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Hello;

Heavyweight evangelists like Billy Graham and Luis Palau usually preached
lengthy sermons during their crusades; which wasn't a bad method
considering their venues. But here on an internet forum, I think we can
better serve a world-wide public with concise messages that cut to the
chase, so to speak, viz: strive to present our material with an economy of
words.

Buen Camino
(Pleasant Journey)
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John 3:14-17 . . As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so
must the Son of Man be lifted up; that whoever believes may in him have
eternal life. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten son,
that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

The incident to which Christ referred is located at Num 21:5-9.

Long story short: Moses' people became weary of eating manna all the time
at every meal. But instead of courteously, and diplomatically, petitioning
their divine benefactor for a different diet, they became indignant and
confrontational; angrily demanding better accommodations.

In response to their insolence, and their ingratitude for His providence; God
sent a swarm of deadly poisonous vipers among them; which began striking
people; and every strike was 100% fatal, no exceptions.

After a number of people died, the rest came to their senses and begged
Moses to intercede. In reply; The Lord instructed Moses to fashion a replica
of the vipers and hoist it up on a pole in plain view so that everyone dying
from venom could look to it for relief.

The key issue here is that the replica was the only God-given remedy for the
people's bites-- not sacrifices and offerings, not tithing, not church
attendance, not scapulars, not confession, not holy days of obligation, not
the Sabbath, not rosaries, not weeping, not the golden rule, not charity, not
Bible study and/or Sunday school, not self denial, not vows of poverty, not
the Ten Commandments, nor even one's ideology of choice, i.e. it wouldn't
have mattered whether somebody was Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Buddhist,
Catholic, Protestant, Baha'i, Atheist, Agnostic, Pagan, or whatever-- the
replica was it; nothing else would suffice to save their lives.

As an allegory, the replica speaks of Christ's crucifixion for the sins of the
world as the only God-given rescue from the wrath of God; and when people
accept it, then according to John 3:14-17 and John 5:24, they qualify for a
transfer from death into life. Those who reject his crucifixion as the only
God-given rescue from the sum of all fears, are already on the docket to
face it.

John 3:18 . .Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does
not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the
name of God's one and only Son.

I recommend finding a quiet place; anywhere will do. Cover you face with
your hands for a sense of connection, and tell God you have never yet
measured up to His standards and you're pretty sure you never will. Tell Him
you would like to take advantage of His son's death; and thank Him for His
time.
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The Beatitudes per Matt 5:1-7:27 are not something to be admired; no,
they're something to be feared because according to Christ, failure to
exemplify them results in disaster.

Matt 7:26-27 . . Everyone who listens to these words of mine but does not
act on them will be like a fool who built his house on sand. The rain fell, the
floods came, and the winds blew and buffeted the house; and it collapsed
and was completely ruined.

God offered humanity His own son's life and safety to atone for their failure
to fully comply with the Beatitudes; and would appreciate an RSVP to let
Him know they want in on the benefit. Of course if folks consider themselves
pious enough to skip the cross, well more power to them, but I highly
recommend they take God up on His offer just in case their estimation
proves faulty; especially seeing as the Bible says no one yet has measured
up to His standards.

Rom 3:23 . . All have sinned; and fall short of the glory of God.
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Matt 7:26-27 . . Everyone who listens to these words of mine but does not
act on them will be like a fool who built his house on sand. The rain fell, the
floods came, and the winds blew and buffeted the house; and it collapsed
and was completely ruined.

Matthew 7:25-27
 

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It occurred to me some years ago, that even if I were to behave myself
sufficiently in this life to get into Heaven; I seriously doubted I could keep it
up forever. Sooner or later my true colors would show themselves and I'd
likely get the boot. I thought to myself: if only holiness were normal, like it
is for Jesus, instead of such an effort, then my chances would be greatly
improved.

And then one day, I ran across a passage in the prophecy of Ezekiel that
really caught my attention. It goes like this:

"For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all
countries, and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean
water upon you, and you shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all
your idols, will I cleanse you."

"A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I
will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart
of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my
statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them". (Ezek 36:24-27)

God made that promise to His people the Jews. Well; I began wondering if
maybe me, a non Jew, could somehow get in on some of that too because
its benefits are definitely very appealing to a guy whose piety, on his own,
will never amount to anything better than unsatisfactory.
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A forgiven sinner is still sinful, and they'll go right on sinning same as before
and thus needing forgiveness again and again ad infinitum.

Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?
Then may you also do good who are accustomed to do evil.

Well; in light of the passage above, it's certainly no surprise to me that
people need to upgrade the very core of their being so that they can, by
nature, be the children of Heaven in the future rather than remain the
children of Hell that they are now.

