Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Mark 6:45-56 We need Jesus in the boat

45 Immediately Jesus made his disciples get into the boat and go on ahead of him to Bethsaida, while he dismissed the crowd. 46 After leaving them, he went up on a mountainside to pray.

47 Later that night, the boat was in the middle of the lake, and he was alone on land. 48 He saw the disciples straining at the oars, because the wind was against them. Shortly before dawn he went out to them, walking on the lake. He was about to pass by them, 49 but when they saw him walking on the lake, they thought he was a ghost. They cried out, 50 because they all saw him and were terrified.

Immediately he spoke to them and said, “Take courage! It is I. Don’t be afraid.” 51 Then he climbed into the boat with them, and the wind died down. They were completely amazed, 52 for they had not understood about the loaves; their hearts were hardened.

53 When they had crossed over, they landed at Gennesaret and anchored there. 54 As soon as they got out of the boat, people recognized Jesus. 55 They ran throughout that whole region and carried the sick on mats to wherever they heard he was. 56 And wherever he went—into villages, towns or countryside—they placed the sick in the marketplaces. They begged him to let them touch even the edge of his cloak, and all who touched it were healed.

Right now I see the many people straining in the boat trying to row across the lake. They are trying to get audits in all 50 states, yet the wind is against them. They are trying to find out the truth about the vaccine but the wind is against them. They are railing against the border crisis but the wind is against them. What you need is Jesus in the boat. If all you have is a podcast, or a radio show, or a news agency that is exposing corruption you won’t get to the other side. What you need is for 60% of the country to rise up as one man to throw the bums out. That is not going to happen when you are talking about republicans and democrats, Trump versus the swamp, or governors versus the federal government. If you want 60% of the country to stand up, salute, and march in formation you need Jesus in the boat.
 

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Mark 6:30-44 Jesus Feeds the Five Thousand

This account is completely different from Luke. In Luke after John the Baptist is beheaded we learn of Jesus genealogy going all the way back to Adam and then we see Jesus fasting and then being tested in the wilderness. Here Jesus is already in His ministry, He has already sent out apostles, and after John being beheaded He feeds five thousand. Quite different from fasting for forty days prior to beginning His ministry.

Let’s be real, there are two different accounts of John the Baptist. He came before the Lord’s ministry to pave the way and he is also “Elijah who is to come” at the end of the age. Luke is written to those who have carefully researched the account from the beginning from those who have handed it down to us. These believers were looking at John the Baptist who came prior to the Lord’s ministry. Mark is written to the sleeping church that wakes up after the rapture. From the minute they wake up John the Baptist is already there preaching. There will be two witnesses during the tribulation and they will be preaching a gospel of repentance to those who were left behind. They will fully expose the corruption of the Antichrist and the False prophet and this will conclude with them being killed and the whole world seeing their death as a cause of celebration and a time to give gifts, like Christmas. But then they are resurrected for all to see and caught up the Lord. That will “feed the five thousand”.

30 The apostles gathered around Jesus and reported to him all they had done and taught. 31 Then, because so many people were coming and going that they did not even have a chance to eat, he said to them, “Come with me by yourselves to a quiet place and get some rest.” 32 So they went away by themselves in a boat to a solitary place. 33 But many who saw them leaving recognized them and ran on foot from all the towns and got there ahead of them. 34 When Jesus landed and saw a large crowd, he had compassion on them, because they were like sheep without a shepherd. So he began teaching them many things.

Imagine the situation after the world has seen those two witnesses resurrected and go into heaven. They will be running on foot to find Jesus and His apostles. That is how you pave the way for Jesus!

35 By this time it was late in the day, so his disciples came to him. “This is a remote place,” they said, “and it’s already very late. 36 Send the people away so that they can go to the surrounding countryside and villages and buy themselves something to eat.”

It will be very “late in the day” when these two witnesses are killed.

37 But he answered, “You give them something to eat.”

The Lord is training us to be His servants. There is no judgement, only forgiveness. They repented for having been asleep, but now they are awake, they are speaking the word, they are with Jesus, and they are now the ones equipped to feed the five thousand.

They said to him, “That would take more than half a year’s wages! Are we to go and spend that much on bread and give it to them to eat?”

38 “How many loaves do you have?” he asked. “Go and see.” When they found out, they said, “Five—and two fish.”

This is how we all are when the Lord wants us to stretch our faith. It sounds impossible, ridiculous, but notice they went and found out. This shows they know the Lord well enough to do what He says even if it sounds absurd.

39 Then Jesus directed them to have all the people sit down in groups on the green grass. 40 So they sat down in groups of hundreds and fifties. 41 Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to his disciples to distribute to the people. He also divided the two fish among them all. 42 They all ate and were satisfied, 43 and the disciples picked up twelve basketfuls of broken pieces of bread and fish. 44 The number of the men who had eaten was five thousand.

