Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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On the 9th of AV Noah released the raven, and on the 16th of August (9th of AV) the Taliban took over Afghanistan. Ravens eat carrion just like the Taliban taking over all the equipment and army bases of the US abandoned.

However, it explains this verse that the Lord's coming is as a thief in the night. The people of Afghanistan woke up the next morning and everyone was in the street and they were asking what happened and the people said "the Taliban took over". In a single night their whole world changed.
 

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John 15:1-14 -- Jesus Christ, the biggest revolutionary of this age

1 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener.

This is what each of us needs to find, “the true vine”. For example, on Youtube I look for true channels. Recently my brother told me I should subscribe to the NY Times because they were the standard bearers for journalism. But when I investigated a little I was very uneasy with the large number of cases of plagiarism, and being used as a propaganda mouthpiece. The final straw was their use of Miles Taylor as an anonymous source while portraying him as a high level administrative official. When I read their stories I thought for sure he must be Pence, or Pompeo, or the Chief of Staff. No, it was “Miles Taylor” someone no one had ever heard of and that was because he was a nobody. Jesus was the true vine, not all the "main stream" media of the time, not the Scribes, not the religious officials, not the Roman officials, Jesus.

2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit,

Once I realized that the NY Times willfully distribute false and misleading information to pursue their own agenda, I cut them off. Elon Musk has revealed that Twitter is false and misleading, another branch that will be cut off.

while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.

If you are a fruitful branch then the Lord will prune you, cutting off all the "sapper" branches that waste your energy. DeBlasio mandated the vaccine for teachers, that forced me to retire. However, I see this as God the father pruning me, giving me even more time to devote to this blog.

3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.

These words clean us of ignorance, biases, opinions etc. It is essential for a democracy to operate, for us to exercise dominion, that we have a word that cleans us. The flip side is that the propaganda from the NY Times and Twitter makes you unclean.

4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. 5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.

This word “remain in Me” is huge. All the phony baloney media are trying to do is to get you to step outside of Jesus Christ. When you are screaming curse words and hate you have stepped outside of Jesus Christ. If the internet is disseminating the truth, if the true vine is growing on this platform, then Satan’s kingdom will fall. I have discovered that many of the channels I subscribe to are “shadow banned”. What does that mean? Well, let’s say you are interested in stories about a particular topic. There is an algorithm in Youtube that is supposed to recognize that and then recommend other channels that you might like based on your viewing history. To be “shadow banned” means their algorithm will not recommend that channel regardless of how likely it is that you would like it. If this doesn’t work to shut those channels down then they will censor their posts or their channel. This is the battle today because without a free press with the truth on some channels we cannot possibly have a democracy.

6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.

Those that don’t remain in the Lord are like those who are rioting and looting. They are going to be picked up, convicted and thrown in prison. You did not remain in Christ. Jesus Christ is the biggest revolutionary of this age. If you want to make a stand for justice, you need to follow Jesus.

7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

I remember a news article from a publisher that I did not trust. They said that armed Trump supporters had surrounded a vote counting location in Arizona. So I searched and found a video of the event and saw hundreds of Trump supporters kneeling in prayer outside of the station, praying that every legal vote be counted. Shortly after that prayer it came out that there is a glitch in the software that Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina and Pennsylvania uses that “accidentally” switched 6,000 ballots for Trump to Biden. If you want the election to reflect the will of the people, then ask and it will be done for you. If you want the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade then pray. Pray concerning the border. Pray concerning the economy.

8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.

There were a lot of comments on that video commending those people for praying peacefully and glorifying God.

9 “As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love.

If you remain in Christ you have no choice but to remain in His love. You want the election to reflect the will of the people regardless of who they voted for. There is no hate speech against Democrats, or Republicans, or anyone for their political beliefs. Jesus died for all of us to be saved, not just one small clique.

10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

How do we remain in Christ? We keep the Lord’s commandments, those keep us in His love, and that in turn keeps us in Him. Speak the truth in love. The word of God is truth. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

11 I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete.

Our joy will be complete when we are all one, when we have a glorious testimony of Christ in us, and when we bring in the kingdom on earth as it is in heaven.

12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14 You are my friends if you do what I command.

