I don't disagree with Ahwatukee except the proper key must be used .. I'd rather believe all names were in the book in the beginning .. Even Pharaoh relented a couple times and then hardened his heart before God hardened it for him .. Everybody in hell will be crying ''why didn't I listen'' but no one will be able to blame God nor will they want God, they just won't like hell ..
Would it be safer to die early in Lord ?
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Regarding all names being in the book from the beginning, scripture does not teach that concept. Scripture does teach that there were names that were not written and there were names that were written, all taking place before the world began.
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"And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain."
"And those who dwell on the earth whose names were not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world will marvel when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet will be."
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The two scriptures above reveal when the names of the wicked were not written in the book of life. At the same time, it also tells when the names of the righteous were written.
Simply put, before the creation of the world, there were names that were not written in the book of life and there were names names that were written. Therefore the proper key is to believe what the word of God has to say on this and any given subject. We can't ignore the meaning of those two scriptures.
I don't teach off the cuff of my sleeve. Every topic that I post on is concluded from all related scriptures. That said, those two scriptures above kills any idea that all names were written in the book of life.
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"And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain."
"And those who dwell on the earth whose names were not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world will marvel when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet will be."
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The two scriptures above reveal when the names of the wicked were not written in the book of life. At the same time, it also tells when the names of the righteous were written.
Simply put, before the creation of the world, there were names that were not written in the book of life and there were names names that were written. Therefore the proper key is to believe what the word of God has to say on this and any given subject. We can't ignore the meaning of those two scriptures.
I don't teach off the cuff of my sleeve. Every topic that I post on is concluded from all related scriptures. That said, those two scriptures above kills any idea that all names were written in the book of life.
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I agree, you are correct and I was wrong , the Word is the final authority, again then, your name must be written in the Lambs book of life so does that disprove OSAS ? I'd think so if your name can be blotted out ..
And again I think God has a criteria he has/had in mind ..
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
And again I think God has a criteria he has/had in mind ..
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
It boil down to how we define hell .If we make it after the suffering of this life. Doctrines like purgatory are invented and dead men's bones are dug up and put on trial .Like that of Pope Formosa and then are pases around the circuit to be venerated.
All of corrupted mankind suffer the wage of sin death as in . . "you will surely die". death according to the letter of the law (the whole Bible) and the sufferings of hell as the punish men will be cast into the judgment of Christ. Never to rise and condemn through corruption another entire creation .
Its appointed for all men to die one . The idea that person will not die and his body return to the clay of the field is not biblical .
Those who have feely been given a new born again spirit they alone will rise and receive the propmised of a new incorruptible body.
Ecclesiastes 12:7Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
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All of corrupted mankind suffer the wage of sin death as in . . "you will surely die". death according to the letter of the law (the whole Bible) and the sufferings of hell as the punish men will be cast into the judgment of Christ. Never to rise and condemn through corruption another entire creation .
Its appointed for all men to die one . The idea that person will not die and his body return to the clay of the field is not biblical .
Those who have feely been given a new born again spirit they alone will rise and receive the propmised of a new incorruptible body.
Ecclesiastes 12:7Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
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You did contradict yourself saying scripture does not teach that concept.
The books are more than one .Two makes up the witness of God. .. The book of temporal life every person that God would give the temporal spirit life to. And two. . . the book of the lamb slain from before the foundation of thing things seen. (the temporal) When they are compared . The names found in the lambs book of life slain from before the foundation will make up the one book .The other book will be blank. One by one names erased when compared.
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The books are more than one .Two makes up the witness of God. .. The book of temporal life every person that God would give the temporal spirit life to. And two. . . the book of the lamb slain from before the foundation of thing things seen. (the temporal) When they are compared . The names found in the lambs book of life slain from before the foundation will make up the one book .The other book will be blank. One by one names erased when compared.
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