This is how you teach. Present the problem, ask for solutions to get the students in the proper mindset, then model for them so they can learn from you.

The point I am making is equally clear. About once a month I get this same lame argument. I have already responded to it. I am not a yo yo, I have already responded on this blog on this. I am not interested in having to focus on this every month. If you can point to a specific post that you are taking issue with I will respond to that.
Bye Bye.
 

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THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST
https://www.moodybible.org/beliefs/positional-statements/second-coming/

We believe in the second coming of Christ. His return from heaven will be personal, visible and glorious, a blessed hope for which we should constantly watch and pray.1

Before He establishes His kingdom on earth, Jesus will come for His Church, an event commonly referred to as the "Rapture." At that time the dead in Christ will be raised and living Christians will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air and be with Him forever.2 In this resurrection, those who have died in Christ will have their redeemed souls and spirits united with a body similar to Christ's glorified body. Christians living at the time of this event will not die, but will be changed to be like Christ.3 This expectation is a motivation for holy living, as well as a source of comfort.4 No man knows the day or the hour when this will take place.5

After the Rapture of the Church, Christians will be brought before the judgment seat of Christ. He will reward them on the basis of the works they have accomplished.6 This is not a judgment to determine their salvation but a reward for labor on Christ's behalf.7 The Rapture will also inaugurate a period that the Bible characterizes as the "great day of His wrath," "the great tribulation" and the "time of Jacob's trouble."8 This time of unprecedented difficulty will affect Israel and all nations. Its purpose will be to prepare Israel for her Messiah.9

At the end of the Tribulation, Jesus Christ will return with the hosts of heaven as well as the Church to establish the Messianic Kingdom on earth.10 His Kingdom will last for a thousand years.11 At this Second Coming, the Antichrist will be cast into the Lake of Fire and Satan will be bound for a thousand years. 12 The nations and their representatives will be judged.13 Israel will be restored to her land, never more to be removed.14 Christ will reign with firmness and equity.15 His kingdom will be marked by material and spiritual blessing, since the curse upon the earth will be removed.16

The Messianic kingdom will close with apostasy and rebellion.17 God will crush this uprising in the last battle of the ages and Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire.18 All those who rejected the Word of God will be resurrected.19 They will be judged by Christ and cast into the lake of fire, the place where they will suffer final and everlasting punishment.20

After this judgment there will be a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness is the norm.21 There will be a new Jerusalem and the everlasting presence of God among all the redeemed.22

1 Zechariah 14:4; Acts 1:11; Titus 2:13; Revelation 1:7

2 1 Corinthians 15:51–54; 1 Thessalonians 4:14

3 1 John 3:2

4 1 John 2:28; 1 Thessalonians 4:18

5 Matt. 24:36; John 6:39

6 Romans 14:10–12; 2 Corinthians 5:10

7 1 Corinthians 3:9–15

8 Revelation 6:17; 7:14; Jeremiah 30:7

9 Zechariah 12:2, 3; 14:1–3

10 Revelation 19:7–9, 14; 1 Thessalonians 3:13; Zechariah 14:9; Revelation 19:15, 16

11 Revelation 20:2, 4–6

12 Revelation 19:20; 20:1–3

13 Joel 3; Matthew 25

14 Amos 9:15; Ezekiel 34:28

15 Psalm 2:9; Isaiah 11:4

16 Romans 8:19-21

17 Revelation 20:7–9

18 Revelation 20:10

19 Revelation 20:11–13

20 Revelation 20:14, 15; Mark 9:48

21 2 Peter 3:13

22 Revelation 21:2, 3; 2:3–5
 

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The Whole world lies in the Evil one

1John 5:19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

There are those who claim that the vaccine is an evil plot, that the world leaders are lying to us and want to kill us and that the entire shut down was really a plandemic created in a bioweapons lab and the goal was to get everyone "vaccinated". Then there are those who claim they are total nut job tin foil hat conspiracy theorists. They are more than happy to comply with a two week shut down "to flatten the curve" even though that shut down has been going on for 22 months. They gladly put a mask on even though it has no effect at stopping the spread of a virus. They shut down schools and small businesses even though they are all going bankrupt and it is devastating to kids.

My feeling is either you can believe the Lord Jesus and the apostles when they tell you the whole world lies in the evil one and that he is a liar and a murderer, or you can believe those who say that is a "tin foil hat conspiracy theory". But don't blame the Lord and the apostles because they warned you.
 

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Proverbs 21:1-16 -- Prayers for 2022

1 The king’s heart is in the hand of Jehovah as the watercourses: He turneth it whithersoever he will.

Lord the hearts of these representatives are in your hands, just like running water. We pray that you would direct them to perform justice.

2 Every way of a man is right in his own eyes; But Jehovah weigheth the hearts.

Lord, even those who committed fraud to steal the election think they are right. Lord we pray you would weigh the hearts.