Once again, in the middle of the battle it is very hard to do that. According to many media outlets anyone who voted for Trump must be a racist. There are those who are totally deranged because 50% of the country apparently voted for him. This vitriol continued for another year so that an immigrant from Jamaica, a black woman, is elected lieutenant Governor of Virginia and they want to portray her as a white supremacist that is a puppet for Trump. On the flip side the corruption that has been revealed in the Biden family is appalling. But take heart, little by little people saw through the slander. Remember the Lord Jesus and the love He expressed when He lay down His life for us. It was a monkey trial, He was scourged and then crucified. In the end He said “forgive them for they know not what they do”. We do know we are being lied to, we do know that the corruption in the government is deep, but even so it is a very dark path we are on and it seems at the very least 50% of us are deceived. So those of you who are sure you know the truth forgive the other ones for “they know not what they do”.
 

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John 15:15-27 You also must testify

15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.

There is an interesting prophecy in Hosea 13. Although this is my interpretation it seemed to me he was saying that Biden’s apparent victory in this election would be like the dew on the grass which disappears when the hot sun rises. It would be like smoke disappearing out of a window. In eighteen months Biden's approval rating has dropped more than any president in history. His "political capital" is like smoke disappearing out a window. Trump is an impudent man with a brazen face. Perhaps God will use him to bring a judgement on the mighty (Hosea 13) where all the wicked have become so common.

16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you.

My prayer is that the church will stand strong against the stratagems of the evil one, we will be strengthened with might into Jesus Christ who has been made head over all things.

17 This is my command: Love each other. 18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.

This makes sense but it also means they are really big liars. The world refers to those who deny Jesus Christ, deny His kingdom, deny His word, and yet the reason they hate us is because the Lord has chosen us out of the world. The world is always pitching a sales pitch about how great the world is, but in reality they know it is a hellish rat race and hate us because we have been chosen out of it. Now imagine what happens after the rapture? That will certainly enrage them! According to Paul once the Holy Spirit steps aside then the man of lawlessness is truly revealed. Once again there is a spiritual battle going on between these Christians who will be raptured that are filled with the Holy Spirit and those who are filled with the spirit of the antichrist. Right now some are asking should we fight fire with fire, the left uses this cancel culture to attack conservative Christians, should be use the same tactic on them? No, the command is to love each other, to do unto others as you would have them do to you.

20 Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.

There are those who voted for Biden hoping it would end the persecution. This is like Neville Chamberlain’s policy of appeasing Hitler. You do not appease a bully. In my experience I channel my inner “badger”. If a full grown bear comes across a badger that badger will fight for all he’s got. It seems crazy that this tiny animal thinks he has a chance, but look at it from his point of view. Maybe I will die, but I can take out the bear’s nose or his eyes. Is it worth it to a bear to lose an eye over a small snack? We don't respond tit for tat, however, if they say "get the vaccine or lose your job" you walk off the job, you sell your house and you go somewhere where they will welcome you. This is not our home, we are only passing through.

21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me.

Jesus Christ is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. If you are in Christ and expressing Christ you will express this Lion, even if you are the size of a small house cat. They treat you like a small house cat because they don't know the Lion who sent you.

22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.

This is why we must stand strong and speak. Jesus is speaking through you to them.

23 Whoever hates me hates my Father as well.

If you are in Christ and they hate you, then they hate the Father also and you know exactly where they are coming from, the spirit of the antichrist.

24 If I had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. As it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated both me and my Father.

According to the account in the gospels the priests knew that an angel rolled away the stone and Jesus resurrected from the dead. They knew that Jesus was the promised Messiah. Yet they paid the soldiers money to spread a lie. We are seeing the same thing today. The FBI knew that Biden was guilty of a number of sins but kept quiet. They knew they had evidence that would exonerate Trump during the impeachment but they kept quiet. We are seeing a lot of lies and at the same time those who are holding down the truth in unrighteousness. This is the evidence of their guilt and sin that will convict them at the Great White Throne judgement.

25 But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’

There is a purpose to what is going on. What we are seeing today with this “polarization” is to make it very clear who gets raptured to heaven and who gets tossed in the fire.

26 “When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me.

Right now we need to pray that the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father will come and testify.

27 And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning.

If you want to be in Christ, in His love, then you must keep His commandments and one of them is that you must testify.
 

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John 16:1-22 -- Take heart, I have overcome the world

1 “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away. 2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.