John 3:7 . . You should not be surprised at my saying you must be born
again.

We're not looking at a liturgical ritual in that verse, rather, a supernatural
action performed by the hand of God just as humanity's original creation
was an act of God. Well; I strongly urge folks to speak with God about
getting in on this particular benefit especially seeing as how it's required
rather than optional.
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The reservoir of burning sulfur depicted at Rev 20:10-15 is not only a rack
but also a gallows. The reservoir is primarily an instrument for carrying out
death sentences.

A death sentence-- although a sentence with lasting effects --isn't perpetual;
it's momentary. In other words: criminals are subjected to execution only
long enough to end their lives.

The primary reason we call the second death "eternal" is because it's
permanent; viz: according to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29 there's only one
resurrection allotted per person. Therefore nobody is coming back from the
second death because they will have used up their one resurrection to stand
and face justice at the Great White Throne event.

NOTE: People walk away alive from the fire spoken of at 1Cor 3:5-15.
Nobody walks away alive from the fire spoken of at Rev 20:10-15.
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The passage below is deliberately misquoted. Watch for the revision.

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son in order to
save the world and give everyone everlasting life."

Well; the thing is: not everyone will be spared the wrath of God via Jesus'
crucifixion because the benefit is limited to believers.

John 3:16 . . For God so loved the world that he gave His one and only
son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

John 5:24 . . I assure you, those who listen to my message and believe in
God who sent me have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their
sins, but they have already passed from death into life.

1Cor 1:21 . . He has used our foolish preaching to save all who believe.
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Rev 20:12 . . And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and
the books were opened . . . and the dead were judged out of those things
which were written in the books, according to their works.

Ideally the pages for each of us in those books will be blank; that way we'll
be free to go because there would be nothing listed therein with which to
charge us and it will appear as though we have never been anything but
100% innocent our entire lives.

Now a pardon is nice as far as it goes, but it leaves behind a record of our
wrongs; whereas as exoneration is much better because it wipes those
pages; and it's available.

Rom 4:25 . . He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to
life for our justification.

The Greek word translated "justification" in that passage means acquittal;
roughly defined as an adjudication of innocence due to lack of sufficient
evidence to convict, viz: exoneration. In other words: God closes the
believer's case and it's never reopened-- not because it's a cold case, but
because all charges against them were dropped, i.e. transferred to Christ.

Isa 53:6 . .We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to
his own way; and The Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ, reconciling the world to Himself, not
counting their trespasses against them

Rom 8:33-34 . .Who will bring any charge against those whom God has
chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns; Christ Jesus, who
died?

If you out there believe God had you in mind when Jesus went to the cross,
and are confident his crucified dead body was restored to life; then RSVP
God and let Him know you want in on this remarkable benefit because you
definitely do not want your sins following you over into the next life.
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Humanity was created in the image and likeness of God. So then, we can
safely assume that humanity came packaged with a sense of responsibility,
viz: a conscience.

But I remember what I told you;
That in time you're gonna pay.
"Funny How Time Slips Away"
Willie Nelson, Billy Walker, 1961


That song is correct about the ex girlfriend, but it neglects to take into
account the singer's responsibility.

There are folks out in the world who've never once heard and/or been taught
a single thing about the laws of God, but that doesn't let them off the hook
because no matter how faulty nor how reliable their sense of responsibility
might be, they will be held accountable for how much, and/or how little,
they let their conscience be their guide.

Rom 2:14-16 . . Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by
nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even
though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of
the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness,
and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) This will take
place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as
my gospel declares.

Now although retribution for uninformed folks will be lighter than those who
know better, they will still have to undergo some penalties.

Luke 12:47-48 . .That servant who knows his master's will and does not
get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many
blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving
punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been
given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been
entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

Anyway, point being: we needn't fret that uninformed folks throughout the
world won't get a fair shake.
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"For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all
countries, and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean
water upon you, and you shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all
your idols, will I cleanse you."

"A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I
will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart
of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my
statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them". (Ezek 36:24-27)

Ezekiel 36:25-26
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POSIT: I'm special; God understands me. Although He probably may not let
others off; I'm sure God will make an exception for me because I'm not like
other people; I'm different.

REPLY: Unfortunately, the Bible's God can't do that. If He were to make
exceptions, God would be neither equitable, nor honest-- and worse, it
would go against His grain, compromise His integrity, sin against His
conscience; and cause Him to lose the world's respect.

No, God doesn't grade on a curve: everyone is treated equally in God's
courtroom. In a system of divine absolutes; there is neither a curve nor an
exception: nobody gets any favors, nobody is special, and nobody is a
protected species.