3 To do righteousness and justice Is more acceptable to Jehovah than sacrifice.

Lord open our eyes to see that Christians standing for righteousness is acceptable in your eyes.

4 A high look, and a proud heart, Even the lamp of the wicked, is sin.

Lord convict the arrogant ones who think that 75 million Americans who voted for Trump are “morons” or “chumps” or “deplorables”. Open our eyes to appreciate our neighbor. Lord thank you that there are people standing for righteousness and justice for my sake, even if I don’t appreciate them.

5 The thoughts of the diligent tend only to plenteousness; But every one that is hasty hasteth only to want.

Lord open our eyes to see your word is full of light, full of life, full of blessing.

6 The getting of treasures by a lying tongue Is a vapor driven to and fro by them that seek death.

Lord this election fraud is a vapor, we pray you would breathe on it.

7 The violence of the wicked shall sweep them away, Because they refuse to do justice.

Lord we have prayed for them to repent, we have prayed that they would do justice, they have refused. They have refused to comply with court mandated audits. We pray that you would sweep them away.

8 The way of him that is laden with guilt is exceeding crooked; But as for the pure, his work is right.

Lord, what we have seen is exceedingly crooked. Hillary’s emails were concerning selling uranium to Russia. She was using a private server so that it would not become a public record and yet she was coded into Obama’s blackberry so He also knew what she was doing and approved it. That is crooked, but then it gets exceedingly crooked. Once her emails were discovered she feared Trump would reveal them so she concocted the Pee Pee hoax so that if he released emails between her and others concerning the sale to Russia she could claim he was colluding with Russia. Lord I thank you that it will be your job to judge.

9 It is better to dwell in the corner of the housetop, Than with a contentious woman in a wide house.

These last four years we have seen what it is like to be the President in a wide house but having to abide with a contentious woman. Lord, this punishment has been on the whole country to have to listen to this day by day.

10 The soul of the wicked desireth evil: His neighbor findeth no favor in his eyes. Lord we have seen this.

People who are against capitalism are not against the corporate giants like Amazon.com or Google, no they are smashing windows of the pizzeria and cleaners. The people who are against the malfeasance of law enforcement are not against the FBI and those who tap your phone but they are against the little policeman in your neighborhood trying to keep you safe. They are attacking their neighbor, they desire evil, Lord weigh their hearts.

11 When the scoffer is punished, the simple is made wise; And when the wise is instructed, he receiveth knowledge. 12 The righteous man considereth the house of the wicked, How the wicked are overthrown to their ruin.

Every contact leaves a trace. Yes, Pelosi was speaker of the house, one of the most powerful women in America but now the spotlight is on her for appointing Swalwell to the intelligence committee. Yes, Biden got millions from China and profited greatly but the day comes when the entire world sees your sins and shame. He may have considered himself “the big guy” but he will become the focus of derision and scorn.

13 Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, He also shall cry, but shall not be heard.

Lord what are they doing with this shutdown? How are they playing politics with the stimulus money? The poor are crying, they have shut their ears, so Lord I pray that you also would not hear their cry.

14 A gift in secret pacifieth anger; And a present in the bosom, strong wrath.

I have heard numerous calls for the insurrection act and for martial law, and that is just today. There is strong wrath in this country, not to just “primary” those who are not acting but to recall them. Lord open the eyes to the strong wrath or else we will have a civil war.

15 It is joy to the righteous to do justice; But it is a destruction to the workers of iniquity.


There are so many standing for righteousness. Courage is contagious. But it is also a joy and a comfort within to know you are right with the Lord.

16 The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding Shall rest in the assembly of the dead.

This is a very dangerous time, Lord keep us in You, keep us in the way, keep us in the word.
 

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Healing prayer

9 Which is easier, to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins are forgiven; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? 10 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath authority on earth to forgive sins (he saith to the sick of the palsy), 11 I say unto thee, Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thy house. 12 And he arose, and straightway took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.

When we pray we pray that God's will would be done. God's will is that we would preach the gospel, that we would be witnesses of Jesus Christ, the savior of the world. God's will is that we would tell people their sins have been forgiven. Some may dispute that, some may argue that Jesus is not God, or that His blood does not save us. In that case it is God's will that by healing someone they might know that the Lord has authority to forgive sins.

This is a key concept. My father was on his deathbed from cancer, the doctors said they expected him to die that night however he was desperate to get a little more time because he had not prepared his will. I prayed for him that night and the next morning he was in great spirits, joyful, quite happy and called a lawyer to the hospital to work on his will. He lived for two more weeks. I thought this was clearly a miracle but learned my family attributed this to him getting a blood transfusion!

Years later my Mom had a stroke in the middle of the night. By the time she got to the hospital they had no idea how long it had been so they couldn't give her some special medicine which is effective if given immediately. She was paralyzed on one side and couldn't speak. Again I prayed, the Lord healed her, and she had a full recovery even though everyone in the family thought this was going to be permanent. Once again no one attributed this to prayer, rather they said "you never know how these things will turn out".

