Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

If you are insulted because of the name of Christ you are blessed.

1Peter 4:12 Dear friends, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal that has come on you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you. 13 But rejoice inasmuch as you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed.

Right now we can see that the Lord's glory is about to be revealed to the whole world and that at that time we will be able to be overjoyed since we have been ridiculed, slandered, and mocked for preaching Jesus.

14 If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.

How about that, If you are insulted because of the name of Christ you are blessed.

15 If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler. 16 However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.

We are not supposed to even be meddlers. The people arrested on Jan 6th were not murderers or thiefs or any other kind of criminal, but they were meddlers. It means they meddled in other men's affairs. Protesting the government steps up to the line for people who are ambassadors of the kingdom, but entering the Capitol building clearly crossed that line.

17 For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?

Think about that if you don't think there is a hell. Look at how the people who trespassed in the Capitol building are being punished. Now if that is the punishment for trespassing, imagine what will happen to murderers, thieves and adulterers?

18 And, “If it is hard for the righteous to be saved,
what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?”[a]
19 So then, those who suffer according to God’s will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.

For He has made Him who knew no sin to be made sin for us that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him

The word of God

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, refreshing the soul.

Do you need to be refreshed, turn to the word of God.

The statutes of the Lord are trustworthy, making wise the simple.

Do you need to be made wise? The word of God will make you wise.

8 The precepts of the Lord are right, giving joy to the heart.

Do you need joy for your heart? Turn to the word of God.

The commands of the Lord are radiant, giving light to the eyes.

Do you need to see clearly? Read the word of God.

9 The fear of the Lord is pure, enduring forever.

Do you need something that will endure forever?

The decrees of the Lord are firm, and all of them are righteous.

How would you like to be able to discern righteous judgments?

Isaiah 2:12-22 A Day of Reckoning Coming

12 For the Lord of hosts will have a day of reckoning Against all who are proud and arrogant And against all who are lifted up, That they may be degraded.

Who thinks like this? I would think the reckoning would be against those who are corrupt, those who take bribes, those who lie, those who sell out the country, those who operate deceitfully, those involved in trafficking, etc. But what is it that all of them have in common? They are proud, arrogant and lifted up. To set aside the law of God you must be proud, arrogant and lifted up. This is becoming very obvious today with them blatantly doing things like Hunter Biden’s fraud selling his paintings. They are crooks, the whole world can see they are crooks and they don’t care. Why? Because they control the DOJ. They are proud, arrogant and lifted up. They are setting aside the first amendment, they are committing election fraud, they are opening our borders to criminals, everything they are doing is in your face, we are crooks, we don’t care that you know we are crooks, and we will do whatever we want and there is nothing you can do about it. The Mohave board of elections was forced to certify the election under threat of being arrested for a felony. So despite being aware of many violations of election law they were afraid to take issue with them. The fundamental issue is not the individual crimes, the fundamental issue is they are thumbing their nose to God, they are in open rebellion.

13 And the wrath of God will be against all the cedars of Lebanon [west of the Jordan] that are high and lifted up, Against all the oaks of Bashan [east of the Jordan], 14 Against all the high mountains, Against all the hills that are lifted up, 15 Against every high tower, Against every fortified wall, 16 Against all the ships of Tarshish And against all the beautiful craft.

What a combination or coalition. Generally we think of Cedars and Oaks as very good wood, people of the highest credentials. The experts, the talking heads, the ones who get to say what the “official” position is. The fact checkers. The high mountains and hills would be in contrast to the Bible. These are your philosophers whether they are socialists, or economic theory, or whatever. The high towers we generally call the Ivory tower, the ones who came up with Critical Race Theory and are trying to turn the US into a socialist nation. The fortified walls are the censors, the ones who are able to keep out any opposing viewpoints. All of this is to support the ships of Tarshish, the international trade. It is a global economy, a single currency, one world government, and one world religion. There are a lot of things they want to get rid of. They like dictators, just tell one person what you want done, it is simple. They like monopolies, that is how you get rich and don't have to worry about "the customer always being right". This means they have to destroy democracy, they have to destroy free press, they have to destroy the church.

17 Then the pride of man will be humbled And the arrogance of men will be degraded; The Lord alone shall be exalted in that day, 18 And the idols will completely vanish (be abolished).