We are seeing this now. The censorship on Facebook, Twitter and Youtube. For example, someone posted a notice about setting up peaceful protests concerning the election called “stop the steal” and Facebook took it down claiming it would incite violence. The mainstream media is portraying the concerns of election fraud as the ravings of unstable people, or baseless claims, or paranoid poor losers. They are abusing the political prisoners arrested for trespassing on January 6th, they have been held for 10 months, often in solitary confinement. They were foolish to fall into that trap, snared like birds, but this is simply a foretaste of the abuse we are about to see.

3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. 4 I have told you this, so that when their time comes you will remember that I warned you about them.

We were warned. Their claims of “diversity training” and “inclusion” does not include Christians, it does not include people who believe the Bible is the word of God and that Jesus is Lord. Satanists will soon be released, we can already see the lawless ones chomping at the bit to be set loose.

I did not tell you this from the beginning because I was with you, 5 but now I am going to him who sent me.

When the Lord was here on the Earth He was a bubble. We could be covered and protected by Him. But now that He is going to the Father in Heaven He is now Lord of all with all authority and all power given to Him for the church.

None of you asks me, ‘Where are you going?’ 6 Rather, you are filled with grief because I have said these things. 7 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.

This is how you grow, how you mature. We were like little children watching Jesus and learning from Jesus. But now, we learn by doing. The Spirit will be inside of us, guiding us, and He refers to this Spirit as “the advocate”. The Spiritual battle is a legal battle. We will be accused and tried by Satan with the Spirit as our advocate, this is the very best way to be led in the truth. I believe the same thing happens during the tribulation, it is good for those who are left behind that some are raptured. This is a spiritual warfare in the air and once the rapture takes place it will be Jesus who controls the air while Satan will be cast to the ground.

8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me; 10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.

The Spirit is “the Advocate”. He is our defense lawyer. Satan will attack us, accuse us, and He will defend us. They will accuse us of sin, but that is because they don’t believe in the Lord. It is not sinful to refuse the vaccine. This is what they did concerning Saint Stephen, they accused him of teaching contrary to their religion because they didn’t believe that Jesus was the Messiah. The resurrection and ascension of Jesus convicted them of unrighteousness. All those who had sentenced Jesus to death stood condemned. We are seeing this play out again. All of these phony reasons for censoring Christians, these are false accusations because they don’t believe that Jesus is Lord. When the rapture takes place and we go to the Father they will be condemned concerning righteousness. They want to give $450,000 to each person who was separated from their kids when they came into our country illegally. How about the people being held for trespassing on January 6th, they are separated from their kids, are they going to pay them? Hunter Biden is getting $450,000 per painting, why not just give each of them a painting from Hunter Biden? At that time the “prince of this world” will stand condemned. All those involved in election fraud, all those involved in the corruption that Hunter Biden’s laptop reveals, or that the money laundering with Swiss banks reveals, or that the investigations into the CCP’s business dealings with US government contacts reveals, or even those involved in the Epstein crimes reveals. They will all stand condemned.

12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

There is so much to this we need to be guided little by little and step by step. Just with election fraud alone the size and scope is massive. People who did a canvass over 4 precincts in Arizona found 1 in 5 registered voters in Arizona were potentially bogus. There is evidence that the computer program designed to count the votes was written so that a certain portion of the votes for Trump would be assigned to Biden. We have seen throughout the age of grace that we have been led into all the truth, day by day. It should not be a great surprise to Christians that the Lord is now leading us into this revelation concerning the rapture.

14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. 15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”

Jesus is Lord, the gospel has gone out throughout the entire world. As a result we have born again believers who are everywhere in this evil age. They work for the post office, they work in polling stations, they work counting votes, they work writing software. The problem with a massive fraud like this is that you cannot keep it secret. Thousands of people came forward with affidavits of fraud, or by volunteering to help with the audit or the canvass, others have worked with the lawyers on lawsuits, and still others work publishing the news.

16 Jesus went on to say, “In a little while you will see me no more, and then after a little while you will see me.” 17 At this, some of his disciples said to one another, “What does he mean by saying, ‘In a little while you will see me no more, and then after a little while you will see me,’ and ‘Because I am going to the Father’?” 18 They kept asking, “What does he mean by ‘a little while’? We don’t understand what he is saying.”

He meant that He was going to be crucified dead and buried. Then after 3 days He would rise from the dead victorious and that Satan would be put to an open shame.

19 Jesus saw that they wanted to ask him about this, so he said to them, “Are you asking one another what I meant when I said, ‘In a little while you will see me no more, and then after a little while you will see me’? 20 Very truly I tell you, you will weep and mourn while the world rejoices. You will grieve, but your grief will turn to joy.