The one thing that distinguishes the Lord from all others is the forgiveness of sins. The focus is not on healing the physical ailments, the focus is on the forgiveness of sins for eternal salvation. In that context when you pray for someone to be healed it will help the unbelievers to believe that Jesus forgives sins.

So then if the healing will help others to believe that Jesus has the authority to forgive sins then it is God's will. You can pray in full faith knowing that the Lord will hear and honor that prayer.
 

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Proverbs 21:17-31 A wise man scaleth the city of the mighty

17 He that loveth pleasure shall be a poor man: He that loveth wine and oil shall not be rich.



Lord, lead us not into temptation.


18 The wicked is a ransom for the righteous; And the treacherous cometh in the stead of the upright.


Amen Lord, thy will be done. As you have promised let it be done unto your servants.


19 It is better to dwell in a desert land, Than with a contentious and fretful woman.



Agreed. Why allow Youtube and Facebook and Twitter to censor you and tell you what to think. There are other platforms that by comparison may be a desert land but at least you are not dwelling with a contentious and fretful woman.


20 There is precious treasure and oil in the dwelling of the wise; But a foolish man swalloweth it up.



Lord save us from these fools like AOC. Yes, climate change is an issue, but giving AOC $100 trillion dollars is allowing the foolish man to swallow up our treasure.


21 He that followeth after righteousness and kindness Findeth life, righteousness, and honor.



Thank you Lord that there are still men and women like this today.


22 A wise man scaleth the city of the mighty, And bringeth down the strength of the confidence thereof.



Lord thank you for your wisdom, the cross of Christ is the strategy that will bring down the city of the mighty.


23 Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue Keepeth his soul from troubles.



Lord thank you for warning us about social media. We have seen so many fall into this trap and bring troubles on themselves.


24 The proud and haughty man, scoffer is his name; He worketh in the arrogance of pride.



These tech giants have been exposed, working in the arrogance of pride. We have seen they use algorithms to force feed people what they want them to see, to not let them see what they don’t want them to see, and to punish anyone who disagrees with them. Lord, weigh the hearts.


25 The desire of the sluggard killeth him; For his hands refuse to labor.



Lord there is a much bigger privilege than white privilege, it is the privilege of living in the USA. This is the land that you made a covenant with us when the Pilgrims came here. You taught us that the Puritan ethic of labor would be rewarded.


26 There is that coveteth greedily all the day long; But the righteous giveth and withholdeth not.


Lord we here these ones in the street calling for reparations every day. Again, you know all, you know who gives and withholds not, you see the poor widows casting all their living in to help others.


27 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination; How much more, when he bringeth it with a wicked mind!



Lord you are the one who knows the mind of man. Zuckerberg gave $400 million to tilt the scales in the election. He chose to violate laws to accomplish this end. Lord we trust in You to judge.


28 A false witness shall perish; But the man that heareth shall speak so as to endure.



Lord, the NY Times is a false witness. They pretended a clerk was a high level administration official as an anonymous source in order to smear the executive office. Twitter and Facebook are false witnesses, censoring critical stories concerning Biden for false and deceitful reasons. We pray that you would remember your word.


29 A wicked man hardeneth his face; But as for the upright, he establisheth his ways.



Lord we saw a wicked person harden their face in the Michigan hearings, the representative from Detroit. We heard her threats. Lord we pray you would establish our ways.


30 There is no wisdom nor understanding Nor counsel against Jehovah.



Lord keep us in You. You are the guarantee of victory.


31 The horse is prepared against the day of battle; But victory is of Jehovah.



Lord we have prepared ourselves for this day of battle, so we give it all to You because the victory is of You. May we listen and be attentive to the words You speak.
 

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Mark 7 -- That Which Defiles

1 The Pharisees and some of the teachers of the law who had come from Jerusalem gathered around Jesus 2 and saw some of his disciples eating food with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed. 3 (The Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they give their hands a ceremonial washing, holding to the tradition of the elders. 4 When they come from the marketplace they do not eat unless they wash. And they observe many other traditions, such as the washing of cups, pitchers and kettles.) 5 So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, “Why don’t your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?” 6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: “‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 7 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’ 8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.” 9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— 12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.” 14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15 Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.”

I think the expression here is “drop the mike”! Think about the previous chapter. The prophet without honor, they did not respect Jesus because they thought they knew Him as the carpenter. But the more they spoke the more they exposed how little they really did know him. Their ignorance was on full display when they spoke. Think about the story of John the Baptist being beheaded, everything they said at that time defiled them. The mother and daughter asking for the head of John the Baptist will be something they will have to answer for at the judgement seat of Christ. Everything Herod said, especially the command to cut off John the Baptists head and give it to this girl on a platter, these are the things that defile them. Now compare that to eating with unwashed hands. The Lord doesn’t deny that if you do that something could get into you, maybe it will make you sick, but it can’t defile you. When we appear before the judgement seat of Christ we will not be held accountable for some virus that entered into us, we are not judged because we came down with a stomach flu. But, you didn’t recognize Jesus! You dismissed Jesus because you thought you knew so much! You asked to have a man beheaded for a present! You had a man’s head cut off to please your dinner guests! These are things you will have to account for.

