church today, where people are talking and causing confusion in the church service. They should not speak in church. (Not in the back of the church either before or after services.)

If a woman cannot speak in church, then she cannot speak in prayer meeting, young people's service, etc., for who can deny that Sunday School and Prayer meeting, and Youth work are parts of church? Christ's Church is not a building, but rather it is found where two or three are gathered together in His name, whether at a street meeting, in a tent, a home, church, classroom or anywhere else.

1 Timothy 2:12 is not a blanket rule for all women of all churches. If it were, then the women could not speak at all, for the same verse that tells them not to teach also tells them to be silent.

If all women had to keep silent in church, then that would be promoting disobedience to God, for they could not prophesy, pray, testify, sing, exhort, do personal work, or even get saved.

Whenever an interpretation to a verse contradicts the rest of the teaching of the Bible, we know this interpretation is incorrect, for the Holy Spirit will never contradict His own Word.

This is the chief verse that is used to oppose women preaching and yet it says nothing about preaching, nor does it say anything about a public worship or church service. But, on the contrary, this verse is giving instructions to wives as to how they were to conduct themselves in regard to their husband. Paul says in 1 Cor. 14:35, "And if they will LEARN anything, let them ask their husbands at home." Now he states in 1 Tim. 2:12 that the woman should learn in silence, and should not usurp authority over the man. Paul is dealing with more of a home problem than a church problem.

This verse still applies to us today. It is wrong for a woman to usurp authority over her husband (in church, home, or any place else) as was the case in Paul's day. She should not try to teach him or speak words that would cause discord and confusion, but should rather be silent and in subjection to her husband.

It is also to be understood that if anyone, whether man or woman, is usurping authority over the God-given leadership of the church, she or he is to be silent, and not to teach, or act in such a way that would create discord in the assembly.

Some have used Titus 1:6-7, "If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children...", but there is a difference between a preacher and a bishop. For I was an Evangelist and now am a Pastor, but I am not a Bishop (Overseer), and most Pastors are not.

If God called a single man with no children to be a Bishop, as Paul was, surely this verse is not opposed to it, nor would this scripture oppose a woman Bishop if she was called of God for the work, as was Deborah.

What this verse does teach is that a person who is to be a Bishop must not have two living companions, either husbands or wives.

The Bible often speaks of "man" when it refers to both men and and women inclusively. The word "mankind" also includes both men and women. For an example of this word usage see 1 Cor. 13:1 - "Though I speak with the tongues of MEN and angels...." This word "MEN" includes women as well, for we do not have one language for men and another for women.

To condemn women preachers and women church workers is a serious offense, because God has stamped His approval on them by His Spirit over and over again, and who is man to fight against the Spirit of God?

 
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To condemn women preachers and women church workers is in a sense to claim they are doing wrong and committing sin...and all those who support them and listen to them are having a part in that sin.

For anyone to do this, he must condemn approximately 99% of all the Spirit-filled believers and the vast majority of all of Christianity.

"Of a truth, I perceive that God is no respecter of persons..." (Acts 10:34).
 
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wow - thats what i was waiting for... Stayce, thats definitely true.
 
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I'm doing research into the what was going on in Ephesus when Timothy was there to give a more precise look as to why Paul wrote the way he did. however as for 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. Well to do this i need my triple threat my NASB (with words of Jesus in red lettering), my Message Bible, and my Amplified Bible.

now 1stly the 1 Cor.14: 34-35

that doesnt really make sense in the NASb cuz it seems like it contradicts itself it says women r to be silent in 34 then says in 35 that if they want to learn something then they need to ask their husbands? which makes no sense because 1 would think that they were being taught and preached to in church. same thing in the amplified as well. but it seems like women can come to church but not learn unless they ask their husbands. thats what verse 35 seems to imply.

now when i'm confused like this and need a simple and plain answer, theres only 1 place to turn and thats the message bible. The Message Bible- just seems to put God's word plainly. though the way its grouped 1 Coriunthians 14:34-36


34-36Wives must not disrupt worship, talking when they should be listening, asking questions that could more appropriately be asked of their husbands at home. God's Book of the law guides our manners and customs here. Wives have no license to use the time of worship for unwarranted speaking. Do you—both women and men—imagine that you're a sacred oracle determining what's right and wrong? Do you think everything revolves around you?

