2Samuel 17 -- A fool and his money are soon parted

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ZNP

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1 Ahithophel said to Absalom, “I would[a] choose twelve thousand men and set out tonight in pursuit of David. 2 I would attack him while he is weary and weak. I would strike him with terror, and then all the people with him will flee. I would strike down only the king 3 and bring all the people back to you. The death of the man you seek will mean the return of all; all the people will be unharmed.” 4 This plan seemed good to Absalom and to all the elders of Israel.

5 But Absalom said, “Summon also Hushai the Arkite, so we can hear what he has to say as well.” 6 When Hushai came to him, Absalom said, “Ahithophel has given this advice. Should we do what he says? If not, give us your opinion.”

7 Hushai replied to Absalom, “The advice Ahithophel has given is not good this time. 8 You know your father and his men; they are fighters, and as fierce as a wild bear robbed of her cubs. Besides, your father is an experienced fighter; he will not spend the night with the troops. 9 Even now, he is hidden in a cave or some other place. If he should attack your troops first,[b] whoever hears about it will say, ‘There has been a slaughter among the troops who follow Absalom.’ 10 Then even the bravest soldier, whose heart is like the heart of a lion, will melt with fear, for all Israel knows that your father is a fighter and that those with him are brave.

11 “So I advise you: Let all Israel, from Dan to Beersheba—as numerous as the sand on the seashore—be gathered to you, with you yourself leading them into battle. 12 Then we will attack him wherever he may be found, and we will fall on him as dew settles on the ground. Neither he nor any of his men will be left alive. 13 If he withdraws into a city, then all Israel will bring ropes to that city, and we will drag it down to the valley until not so much as a pebble is left.”

14 Absalom and all the men of Israel said, “The advice of Hushai the Arkite is better than that of Ahithophel.” For the Lord had determined to frustrate the good advice of Ahithophel in order to bring disaster on Absalom.


Why did they think Hushai’s advice was good? It is because they are cowards. David is on the run, there is confusion, they don’t have a chance to get themselves set. You look at any great fighter when they have their opponent on the ropes they finish them. Absalom is not a great fighter. When you are a pretender to the crown what you want is insurmountable odds, you want “all the men of Israel”. Also when you are a coward you will gladly receive absurd advice as long as it tells you that you don’t have to fight. “They will bring ropes and drag a city down to the valley”? Seriously? We figured out what kind of person Absalom was when he killed Amnon, didn’t do it himself, had his soldiers murder him for him.

15 Hushai told Zadok and Abiathar, the priests, “Ahithophel has advised Absalom and the elders of Israel to do such and such, but I have advised them to do so and so. 16 Now send a message at once and tell David, ‘Do not spend the night at the fords in the wilderness; cross over without fail, or the king and all the people with him will be swallowed up.’”

17 Jonathan and Ahimaaz were staying at En Rogel. A female servant was to go and inform them, and they were to go and tell King David, for they could not risk being seen entering the city. 18 But a young man saw them and told Absalom. So the two of them left at once and went to the house of a man in Bahurim. He had a well in his courtyard, and they climbed down into it. 19 His wife took a covering and spread it out over the opening of the well and scattered grain over it. No one knew anything about it.

20 When Absalom’s men came to the woman at the house, they asked, “Where are Ahimaaz and Jonathan?”

The woman answered them, “They crossed over the brook.”[c] The men searched but found no one, so they returned to Jerusalem.

21 After they had gone, the two climbed out of the well and went to inform King David. They said to him, “Set out and cross the river at once; Ahithophel has advised such and such against you.” 22 So David and all the people with him set out and crossed the Jordan. By daybreak, no one was left who had not crossed the Jordan.


Again, we see how crucial are these ones who are getting the plans of the enemy out. This is like “Q” who is thought to be sharing the plans of the deep state to destroy Trump and his followers. Anyone who has studied the history of war knows that this is not some “tin foil hat” conspiracy theory to think there are spies within the camp. Not only so but whenever you do study the spies like those that helped Washington, you discover that women played a key role. There might have been women who despised David because he was an adulterer, just like many despise Trump. But do you think that what Absalom did on the roof of the palace is going to win them over to him? Three women accused Biden of sexual harassment and there is evidence of these cases that has been hidden. Whatever happened to the #MeToo movement? With Kavanaugh they were up in arms that you have to listen to one woman giving an account that is over 20 years old, without any corroborating evidence like the address or the date. But with Biden they are silent when there are three witnesses. People absolutely vilified one conspiracy theory that claimed there was some secret pedophile ring that supported Clinton. The main mouthpiece of these attacks was the “Lincoln Project” which has since been exposed as having been founded by pedophiles. A ring of people trafficking in children for pedophiles was just recently busted, a lawyer for them committed suicide, and we have evidence that both Clinton and one of the Supreme court justices visited Epstein’s pedophile island. Meanwhile one of the first things that Biden does is to shut down “Operation Talon” which is investigating and prosecuting these pedophile rings.

23 When Ahithophel saw that his advice had not been followed, he saddled his donkey and set out for his house in his hometown. He put his house in order and then hanged himself. So he died and was buried in his father’s tomb.

