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RichMan

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Nehemiah6 said:
But you still remain his son biologically. And children of God remain children of God through the New Birth. And God does not "disinherit" His children. Rather He chastises them.
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I have often wondered how those who believe salvation can be lost deal with the uncertainty
of sinning to the point of losing their salvation, but then I realized they believe they do not sin.
 
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SophieT said:
maybe we should flog ourselves or become ascetics so avoid the wrath of God
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Why do you think so many people have become monks who flog themselves? Yet Paul condemns asceticism in Scripture.
 
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Phoneman-777 said:
The devils believe...and tremble.
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They believe that God is one and tremble

They cannot have believed the gospel, they cannot have believed that Jesus was the Lamb of God sent to die for our sins ... if they had believed that they would have done everything they could to keep Him alive.

There is a believing in doctrines that is not the faith which saves. True faith always results in correspondent action or works.
 
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Phoneman-777 said:
The devils believe...and tremble.
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The devils or demons believe what? They believe without the shadow of a doubt that (1) the Lord God Almighty is sovereign over all His creatures and that they are subject to His wrath, (2) there is no redemption for evil angels and demons, and (3) their place in eternal Hell -- the Lake of Fire -- is guaranteed. Hence they tremble. The demons begged Christ (in one incident) not to consign them to the bottomless pit in order to await their final judgment.
 
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remember, you are a new creation in Christ and no one and nothing can remove you from God, you are His child

I don't think some of these folks actually want to know anything about others except to indoctrinate them in unbiblical nonsense

they are basically trolling at this point IMO

why don't you sign off and just trust Jesus and get a good night's sleep

God bless you Blain
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infinite does not believe we are a new creation in Christ. he xed the post wherein I referenced that and does not want to really show what he believes

which god are you telling us about? here people are trying to convince you of forgiveness of sin and now you are admitting you do not agree with Christ's work on our behalf

is it time people report that you are not really representing Christianity instead of responding to your lack of faith?
 
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Runningman said:
That makes sense if Paul has no weaknesses, which he does and admits to elsewhere like Romans 7. When Paul says he has "infirmities" it means moral weaknesses. It's used in a similar way in Hebrews 4:15 which clears up the way the word "infirmities" can be used contextually in regards to temptation and sin.

Hebrews 4:15 KJV
15For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
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Of course Paul had weaknesses . I do not think that he was talking about his moral weaknesses in the context he spoke about the thorn in his flesh rather his sufferings as he also brought up in Colossians 1:24

Infirmities does not have same meaning wherever it appears in the scripture. Its meaning depends on the context. This I believe.
 
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infinitekhanol said:
God has made the remedy and says you can now overcome sin and you are
saying it is impossible for you to overcome sin. Who is in the wrong here?
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Everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
But you still remain his son biologically. And children of God remain children of God through the New Birth. And God does not "disinherit" His children. Rather He chastises them.
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Chastisement is punishment for our bad behaviour. The essence is for us to repent and come back to the light. Where we fail to repent and continue in the state of sin, he deals with us a sinner. there is no two ways about it.

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infinitekhanol said:
Chastisement is punishment for our bad behaviour. The essence is for us to repent and come back to the light. Where we fail to repent and continue in the state of sin, he deals with us a sinner. there is no two ways about it.

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I must point out that there is another kind of chastisement meant to prove us as sons. This is different from that which results from sin.
 
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SophieT said:
go peel bananas and make ice cream with them

it's pretty good from the freezer

I think you are truth intolerant and more than a bit nasty
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Where do I get the banana please?. I need a big bunch.
 
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Overcome said:
John 8:34-36​
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.​
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.​
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.​


To repeat sin is to ask GOD to be out of your life. How is GOD to know you at Judgment if you kept on turning from Him? There is no Scripture to support your repeated sin.

If your abiding in CHRIST didn't cost you anything in your life, then you didn't attempt to form to Him (Obey). Your sinner's prayers for repeat sin didn't do anything for your relationship with Him.

1 John 2:6​
He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.​


The luke-warm are not connected to GOD because sin separates you from Him. You wouldn't be doing repeat sins if you were covered in His Blood.

Romans 8:38-39​
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,​
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.​

When the blood was on houses for Passover, did GOD put that blood on their homes or did they have to put it on themselves??? You are not automatically covered in His Blood.
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Omg, Romans 5:20 where sin abounds, Grace abounds much more! Of course there are repeat offenders in here! That includes me! God looks at that heart! 1 John 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
Proverbs 24:16
for though the righteous fall seven times, they rise again, but the wicked stumble when calamity strikes.
We that believe in Christ are a bunch of sinners all the days of our lives. This flesh waged war with the spirit. We are being sanctified until we go home to be with the Lord. Let me know if you don’t know what that means?
I’m not trying to be rude, but people have real struggles there trying to work on in there lives. God is Faithful 1 John 1 :9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Lukewarm is the people who are riding the fence on there believing in Jesus. Do you think after you become a Christian you stop Sinning? You don’t. Yes we can walk in the spirit and not in the flesh. There are daily battles.
 
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Omg, Romans 5:20 where sin abounds, Grace abounds much more! Of course there are repeat offenders in here! That includes me! God looks at that heart! 1 John 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
Proverbs 24:16
for though the righteous fall seven times, they rise again, but the wicked stumble when calamity strikes.
We that believe in Christ are a bunch of sinners all the days of our lives. This flesh waged war with the spirit. We are being sanctified until we go home to be with the Lord. Let me know if you don’t know what that means?
I’m not trying to be rude, but people have real struggles there trying to work on in there lives. God is Faithful 1 John 1 :9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Lukewarm is the people who are riding the fence on there believing in Jesus. Do you think after you become a Christian you stop Sinning? You don’t. Yes we can walk in the spirit and not in the flesh. There are daily battles.
 
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