Well. now THIS makes sense.

and i also agree with Aussie_Gurl as well. God is no respector of persons. and also Matt 7:15 & 16 which says:

15"Beware of the (A)false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are (B)ravenous wolves.
16"You will (C)know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? (NASB) yet since i need more clarification its Message Bible time!


Matt 7: 15-20"Be wary of false preachers who smile a lot, dripping with practiced sincerity. Chances are they are out to rip you off some way or other. Don't be impressed with charisma; look for character. Who preachers are is the main thing, not what they say. A genuine leader will never exploit your emotions or your pocketbook. These diseased trees with their bad apples are going to be chopped down and burned. (THe Message)

so the main point is that if there aren't supposed to be women preachers then they would have bad fruit or no fruit from their teachings to the men. Yet take Joyce Meyers. with all her books and everything, she's obviously producing good fruit by teaching God's word. and even in Samuel, when Samuel had to anoint the next king, he went by looks which we can here apply to gender. because either way the result is the same.

1 Sam16:7 But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not look at his appearance or at the height of his stature, because I have rejected him; for God sees not as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance, (A)but the LORD looks at the heart." (NASB)

and in the amplified and Message it says the same thing. God sees the heart of ALL. and if the women teachers have the right heart, then would not God be pleased with them. and God would not let women preachers ministries continue or they would not bear good fruit. and besides who could forget. also who could forget John 15:1-6

The Vine and the Branches

1-3 "I am the Real Vine and my Father is the Farmer. He cuts off every branch of me that doesn't bear grapes. And every branch that is grape-bearing he prunes back so it will bear even more. You are already pruned back by the message I have spoken.


4"Live in me. Make your home in me just as I do in you. In the same way that a branch can't bear grapes by itself but only by being joined to the vine, you can't bear fruit unless you are joined with me.
5-8"I am the Vine, you are the branches. When you're joined with me and I with you, the relation intimate and organic, the harvest is sure to be abundant. Separated, you can't produce a thing. Anyone who separates from me is deadwood, gathered up and thrown on the bonfire. But if you make yourselves at home with me and my words are at home in you, you can be sure that whatever you ask will be listened to and acted upon. This is how my Father shows who he is—when you produce grapes, when you mature as my disciples. (Message)

so by this the women preachers(teachers) are ok as long as they are speaking the truth and abiding in HIM.
 
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Aussie_Gurl

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any preacher is good to speak if the holy spirit is guiding them, and not in there flesh.
u can tell those from false prophets by it lining up to Gods word and decernment and also by the fruits of the spirit
 
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The Bible teaches that God is not a respecter of persons, and He will use any and all who will yield to Him, regardless of race, age, or sex.
Galatians 3:28 - "...neither male nor female...for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
Acts 10:34 - "...God is no respecter of persons...."

Moses said in Numbers 11:29, "Would God that all the Lord's people were prophets, and that the Lord would put His spirit upon them!"

The crying need of the hour is for more laborers. It is a trick of the enemy to try to down rate thousands of our faithful laborers just because they were born females.


The Great Commission, Mark 16:15, "Preach the Gospel," is to ALL believers, and to all the church of Jesus Christ. The command to "preach the Gospel" is to both male and female.


It is an undeniable fact that God has called and anointed thousands of women to preach the Gospel. The Full Gospel organizations have hundreds of licensed and ordained women who are preaching, teaching, evangelizing, pastoring, and doing mission work with the signs following their ministry. God is using them for the salvation of the lost, deliverance from sin, gifts of the Spirit, and infilling of the Holy Spirit.


The Bible says, "Touch not mine anointed and do my prophets no harm." And may we be reminded of the Scripture in Acts 5:39, "If it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God."

When someone says, "God does not call women to preach," it is like saying that God does not baptize with the Holy Spirit today. We know better, because we have witnessed and experienced it with our own ears and eyes.

I would be afraid to condemn women preachers, lest I would be found to be fighting against God, and to be committing the vile sin of attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil.

