Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Christmas -- January 6th

Originally Jesus birth was celebrated by the church on January 6th of the Julian calendar. However, one Pope switched it to December 25th about 400 years later to take the place of a pagan holiday. Still today we have 12% of the Christians still celebrating Jesus birth on January 6th, which is interesting because I estimate that 12% of Christians will be raptured.

An appointed time


God is the same today, yesterday and forever. Big events had dress rehearsals on appointed days. Jesus crucifixion, death, burial and resurrection are all examples. I also think that the ascension took place on Shavuot as a fourth appointed time. Of course the spirit was poured out on Pentecost which I think is the feast of new wine. Therefore one would think the rapture would also take place on an appointed time.

The watchmen look at the feasts in the Old Covenant but that does not make sense to me. Jesus has two brides, the Gentile bride and the Jewish bride. It doesn't make sense that the Gentile bride would be raptured on a date for the Jewish bride. This is one reason why I don't think Pentecost is Shavuot, but rather the feast of new wine.

The Lord's table is a dress rehearsal for our wedding feast and also for the rapture. To me this confirms that God is the same yesterday, today and forever.

No one knows the day

In the gospels Jesus said "no one knows the day". That tells me that two thousand years ago the day was not in the Bible, it was not in major prophetic books like the book of Enoch. However, it is interesting that the one day that no one knows is Jesus birth. We celebrate His birth on Christmas while also admitting we do not know the day.

The rapture is likened to another birth, the birth of the man child. I suspect that Jesus was born on the Feast of tabernacles and circumcised on the 8th day of that feast. If that is true then we already have a festival where we celebrate Jesus tabernacling with us, so then Christmas could refer to the birth of the manchild.

The day of the Lord is coming "as a thief in the night"

Christmas is a holiday which celebrates a magical Satanic figure called "Santa" coming as a thief in the night. Jesus is not a thief, and Santa is a strange thief who leaves presents. The grinch is a story about a person who wanted to steal Christmas and learned that Christmas was the spirit of faith, hope and love. This is what will be stolen when the Lord raptures the saints, the spirit of faith, hope and love. The Lord describes this afterwards as their will be a famine for the word of God.

Establishing a festival for gift giving

Psalm 68:18 You have ascended on high, You have led captivity captive; You have received gifts among men, Even from the rebellious, That the Lord God might dwell there.

This verse is quoted by Paul in Ephesians.

Therefore He says: “When He ascended on high, He led captivity captive, And gave gifts to men.”

The picture is this, Jesus was incarnated as the babe of Bethlehem, He went to war with Satan, the flesh, sin, and even death. He conquered and then when He ascended to the Heavens He led all those who had been taken captive by Satan, He led "captivity" captive. In those ancient days when the conquering general returns from war with a long string of captives and all the loot they present this to the ruler of the country as a gift. Jesus presented all those He was leading as a gift to God the Father who then, through the Holy Spirit distributed these gifts to the Body of Christ on earth. We see 3,000 saved and 5,000 saved and we see the church age begin. The cycle repeats. The Body of Christ is built up by all the joints and bands of supply, the gifts to the Body, and the Body of Christ which is the church goes to war with Satan, the flesh, sin, and even death. Then, when they conquer they ascend to heaven in the rapture. But not everyone is taken, most are left behind. However, according to this cycle you will have a long train of captivity being led captive and they will be presented as a gift to God and He will distribute these gifts through the Holy Spirit to men. We then hear that during the tribulation there will be great revivals, greater than anything in human history. These will be the greater works that Jesus said we would do. Then after three and a half years these ones also are either martyred or raptured. There is a beautiful symmetry, 2,000 years from Abraham to Jesus, 2,000 years, a three and a half year ministry of Jesus, from Jesus to this first rapture is 2,000 years and then that is followed by another 3 1/2 year ministry.

He will come in like manner as you saw Him go

Acts 1:11 who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”

This is what we are told in Acts, we are witnessing a cycle that will repeat. Now we celebrate births with gift giving, but there is only one day of the year where the entire Christian community celebrates by gift giving.

In the evening we celebrate the birth of Jesus, then in the morning we celebrate gifts that have appeared in the night.