Deut 10:17 . . Jehovah shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

Acts 10:34 . .Then Peter began to speak: I now realize how true it is that
God is impartial.

Rom 2:5-11 . . For there is coming a day of judgment when God, the just
judge of all the world, will judge all people according to what they have
done. He will give eternal life to those who persist in doing what is good,
seeking after the glory and honor and immortality that God offers.

. . . But he will pour out his anger and wrath on those who live for
themselves, who refuse to obey the truth; and practice evil deeds. There will
be anguish and calamity for everyone who practices evil-- for the Jew first
and also for the Gentile. But there will be glory and honor and peace from
God for all practice good --for the Jew first and also for the Gentile. For God
does not show favoritism.
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The code of God requires eye for eye, tooth for tooth, burning for burning,
hand for hand, foot for foot, wound for wound, and stripe for stripe.

Where does that leave people like Ted Kaczynski who killed and/or maimed
26 people with homemade bombs; or Stephen Paddock who indiscriminately
sprayed a music concert in Las Vegas with a rifle equipped with a bump
stock resulting in 471 dead and/or wounded; and the numerous serial killers
that are in and out of the news from time to time? How are those murderers
supposed to balance the scales of justice for all the illegal deaths they've
caused?

Well; the fact of the matter is: they can't balance the scales because they
simply don't have enough lives of their own with which to atone for their
victims' lives.

This makes me suspect that suffering in the afterlife isn't uniform, i.e.
there's one Hell, but its circumstances may be something akin to the nine
levels of Inferno in Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy. Wouldn't that be
something?
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Rom 6:23 . .The wages of sin is death

That rule is very serious because, at most, people have only two lives to
forfeit for sin-- the life they have now, and the one they'll have later at their
resurrection; but unfortunately, their current life has already been forfeited
due to Adam's disobedience in the garden of Eden so they can't use this life
to atone for any of their own disobedience.

And when they're resurrected to stand trial at the Great White Throne event
depicted at Rev 20:11-15; that'll be their last life because according to Dan
12:2 and John 5:28-29 there's only one resurrection allotted per person.

That's at least one of the reasons why no one is coming back from the
second death depicted at Rev 20:11-15
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FAQ: What might Hell's culture be like?

REPLY: Seeing as how nobody down there has any more reason to be civil,
then I think new arrivals can expect to be ill treated in that world.

Also, folks down there are deprived of the regeneration spoken of per John
3:3-8 so they are there as they were here. Well; human nature tends to
deteriorate, sort of like the decay experienced by road kill and spoiled fruits
and vegetables. I'd expect that the lost get badder and badder and badder
as time goes on so that even a saint like Mother Teresa would eventually
become so evil that her conduct in Hell would be disturbing to behold.

And then; according to Matt 7:21-23, not everyone talking the talk will make
the cut.

Well; I would not want to be one of them because they will surely be
mocked cruelly and without mercy by some of the netherworld's unruly
crowd. I can just hear their giggling and their taunts:

Hey Christian! How's about sharing the gospel with us ay? Tell us about the
love of God and how that's working for ya. Awwwww-Haw-Haw-Haw-
Hawwwwwwwww!

I'd rather end up in Hell as a Bernie Madoff than a failed Christian because
ol' ponzi schemer Bernie is sure to be given far more respect down there
than a bible thumper.
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Ps 115:17-18 . .The dead do not praise The Lord, nor do any who go down
into silence.

The first "dead" in that verse are not yet deceased but might just as well be
seeing as how their attitude towards God lacks reverence.

"any who go down into silence" are the dead who've passed on. Well; they're
no different down below than when up here on the surface, i.e. they're still
irreverent.

The wrong side of the netherworld is likely pretty noisy, but communication
with God is impossible. The Bible says to call upon God while He is near.
Well, there comes a time for the dead when God is too distant, i.e. He's
permanently estranged. That's a kind of silence that no one should take
lightly.
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I think most folks would agree that monsters like Kim Jong-Un, Xi Jinping,
Robert Mugabe, Muammar Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, human traffickers, and
drug cartel kingpins belong in Hell; but why are decent folk down there?

Well; obviously humanity's moral compass points to a different north than
their maker's, viz: sometimes what's tolerable in human reasoning is
unacceptable to God. Why is that?

In the beginning; humanity was created with a conscience patterned after its
maker's conscience.

"And God said: Let us make man in our image, after our likeness . . So God
created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male
and female created he them." (Gen 1:26-27)

Then came the forbidden fruit incident, wherein humanity's conscience lost
its innocence and became humanistic.