This whole idea that inquiring of Ahithophel is like inquiring of God is stupid. Look at what a fool he was. Yes, his advice was the right approach and might have won the war and secured the kingdom with Absalom. But he was clueless about what a coward and fraud Absalom was. This reminds me of Bill Belechik. For years he could do no wrong, called a “genius”. Great coach. Then he forced Brady to leave and felt he could still have success with Cam Newton. If you are not familiar with football Cam Newton is everything you look for in a quarterback. Great arm, very big and powerful like a fullback. He can run, he can throw, and he is really hard to tackle. It is hard to see why Brady is so great but it is easy to see that Cam is great. So Brady leaves and Belechik gets Cam Newton. Also Cam is 12 years younger than Brady. Everyone assumes you plug Cam Newton into Belechik’s team and they will do better than they did the previous year which means playoffs and maybe even more Super bowls. Meanwhile Brady goes to Tampa which is an average team at best. They also had a very highly touted quarterback who had been drafted in the first round so it didn’t seem like switching quarterbacks would make that big a difference. Tampa wins the super bowl and Belechik’s team is worse than the year before. One analyst summed it up beautifully, this year does not harm Belechik’s legacy as a defensive coordinator, but as a GM, as someone who can spot talent it destroys his legacy. Ahithophel forgot he needed someone who could execute his plan. Now we know that what really made Ahithophel look like a genius was David. Usually they have these big debates “Lebron or Jordan”, but in the case of David, just like the case of Brady there is no debate.
 

ZNP

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We are also seeing this same thing with Trump. They should have struck immediately after the inauguration. Forget the stupid “impeachment” hearings but rather seize Trump and throw him into the brig. This is the plan that all dictators around the world have used. You put Trump and ten of his closest associates in prison and it would be over. Instead someone convinced them that impeaching Trump would be a better way to win over the country. That backfired in a big way. They were exposed as liars and cheats and Trump’s popularity went up, not down. President’s day was a real eye opener as the streets were filled with people waving Trump flags while Biden hid at Camp David playing video games with his granddaughter. Since that day it has been very clear to everyone who is watching that this is over. Biden’s dementia can not be hidden, and day after day the scandals are being leaked of “the Lincoln Project”, the FBI, Cuomo, Newsom, etc. New York and California were the two Democratic strongholds and they are both about to fall. You are not going to get the majority of Americans supporting the “Equality Act” anyone with a brain would understand that. Over 50% of Americans are against paying for abortions with tax dollars (https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/27/poll-most-americans-oppose-using-tax-dollars-to-fund-abortions/). Then on top of that there were many nominal Christians who voted for Biden who will not accept this law. Setting up the tent on top of the palace was not meant to “win hearts and minds” it was to send a message that “we don’t play”. That was the point of the Equality Act, "we don't play, you will do as we say or we will burn you to the ground". The impeachment strategy was to win hearts and minds but it failed because those who have been deceiving others for the last four years were themselves deceived. They were clueless that they had been speaking lies for the last four years and they were clueless about how easy it was going to be to expose those lies. The only person not clueless was Ahithophel, he knew they were speaking lies, so he knew once they chose that strategy they would lose. Just another reason I despise him. His wisdom was based on lies, not truth.

24 David went to Mahanaim, and Absalom crossed the Jordan with all the men of Israel. 25 Absalom had appointed Amasa over the army in place of Joab. Amasa was the son of Jether,[d] an Ishmaelite[e] who had married Abigail,[f] the daughter of Nahash and sister of Zeruiah the mother of Joab. 26 The Israelites and Absalom camped in the land of Gilead.

An Ishmaelite, really? This situation we are seeing right now in the US is clearly cultural. They are going after the church, after Christians, and after our first and second amendments. You may not be so concerned about the second amendment but as some put it, you can’t take away the first amendment without taking away the second amendment first.

27 When David came to Mahanaim, Shobi son of Nahash from Rabbah of the Ammonites, and Makir son of Ammiel from Lo Debar, and Barzillai the Gileadite from Rogelim 28 brought bedding and bowls and articles of pottery. They also brought wheat and barley, flour and roasted grain, beans and lentils,[g] 29 honey and curds, sheep, and cheese from cows’ milk for David and his people to eat. For they said, “The people have become exhausted and hungry and thirsty in the wilderness.”

This is what we see at CPAC. The people who have been standing for justice concerning election fraud have become hungry and thirsty and exhausted. To be able to have this huge gathering where they can all get together and feast and fellowship with one another is restorative. It is also a harbinger that Biden has lost. His power and authority is based on getting legislators to vote with him. Recent polls show that following Biden’s lead will be political suicide. Meanwhile CPAC shows that Trump is the leader of the Republican party and their influence is growing and getting stronger. They know that if Newsom, the governor of California and a person who had 65% approval rating in September can be recalled they all can be recalled. They know that if Cuomo, the darling of the Democratic party with his emmy can be impeached and prosecuted they all can. Meanwhile the truth is coming out that Pelosi and the Democrats allied themselves with Antifa. That is like a king of Israel allying himself with Ishmaelites.