Now there are two different groups of people and two different celebrations of this same event. There is really nothing else like that. You have people in the world, unbelievers, who will go out to a Christmas party, drink, behave in their flesh at night, and then in the morning also celebrate with gifts. You do not see this with any other holy day in any other religion that the believers have their celebration and the unbelievers have a mirror image of that celebration like the photographic negative. However, the bible talks about this referring to the "antichrist" which means a counterfeit Christ. The word literally means "instead of Christ". That is precisely what the world is doing in their celebration of Christmas. Santa is instead of Christ.

We are also told that the rapture of the saints is when the restrainer steps aside and at the same time that takes place the antichrist is revealed.

A Holiday that has both the birth of the manchild and the revelation of the Antichrist

2Thessalonians 2:6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed

Now suppose you are in the apostasy. You believe in Jesus but you have been carried away with the materialism and you are left behind at the rapture. You will wake up in the morning and instead of the hope of glory you will have some packages under your Babylonian tree. How are you going to feel? Cheated? Let's make it even worse, suppose this happens on January 6th and you realize that the Catholic church changed the holiday to a pagan holiday and deceived you all this time with December 25th. It would cause the onus of the apostasy to fall even harder on the Catholic church.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit

You were taken captive by the devil to do his will. People who are left behind will wake up to realize this.

2Timothy 2:24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

So what is revealed on this day is who was taken captive. But once again, just as in the ascension of the Lord, the gifts are poured out, and Jesus will lead captivity captive during the tribulation.
 

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Christmas -- January 6th continued

One issue we had with Christmas was that Proverbs indicates the Lord's return is on a full moon and the apostate church knows this. So then, if the Orthodox Catholic church is celebrating Christmas on January 6th, a full moon (the appointed day), and they knew this was the day of the birth of the Man Child and Christ's return, it would fulfill this prophecy.

Your solemn Feasts

Malachi 2:1 “And now, O priests, this commandment is for you. 2 If you will not hear, And if you will not take it to heart, To give glory to My name,” Says the Lord of hosts, “I will send a curse upon you, And I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have cursed them already, Because you do not take it to heart. 3 “Behold, I will rebuke your descendants And spread refuse on your faces, The refuse of your solemn feasts; And one will take you away with it.

This is a curse on the priests who will not hear the word of the prophets and will not take it to heart.

Verse 3 -- "rebuke your descendants" has the meaning of corrupt your seed.

The word for refuse is dung. So the animals that were sacrificed at these feasts were not acceptable to God and so by spreading the dung on their faces He expresses the utmost disgust with them and shame to them.

To take them away with the dung indicates that God will treat these priests like He would a pile of dung. As you have done it will be done unto you. These priests have treated God's word and His prophets as dung so it is righteous that they should be treated as they have treated Him.

The apostate church has several solemn feasts, but to my observation Christmas is the main one. These churches will sacrifice a great deal for this feast with their Christmas play, children's play, the decorations, and their candlelight service.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

Now the watchmen are very big into the calendar from the Old Testament. But that calendar was part of the Old Covenant. When Jesus was crucified that covenant was cut off and we have a new covenant. I believe this is of God. You can't keep that calendar, the whole world must keep this new calendar. I believe that also is of God. Jesus is Lord, all things are under His sovereignty, so this calendar and the Lord's day is also under His sovereignty. So although I appreciate the deep dive into the Old Testament calendar I also feel that the rapture will not be part of the Old Covenant appointed days but part of the New Covenant.

36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.

To me what this verse is saying is not that no one will know, but that at the time of Jesus speaking to the apostles no one "knew". It isn't reasonable to say that no one would know because Jesus said that not knowing the day and hour was the punishment to those in Sardis.

Revelation 3:3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.

There is nothing in the NT that says Jesus won't tell us, only that if we are not watching we won't know. Taken together I believe this is telling us that the rapture will be a NT day, a day not mentioned in the OT, and a day that had not yet been revealed to the apostles, but a day that would be revealed to those who were watching for His return prior to that return.

Luke 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

This is interesting. If you looked at all this like I have and concluded that you think Christmas is the day you would assume December 25th. January 6th is "the hour that you think not". Many forget that January 6th is the original day chosen.