So let's apply this to the vaccine they want everyone to take. It can't defile you. Now if you give an order that everyone must take the vaccine even if you know that it will kill 0.1% and 0.1% of 300 million is 300,000 then you will have to account for that. If you censor people from providing the information necessary to evaluate the risk versus the reward in this vaccine then you will have to account for that. If you lie about effective therapeutics, or if you lie about the risk to children or if you lie about the vaccine protecting you when you know at best it will only protect you for a few months, then you will have to account for that as well.
 

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Sales Pitch for the Mark of the Beast

Imagine if every person had a unique mark that a monster super computer could track. We could eliminate tax fraud, all transactions could be done digitally using this unique identifier. We could eliminate identity theft. We could drastically reduce crime. Every crime committed would be easy to solve since you are able to track the location of every person at all times. It would be like the reason they stopped stealing phones. The stolen phone can be tracked to you. Likewise we could track all stolen merchandise to the thief in real time. But it is even bigger than this. Scientists have been developing the technology to read brain waves, so if we had this mark in your brain we could see what you see, hear what you hear, and yes, this is a two way communication. They could be able to send messages, make people hear voices and see visions. The power, all the power of the universe would be in the hands of this government.

Strategy for implementation


Ask the right question

Many people would ask "if they would kill the president do you think they would hesitate with me?" I think that is the wrong question. The question they ask is "Seeing how we got away with killing the president how can we get away with killing 3,000 during 9/11?" then the next question is "Seeing how we got away with killing 3,000 how can we get away with a worldwide pandemic?"

Sadly I think there are some people who just can't believe the government would lie to us about this. Ask them and they'll readily admit the government will lie about everything, but surely not about this. Why not? Well they think the government loves them and cares for them. That may be true during your productive years when you are working hard to pay taxes, but what about the elderly, the retirees? You are no longer a "giver" you are a "taker". If every person receiving Social Security benefits were to die then Social Security would be solvent, problem solved. Same is true of all these pension funds that about to collapse. The elderly who are receiving these benefits are exposing the thieves who have robbed and cleaned out the funds.

This is not personal, it is business.

So why do they need to kill people, what does that accomplish? They need to give you the injection for the mark and they have to give it to everyone. If they don't give it to everyone you will get competing economies out there. How do you convince 90% of the population to get this injection? So you need a worldwide pandemic that will kill you unless you get the injection.

But what about the risks to them?

Great point, you don't release a worldwide bioweapon that can kill if you don't first have the cure. This is why the studies on Ivermectin and HCQ were done prior to the release of the bioweapon. They had the cure which would prevent them from getting sick. This also explains why they publish their plans prior to us seeing them. The guy who discovers Ivermectin wants the credit and to get paid for that, likewise with the guy who discovered HCQ. They don't have to know the whole plan. It is like the guy who discovered nuclear fission, can it be used for good? Of course, can it be used to kill? Of course.
 

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Sales Pitch for the Mark of the Beast

Imagine if every person had a unique mark that a monster super computer could track. We could eliminate tax fraud, all transactions could be done digitally using this unique identifier. We could eliminate identity theft. We could drastically reduce crime. Every crime committed would be easy to solve since you are able to track the location of every person at all times. It would be like the reason they stopped stealing phones. The stolen phone can be tracked to you. Likewise we could track all stolen merchandise to the thief in real time. But it is even bigger than this. Scientists have been developing the technology to read brain waves, so if we had this mark in your brain we could see what you see, hear what you hear, and yes, this is a two way communication. They could be able to send messages, make people hear voices and see visions. The power, all the power of the universe would be in the hands of this government.

Strategy for implementation

Ask the right question

Many people would ask "if they would kill the president do you think they would hesitate with me?" I think that is the wrong question. The question they ask is "Seeing how we got away with killing the president how can we get away with killing 3,000 during 9/11?" then the next question is "Seeing how we got away with killing 3,000 how can we get away with a worldwide pandemic?"

Sadly I think there are some people who just can't believe the government would lie to us about this. Ask them and they'll readily admit the government will lie about everything, but surely not about this. Why not? Well they think the government loves them and cares for them. That may be true during your productive years when you are working hard to pay taxes, but what about the elderly, the retirees? You are no longer a "giver" you are a "taker". If every person receiving Social Security benefits were to die then Social Security would be solvent, problem solved. Same is true of all these pension funds that about to collapse. The elderly who are receiving these benefits are exposing the thieves who have robbed and cleaned out the funds.

This is not personal, it is business.