There will be some events that take place that completely humble this one world government that the elites are pushing. The idols refer to the currency, the money. The mark of the beast is the ultimate idol.

19 They [the stricken, deprived of all in which they had trusted] will go into the caves of the rocks And into the holes of the ground [fleeing] From the terror and dread of the Lord And from the splendor of His majesty, When He arises to terrify the earth.

Why would you hide in the holes in the ground? Is it nuclear radiation and fallout? Did a supernova burn up our ozone layer so that the sun will give everyone skin cancer and cause you to go blind? Whatever it is they are afraid of we do know they have built underground military bases, 130 in the US, and Russia, China and Europe have done the same.

20 In that day men will throw away to the moles and to the bats Their idols of silver and their idols of gold, Which they made for themselves [as objects] to worship, 21 To go into the caverns of the rocks and into the clefts of the [ragged] cliffs [as they flee] From the terror and dread of the Lord and the splendor of His majesty, When He arises to terrify the earth.

If we had such a terrifying worldwide event it would cause the global economy to collapse and the currency to become worthless. This is a very clear prophecy that during the day of the Lord they flee into caverns in the rock, underground caves.

22 Stop regarding man, whose breath [of life] is in his nostrils [for so little time]; For why should he be esteemed?

Really, there are many who believe the Bible, believe these prophecies, see the coming doom and then go and talk about being a prepper, or investing in gold, or some other nonsense. Invest in the kingdom of the heavens where there is no rust and there are no thieves.

If the Tribulation Started, we Should See – Part 2 - 11/29/2022

https://rumble.com/v1xs8q4-if-the-tribulation-started-we-should-see-part-2-11292022.html

FTGC-07c I WILL NOT FEAR--EXPERIENCING GOD WHEN YOUR FEARS SURROUND YOU

Jeremiah 4:1-9 -- What to do if you are left behind

The Lord said that no one knows the day or the hour, many believers take that to mean that we can ignore this since no one knows the day or the hour. However, the Lord says that because you don't know the day or the hour you need to watch and he gives three illustrations: a pregnant woman, a farmer prior to the harvest, and the bride in a Jewish wedding. A pregnant woman does not know the day or the hour that she will give birth, therefore she needs to watch. She should be going to the doctor, arranging for the birth, planning, etc. A woman who did not do this would be considered a very irresponsible mother. Second, a farmer does not know the day or the hour that they will reap the harvest. As a result he must carefully inspect his crops everyday while also watching the weather report and preparing. He might need to rent harvesters and hire extra laborers. Finally, the bride in a Jewish wedding doesn't know the day or the hour, her betrothed is building a house (or spare room) for them to live in. He needs to prepare that before he can come and take the bride. But just because she doesn't know the day or the hour doesn't mean she can't visit him with lemonade or a sandwich while he works and see for herself. She can get a very good idea of when it will be finished if she is visiting him regularly. If your bride didn't care enough to do that you would think she really doesn't love you or care about you.

1 “If you, Israel, will return, then return to me,” declares the Lord. “If you put your detestable idols out of my sight and no longer go astray,

Many want to know what they should be doing to prepare to meet God. First, get rid of the detestable idols. I discussed this a little when I talked about the frogs in Exodus 8. Also, know that money is a “graven image”. It is made out of wood (paper money) and it is a molten image (coins). This call to return or to repent is how the Gospel of Mark begins. The thought is that Luke presents the gospel to those who are taken prior to the tribulation and Mark presents the gospel to those who are left behind. The tribulation will divide those who put their trust in Jesus from those who trust in money, or their bunker, or position, power, etc.

2 and if in a truthful, just and righteous way you swear, ‘As surely as the Lord lives,’ then the nations will invoke blessings by him and in him they will boast.”

Walk according to the truth (word of God), in a just and righteous way (the Lord’s commandment to do unto others as you would have them do unto you). Boast in the Lord, rejoice in Him, praise Him, testify of His goodness.

3 This is what the Lord says to the people of Judah and to Jerusalem: “Break up your unplowed ground and do not sow among thorns.

In the gospels the Lord let us know He was talking about our heart. If our heart is consumed with the world it is like thorns choking the word of God. Do not sow the word of God among the thorns.