The Great Delusion for those that hate the truth

However, we also know that after the rapture the Antichrist is revealed. There is nothing in the NT or OT that says no one will know the day that the antichrist is revealed, so instead of focusing on the rapture why not ask yourself what would be the big day for the Antichrist to be revealed. When you ask about the Antichrist you are immediately brought to our two major Christian holidays: Christmas and Easter. They both have very strong links to Babylonian worship. But of the two Christmas is clearly tied to the Antichrist (it is the birthday of a Babylonian god who prefigures the antichrist). Santa in his red suit is a figure of Satan. The magical elves are a figure of the fallen angels. The distribution of gifts throughout the entire earth in a single night is a mockery of the rapture. Coming down the chimney in the middle of the night is "like a thief in the night". The letter to Santa teaches children to have materialistic prayers and to worship materialism. Even though the world and Hollywood mock Jesus they worship Christmas, another indication that his is the worship of the Antichrist. "You better watch out because Santa Claus is watching you and knows when you have been bad or good" is a direct reference to the social credit score and mark of the beast that the Antichrist will bring in. This is not new, many Christians know this, they know Jesus was not born on Christmas day and so they don't want to celebrate this holiday. However, if you don't celebrate Christmas you are "the grinch" or you are "the scrooge", your heart is too small, you hate little crippled kids, and they put maximum pressure on you to celebrate this with your kids. When you celebrate this what do they do? They label gifts as being from "Santa", the parents pretend that Santa magically came in the middle of the night while they were sleeping. In other words they celebrate this holiday with a lie and they take the people that kids trust, their parents, to spread this lie, and then when kids grow up they learn the truth and they learn not to trust their parents. The idea is to associate this lie with the Bible even though this entire story is not in the Bible. "No lie is of the truth". This holiday is a big, giant celebration of a lie. Christmas is a great delusion given by God to those who do not love the truth. How will you feel if one day you wake up on Christmas morning and learn you have exchanged the Christ of glory for some junk from the mall? You would feel like you were robbed. Why? You knew that the entire thing was a big delusion but for some reason you embraced the lie and rejected the truth.

Therefore I think that Christmas day is the best day to reveal the antichrist, the best day for those who are left behind to understand why. Not only so but there are two possible "Christmas day's" and I think the Orthodox Christian day is the better of the two to expose the apostasy of the christians.

Amos 8:10 I will turn your feasts into mourning, And all your songs into lamentation; I will bring sackcloth on every waist, And baldness on every head; I will make it like mourning for an only son, And its end like a bitter day.


What celebration do the Christians have that are filled with joyful songs that will be turned to lamentation? We don't have Easter carols. We have Christmas parties (feasts) and Christmas carols. If the rapture takes place at the Christmas season then the feasts would be turned to mourning and the carols to lamentation. At the time of the Apostles there were no Christmas carols, there were no Christmas feasts. So then it makes perfect sense the Lord would tell them that no on knows the day or the hour.

So then it seems to me the ideal time to reveal the antichrist and expose the apostasy is during the Christmas season. It also seems to me that it is reasonable that the believers would know the day and hour if they have been watching and waiting and listening to the Lord.

However, there is another side to Christmas, that is Christmas eve. I will discuss that in the next post.
 

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Christmas -- January 6th continued

I will turn your Christmas carols into lamentation

Amos 8:10 I will turn your feasts into mourning, And all your songs into lamentation; I will bring sackcloth on every waist, And baldness on every head; I will make it like mourning for an only son, And its end like a bitter day.

I have taken some verses from Christmas carols, let's see if you were sitting here after the rapture, you have been left behind, would these songs become lamentations?

Joy to the world, the Lord has come. -- ouch!

Lete earth receive her king. Let every heart prepare Him room -- ouch!

How about this one.

Then rang the bells more loud and deep, God is not dead, nor does he sleep (peace on earth, peace on earth), The wrong shall fail, the right prevail -- ouch!

Bless all the dear children, In Thy tender care, And take us to Heaven, To live with Thee there

I heard that at the rapture all the babies under 2 will be taken.

Mild He lays His Glory by

Born that man no more may die

Born to raise the sons of earth

Born to give them second birth

Hark! the herald angels sing

Glory to the new-born King


All these songs told you what was coming and you didn't believe. That has to hurt.

O come, O come, Emmanuel, And ransom captive Israel, That mourns in lonely exile here, Until the Son of God appear

[Refrain]

Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel, Shall come to thee, O Israel


He came, you missed it. He told you He would come and you didn't believe Him.