This is what we are seeing today. People all over the world are taking a stand. They are taking a stand against some of these transgender laws, taking a stand against CRT being taught in schools, taking a stand against election fraud, etc, etc. We have stopped wallowing in the mud and instead stood up for the Lord.

21 A woman giving birth to a child has pain because her time has come; but when her baby is born she forgets the anguish because of her joy that a child is born into the world.

The rapture is likened to a woman giving birth to the man child who is then caught up to God. This last year has been painful, we have had anguish, but now we can see joy to see the believers taking a stand.

22 So with you: Now is your time of grief, but I will see you again and you will rejoice, and no one will take away your joy.

The age began with Jesus being the firstfruit, the firstborn, and it ends with the harvest, with us following Him.
 

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The 17th of Tammuz -- A story about Jesus descending from heaven with a shout

1Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

The rapture of the saints is preceded by the Lord descending, not ascending. Jesus comes down from heaven and then we go up. Shavuot does not depict Jesus going down, Jesus is depicted by Moses, a type of Christ, ascending into the clouds. This was fulfilled by the Lord’s ascension. The Bible does not say that Jesus was on Earth for 40 days from His resurrection to His ascension. What it says is that He met 40 times with the disciples during that time to teach them about the kingdom. It is very clear from the accounts that the Lord would appear and then disappear. They would decide to go off fishing and then they see the Lord cooking fish on the beach.

What we need as a type of the rapture is a story about Moses descending from the mountain top. We have such a story on Tammuz 17.
 

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Before the Rapture they will be eating, drinking, marrying and giving in marriage

Matthew 24:36-39 But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

This verse reveals that prior to the rapture people are eating and drinking. This proves the rapture cannot be on the 9th of Av because we have a 3 week fast that precedes and culminates in the 9th of Av. This verse also says that they will be marrying and giving in marriage, again, it can’t be the 9th of Av because prior to the 9th of Av they don’t marry and give in marriage for three weeks.


However, after the rapture what do you think they will be doing? Do you think the Christians who are left behind will be feasting or fasting? Do you think they will be drinking the worldly wine or praying? Will they be getting married or will they be in the upper room seeking the Lord? This is not conjecture, Jesus said it would be like the days of Noah. After the flood came how many were feasting, how many were marrying? So then we are looking for a day in the Hebrew calendar where you are eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage before hand, but from that day onwards you aren’t.


Tammuz 17 begins a 3 week fast in which you don't eat and you don't get married.

This verse tells us that the rapture begins a fast, it begins a time when they stop marrying.
 

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We have an OT type of the restrainer being removed

2Thessalonians 2:6 And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.

The one who restrains can be likened to the wall around Jerusalem holding out the Roman invaders and the men on the wall at the front of the battle. These are the ones who are raptured. They are taken up, the wall is breached, and the invaders flood in. The 17th of Tammuz is when the walls were breached and the enemy horde swept into Jerusalem. Paul says that our rapture takes place when that which restrains is moved out of the way.

What happens after the rapture? The Bible doesn't say that AntiChrist is revealed the same day as the rapture but it does say that fallen angels are cast to Earth like a flood and that is what happens when the walls are breached. Think of the fallen angels as an invading host laying siege to Jerusalem.
 

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Tammuz 17 was when the house was broken up

Matthew 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

The saints who are raptured are those on the walls watching and trying to prevent the house from being broken in. Once they are raptured the house is broken in, this happened on Tammuz 17 when the walls of Jerusalem were breached.
 

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Biden is going to Israel like a thief in the night

1Thessalonians 5:2-3 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. For when they say, "Peace and safety!" then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.

Joe Biden is coming to Israel on July 13th (Tammuz 14) saying "peace and safety" and he is coming like a thief in the night to steal half of Israel away from God. Tammuz 17 is when we had "sudden destruction" that came upon the Jews with the walls of Jerusalem being breached and the invading horde sweeping through. They are coming like a thief in the night saying Peace and safety.
 

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Before the Rapture they will be eating, drinking, marrying and giving in marriage

Matthew 24:36-39 But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

This verse reveals that prior to the rapture people are eating and drinking. This proves the rapture cannot be on the 9th of Av because we have a 3 week fast that precedes and culminates in the 9th of Av. This verse also says that they will be marrying and giving in marriage, again, it can’t be the 9th of Av because prior to the 9th of Av they don’t marry and give in marriage for three weeks.


