Works With Faith Does Not Make Saving Faith

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of course not, He only requires of us that we use the Faith that He gives to those of us
that He has chosen to give it to, and then we grow from Faith to Faith, as He has said...
it's an 'on-going process until the end...
 
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Jesus said to build your house on the Rock of truth,
The Matthew 7:13-27 & Luke 13:24-30 references are for rebuking the iniquity that one can receive the Holy Spirit apart from salvation as it is seen by giving another calling to approach God by way of the Holy Spirit in asking the Holy Spirit Himself to come and fall on them after a sensational sign in the flesh which is usually done in confusion, including tongues without interpretation.

This is what is meant to build His House on the rock wherein those that do not heed the only way in approaching God the Father by ( John 14:6 & John 10:1 ), are likened to having their house built on sand which is why saved believers are falling down in loss of self control in these "movements of the ' Spirit ' " which is not the real indwelling Holy Spirit, but the spirit of the antichrist. They can claim all the miracles they want as they do in Matthew 7:21-23, but they are workers of iniquity which is why by denying Him by that iniquity is why they are being denied entrance to the Marriage Supper; Luke 13:24-30

Unless they repent with His help by stop chasing after what they believe is the Holy Spirit for a sign when He is in them as promised at their salvation at the calling of the gospel, and to shun vain & profane babbling by praying normally so that they know what they had prayed for to give the Father genuine thanksgivings in Jesus's name for known answers to prayers.

to dig deep and lay a solid foundation, lest one be swept away by the flood of lies and tribulation.....sounds like work to me...i would suggest rather than reading flesh based biblical scholars, one might want to read the story of the little red hen... be blessed
That foundation is laid by Jesus Christ by believing in Him to be saved, and thus the foundation is laid. Saved believers can only build on that foundation by either sowing to the fruits of the Spirit or to the works of the flesh wherein the dire consequences for defiling the Temple of God is physical death by being cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation so that the spirit may be saved in the day of Christ when they shall be received as vessels unto dishonor in His House after the great tribulation.

1 Corinthians 3:[SUP]10 [/SUP]According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.[SUP] 11 [/SUP]For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.[SUP]12 [/SUP]Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;[SUP] 13 [/SUP]Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.[SUP] 14 [/SUP]If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.[SUP] 15 [/SUP]If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.[SUP] 16 [/SUP]Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?[SUP]17 [/SUP]If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

1 Corinthians 6:[SUP]19 [/SUP]What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?[SUP] 20 [/SUP]For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

1 Peter 4:[SUP]17 [/SUP]For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?[SUP] 18 [/SUP]And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?[SUP] 19 [/SUP]Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

We can trust the Lord Jesus Christ in being faithful in keeping the souls of His saints that gets left behind at the pre trib rapture event for He shall lose none of all the Father has given Him.

John 6:[SUP]39 [/SUP]And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.[SUP]40 [/SUP]And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Your unspoken reference below..

Luke 6:[SUP]46[/SUP]And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?[SUP] 47 [/SUP]Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:[SUP] 48 [/SUP]He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.[SUP] 49 [/SUP]But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

So what are His sayings to be liken to that guy who digged deep laying that foundation?

John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me....[SUP]13 [/SUP]And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.[SUP] 14 [/SUP]If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber....[SUP]7 [/SUP]Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

That is why in taking your reference with Matthew 7:13-27 & Luke 13:24-30 is how you understand that you digged deep in laying that foundation is by knowing that the Son of God is the only way to approach God the Father by for salvation as well as for living that reconciled relationship with God through and that is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Bridegroom.

Hearing His saying and doing them is how you can avoid falling down in those movements of the " Spirit " which is not really the Holy Spirit when they seek to receive the Holy Spirit apart from salvation after a sign which usually leads into falling down and into confusion. It is because of the falling away from the faith is why God will be judging His House at the pre trib rapture event to restore the wayward lost sheep back to the path of righteousness for His name's sake by leaving them behind to be damned as vessels unto dishonor in His House to be received after the great tribulation.

So unless they repent with His help and stop chasing after that which only causes them to fall down into confusion and shun vain & profane babbling to pray normally, they run that risk of being denied entrance to the Marriage Supper; Luke 13:24-30.

But there is no real work on your part in establishing that foundation when you do what He says and that is to believe in Him to be saved and thus the foundation is laid by Jesus Christ and to continue to come to Him in all things to prevent building works that deny Him on that foundation which includes heresy...otherwise, they shall be denied as workers of iniquity.... and cause their house to fall when they seek to receive the Holy Spirit apart from their salvation after a sign.

Digging deep is keeping the faith and tradition taught unto you as to when you had received the sanctification of the Spirit & the belief of the truth at the calling of the gospel.

2 Thessalonians 2:[SUP]13 [/SUP]But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:[SUP] 14 [/SUP]Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.[SUP]15 [/SUP]Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.