So why do they need to kill people, what does that accomplish? They need to give you the injection for the mark and they have to give it to everyone. If they don't give it to everyone you will get competing economies out there. How do you convince 90% of the population to get this injection? So you need a worldwide pandemic that will kill you unless you get the injection.

But what about the risks to them?

Great point, you don't release a worldwide bioweapon that can kill if you don't first have the cure. This is why the studies on Ivermectin and HCQ were done prior to the release of the bioweapon. They had the cure which would prevent them from getting sick. This also explains why they publish their plans prior to us seeing them. The guy who discovers Ivermectin wants the credit and to get paid for that, likewise with the guy who discovered HCQ. They don't have to know the whole plan. It is like the guy who discovered nuclear fission, can it be used for good? Of course, can it be used to kill? Of course.
The Kill Switch

I have even seen scientific documents that not only can they read brain waves and send messages to your brain, they can even send something that would trigger a brain aneurysm to kill you. It just gives them so much more power and control.

I am thrilled to be alive at this time and seeing all these things we have read about being fulfilled right before our eyes. When I tell people this they get angry, these things are terrifying, we shouldn't be rejoicing. I'm not rejoicing at what Satan is doing, I'm rejoicing that God is faithful to do all that He said He would do and that includes shining a light on the evil one.

I can sympathize with those who are scared


But I get the point, we are all human, we all have fears and that includes me. There are some very real things that really sent me to my knees. For example, I can remember this vividly when I first got the news. I was 25 or 26, but that is not what I was thinking, my thought was "I am too young to be hearing this, I'm not ready, I have my whole life in front of me". I don't remember this woman's name but her face is seared into my memory. I was sitting in a chair, she was right in front of me hitting my forehead with a comb. Like everyone at first I was in denial, "I want another opinion". She had just told me I had a receding hair line, I was going bald!

This shouldn't have been a big surprise, my grandfather and uncle were both bald. It is just that you never think this will happen to you. There was a woman at the church, she was the mother of two very beautiful daughters and she told me that women like bald men, she was trying to comfort me and it was very helpful. So look, I can sympathize with those who say they aren't ready for this, they are too young, etc. But my feeling is that the Bible says that God will have them in derision and so I also will be one with God and hold the evil one in derision.
 

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Once again, the Vaccine does not defile your heart.

17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.) 20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”

So let’s reiterate in case you want to argue that He is talking solely about food. Yes, this applies to food which was a very big topic at the time Mark wrote this gospel and since this is considered the gospel according to Peter it is also a big topic from Peter’s experience. But Jesus does not limit this to food. He says “Are you so dull?” He asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from outside can defile them? For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” Well, hold on, the vaccine is something that enters the person from outside, but does it go into the stomach? Also, can’t these spike proteins be found in the heart? No doubt there will be these statements made from those who are exceedingly dull. The context is food and unwashed hands. So the context is not so much about unclean food as it is about germs on your hand. Mark wants to make sure everyone can see that this principle about dirty hands and germs can also refer to foods that are considered unclean. But the real context is bacteria and other germs on your hands and practices related to your health. Second, Jesus is not talking about the heart that is pumping blood, He is talking about he heart from which “evil thoughts come”. As horrible as you want to portray the vaccine it does not enter the heart “from which evil thoughts come”.

That said the evidence is starting to pour in that the vaccine is extremely harmful to health.
 

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Casting out the demon of cancel culture

24 Jesus left that place and went to the vicinity of Tyre. He entered a house and did not want anyone to know it; yet he could not keep his presence secret. 25 In fact, as soon as she heard about him, a woman whose little daughter was possessed by an impure spirit came and fell at his feet. 26 The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter. 27 “First let the children eat all they want,” he told her, “for it is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.” 28 “Lord,” she replied, “even the dogs under the table eat the children’s crumbs.” 29 Then he told her, “For such a reply, you may go; the demon has left your daughter.” 30 She went home and found her child lying on the bed, and the demon gone.

Right now we have a lot of demon possessed children. If there is even the slightest hint of an insult they want to cancel a person. They examine twenty years of things they have said in interviews, posts, even jokes at home, and even the slightest insult sets them off. We need the faith of the syrophoenician woman. She is called a dog by the Lord, she doesn’t explode, get angry, take revenge, attempt to cancel Him. No, she says OK, I’m a dog, but even dogs have the right to live and to eat. The Lord said He was the bread for the children of Israel and she said Lord, they have “cancelled you”, they have thrown you on the floor, surely the dogs get to eat the bread that falls from the table. If you want to follow the Lord you need to embrace being a “deplorable”. You are the lowest rung on the social ladder. Embrace that, no one is lower than you. Not only so but rejoice in that, if Israel had not thrown Jesus off the table the Gentiles (us) would never have known salvation. This is such a blessing to know and follow Jesus while it is still not fashionable. The day will come when every knee will bow, that will be too late. You want to be one that bows the knee when it actually costs you something.
 