However, after the rapture what do you think they will be doing? Do you think the Christians who are left behind will be feasting or fasting? Do you think they will be drinking the worldly wine or praying? Will they be getting married or will they be in the upper room seeking the Lord? This is not conjecture, Jesus said it would be like the days of Noah. After the flood came how many were feasting, how many were marrying? So then we are looking for a day in the Hebrew calendar where you are eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage before hand, but from that day onwards you aren’t.


Tammuz 17 begins a 3 week fast in which you don't eat and you don't get married.

This verse tells us that the rapture begins a fast, it begins a time when they stop marrying.
Several have commented that we do have marriages during this three week period of mourning in Israel. OK, but the verse about the days of Noah indicates that there is no mourning going on, eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage indicates no fasting, no mourning, no hesitancy about marriage. Ask an orthodox Jew at the time of Jesus or even today and they would not schedule a wedding during this three week period.

On the other hand the implication of this verse is that after the rapture you will not have people eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, instead they will all be destroyed in the flood.
 

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We have an OT type of the restrainer being removed

2Thessalonians 2:6 And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.

The one who restrains can be likened to the wall around Jerusalem holding out the Roman invaders and the men on the wall at the front of the battle. These are the ones who are raptured. They are taken up, the wall is breached, and the invaders flood in. The 17th of Tammuz is when the walls were breached and the enemy horde swept into Jerusalem. Paul says that our rapture takes place when that which restrains is moved out of the way.

What happens after the rapture? The Bible doesn't say that AntiChrist is revealed the same day as the rapture but it does say that fallen angels are cast to Earth like a flood and that is what happens when the walls are breached. Think of the fallen angels as an invading host laying siege to Jerusalem.
After the restrainer is "out of the way" the AntiChrist will be revealed in his time. Based on the days of Noah it would seem that the 9th of Av would be the most appropriate time for the Antichrist to be revealed. As a result I would say that the rapture must take place before the 9th of Av.
 

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Tammuz 17 is the least of days

Of all the days we have looked at: Passover, Firstfruits, Shavuot, Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, this is the "least of the days". You would never say that "no one knows the day or the hour" about Passover. I know that Shavuot and Feast of Trumpets seemed like at least to a little degree you could say that. However, the big 7 feasts are all big events in the timeline of Jesus. I think it is a mistake to assume that one of those feasts will be the rapture.

Matthew 2:6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, art not the least among the princes of Judah: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.

Luke 9:48 And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

Luke 16:10 He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.

Ephesians 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

This word "least" means smallest in size, in rank, in importance, in authority, in the estimation of men. The rapture is when those who were the least in the estimation of men get revealed as not being the least in the estimation of God.
 

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Look at the Rapture from the perspective of those left behind

Moses broke the tablets on the 17th of Av because of the sin of the molten calf.

Exodus 32 seems to depict the rapture from the perspective of those who are left behind. Dr. Barry Awe compared this to the jealous husband who forces his wife to drink the bitter water in the temple to learn if she has been unfaithful.

On the 17th of Av they didn't have enough sheep for the offerings

During the Babylonian siege of Jerusalem the Jews were forced to cease the daily offerings and sacrifices because of the lack of sheep on the 17th of Tammuz. The sheep are gone on this day. They had to cease the daily offering because of the lack of sheep. Those who are raptured are making a daily offering, once they are taken there are no longer enough sheep to make that offering.

In the book of Revelation there is only one reference to sheep and it is 18:13 in reference to the judgment that falls on the Great Babylon in one day. Acts refers to Jesus being led like a sheep to the slaughter. The Gospel of John refers to sheep more than any New Testament book, it refers in 19 verses to sheep, mentions sheep specifically 22 times, and the sheepfold once. The only other book with a similar number is 1Samuel with 21 verses mentioning sheep, 21 times sheep is used and once sheepcotes is used. These are very interesting numbers in meaning.

John 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.

The rapture is Jesus leading the sheep out, and once they are gone there is a lack of sheep for the daily offerings to the Lord.

John 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

Now that is very interesting because Tammuz is the fourth month and the letter for four means door. The word door is tied to the rapture in many verses (Revelation 4:1, James 5:9, Col 4:3, Acts 16:26, Luke 13:25, John 10:9, Mark 11:4, Mark 13:29, Matt 24:33, Isaiah 26:20, SoS 5:4)

John 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

This verse is clearly referring to the tribulation, the phony pastors, the crooks running the government, etc.