Women preachers are a fulfillment of Bible Prophecy and another sign of Christ's soon return to earth (Joel 2:28; Acts 2:17-18)

Both the Hebrew (Nebrah), and Greek (Proph) used for prophetess means (female preacher)

The word "Prophet" means a public expounder.

The word "Prophesy" means to speak forth, or flow forth. The Bible says in 1 Cor. 14:3, "But he that prophesieth speaketh unto MEN to edification, and exhortation and comfort.

The dictionary says, prophesy is "to speak under divine inspiration...to preach


Therefore we learn from the original translation, from the Bible interpretation, and from the dictionary, that to prophesy means more than to tell the future, but it is to speak publicly about the past, present, or future. It is to preach under the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

The Old and New Testament prophets and prophetesses were preachers of God's Word.

Even if the words prophet and preacher could be separated, how could anyone prophesy to bring exhortation, comfort and edification to the church, if she were forbidden to speak in church and was to keep silent?

Would God inspire and anoint someone to do something that was wrong and sinful???

* (There is a difference between a prophet, and the gift of prophecy.)

God called and used women preachers in the Old Testament.

a. DEBORAH - Judges 4:4-5. Deborah was a Judge for both civil and criminal cases. The children of Israel came to her for judgment. She was the chief ruler of Israel for 40 years, giving orders to the Generals and all the army. She did the work of an evangelist, prophetess, Judge, and a preacher. God gave her authority over the mighty (Judges 5:13).

b. MIRIAM - Exodus 15:20; Numbers 12:1; Micah 6:4. She was a Prophetess and a Song Leader in Israel.

c. HULDAH - 2 Kings 22:14. Five men went to Sister Huldah and communed with her. She spoke to a congregation of men concerning the book of the Law. A female preached to a man's congregation, and her message was taken to the nation and produced a revival.

d. MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ'S MOTHER - Isaiah 8:3. She was a prophetess.

God called and used women preachers in the New Testament.

a. The first message of the Resurrection of Christ was spoken by women to a group of men.

b. Anna - Luke 2:36-38. She must have prophesied in church, because she did not depart from the temple.

c. Phillip had 4 daughters who prophesied. Acts 21:9.

d. Priscilla assisted Paul in his revival meeting and even taught Apollos in the way of the Lord more perfectly.

e. Phebe - Romans 16:1-2. Paul commended Phebe to the Church at Rome and requested that they assist her in her business. She was one of Paul's assistants in the work of the Lord and delivered the Book of Romans to the people from the hand of Paul.

There is no sound reason why a woman or man should not preach the Gospel. There is a desperate need in the church for more workers. Laborers are few, and God will use any and all who will go for Him. Some say God will not use a woman to preach, because "The woman was deceived," but remember Romans 5:12: "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world." It seems to indicate that Adam was just as guilty as Eve in the fall of man. If anyone should be kept from preaching because of sin, it would be Adam. But God does not forbid anyone from preaching, because of Adam's or Eve's sin.

1 Cor. 14: 34-35 does not say anything about women preachers. If Paul intended this verse as a general rule to bar all women from speaking in church, then they cannot teach Sunday School, testify, pray, prophesy, sing, or even get saved, and this would contradict the rest of the Bible (Acts 2:4; Acts 2:16-18).

Paul was rather dealing with a particular problem in the church. Women were not educated as were the men in that day; therefore the women would talk back and forth to their husbands in church and ask questions concerning the sermon. Paul said, "If they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home; for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." If they want to talk things over let them wait until they get home. This rule is still good for the church today, where people are talking and causing confusion in the church service. They should not speak in church. (Not in the back of the church either before or after services.)

If a woman cannot speak in church, then she cannot speak in prayer meeting, young people's service, etc., for who can deny that Sunday School and Prayer meeting, and Youth work are parts of church? Christ's Church is not a building, but rather it is found where two or three are gathered together in His name, whether at a street meeting, in a tent, a home, church, classroom or anywhere else.

1 Timothy 2:12 is not a blanket rule for all women of all churches. If it were, then the women could not speak at all, for the same verse that tells them not to teach also tells them to be silent.