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Jesus Heals a Deaf and Mute Man

31 Then Jesus left the vicinity of Tyre and went through Sidon, down to the Sea of Galilee and into the region of the Decapolis. 32 There some people brought to him a man who was deaf and could hardly talk, and they begged Jesus to place his hand on him. 33 After he took him aside, away from the crowd, Jesus put his fingers into the man’s ears. Then he spit and touched the man’s tongue. 34 He looked up to heaven and with a deep sigh said to him, “Ephphatha!” (which means “Be opened!”). 35 At this, the man’s ears were opened, his tongue was loosened and he began to speak plainly. 36 Jesus commanded them not to tell anyone. But the more he did so, the more they kept talking about it. 37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.”

This is the other issue we are seeing right now, there are people who have absolutely no idea what is going on. They hear no evil and speak no evil. Our fingers are members of our hands, and our hands are what we use to do work. These are the members who are doing the work to open up our ears. When you preach the gospel you are a finger, when someone speaks the truth they are a finger. MSNBC, Facebook, Twitter all have an agenda and they want to keep you from hearing the truth. However, more important than that is the spiritual warfare against speaking the Bible and speaking the word of truth. Still what you see is that people will learn who is speaking the truth to them. CNN claims to be the “most trusted name in news” no one believes that anymore. The NY Times claimed to print all the news that is fit to print, another lie exposed. Their lack of credibility causes alternative sites to thrive. At first they are called “conspiracy theorists” but when they are the highest rated shows it becomes pretty lame to still call them conspiracy theorists. The joke this last year is that it takes 60 days to go from being a tin foil hat conspiracy to accepted truth.

So the first step in speaking is to have your ears opened. But then look at how Jesus heals his speaking. It is very wonderful picture. First Jesus spits and touches his tongue, presumably with a finger dipped in spit. Then He looks up into heaven and with a deep sigh “be opened”. Then it says the tongue “loosened” like it had been tied into a knot.

The enemy is attacking our ears to keep them closed to the truth and he attacks our tongue to tie it into knots. That is what “cancel culture” and “race baiting” and “CRT” and “LGBTQ” rights and “transgender rights” and all kinds of outrageous things happening in the news are all intended to get you tongue tied. A story about a person who lost their job because of some innocuous post on Facebook -- scare you into keeping your mouth shut. This person’s business got cancelled because we get a video revealing the hypocrisy of Nancy Pelosi. Keep your mouth shut or the same will happen to you. At some point you need to get disgusted, spit it out!
 

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Jeremiah 25:1-11 -- Seventy years are fulfilled

1 The word came to Jeremiah concerning all the people of Judah in the fourth year of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, which was the first year of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. 2 So Jeremiah the prophet said to all the people of Judah and to all those living in Jerusalem: 3 For twenty-three years—from the thirteenth year of Josiah son of Amon king of Judah until this very day—the word of the Lord has come to me and I have spoken to you again and again, but you have not listened.

To understand this word we have to have an understanding of what Babylon and Judah represent. Judah was one of the twelve tribes of Israel and when Israel split into two kingdoms they were the ones that continued to worship in Jerusalem. They are also the tribe that King David was from and the tribe Jesus was descended from. They were the law givers, the covenant keepers. In the simplest terms I would say that Judah represents God’s people on earth where Jesus is their king. In a word it is the church. So then what does Babylon represent? This is the place that Abraham was called out from, it is a place that built a tower to the heavens in competition with God, a tower built and founded upon idolatry. But in the context of today we should also look at what Revelation 18 says:

2 And he cried with a mighty voice, saying, Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, and is become a habitation of demons, and a hold of every unclean spirit, and a hold of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For by the wine of the wrath of her fornication all the nations are fallen; and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth waxed rich by the power of her wantonness.

So the first thing that stands out is “the great”. There are only a few nations right now that can consider themselves great. China, but they are usually referred to as the Great Dragon. Revelation refers to the Dragon and Babylon as both being “great” but also being different. You might also consider Europe as a kind of reformed Roman empire to be great as well. However, they are associated with Rome, not Babylon. Many bible scholars consider Babylon to refer to the USA. I think that would have been a very difficult theory to support a hundred years ago. A hundred years ago we were not

“a habitation of demons, and a hold of every unclean spirit, and a hold of every unclean and hateful bird.”

However, Revelation is quite specific and says that Babylon “has become” this habitation of demons. In the last 70 years there has been an amazing “becoming” in the US that has shocked the rest of the world. In the sixties we had several key assassinations that forever changed our government. Since that time the military industrial complex has been firmly in charge of our country. 50 years ago we had our first gay pride parade. In the 1980s we had the AIDS epidemic and we had the Iran Contra affair.