4 Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, circumcise your hearts, you people of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem, or my wrath will flare up and burn like fire because of the evil you have done—burn with no one to quench it.

Circumcision was the sign that we have a covenant with God. A wedding ring signifies you have a marriage covenant, circumcision signifies we have a covenant with God. In the New Testament the cross of Christ is the sign that we have a covenant with God, it is the New Testament “circumcision” and it is on our hearts. You need to apply the cross of Christ to your hearts or you will invoke the wrath of God. This covenant with God "scars us". The election in Arizona was crooked. They had witnesses at every polling place testifying to this. Yet the Mohave election commission said that they were certifying it because they were being threatened with a felony. If you are going to stand for the Lord you will bear the scars, this is what it means to "circumcise yourselves to the Lord".

5 “Announce in Judah and proclaim in Jerusalem and say: ‘Sound the trumpet throughout the land!’ Cry aloud and say: ‘Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities!’ 6 Raise the signal to go to Zion! Flee for safety without delay! For I am bringing disaster from the north, even terrible destruction.”

There are two possible references here. We know that the high holy days are a shadow of things to come, that the first four feasts were key events in the beginning of this age (Passover -- crucifixion of Jesus, Feast of unleavened bread -- burial of Jesus, Feast of the first fruits -- resurrection of Jesus, and Pentecost -- birth of the church). The sound of the trumpet can be both an alarm and a sound of rejoicing. The idea is that at the rapture it will be a sound of rejoicing for those who are raptured, whereas for those who are left behind it will be a sound of alarm. This chapter is dealing with those who are left behind. This isn't a reference to the pandemic, this is a reference to the need to flee. After the first rapture you will have chaos, anarchy. In a situation like that it will be much scarier than it is today. Already we can see videos in large cities that are scary, imagine if you remove all those Christians who would step into the gap to help someone being attacked. Right now the evil and wicked are outnumbered and are scared of the light. After the first rapture that will change. If you can't see that terrible destruction is coming upon these cities today, you will be able to see it then.

7 A lion has come out of his lair; a destroyer of nations has set out. He has left his place to lay waste your land. Your towns will lie in ruins without inhabitant.

There have been several prophetic visions concerning this. First, it appears that China will have a terrible flood, their harvest will be devastated resulting in a famine. This will cause them to go to war, and before they can do that they need to take out the US. Other prophecies say Russia will do that by setting off EMP devices strategically placed to cause the US power grid to collapse. Also, once the rapture takes place the man of lawlessness will be revealed and the “riots” you have been watching will roar to life blazing with violence, bloodshed, looting, and terror. One man died and the entire country was filled with violent rioting in the streets in the US. Eleven people died in a fire in China and the entire country erupted into protests. Imagine what this event will do, it will take it to a whole new level.

8 So put on sackcloth, lament and wail, for the fierce anger of the Lord has not turned away from us.

This is the seven years of the tribulation. The goal for all those who believe in the Lord Jesus and confess His name is that they will be taken by Him in three and half years. This is a time to convince God that you belong in the book of life. It is a little confusing so let me try and explain all these dates as simply as I can. September 21-22 in 2017 was the Festival of Trumpets. On September 23rd 2017 the great heavenly sign of the woman crowned with 12 stars, clothed with the sun and with the moon beneath her feet travailing to give birth was seen in the heavens. This was the sign spoken of by John in Revelation 12, the last time it appeared in the heavens was 3915 BC and was prophetic that the seed of the woman would crush the serpent's head. That is the first prophecy concerning Jesus. Revelation begins with Jesus saying “He is the first and the last, the alpha and the omega”. It is interesting that this sign would appear at the beginning and then again at the end. It did not appear on the day of the Feast of Trumpets but immediately after. Signs appear on the highway before you get to the exit.

9 “In that day,” declares the Lord, “the king and the officials will lose heart, the priests will be horrified, and the prophets will be appalled.”

The people who run the country fall into three groups. The president would be viewed as the king, the CDC would be seen as the priests, and the press would be seen as the prophets.

Harvest

Proverbs -- 7 verses

6:6 Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
7 It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
8 yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.

We are told at the Lord's return there will be those who have filled their vessels with oil and those who haven't. The church age, two thousand years, have been a wonderful opportunity to fill your vessel with oil. We have wonderful hymns, wonderful biographies, wonder fellowship from the apostles, youtube filled with dreams and visions and exegesis. You have to be a complete sluggard to not fill your vessel with oil.