If all women had to keep silent in church, then that would be promoting disobedience to God, for they could not prophesy, pray, testify, sing, exhort, do personal work, or even get saved.

Whenever an interpretation to a verse contradicts the rest of the teaching of the Bible, we know this interpretation is incorrect, for the Holy Spirit will never contradict His own Word.

This is the chief verse that is used to oppose women preaching and yet it says nothing about preaching, nor does it say anything about a public worship or church service. But, on the contrary, this verse is giving instructions to wives as to how they were to conduct themselves in regard to their husband. Paul says in 1 Cor. 14:35, "And if they will LEARN anything, let them ask their husbands at home." Now he states in 1 Tim. 2:12 that the woman should learn in silence, and should not usurp authority over the man. Paul is dealing with more of a home problem than a church problem.

This verse still applies to us today. It is wrong for a woman to usurp authority over her husband (in church, home, or any place else) as was the case in Paul's day. She should not try to teach him or speak words that would cause discord and confusion, but should rather be silent and in subjection to her husband.

It is also to be understood that if anyone, whether man or woman, is usurping authority over the God-given leadership of the church, she or he is to be silent, and not to teach, or act in such a way that would create discord in the assembly.

Some have used Titus 1:6-7, "If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children...", but there is a difference between a preacher and a bishop. For I was an Evangelist and now am a Pastor, but I am not a Bishop (Overseer), and most Pastors are not.

If God called a single man with no children to be a Bishop, as Paul was, surely this verse is not opposed to it, nor would this scripture oppose a woman Bishop if she was called of God for the work, as was Deborah.

What this verse does teach is that a person who is to be a Bishop must not have two living companions, either husbands or wives.

The Bible often speaks of "man" when it refers to both men and and women inclusively. The word "mankind" also includes both men and women. For an example of this word usage see 1 Cor. 13:1 - "Though I speak with the tongues of MEN and angels...." This word "MEN" includes women as well, for we do not have one language for men and another for women.

To condemn women preachers and women church workers is a serious offense, because God has stamped His approval on them by His Spirit over and over again, and who is man to fight against the Spirit of God?

The words strait up you just gotta live with the fact that we, as the created can't make up our own economy or kingdom...God made the kingdom, if we don't like we leave, we don't try to tell the king that his kingdom is something its not...whether or not we like it. Just stay in the kingdom
 
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any preacher is good to speak if the holy spirit is guiding them, and not in there flesh.
u can tell those from false prophets by it lining up to Gods word and decernment and also by the fruits of the spirit
As much as the worlds defined it that, thats not what the bible says...and even if that state seems righteous in our eyes...it ain't
 
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Aussie_Gurl

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so your saying the bible says that anyone can preach the word of God, even those who are devil worshipers? those who are out of the will of God? G2 soldier? (little confused by your last post, it could b that i just woke up lol) expand on your thoughts....
 
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so your saying the bible says that anyone can preach the word of God, even those who are devil worshipers? those who are out of the will of God? G2 soldier? (little confused by your last post, it could b that i just woke up lol) expand on your thoughts....

I'm saying we don't define the calling he does


"any preacher is good to speak if the holy spirit is guiding them, and not in there flesh.
u can tell those from false prophets by it lining up to Gods word and decernment and also by the fruits of the spirit"

Thats your perception, and I won't tell you I don't see it the same from my perception, but God has laid it out differently and whether it makes sense to our perception, were supposed to in all our ways acknowledge him, and in saying that that is God's will isn't accurate because obviously God doesn't support women being in the church above the head...and whether we like it or not it makes sense. But like you said, your perception is that women who preach are condemned, Lol and you feel its making them less. And its not making men better than women. Women are called, and men are called, but not to both be heads, if there is two of somthing then on is un-necessary. There is a position in the family for a male head, and in the church likewise. I don't see women arguing over the position in the home. But when it comes to preaching in front a congregation then their opinion all the sudden matters in the light of God...nah I don't think so God has the final, women don't loose value or womens value isn't defined by their calling, such as pastorial or prophetic, but its defined by God, so with that, stop saying were condemning you when we say that God's says no women ought to preach. It ain't an opinion due to the fact its pretty obvious on what he thinks, but in this day of age, women getting rights in america feel that they should also recieve rights in the kingdom of God, and God ain't changing his perception, so you have to change yours, if you want to remain in his kingdom :)
 
