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Elizabeth619

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So are you saying god made me an atheist? He didn't choose me? He blinded me?
Encouraging isn't it? To know that people think you were born to rot in a fiery Hell, and you never had hope.

Don't worry. That isn't what the bible says. You still have hope. :)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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So are you saying god made me an atheist? He didn't choose me? He blinded me?
God did not say this. He said he loved ya, The same gift he offered all of us, he offers you. He is no respector of persons, he loves ALL his creation.. willing that NONE should perish but ALL should come to eternal life.

don;t listen to people like this. they do not speak for God.
 
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Elizebeth once more with this.

John 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.

Do you understand what that says? You can not go to Jesus, Unless God sends you to him.

MAYNARD
And as for my talking to non belivers...For the last 40 years, I have been going door to door, 100 hours a month, talking to all that would listen. Going door to door preaching the Good News of the Kimgdom is a command from Jesus. I don't think I've seen you out there. Do you know what the good news of the kingdom is?
 
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Elizebeth once more with this.

John 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.

Do you understand what that says? You can not go to Jesus, Unless God sends you to him.

MAYNARD
And as for my talking to non belivers...For the last 40 years, I have been going door to door, 100 hours a month, talking to all that would listen. Going door to door preaching the Good News of the Kimgdom is a command from Jesus. I don't think I've seen you out there. Do you know what the good news of the kingdom is?

You forgot the rest of the passage.,


[SUP]39 [/SUP]This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. [SUP]40 [/SUP]And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

The very people Jesus spoke to were drawn by God by what Jesus did the day before. But they did not come because they believed, they came because they wanted a handout..

Like the passage of scripture says, Many are CALLED, few are chosen..



 
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me thinks reformed theology is a mental illness.
signed, the dog:cool:
 
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Encouraging isn't it? To know that people think you were born to rot in a fiery Hell, and you never had hope.

Don't worry. That isn't what the bible says. You still have hope. :)
You seem to not understand the Bible. There is no fiery hell. I will be happy to teach you.

Here is the condition of the dead;

Ec 9:5-10
Ps 146:3=4
Job 11:20

There are more if you need them.
 
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You seem to not understand the Bible. There is no fiery hell. I will be happy to teach you.

Here is the condition of the dead;

Ec 9:5-10
Ps 146:3=4
Job 11:20

There are more if you need them.
Have you died or rather crucified the flesh yet?
 
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I wii let Jesus judge me. No you, or anyone you follow, or try to lead.
Is that a yes or a no? If you are have the faith to say it. I judge you not. But if you are then then think as though one of those in the verses you posted and think as one of them without knowledge of neither good not evil.

We only know Christ, and Him crucified.
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Domenic - I don't think anyone here is trying to judge you,but we do have the right to judge what you are saying,or at the very least question it. I still don't get where you come up with some of your beliefs,as some of it I can't even find in my bible. You mentioned that you go door to door spreading the Good News of the Kingdom of God 100 hours a month...I hope when you are doing this you are just sticking to the basics. That Jesus died for our sins & rose from the dead,that we need to accept him into our hearts & be saved,and not any of this other bizzare stuff you come out with in your posts.
 

Elizabeth619

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You seem to not understand the Bible. There is no fiery hell. I will be happy to teach you.

Here is the condition of the dead;

Ec 9:5-10
Ps 146:3=4
Job 11:20

There are more if you need them.
I understand the bible fine. It's your theology I do not accept as truth.
 
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Domenic - I don't think anyone here is trying to judge you,but we do have the right to judge what you are saying,or at the very least question it. I still don't get where you come up with some of your beliefs,as some of it I can't even find in my bible. You mentioned that you go door to door spreading the Good News of the Kingdom of God 100 hours a month...I hope when you are doing this you are just sticking to the basics. That Jesus died for our sins & rose from the dead,that we need to accept him into our hearts & be saved,and not any of this other bizzare stuff you come out with in your posts.
Do you go door to door as we are commanded? Do you tell people the Good News of the Kingdom? Do you understand what the Good New of the Kingdom is?

If not, I don't understand why a Christian does not...and I'm not judging you. Since you question me, I feel I have a right to question you.
 

Elizabeth619

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All I wanna know is why Jehovah's Witness are all about knocking on your door when they are all about predestination.
 
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Elizabeth, because the literature has to be put to some use.

"Crap! We accidentally printed millions of copies of this booklet. What do we do?"
"Quick! Let's make up a religion and peddle the booklets door to door".
"Brilliant".
 

Elizabeth619

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Elizabeth, because the literature has to be put to some use.

"Crap! We accidentally printed millions of copies of this booklet. What do we do?"
"Quick! Let's make up a religion and peddle the booklets door to door".
"Brilliant".
Did you know the majority of the end times(failed) prophecies were originally conjured by Jehovah's witness?
 

damombomb

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Another thing about JW they say the teach the kingdom, but only teach 144,000 will go to heaven when the bible clearly
states there will be an innumerable multitude around the throne that no man can number.who have came out of great tribulation wearing white robes and overcame by the blood of the lamb
 
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All I wanna know is why Jehovah's Witness are all about knocking on your door when they are all about predestination.
Why do you ask me that. Do I look like a Library? I am not a memner of any religion. Let me ask you a question. Why do Eastern religions think cows, and flys used to be humans?

And Jehovahs Witness are not about predestintion. you have your facts wrong.
 
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Elizebeth once more with this.

John 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.

Do you understand what that says? You can not go to Jesus, Unless God sends you to him.

MAYNARD
And as for my talking to non belivers...For the last 40 years, I have been going door to door, 100 hours a month, talking to all that would listen. Going door to door preaching the Good News of the Kimgdom is a command from Jesus. I don't think I've seen you out there. Do you know what the good news of the kingdom is?
Deformed theology likes to find a verse they can squeeze into a limited statement.
Lets put this verse next to John 6:64 and see what happens.

2 Corinthians 5:19 (NKJV)
19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

Besides Jesus point was made to Israelites, who had their back turned on God. Noway were they going to believe in the Son. Jesus explained this to the Pharisees earlier. If you knew Moses you would know me. If you knew Abraham you would know me.
His point is this, If you have your back turned away from God you will not be drawn to the Son. Nothing more than that.

For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him.

John 1:12
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

1John 2:23

Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

John 5:23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

1 John 5:1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well.

1 John 4:15 If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God.

1 John 5:20 We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

2 John 1:9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.


Dozens more. But in the days Jesus walked the earth He was talking to people who never knew who He was but they only knew the Father. So He could say noone comes to me unless the Father draws them.
Meaning all who worshipped God and feared Him and only them would come to the Son.

Today anyone at all who seeks God will be drawn by the Father. While the HolySpirit is working on the hearts of all men until they are reprobate. Shouldnt try to make too much from one or two verses unless you want to misunderstand something.


"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.