O come, Thou Rod of Jesse, free, Thine own from Satan’s tyranny, From depths of Hell Thy people save, And give them victory o’er the grave

If you had believed him you would have had victory over the grave, but now you are going to go through the depths of hell and be subject to Satan's tyranny.

O come, Thou Key of David, come, And open wide our heavenly home, Make safe the way that leads on high, And close the path to misery

Yes, this carol will be a lamentation.

O holy night! The stars are brightly shining, It is the night of our dear Saviour’s birth. Long lay the world in sin and error pining, Till He appear’d and the soul felt its worth.

A thrill of hope, the weary world rejoices, For yonder breaks a new and glorious morn. Fall on your knees! O hear the angel voices! O night divine, O night when Christ was born; O night divine, O night, O night Divine.


Again, all true. He told you what was coming and you did not believe.

O little town of Bethlehem, How still we see thee lie, Above thy deep and dreamless sleep, The silent stars go by, Yet in thy dark streets shineth, The everlasting Light, The hopes and fears of all the years, Are met in thee tonight

Yes, you realize there was a little town of Bethlehem, and there were those who had their hope set on Christ and they met Him this night and you knew about it and ignored it.

So I’ll cherish the old rugged Cross, Till my trophies at last I lay down, I will cling to the old rugged Cross, And exchange it some day for a crown

I'm guessing you didn't cherish the old rugged cross. I'm guessing your trophies were your pride and joy.

Suppose you are attending a church. They have all their Christmas decorations up, they have taught you all about Christmas but never talked about the rapture. You are going to feel robbed and cheated.

Jesus is Lord

Why would the Lord Jesus who is Lord of all and sovereign over all things allow the church to celebrate His birth on the birthday of a Babylonian God who is a type of the antichrist?

On the other hand, if the Antichrist is revealed after the rapture, you would think that this day of the rapture would be very close to the birthday of the Antichrist.

2Thessalonians 2:6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

The lawless one will be revealed "in his own time". Could "his own time" refer to his birthday? The Orthodox celebration of Christmas is also called the epiphany, when the Messiah was first revealed.
 

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Sales Pitch for the Mark of the Beast

Imagine if every person had a unique mark that a monster super computer could track. We could eliminate tax fraud, all transactions could be done digitally using this unique identifier. We could eliminate identity theft. We could drastically reduce crime. Every crime committed would be easy to solve since you are able to track the location of every person at all times. It would be like the reason they stopped stealing phones. The stolen phone can be tracked to you. Likewise we could track all stolen merchandise to the thief in real time. But it is even bigger than this. Scientists have been developing the technology to read brain waves, so if we had this mark in your brain we could see what you see, hear what you hear, and yes, this is a two way communication. They could be able to send messages, make people hear voices and see visions. The power, all the power of the universe would be in the hands of this government.

Strategy for implementation

Ask the right question

Many people would ask "if they would kill the president do you think they would hesitate with me?" I think that is the wrong question. The question they ask is "Seeing how we got away with killing the president how can we get away with killing 3,000 during 9/11?" then the next question is "Seeing how we got away with killing 3,000 how can we get away with a worldwide pandemic?"

Sadly I think there are some people who just can't believe the government would lie to us. Ask them and they'll readily admit the government will lie about everything, but surely not about this. Why not? Well they think the government loves them and cares for them. That may be true during your productive years when you are working hard to pay taxes, but what about the elderly, the retirees? You are no longer a "giver" you are a "taker". If every person receiving Social Security benefits were to die then Social Security would be solvent, problem solved. Same is true of all these pension funds that about to collapse. The elderly who are receiving these benefits are exposing the thieves who have robbed and cleaned out the funds.

This is not personal, it is business.

So why do they need to kill people, what does that accomplish? They need to give you the injection for the mark and they have to give it to everyone. If they don't give it to everyone you will get competing economies out there. How do you convince 90% of the population to get this injection? So you need a worldwide pandemic that will kill you unless you get the injection.

But what about the risks to them?