3 For by the wine of the wrath of her fornication all the nations are fallen;


The Iran contra affair is a perfect example of what Revelation is referring to when it says that the wine of the wrath of her fornication all the nations are fallen. The CIA cut a deal to sell arms to Iran, illegally, to raise money to fund a coup in Nicaragua, also illegal. In the 1990s we had the collapse of the USSR and we also had the Gulf war. The developing world refers to the CIA as "Cocaine Importing Agency". That is the "wine" of the "wrath" of her fornication.

and the merchants of the earth waxed rich by the power of her wantonness.

NAFTA also went into effect in the 90s. This bill gutted our manufacturing in the US outsourcing it to China, Asia, and Mexico. In the 2000’s we had 9/11 attack and also the mortgage meltdown. I could go on but the recent election and allegations of fraud and the complete refusal of the government leaders and officials to investigate this supports this verse that yes, the US could indeed be considered “Babylon the Great”. When you talk about the merchants of the whole earth getting rich from her it is very hard to make a case for any country other than the US. The merchants of the world include the oil industry, made rich by the power of the USA's wantonness. The merchants of the world include those that sell guns, again waxed rich by the power of the USA's wantonness.

4 And though the Lord has sent all his servants the prophets to you again and again, you have not listened or paid any attention. 5 They said, “Turn now, each of you, from your evil ways and your evil practices, and you can stay in the land the Lord gave to you and your ancestors for ever and ever. 6 Do not follow other gods to serve and worship them; do not arouse my anger with what your hands have made. Then I will not harm you.” 7 “But you did not listen to me,” declares the Lord, “and you have aroused my anger with what your hands have made, and you have brought harm to yourselves.”

This is talking about the church. So during the same time that the US was “becoming a dwelling of demons” the Lord was warning the church. There have been people warning about the teaching concerning excessive grace that does not require holy living. Gospel messages that don’t include the call for repentance from sin. The prosperity gospel that equates monetary blessings with spiritual blessings and turns the worship of God into the worship of mammon. Of course when we talk about the Lord warning the church we have to go to Revelation 2-3 where we see the warning concerning Jezebel and her fornication and the deep things of Satan. We are warned that if we don’t repent the Lord will come as a thief and we won’t know the day or hour. Philadelphia is warned to hold fast what they have and not to let anyone take their crown.

8 Therefore the Lord Almighty says this: “Because you have not listened to my words, 9 I will summon all the peoples of the north and my servant Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon,” declares the Lord, “and I will bring them against this land and its inhabitants and against all the surrounding nations. I will completely destroy them and make them an object of horror and scorn, and an everlasting ruin.10 I will banish from them the sounds of joy and gladness, the voices of bride and bridegroom, the sound of millstones and the light of the lamp. 11 This whole country will become a desolate wasteland, and these nations will serve the king of Babylon seventy years.

This is the portion that brought me to this word. This is the word in Jeremiah that Daniel refers to when he says he realized that they would be in Babylon for 70 years. The prophecy in Daniel is fully concerned with Jerusalem and it was 70 years ago on January 23, 1948 that Israel recognized Jerusalem as their capital. That would be an interesting coincidence except for the fact that we also have Israel making peace treaties with several countries concerning Jerusalem this year, which is another portion that Daniel prophesied about. So then if Babylon represents the US (we are examining this hypothesis) then after 70 years, after Jan 23, 2021 the Lord will bring the King of Babylon who includes “the peoples of the North” apparently this king is a globalist and is working with China, Russia and Europe. The lord will bring this king against the church. What are they planning on shutting down churches, making it illegal to preach the gospel, requiring pastors to marry people in violation of the New Testament? Are they going to require that the churches pay for abortions? Will they go as far as what they are doing in China where churches have to have a portrait of Xi in the sanctuary and sing the national anthem as part of their worship service. What does it mean to make them “an object of horror and scorn and everlasting ruin”? I am reminded of Lot. The account of the angels going to deliver him is certainly an account of horror. But in addition it is an account of scorn as the people tell him to shut up why should they listen to Lot. Of course once fire falls on Sodom and Gomorrah it was a place of everlasting ruin. Lot is a type of the rapture according to Jesus, but not of the glorious rapture at the beginning of the tribulation but rather the rapture of those who barely escape the fire in the middle of the tribulation. So then it appears that after Jan 23, 2021 the Great tribulation would begin and that during this time the Christians who remain are made an object of horror and scorn and everlasting ruin. If that is true then during these seventy years from 1950 to 2020 the church became “a desolate wasteland”. Desolate is a place of bleak and dismal emptiness. That has certainly been a major concern for many denominations in the US over these last 70 years. What has been true of these denominations is that they have not listened to the Lord’s word. Again and again they have argued that this word or that word no longer applies to today. They have treated the Lord’s word and His name as though it were vain and empty.
 

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I am sharing one of these videos from Steve Fletcher but he has put together a number of videos on Purim. I like several aspects of this. Obviously there are many connections between the book of Esther and the antichrist, the rapture, the stop the steal rallies, and what we are seeing today with the globalists agenda.