Mark 6:34 And Jesus, when he came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and he began to teach them many things.

Mark is the gospel to those left behind during the tribulation and I like how here it says they are like sheep without a Shepherd whereas Luke does not say this. What happened to the shepherds? The true ones were raptured and the false ones were revealed to have been false.

Genesis 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

This is the first mention of sheep and interestingly you could view Abel as a pastor or shepherd. The first martyr was a pastor or shepherd.

Some guy burned the holy Torah on the 17th of Tammuz

This reminds me of Moses breaking the tablets. The covenant with God was broken, dishonored. Again, this reminds me of the jealous husband forcing his wife to drink the water mixed with ashes to learn if she has been unfaithful.

An idol was placed in the Holy temple on this date

Once again, a picture of the jealous husband and the unfaithful wife. The saints who are taken before the rapture are not unfaithful and do not provoke the Lord to jealousy, but this looks like the saints who are left behind after the rapture.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

The Walls of the temple were breached by the Romans on 17th of Tammuz

Once again, the walls restrain the evil one from entering Jerusalem. When the man child is raptured the fallen angels are cast to the earth. Paul describes this event as He who restrains (the Holy spirit in the faithful servants) stepping aside.
 

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Polar opposites

This is a month of two polar opposites. You have the highest high coming off of Shavuot and you have the lowest low with the sin of the golden calf. This is the rapture. It is the highest high for those who are raptured, they will be listed in Hebrews 11, they will be like Abraham and the heroes of faith. Then you have the lowest low, the apostasy, all those believers who corrupted themselves with idol worship, who erased the Bible, broke the commandments and even taught others to do the same.

Everything speaks of Sight

During the entire month of Tammuz the Israelites spied out the good land. This month is associated with Reuben (see a Son). The spies all see the same thing, 2 are saying "God is with us" and 10 are saying "we can't do it".
 

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Remove the Body

The heavenly sign for this month is the crab. A month of revealing, renewing and removing.

The Hebrew word for crab is composed of two words that literally mean "remove the Body". Can't get much more of an illustration of the rapture than that. But it is even deeper, you remove the outer shell to reveal the soul. What happens at the rapture, God reveals who the faithful ones are. The rapture reveals a whole lot, who was true and who was a liar. Who was faithful and who wasn't. Who the Lord knew and who He didn't know.

The crab is an animal that renews itself. It will exchange it's old armor for new armor. This is another picture of the rapture. The saints that are taken are the armor for the crab. They are the prayer warriors, the worship leaders, the light and the salt, the ones with the sword of the Spirit. When they leave what happens? Those who are left behind need to become the new armor.
 

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This is the month of a new beginning -- 8

The letter associated with this month is equivalent to the number 8. The number 8 means new beginning. The rapture is a new beginning. It will be a new beginning for those who are raptured and it will be a new beginning for those who are left behind.

1Peter 3:20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.

It is interesting that eight souls are saved and Tammuz is associated with the number 8.

This month is an opportune time to restore good to its predestined pure status. We have been hearing many prophecies concerning cities being bombed, burned, flooded and destroyed. These are warnings, get out, just like Lot was warned. Why is the Lord doing this? Because it is an opportunity to restore the earth to its predestined pure status. A lot of evil things will have to be burned up and destroyed first. Last month God brought the reversal and now it is our turn to respond to God to bring the reversal as well.
 

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This month is dedicated to exalting the name of God

The gematria of this month is the same as "great, holy". Both equal 453. This month was dedicated for God's name to be truly exalted and sanctified in this world through the word of God. The reason the temple's destruction began during this month was because the tablets were destroyed during this month. The word of God will result in an indestructible temple, not the word written on stone but the covenant written on our heart. God preordained that this month is the time to build the tabernacle.

Tammuz is an acronym -- "you our king be magnified and sanctified"

This month is our opportunity to rebuild the temple. This month is associated with the prophet Haggai.

Haggai 2:9 The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the Lord of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the Lord of hosts.

The birth of Joseph took place in this month, a symbol of Jesus Christ, Savior of the World (Zaph Naph Paaneah). His bones are taken up and brought into the good land signifying the dead in Christ rise first. Another reference to the rapture and the tribulation.