Great point, you don't release a worldwide bioweapon that can kill if you don't first have the cure. This is why the studies on Ivermectin and HCQ were done prior to the release of the bioweapon. They had the cure which would prevent them from getting sick. This also explains why they publish their plans prior to us seeing them. The guy who discovers Ivermectin wants the credit and to get paid for that, likewise with the guy who discovered HCQ. They don't have to know the whole plan. It is like the guy who discovered nuclear fission, can it be used for good? Of course, can it be used to kill? Of course.

The Kill Switch

I have even seen scientific documents that not only can they read brain waves and send messages to your brain, they can even send something that would trigger a brain aneurysm to kill you. It just gives them so much more power and control.

I am thrilled to be alive at this time and seeing all these things we have read about being fulfilled right before our eyes. When I tell people this they get angry, these things are terrifying, we shouldn't be rejoicing. I'm not rejoicing at what Satan is doing, I'm rejoicing that God is faithful to do all that He said He would do and that includes shining a light on the evil one.

I can sympathize with those who are scared

But I get the point, we are all human, we all have fears and that includes me. There are some very real things that really sent me to my knees. For example, I can remember this vividly when I first got the news. I was 25 or 26, but that is not what I was thinking, my thought was "I am too young to be hearing this, I'm not ready, I have my whole life in front of me". I don't remember this woman's name but her face is seared into my memory. I was sitting in a chair, she was right in front of me hitting my forehead with a comb. Like everyone at first I was in denial, "I want another opinion". She had just told me I had a receding hair line, I was going bald!

This shouldn't have been a big surprise, my grandfather and uncle were both bald. It is just that you never think this will happen to you. There was a woman at the church, she was the mother of two very beautiful daughters and she told me that women like bald men, she was trying to comfort me and it was very helpful. So look, I can sympathize with those who say they aren't ready for this, they are too young, etc. But my feeling is that the Bible says that God will have them in derision and so I also will be one with God and hold the evil one in derision.
 

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Jeremiah 6 -- They are called rejected silver

The bible is filled with typology. Is this referring directly to Israel? Yes. Is Israel a type of the church? Yes. We were told specifically in 1Corinthians that the things that happened to Israel were an example to us. It is Biblically correct to apply these words to the church today.

1 “Flee for safety, people of Benjamin! Flee from Jerusalem! Sound the trumpet in Tekoa! Raise the signal over Beth Hakkerem! For disaster looms out of the north, even terrible destruction.

What a picture. The Southern kingdom was composed of Judah and Benjamin. Here we see that this kingdom is split in two just like what we are seeing today between the “Leftists” and the “Conservatives”. If this were the US then Jerusalem would be Washington DC. To flee from Washington DC would then have a double meaning. Yes, the capital is surrounded by troops and fences, but it is also the “heart of the corruption”, some are now calling it “the district of corruption”.

2 I will destroy Daughter Zion, so beautiful and delicate.

I prefer the translation that describes the daughter of Zion as a beautiful pasture. For the last century the world has looked at the US as a great place to do business, but that will be destroyed.

3 Shepherds with their flocks will come against her; they will pitch their tents around her, each tending his own portion.”

Again, I prefer the translation that describes them each with their hand out. Why is the US being destroyed as a place to do business? “Offspring of vipers” they have learned to “never let a crisis go to waste” and have their hand out demanding all kinds of money from the federal government. We spend over $6 trillion a year on our national budget, yet the cities are falling apart, the border is wide open, and the homeless are everywhere.

4 “Prepare for battle against her! Arise, let us attack at noon! But, alas, the daylight is fading, and the shadows of evening grow long. 5 So arise, let us attack at night and destroy her fortresses!”

Wow, how appropriate. The pandemic was designed to destroy the positive economic news and help get Biden elected. The idea was to reopen after the election but now it is dragging on and on, and with China it looks like we have a new and deadlier wave. This will destroy the fortresses of the Democrats. Fauci is being mocked as a liar and a joke. The CDC and the WHO are losing credibility. The entire US saw an NFL player collapse and this was after books like "The Real Anthony Fauci" and movies like "Died Suddenly".

6 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Cut down the trees and build siege ramps against Jerusalem. This city must be punished; it is filled with oppression.

Lay siege to the Capital. We have 20 congressmen doing just that. The battle is over the Speaker of the House but the real battle is over the fight to raise the debt ceiling. The censorship on Twitter is being exposed. Meanwhile the evidence of voter fraud continues to press the case in Arizona and Pa. And it is filled with oppression, Biden mandating the vaccine for everyone and talking about sending the military into the states to enforce it.