Then the Lord God said: Behold, the man has become like one of us,
knowing good and evil. (Gen 3:22)

In other words; Man became a tin God conducting himself in accord with his
own moral values.

* There's a humorous scene in Dante's Inferno where these two guys who
knew each other in life are quarreling over who deserves Hell more than the
other; which is pretty silly when it's considered that both were condemned
to the same level down there. For example: a number of elitist Christians are
far more tolerable of dishonesty than they are of LGBTQ yet both the liar
and the deviant are on track for the very same fate. (Rev 21:8)

I suspect that quite a few folks sincerely believe God has made a big mistake
sending them down there. In their judicious estimation; others deserve it for
sure, but not themselves.
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Eph 2:2-3 . . As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in
which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the
ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who
are disobedient. All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the
cravings of our sinful nature and following its desires and thoughts. Like the
rest, we were by nature objects of wrath.

It's believed by a pretty large percentage of modern Christians that the
sinful nature spoken of in that Ephesians passage is propagated by men.
Oh? From whence did Eve get it?

She was already alive and fully constructed with material taken from Adam's
body prior to the forbidden fruit incident. Since himself tasted the fruit after
his wife was already in existence; then it was impossible for Adam to pass
the fallen nature to her via reproduction.

In the past, I was sure that the chemistry of the forbidden fruit had
something to do with the first couple's altered moral perception; but now I
seriously doubt it because Eve was the first to eat the fruit, and when she
did, nothing happened. She remained just as shameless in the buff as
before. It wasn't till Adam tasted the fruit that she began to feel exposed; so
I'm pretty sure that the underlying cause is far more serious than the
chemistry of that fruit.

If Eve's fallen condition wasn't due to the fruit, nor due to Adam's body,
then what? Well; obviously the Serpent did it to them, a.k.a. the Devil (Rev
20:2)

The ruler of the kingdom of the air-- i.e. the spirit world --has the power of
death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the human body and the
human mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke 13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and
Eph 2:2.

The Serpent was apparently all set and ready to wield his power the moment
that Adam crossed the line and ate that fruit. It amazes me how quickly it
takes effect. Not long after Adam tasted the fruit, he and his wife both
immediately set to work cobbling together some rudimentary aprons to
cover up their pelvic areas.

This power of death allowed the Devil is apparently an absolute that could
only be overturned by Christ's crucifixion.

John 12:31-33 . . Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this
world shall be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all
men to myself.

Heb 2:14 . . Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their
humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of
death; that is: the Devil.

That is at least one good reason why folks need to RSVP God about His son's
crucifixion to avoid leaving this life under the Devil's supervision. They've got
to get that arrangement dissolved now, while an opportunity for liberty is on
the table.
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Consider a Jewish man. He's undergone circumcision the eighth day as
required, and successfully completed Bar Mitzvah. From that point on he is
obligated to comply with the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with
God on oath per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

Now supposing that same Jewish man begins to have second thoughts about
the covenant and thinks maybe he would like to try something else. Well; he
is not at liberty to just up and walk away from the covenant; no, not when
he is very likely indebted to it via one or more of the curses listed at Lev
26:14 39, Deut 27:15-26, and Deut 28:15-68. Those curses have to be
satisfied first before he can even surmise himself free to transfer his
affections to another religion. However; if that man would like; Christ can do
it all for him.

Isa 53:6 . .We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to
his own way; and The Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Gal 3:13 . . . Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a
curse for us, for it is written: Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.
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The disturbing scene depicted at Rev 20:11-15 will be presided over by none
other than the sweet little babe away in a manger.

John 5:21-23 . . Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all
judgment to the Son

Acts 17:31 . . He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice
by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by
raising him from the dead.

Misogyny was given quite a bit of negative press during former US President
Trump's administration; while misandry was condoned as if acceptable. But
malice is unacceptable with God on any level; and I think we have to accept
the possibility that there are just as many, if not more, man haters on the
wrong side of the netherworld as there are woman haters.

Rom 2:9-11. .There will be trouble and distress for every human being
who does evil: For God does not show favoritism.

Women are not a protected species with God; nor is their gender a
mitigating factor. They will be judged solely on the basis of their lives just
the same as men.

Rev 20:12-15 . . I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the
throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the
book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as
recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death
and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged
according to what he had done. . . And whosoever's name was not found
written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

* I would really hate to be a woman infected with militant misandry because
in the end, it will be a "toxic male" that casts angry women into the lake of
fire and permanently ruining any chances they might have had for happiness
in the future. For all eternity, condemned man haters will grind their teeth
with hot tears and white knuckled fury that they ultimately lost out on
everything because of a man's supremacy in the grand scheme of things.
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