Christ draws ALL men unto Him

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Cee

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I am still waiting on you to explain how God was found by those who didn't seek for Him.
Great question.

Here's your answer:

John 12:31Now is the judgment of this world; now will the ruler of this world be cast out.32And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”

When Jesus came He made it possible to seek God. Why? Because no man can come to the Father, but through Him. There was no way to seek God without Christ.

Now I'll address your "none seek after God" Scripture further using the actual context.

Let's go to Romans 3...

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What then? Are we any better? Not at all. For we have already made the charge that Jews and Greeks alike are all under sin.

Paul is about to quote an OT Scripture to validate that both Jews and Greeks - all need Jesus.

10As it is written:
“There is no one righteous,
not even one;
11There is no one who understands;
no one who seeks God.
12All have turned away;
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.

This OT Scripture is telling us none are righteousness, this is the point of not seeking God, none do good. There is only one who does good, Jesus.

We see this further in the next verse here:

19Now we know that whatever the Law says, it says to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.

"None who seek God" is the Law speaking. After Christ was lifted up He draws ALL men to Himself.

Now I'll deal with the "whole world" needs context issue.

Notice in v19 it says every mouth and the whole world is accountable to God. So we know without a shadow of the doubt "whole world" means all people. Saved and unsaved. Jew and Greek.

20Therefore no one will be justified in His sight by works of the Law. For the Law merely brings awareness of sin.

v20: None are justified by the works of the Law because it puts the focus on sin not on God. None seek after Him under the Law.

21But now, apart from the Law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, as attested by the Law and the Prophets.

Say now. This means we are moving past the Law. And we are in a new time. And in this time, the age of grace, Christ who is the righteousness of God has been revealed. This means we can now SEE HIM. We now have access to the righteousness of God in Christ.

22And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.

It's pretty clear to me, but I'll summarize v22-24 for you to look at for yourself. Taking everything IN context.

Righteousness in Christ is for ALL who believe. No distinction. None. All sinned, all fell short, all didn't seek Him, but NOW all are justified freely by HIS GRACE.

And it is this GRACE that allows us to come Him. Because Christ has made salvation available to all. No distinction. All those who believe in Him.

John 12:44
And Jesus cried out and said, Whoever believes in me, believes not in me but in him who sent me.45And whoever sees me sees him who sent me.

None sought after God under the Law, but now when we see Christ, the WAY, we see God. And grace allows us to turn to Him.

And here's my question to you:

If God says He desires none to perish and for ALL to come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9) And Scripture says He sent His Son so that the whole world wouldn't perish. (John 3:16) Why do you say that God only chooses some for eternal life? Jesus says whosoever, but I hear you saying whoever God-soevers.

 

MichaelOwen

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More people need to read this....this is Spiritual discernment at it's best right here. Excellent read!