7 As a well pours out its water, so she pours out her wickedness. Violence and destruction resound in her; her sickness and wounds are ever before me.


We are now seeing the violence and destruction of Antifa and even the January 6 riot in a new light. Now that the populists control congress this battle over the Speaker of the house is all about money and power. Do not raise the debt ceiling, cut up the governments credit card, and carry out investigations, and impeach those guilty of crimes.

8 Take warning, Jerusalem, or I will turn away from you and make your land desolate so no one can live in it.”

Could anyone have believed this two years ago? Biden has only been president for two years and yet now the Lord has already given the US the bill of divorce, this nation has been kicked out of His covering and protection.

9 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Let them glean the remnant of Israel as thoroughly as a vine; pass your hand over the branches again, like one gathering grapes.”


This is what we are hearing out of the left. They have thrown open our border, they sent $100 billion to Ukraine, and the government is gleaning the US, they pass another 1.7 trillion dollar Ominibus. The yields on our bonds have spiked up and now they are doubling the amount of bonds they are trying to sell. The US debt will skyrocket and when that happens you will see runaway inflation. Saudi Arabia may have already made a covenant with Russia for security, replacing the dollar with the Ruble.

10 To whom can I speak and give warning? Who will listen to me? Their ears are closed so they cannot hear. The word of the Lord is offensive to them; they find no pleasure in it.


Just like today. It is like two completely different worlds, those that listen to CNN cannot listen to warnings from people like Tucker Carlson or Steve Bannon.
 

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Once again, the Vaccine does not defile your heart.

17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.) 20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”

So let’s reiterate in case you want to argue that He is talking solely about food. Yes, this applies to food which was a very big topic at the time Mark wrote this gospel and since this is considered the gospel according to Peter it is also a big topic from Peter’s experience. But Jesus does not limit this to food. He says “Are you so dull?” He asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from outside can defile them? For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” Well, hold on, the vaccine is something that enters the person from outside, but does it go into the stomach? Also, can’t these spike proteins be found in the heart? No doubt there will be these statements made from those who are exceedingly dull. The context is food and unwashed hands. So the context is not so much about unclean food as it is about germs on your hand. Mark wants to make sure everyone can see that this principle about dirty hands and germs can also refer to foods that are considered unclean. But the real context is bacteria and other germs on your hands and practices related to your health. Second, Jesus is not talking about the heart that is pumping blood, He is talking about he heart from which “evil thoughts come”. As horrible as you want to portray the vaccine it does not enter the heart “from which evil thoughts come”.

That said the evidence is starting to pour in that the vaccine is extremely harmful to health. There is also evidence that it does in fact change your DNA and some theorize that the fingerprint of God is on our DNA. I do believe that this vaccine is a precursor, that they are experimenting with something that will change you and mark you out as belonging to the beast. However, there are rules that Satan must follow, just read the book of Job, and I believe based on the book of Revelation that the rules concerning the mark of the beast are that you will know prior to taking it that if you take it you will not be able to be saved and will belong to Satan.

I would liken the vaccine to being part of the Nazi party during the time of Hitler and the mark of the beast being a member of the Gestapo.
 

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Jeremiah 6 you nations; you who are witnesses, observe what will happen to them.

11 But I am full of the wrath of the Lord, and I cannot hold it in. “Pour it out on the children in the street and on the young men gathered together; both husband and wife will be caught in it, and the old, those weighed down with years. 12 Their houses will be turned over to others, together with their fields and their wives, when I stretch out my hand against those who live in the land,” declares the Lord.

This is what we are seeing, small businesses are getting hit very hard, the bankruptcies will sweep across the country. Especially small landlords who have not been able to collect rent for more than a year. Restaurants that were forced to close. Cuomo and four other governors mandated that people sick with Covid had to return to the nursing homes guaranteeing that many elderly would get sick and die. Mental health issues among kids who have had to study remotely for the last year have increased 100%. Young people cannot find jobs. These are warnings, this is nothing compared to what is about to come, but it gives people a chance to repent.

13 “From the least to the greatest, all are greedy for gain; prophets and priests alike, all practice deceit. 14 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. ‘Peace, peace,’ they say, when there is no peace.