10:5 He who gathers crops in summer is a prudent son, but he who sleeps during harvest is a disgraceful son.

This is the harvest time. Any believer who is sleeping now and not gathering crops is a disgraceful son. There should be millions of Christians filling the airwaves, filling youtube and forums and social media with the word.

14:4 Where there are no oxen, the manger is empty, but from the strength of an ox come abundant harvests.

It amazes me when you hear people going on and on about trivial issues. Did Trump tweet mean tweets? Yes. But was he like an ox bringing in abundant harvests? Yes. Did we have to clean up after Trump? Yes. Only an idiot would choose Biden over Trump, stop complaining over trivial matters. There will be no "perfect" saint. They all poop. They all make a mess. Yes, everyday you have to clean up after them, but you try and plant and harvest crops without an ox.

18:20 From the fruit of their mouth a person’s stomach is filled;
with the harvest of their lips they are satisfied.
21 The tongue has the power of life and death,
and those who love it will eat its fruit.

We are called to be witnesses. We are given the promise that out of our innermost being will flow rivers of living water. So say amen and prove the Lord.

20:4 Sluggards do not plow in season; so at harvest time they look but find nothing.

Again, reminds me of the foolish virgins asking the others to give them some of their oil. It is like the kid who wants to copy your homework.

25:13 Like a snow-cooled drink at harvest time is a trustworthy messenger to the one who sends him; he refreshes the spirit of his master.

This is the harvest time, we are the messengers of the Lord. Be a trustworthy messenger. Be someone who refreshes the Lord's spirit.

26:1 Like snow in summer or rain in harvest, honor is not fitting for a fool.

My daughter's grade point average put her 2nd in her graduating class. She told me that she could never catch #1 because this girl would always be sick on test days and then question kids about what was on the test. I told her that if she knew this girl was a cheat so did the rest of the school, you don't need to worry about her. Sure enough she decided to graduate early rather than be the "valedictorian" in front of two thousand people who all know she is a liar and a cheat. What a fool, she never considered the end game of what she was doing.

Reasons why some say Tribulation has Started 11/30/2022

https://rumble.com/v1y0eu6-reasons-why-some-say-tribulation-has-started-11302022.html

Jeremiah 4:10-31 How completely you have deceived this people

10 Then I said, “Alas, Sovereign Lord! How completely you have deceived this people and Jerusalem by saying, ‘You will have peace,’ when the sword is at our throats!”

You may remember that a peace treaty promising a period of economic prosperity was just signed in Washington D.C. with Israel, UAE and Bahrain on September 15th. During the commonwealth games Prince Charles presided over a ceremony mimicking the worship of the Moloch Bull where he gets a scroll from the Queen to bless the proceedings. It was an imitation of Moses giving the ten commandments to the people. Then at the time of the G20 they smashed the ten commandments and came up with man's ten commandments. By this time "prince" Charles had become King Charles.

11 At that time this people and Jerusalem will be told, “A scorching wind from the barren heights in the desert blows toward my people, but not to winnow or cleanse; 12 a wind too strong for that comes from me. Now I pronounce my judgments against them.”

So China and Russia will attack Israel, most likely after a preemptive attack on the US. Prior to the first rapture we had a wind for winnowing, to separate the chaff from the wheat. But now this wind is too strong for that. There have been about 11 different prophecies from different ones seeing that 911 was the first attack, the second will be much more severe on the US and the third is when the UN takes over the running of the US.

13 Look! He advances like the clouds, his chariots come like a whirlwind, his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us! We are ruined! 14 Jerusalem, wash the evil from your heart and be saved. How long will you harbor wicked thoughts?

The peace treaty was all about Jerusalem, it recognized Jerusalem as being under the jurisdiction of Israel. This is the winds of war. We don't need the Bible to tell us how bad and destructive a war today would be. We know the missiles are hypersonic, faster than horses, and we know that such an attack would cause the US to be ruined as well as the entire world economic system.

15 A voice is announcing from Dan, proclaiming disaster from the hills of Ephraim. 16 “Tell this to the nations, proclaim concerning Jerusalem: ‘A besieging army is coming from a distant land, raising a war cry against the cities of Judah. 17 They surround her like men guarding a field, because she has rebelled against me,’” declares the Lord.

