You Are A New Creation!
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James 1:
13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
Temptation is nothing but the lust of our flesh drawing us away from God.
Eventually in our walk with God, we get to the point where we decide that the lust we are faced with is not worth our leaving the Father.
13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
Temptation is nothing but the lust of our flesh drawing us away from God.
Eventually in our walk with God, we get to the point where we decide that the lust we are faced with is not worth our leaving the Father.
T
I do not consider myself greater than the apostle Paul ... who declared that he was at war with his flesh ... for I do what i do not want to do, and do not do what i want to do. Paul made many references to a Christian as a soldier at war ...
We do war against the flesh and against principalities ...
We should take care that we do not consciously deny that this struggle is real and happening lest we fall into complacency?
Fight the good fight until your last breath.
We do war against the flesh and against principalities ...
We should take care that we do not consciously deny that this struggle is real and happening lest we fall into complacency?
Fight the good fight until your last breath.
The flesh is not the real us in our new creation in Christ. The flesh is still left in this body which is why when we die - we go straight to be with the Lord.
There is no need of an all of a sudden cleansing of the new creation in Christ in order to be in heaven. The new creation in Christ has been created in righteousness and holiness.
Galatians 5:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For the flesh sets its desireagainst the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.
Romans 6:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts,
Romans 13:14 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh in regard to its lusts.
The flesh is not of the Father nor is it the true us in the Lord - in our new creation in Christ. John says that the flesh is off the world. 1 John 4:16 and that we are not of the world.
We are responsible with what we do with our bodies while we are in this earth so let's walk by the Spirit and live above the things of this world.
So, let's be "believers" and identify with what Christ has done for us and that God has created a new creation in Him. His life in us will bring forth much fruit as we work out what is already inside of us by grace through faith.
There is no need of an all of a sudden cleansing of the new creation in Christ in order to be in heaven. The new creation in Christ has been created in righteousness and holiness.
Galatians 5:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For the flesh sets its desireagainst the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.
Romans 6:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts,
Romans 13:14 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh in regard to its lusts.
The flesh is not of the Father nor is it the true us in the Lord - in our new creation in Christ. John says that the flesh is off the world. 1 John 4:16 and that we are not of the world.
We are responsible with what we do with our bodies while we are in this earth so let's walk by the Spirit and live above the things of this world.
So, let's be "believers" and identify with what Christ has done for us and that God has created a new creation in Him. His life in us will bring forth much fruit as we work out what is already inside of us by grace through faith.
L
what is hyper grace?
all I have is my Bible and the assurance of salvation..you know, in Christ, as in no other name under heaven whereby we might be saved?
is there some other process I am not aware of?
is hyper grace brought on by too much caffeine or what? sounds tiresome LOL!
It is my understanding that gnostics...although why you keep bringing them up only God knows...thought it was fine to keep sinning and that only your spirit mattered. Now I know it's more complicated then that, but for simplicity's sake there yah go
I keep myself from sin, I don't live in sin, but if I do sin (and don't we all) I have an advocate with my Father. Jesus paid the price for all my sins and I intend to take advantage of that and since He did, I don't want to run up too much debt...not that I could mind you, but it does keep a person from sinning when they realize how deep the Father's love is...that's even a song that some might know...beautiful song too by the way...but I digress
Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. Phil 4:8
T
Our spirit and heart of course have already been made new ... but our flesh, the flesh we war against, must change...
[FONT="]50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.[/FONT]
[FONT="]51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,[/FONT]
[FONT="]52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.[/FONT]
[FONT="]53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.[/FONT]
[FONT="]54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.[/FONT]
[FONT="]55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?[/FONT]
[FONT="]56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.[/FONT]
[FONT="]57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.[/FONT]
[FONT="]58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.[/FONT]
Galatians 6:14-15 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But may it never be that I would boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.
If we teach people the truth about the new creation in Christ - then they will "Awake to righteousness and sin not"...awake to who they really are in Christ.
..awake in Greek - means to come to oneself, to sober up to who you are. Exciting isn't it?
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But may it never be that I would boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.
If we teach people the truth about the new creation in Christ - then they will "Awake to righteousness and sin not"...awake to who they really are in Christ.
..awake in Greek - means to come to oneself, to sober up to who you are. Exciting isn't it?
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Amen. In this version of faith we are now perfectly holy, righteous without sin or the ability to sin. No flesh to deal with, everything delivered from day one.
Positive side, no total inability doctrine. Negative side, no admission of failure or sinful behaviour that needs addressing through repentance, confession and faith.
And no dealing with your emotions, being real about the heart and resolving conflicting emotions, desires and issues.
In the car analogy this is being given an actual whole perfect new car magically on the point of faith with no history of failure or issues.
Now that would be nice, but there is zero reality of this happening to anybody.
Sounds like another attempt to reinvent hyper-grace into another theology. Why not just accept reality and Jesus's gospel.
It is the path that matters, discipleship and learning to follow and learn. But it is probably this path that is hated so much any version that denies this is necessary is the key, not just admitting and bowing the knee to Jesus in obedience.
Positive side, no total inability doctrine. Negative side, no admission of failure or sinful behaviour that needs addressing through repentance, confession and faith.
And no dealing with your emotions, being real about the heart and resolving conflicting emotions, desires and issues.
In the car analogy this is being given an actual whole perfect new car magically on the point of faith with no history of failure or issues.
Now that would be nice, but there is zero reality of this happening to anybody.
Sounds like another attempt to reinvent hyper-grace into another theology. Why not just accept reality and Jesus's gospel.
It is the path that matters, discipleship and learning to follow and learn. But it is probably this path that is hated so much any version that denies this is necessary is the key, not just admitting and bowing the knee to Jesus in obedience.
T
I guess that depends on who "we" is.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. 12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
MATT 24:
45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. 12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
MATT 24:
45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
This statement is connecting two things that are not actually connected. Struggle with sin - I am addicted to stealing, faith in believing I have been born again.
How would having a sense of who I am change how I behave. Addiction is because of emotional satisfaction through sin. The chain of events are a reality, which is what drives the behaviour. Until you break the emotional reasons behind the behaviour it will not change.
Jesus's solution is repentance, confession and asking for forgiveness. This is not realising I am born again.
A born again christian can still steal. It is why people fall away, because the behaviour breaks the relationship, and leads to failure of communion with God.
How would having a sense of who I am change how I behave. Addiction is because of emotional satisfaction through sin. The chain of events are a reality, which is what drives the behaviour. Until you break the emotional reasons behind the behaviour it will not change.
Jesus's solution is repentance, confession and asking for forgiveness. This is not realising I am born again.
A born again christian can still steal. It is why people fall away, because the behaviour breaks the relationship, and leads to failure of communion with God.