The hypocrisy and lies are repulsive. All the courts refusing to listen to evidence of election fraud. This is not helping the situation. They are trying to say that there is nothing to see here and yet the lies and hypocrisy are overflowing, no one believes a word they say. All of these mainstream media outlets and tech giant platforms and politicians and pundits practice deceit. The most vocal advocates of the “#MeToo” movement when one woman brought a charge against Kavanaugh from 20 years previously, a charge that could not be substantiated, these same people are refusing to listen to multiple women bring charges against Biden and Cuomo. Joy Behar and Kamala Harris are two prime examples of the most deceitful and hypocritical women. Why are the Republicans still supporting the leaders who led them to epic failure in the last few elections? They don't care about that, all they care about is the fund raising. It is obvious for all to see.

15 Are they ashamed of their detestable conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when I punish them,” says the Lord. 16 This is what the Lord says: “Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’


Right now there is a fork in the road, some will find the path that leads to life, but only a few, the rest will take the broad way that leads to destruction. Not only so but when they heard people preaching and warning and telling them to take the path that leads to life they were obstinate “we will not walk in it”. Joe Biden should be utterly ashamed at what has been revealed on Hunter's laptop but he doesn't even know how to blush. Adam Schiff should be utterly ashamed at what was revealed concerning him having reporters censored, but he doesn't know how. Swalwell doesn't know how to be ashamed. Fauci doesn't know how to be ashamed. There is a long list.

17 I appointed watchmen over you and said, ‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’ But you said, ‘We will not listen.’

There are Christians everywhere on the internet sounding the alarm and the response is “we will not listen”.

18 Therefore hear, you nations; you who are witnesses, observe what will happen to them.

The whole world is watching what is happening in the US. God punishes the US and the rest of the world is warned.

19 Hear, you earth: I am bringing disaster on this people, the fruit of their schemes, because they have not listened to my word and have rejected my law.


The disaster is self inflicted. Just like the blackouts in Texas, or the people dying in nursing homes, or the laws being passed concerning the tech giants and censorship. The whole world can see their schemes, they can see they refuse to listen, and they can see they have rejected God's law.

20 What do I care about incense from Sheba or sweet calamus from a distant land? Your burnt offerings are not acceptable; your sacrifices do not please me.”


Do you think that God cares if Joe Biden shows up at Mass? Do you think that he tells a few “hail mary’s” and then it will be all fine?
 

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5 Seals have been opened

When the first four seals are opened you see a horse race. The horses come leaping out of the gate racing down the track.

1. The white horse in my opinion is deception, deceit, pretending to be a white horse of a savior but being a liar and deceit. Haven't we seen that horse off and running already? Haven't we seen censorship, people calling evil good and good evil, changing the language, turning the world upside down?

2. The red horse is war. You might think that we have had war for 2,000 years. That is true, but this horse has a "great sword given unto him". Ever since nuclear weapons I think we can agree that all the swords previous to that were "not great" by comparison. Now this horse has the power to take peace from the world that they should kill each other. When the bombs were dropped on Japan that brought peace and put an end to the killing and the war. Therefore that doesn't count, neither does Vietnam, or Korea, even the Gulf wars. However, what we are seeing now does count. You have two nuclear powers, the US and Russia openly fighting with one another and threatening a nuclear holocaust, NATO is involved, and China is allied with Russia looking to attack Taiwan, and that in turn involves the rest of the world. So yes, the Red horse is out of the gate, it does have a great sword, and this horse does have the ability to cause the whole world to kill each other.

3. The third horse is famine. The pair of balances in my understanding means that we will see a terrible bias where the poor must pay much more than some elites. We don't see the famished people in the streets in America yet, but we do see this horse racing around the track. 120+ food processing plants sabotaged in America, farms being shut down in Europe, fertilizer being cut off around the world. Rivers are drying up making it impossible to transport grain from the US, in Europe and in other parts of the world. Inflation is taking off. You would have to be blind to not realize this horse is already out of the gate.