The problem is they rebelled against the Lord. Humble yourself, repent of your rebellion. Turn to Jesus, call on His name, for that is where your salvation is. Do not trust in yourself, do not trust in man. The distant land according to various prophecies refers to Russia, Iran, N. Korea, and a few other countries from which Russia is set to attack.

18 “Your own conduct and actions have brought this on you. This is your punishment. How bitter it is! How it pierces to the heart!”

Repent! Confess your sins and Repent! Our CIA, our government has brought this intense hatred from the rest of the world on us. Our profligate spending, robbing all who loaned to us is causing this hatred.

19 Oh, my anguish, my anguish! I writhe in pain. Oh, the agony of my heart! My heart pounds within me, I cannot keep silent. For I have heard the sound of the trumpet; I have heard the battle cry.

The rapture takes place at the sound of the Trumpet. But that sound is also the sound of an alarm. It signals the beginning of the tribulation.

20 Disaster follows disaster; the whole land lies in ruins. In an instant my tents are destroyed, my shelter in a moment.

The rapture takes place in a moment, in an instant. Another meaning of rapture is when the water breaks for a woman who is giving birth. The birth canal where the baby is looks like “3 gorges”. We are told that when the woman gives birth in Revelation 12 that the great dragon will unleash a great flood to wash her away. I suspect that refers to the collapse of the 3 Gorges Dam in China. That disaster will lead to others like China setting off EMPs in the US to wipe out our electricity and cause our tents and shelter to be destroyed in a moment. We know from the prophecies that the world's currency will collapse and they will take draconian measures to enforce a new world currency. All of this chaos will take place in the midst of a global pandemic. Economic collapse, famine, plague and War. Based on Ezekiel 38 the thought is that an attack on Israel to gain control of the Middle East begins with an attack on the US to destroy the petrol dollar.

21 How long must I see the battle standard and hear the sound of the trumpet? 22 “My people are fools; they do not know me. They are senseless children; they have no understanding. They are skilled in doing evil; they know not how to do good.”

This is reminiscent of the Lord’s word concerning the foolish virgins. They were awoken by the sound of the trumpet and the call that the Bridegroom comes. But they were foolish, they didn’t fill their vessel with oil, with the spirit, with the living word of God. As a result they were senseless, no understanding, no knowledge of how to do good. This reminds me of riding a horse or sailing a boat. Everything can seem easy and simple until the minute you lose control and then it is chaos and catastrophe.

23 I looked at the earth, and it was formless and empty; and at the heavens, and their light was gone. 24 I looked at the mountains, and they were quaking; all the hills were swaying. 25 I looked, and there were no people; every bird in the sky had flown away. 26 I looked, and the fruitful land was a desert; all its towns lay in ruins before the Lord, before his fierce anger.

The call was to “behold the Bridegroom” But the foolish virgins are those who were distracted beholding everything but the Lord. The wise virgins are those whose eyes are firmly set on Him. Apparently this attack on the US begins with suitcase bombs being set off in our major cities: NYC, Washington DC, Boston, Chicago, Houston, Miami, LA, etc.

27 This is what the Lord says: “The whole land will be ruined, though I will not destroy it completely. 28 Therefore the earth will mourn and the heavens above grow dark, because I have spoken and will not relent, I have decided and will not turn back.” 29 At the sound of horsemen and archers every town takes to flight. Some go into the thickets; some climb up among the rocks. All the towns are deserted; no one lives in them. 30 What are you doing, you devastated one? Why dress yourself in scarlet and put on jewels of gold? Why highlight your eyes with makeup? You adorn yourself in vain. Your lovers despise you; they want to kill you.

Many Christians and many pastors and many churches sold themselves to the world like a harlot. Revelation 17 and 18 refer to this. The Lord’s wrath will burn with fire towards them. Everyone will know that the rapture of the believers has caused a collapse of society, so they will hate those who are left behind yet have the name of Christian. Those who are nominal Christians.

31 I hear a cry as of a woman in labor, a groan as of one bearing her first child—the cry of Daughter Zion gasping for breath, stretching out her hands and saying, “Alas! I am fainting; my life is given over to murderers.”

