Ye shall eat of it not, ye shall die

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how did this suddenly become about meat?
trying to change the subject are you?
 

Zmouth

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Brother granpa, you are quoting from the book of Enoch, a historical book but not the inspired Word of God. :p
Actually the Book of Enoch is that fruit of the imaginary tree, hence the instruction written in the NT that thou shall make or love no lie.

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matt 5:48

Which if you ask Him I am sure He would tell you the same, to the God of truth, if you would neither make a lie of his Word, nor love a lie as His Word, for his Word is Truth. If you would read Deuteronomy 18:10-12 you will see the things whereby you can be perfect as Jesus said. Thus, in Deuteronomy 18:13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God since as written in Revelations
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.


But the evidence that the Book of Enoch and the Book of Jasher to mention a couple are fakes, the Holy Ghost didn't teach man the ability of writing the spoken written word until the time that the global society was disbanded as reference in the scriptures as being at the time of the tower of Babel. So without the knowledge of the written spoken word then no man had the ability to write the book at the time Enoch was translated, which is a term that infers raptured.
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. Heb 11:5

Errors in principle start off like little rain clouds, the errors turn into more lying that produces more confusion,which in then begins to build to fear until the Spirit explodes and violence starts raining down on all men until there is no man left as written in the following passage. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Matt 24:22
 
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At-a-glance/The Bible - Religion-wiki

And the woman saith unto the serpent, `Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we do eat,
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said,
"Ye shall eat of it not, ye shall die"

and in those days shall men seek the death, and they shall not find it, and they shall desire to die, and the death shall flee from them.

And the woman seeth that the tree [is] good for food, and that it [is] pleasant to the eyes, and the tree is desirable to make [one] wise, and she taketh of its fruit and eateth, and giveth also to her husband with her, and he doth eat;
 

notuptome

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At-a-glance/The Bible - Religion-wiki

And the woman saith unto the serpent, `Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we do eat,
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said,
"Ye shall eat of it not, ye shall die"

and in those days shall men seek the death, and they shall not find it, and they shall desire to die, and the death shall flee from them.

And the woman seeth that the tree [is] good for food, and that it [is] pleasant to the eyes, and the tree is desirable to make [one] wise, and she taketh of its fruit and eateth, and giveth also to her husband with her, and he doth eat;
Did men die before the flood? If so then the fall occurred before the flood because there was no death before the fall.

Now the times of Noah were exceedingly wicked with each man doing that which was right in his own eyes. This indicates that sin was well into its work among men corrupting them and separating them from the knowledge of God.

So far as I can see this theory is all wet. The serpent beguiled Eve in the garden and man was driven from the garden long before Noah.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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. Even God would have a shadow (despite his being completly selfless), though many people, consciously or unconsciously, think otherwise.
(the difference between a God with a shadow and a God without a shadow might seem trivial but a little leaven leavens the whole)
James 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
 
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But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said,
"Ye shall eat of it not, ye shall die"

according to my Bible study (At-a-glance/The Bible - Religion-wiki) the fall would have occurred shortly after they left the ark after the flood.
What did God command them not to eat after the flood?

this is also the same time that the scorpions emerge from the smoke and torment men for 5 months
whatever you are drinking is not good for you ...it shows up in your writing.....that information you presented is not from the scripture...at least not in that order.... so your bible is wrong.....is that a wiki bible or a weak bible....
 

posthuman

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Even God would have a shadow
there's no darkness in the center of a flame.
opaque objects cast shadows. light sources do not.
where there is complete transparency, light is not dimmed.

and night shall not be there, and they have no need of a lamp and light of a sun,
because the Lord God doth give them light

(Revelation 22:5)


 
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At-a-glance/The Bible - Religion-wiki

And I saw a messenger coming down out of the heaven, having the key of the abyss, and a great chain over his hand,
2 and he laid hold on the dragon, the old serpent, who is Devil and Adversary, and did bind him a thousand years,
3 and he cast him to the abyss

the dragon represents death. Casting the dragon into the abyss represents mankind overcoming death.during this time men are immortal.
this sounds ideal but

And the fifth messenger did sound, and I saw a star out of the heaven having fallen to the earth, and there was given to it the key of the pit of the abyss,
2 and he did open the pit of the abyss, and there came up a smoke out of the pit as smoke of a great furnace, and darkened was the sun and the air, from the smoke of the pit.
3 And out of the smoke came forth locusts to the earth, and there was given to them authority, as scorpions of the earth have authority,
4 and it was said to them that they may not injure the grass of the earth, nor any green thing, nor any tree, but -- the men only who have not the seal of God upon their foreheads,
5 and it was given to them that they may not kill them, but that they may be tormented five months, and their torment [is] as the torment of a scorpion, when it may strike a man;
6 and in those days shall men seek the death, and they shall not find it, and they shall desire to die, and the death shall flee from them.

And the woman saith unto the serpent, `Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we do eat,
3 and of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden God hath said, Ye do not eat of it, nor touch it, lest ye die.'

And the woman seeth that the tree [is] good for food, and that it [is] pleasant to the eyes, and the tree is desirable to make [one] wise, and she taketh of its fruit and eateth, and giveth also to her husband with her, and he doth eat;
 
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The beast that thou didst see: it was, and it is not; and it is about to come up out of the abyss, and to go away to destruction, and wonder shall those dwelling upon the earth, whose names have not been written upon the scroll of the life from the foundation of the world, beholding the beast that was, and is not, although it is.
9 `Here [is] the mind that is having wisdom; the seven heads are seven mountains, upon which the woman doth sit,
10 and there are seven kings, the five did fall, and the one is, the other did not yet come, and when he may come, it behoveth him to remain a little time;
11 and the beast that was, and is not, he also is eighth, and out of the seven he is, and to destruction he doth go away.
 

SolidGround

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So, all this was just to support annihilationism?