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I didnt say anything about the head of the church, which is in fact God, but it sounds like your judging, telling me if i want to remain in his kingdom, isnt that Gods choice? isnt it God that says who can enter the kingdom of God not u? I live in a relationship with God not men aka u, if God wants to show me sumthing then he can. :) I only abide by God
 

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Amen to your thread Aussie God Bless you
 
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I didnt say anything about the head of the church, which is in fact God, but it sounds like your judging, telling me if i want to remain in his kingdom, isnt that Gods choice? isnt it God that says who can enter the kingdom of God not u? I live in a relationship with God not men aka u, if God wants to show me sumthing then he can. :) I only abide by God

Good to hear your only interested in hearing God's voice, because what I'm saying is biblically sound and from God Lol, Maybe you don't like it, and thats why walls are coming up, and I'm not the one who decides your eternal home, but I am informing you that if you wish to dwell in his kingdom you must go by his laws and not anyone elses. I hope that doesn't throw you off, I thought I was perfectly clear before, I ain't God, but I know how his his culture works, and I'm telling you whats up. oh and Judgement, Lol, Man can't judge...like can't its impossible, I can share my opinion and tell you what I think is right and even declare it right and tell you that your going to a certain place, but thats judgement, and thats not even what I was doing either so, for all loves sake i wasn't judging, I was sharpening the countanence of a brother. I believe you asked me to expand my thoughts, and I didn't, I just told you what the word says, much love, don't feel I'm attacking you Lol, Mark 3:24 So why would I fight the body of Christ Lol, I'm just telling you the truth, whether you want to soak it up, or call it truth is completely up to you. Or maybe I'm wrong, enlighten me with the word.
 

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Here is a thought... If women should not teach in the church, why do we allow/encourage them to teach our children in Sunday School?
 
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Lil_warrior

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oh come on, preacher women have the same chance of saving a soul as men do.
 
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Yo guys, you missing it completely, its not saying you not capable, but your not called, God has other plans for women...it's like me creating a wheel for a bike, and then saying nah I think I'll use the handle bars instead. It's not about deserving or what your entitled too...If God said that we are nothing without him, then what would make us think we are entitled to anything...I mean if you really understand that, that he completes you, it wouldn't both you so much when the word said women are not called to preach to the body. I think someday if you really want to sort this out, we should get a chat room and lay it down, that way its not confusing. Because I know the forums are for discussion, but if you really want to answer this question, we should go to chats :)

Let me know if anyone in the future would like to do so.
 
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Let me clarify the analogys, "It's like me creating or designing a circular wheel but instead of using it as a foundation for the bike something that makes it mobile I decide that the design of the wheel would be better used as a steering device, even though the purpose for the wheels creation was for enabling the bike to move. that wouldn't make sense would it? I'm kinda asking dumb questions, but I want to make sure its in perspective. Just like God created you, he's designed us for different purposes, men don't have the same purpose as women, and that shouldn't surprise anyone looking at our designs. Spiritually we are the same. But as far as our purpose or reason for creation is different, and thats not an opinion, you'll find it through out the bible. God's designed us for different purposes, I know you feel a certain way, maybe your not excited about the purpose you've been designed for. But God's as the creator makes the rules, and defines purpose, which means what I'm saying ain't opinion, its biblical. Gods words not my own. So don't target me if you don't like. But for real though, I mean if its his word that says thats your purpose don't get all angry Lol, he owns you yo, if he said your where created for picking up garbage, would you argue? you might want to, cause your not happy about your purpose, but that doesn't change the fact that's your purpose, so if God's given you a purpose, don't fight it, there's no point, your going to seperate yourself from his covering. It's just not safe, if a hammer was used for screwing in screws...pretty ridiculous, so if your hammer leave it to the screw to do its job, and then just do yours. Doesn't mean the hammer is better than the screw, its was just designed for a different purpose.

Be Blessed! WOohoo!
 
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