4. Now the pale green horse of the plague, I'd say Covid19 and the Vaccine are proof that this horse is also out of the gate running. But hey, we had the 1918 flu, why doesn't that count? This time the virus and the vaccine were developed in a bioweapons lab. Not only so but all previous pandemics petered out after two or three years. This one seems to be shifting into high gear and we are well into the fourth year. What we are seeing in China now is far worse than what we saw in 2019. Also in previous pandemics we never saw a worldwide response, a worldwide shutdown, a worldwide call for a vaccine passport, etc. As some have put it, this pandemic has shown how easily it is to get people to give up their basic freedoms and rights.

5. Now the fifth seal is having the curtain pulled away so that we can see the dead bodies and the censored prayers of the saints. Think about what is happening with all these twitter drops and freedom of information acts. We just recently saw that the CIA was involved in the assassination of JFK. We are seeing that Fauci and a number of scientists lied about the pandemic that it was from a bat cave, we saw a movie called "Died Suddenly" showing how the vaccine is a kill shot, Russia is claiming to have evidence taken from Bioweapons labs in Ukraine of the US criminal behavior, Epstein Island, the list goes on. Everyday more and more revelations come out.

Watching the news is like watching a horse race.
 

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Here is where the confusion comes in. I think the 70th week in Daniel will begin when the sixth seal is opened. Has the tribulation begun? Yes. Is there anywhere in the Bible that says the tribulation is the 70th week? No.

I think the Sixth seal is the rapture since earthquakes accompany resurrection from the dead. It is the sixth seal that shifts gears on the tribulation. At the rapture the antichrist gets revealed and that could refer to him confirming the covenant with the many.
 

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Another look at the Sixth Seal


12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

He beheld three things. A great earthquake which I am theorizing was the dead in Christ rising as well as the earth shaking. This would be worldwide. Second the sun becomes "black as sackcloth". Sackcloth is a very thick weave, you can see through it. This would be like a heavy darkness put over the earth that you could see through. I suspect that whatever is causing this must be "from God" because everyone is clear, there is no confusion, that this is the great day of the Lord that has come. The rapture is half the puzzle, but when the manchild is raptured then Satan and the fallen angels are cast out of heaven to the earth. We have had several prophecies, visions, dreams describing these three days of darkness as being demons let loose on earth. On one hand you see the rapture take place, on the other you see a demonic horde let loose, look out the window and it is a horror film right outside. This is why there would be no confusion. The moon became as blood. This would suggest a full moon. It would be far less noticeable if it were a crescent moon, and invisible if it were a new moon. Once again, the prophecy in Proverbs suggests the Lord returns on a full moon.

In the Bible sackcloth is associated with poverty, and repentant prayer. Imagine you see someone wearing a garbage bag as a raincoat. Suppose you see some homeless guy dressed in some sack that was tossed in the dumpster. Now if the sun is gird with sackcloth it indicates extreme poverty and depravation on the world. The sun is the source of life.

Black as sackcloth indicates that the sun is clothed with blackness (Isaiah 50:3), hence it is a funeral. A funeral is the only event where everyone is clothed in black.

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.


This is a clear reference to the fallen angels being cast to the earth during the fig tree generation. Untimely figs indicates that this is a little early for the harvest. This is not the great harvest at the end of the age at Armageddon, this is a little before. A mighty wind will shake the fig tree generation. At this time the rapture will remove some and this wind will cause others to fall to the ground.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

The heaven departed. Thessalonians says that the restrainer will depart. We understand that to be the holy spirit and those who are filled with the holy spirit. The rapture is a departure. However, they depart as a scroll when it is rolled together. The rapture will remove the living word of God from the earth. The Lord says that there will be a famine for the word at that time. The prophets warned the earth, they spoke day and night, but they were mocked, ridiculed and ignored. Now all of a sudden you desperately want to hear them but that word has been rolled up and removed. This refers to them as "the heaven", they are the "kingdom of the heavens". We are ambassadors of the kingdom of the heavens. If Japan goes to war with the US they will remove their ambassadors and the US will remove their ambassadors. This verse is telling you that the rapture is God removing the ambassadors of the kingdom of the heavens from the earth.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

This tells us there is no confusion on earth about what is happening. How can that be? It must be that despite mocking, ridiculing, ostracizing, shadow banning and whatever else they did to censor the warnings from God they all heard them, they all know that the warnings were everywhere that this was going to happen, so much so that everyone in the world knows what is going on. This proves they heard the word, but they had rejected it. Also there will be many believers left behind and they also will know what has happened.