The analogy here is to two groups. The child she gives birth to is called “the man child” and he is caught up to heaven. He represents the raptured saints. The woman represents God’s people who are left on earth.

https://rumble.com/v1y3uwu-has-the-first-seal-opened-10052021.html

Has the First Seal Opened? 10/05/2021

There are people saying that for the last fifty years there have been many false prophecies about the end of the age. That is fine, that is a fulfillment of prophecy and in the Bible we have a more sure word of prophecy. That is not a valid reason to ignore the prophecies or the watchmen.

You are supposed to have watchmen on the wall and they are supposed to let you know when the prophecies are being fulfilled.

Isaiah 21:6 For thus the Lord says to me, “Go, station the lookout, let him report what he sees.

The prophecies are like a trumpet call.

Jeremiah 6:17

“And I set watchmen over you, saying,
‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’
But they said, ‘We will not listen.’

You will be judged on how you respond. You can listen or you can refuse to listen, but whatever you do you will be judged by your actions.

Isaiah 62:6

On your walls, O Jerusalem, I have appointed watchmen;
All day and all night they will never keep silent.
You who remind the Lord, take no rest for yourselves;

Ezekiel 3:17

“Son of man, I have appointed you a watchman to the house of Israel; whenever you hear a word from My mouth, warn them from Me.

Ezekiel 33:6

But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require from the watchman’s hand.’

I don't care if you receive the warning or not, that is between you and God. As long as I am faithful to the Lord to speak what I am told, then that is all I am responsible for. If someone heeds the warning then that is great, but if someone rejects the warning that also is helpful on the day of judgement.

This message makes it very clear how important Bible interpretation is to understanding the prophecies.

Is the rider on the White horse a reference to Jesus, the Christ or to the AntiChrist? Is it talking about the gospel which went forth at the beginning of this age or is it talking about the deceit and claims of "peace and security" when what we really get is war, plague and famine?

Stan argues that this is not the antichrist because God does not give Satan a crown. However, other teachers say that this crown is like all the ribbons dictators will wear to give the appearance they are mighty men in battle.

This interpretation is critical, because is the start of the tribulation about the revelation of the Antichrist? Or is it about the gospel? If this white horse indicates the gospel going forth then you can see why many are expecting to see a great revival. If this is about the Antichrist going forth you can see why many are expecting to see the antichrist.

My opinion is that this is the antichrist, which means counterfeit Christ and that is why it is hard for many to distinguish the two. However, this is just an opinion and it is obvious that many people will have to adjust their opinions once the prophesies are fulfilled. Stan has been in this study for over 40 years and so I think it is very important to hear him out and consider his opinion on this matter.

Also, please note he has republished this from last year. It has lots of good information, but this is what he was saying in October of 2021

Understand the Tribulation – IMPORTANT - 12/01/2022

https://rumble.com/v1y8d9u-understand-the-tribulation-important-12012022.html

He is 99.5% there where he will say we are in the tribulation.

Revelation 3:3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.

This word translated as "hour" means a definite point of time or moment.

2Timothy 4:8 Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing.

I think this "crown" will refer to knowing the definite point of time of the Lord's return. Noah was given a seven day warning and Lot was given a few hours warning. So then since we are told it will be like the days of Noah and like the days of Lot and since we have these words in the NT about knowing the hour I believe that for those who are watching attentively we will know the hour.

Now there are two different interpretations about the rapture but they are the same in many ways.

There is the pre trib rapture which suggests a small portion of the Lord's people will be raptured, think Joseph in the book of Genesis. Did Joseph escape "tribulation"? No, he was slandered, sold as a slave, imprisoned and left for dead. Coming out of the prison was very close to coming out of the grave. I would say he represents the "pre trib" rapture.

The other interpretation is that the believers will have to go through the tribulation. Actually all pre trib interpretations agree with that as well. However, the believers will be marked out and protected and of course many will be martyred.

Pre Trib?

I subscribe to the pre trib rapture and yet I agree with Stan's understanding even though he does not subscribe to the pre trib rapture. Stan says everyone must go through tribulation, I agree. However, I think some (about 8% of genuine believers) will go through tribulation prior to this 7 year period. There is nothing in the Bible which says that the tribulation is seven years long or that it is an interchangeable term for the 70th week in Daniel.