Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
Mark 3:1-7 Is it lawful to do good or to do evil?

There is an interpretation of the four gospels that Matthew is the message to those who will be the last to be taken during the end of the age (the first shall be last and the last first), Mark is for lukewarm church which will be taken in the middle of the tribulation and Luke is for those who are raptured at the beginning of the tribulation. Therefore we see some interesting differences in this section from Matthew and Luke.

1 Another time Jesus went into the synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there.

In Matthew we get an outsider's perspective of Jesus and His disciples in a field picking grains and we look on this scene and ask how come His disciples are breaking the sabbath. That is missing in Mark because these ones are not picking the grains. They are not looking at little words sprinkled throughout the Bible that open up the teaching on the end of the age. In Mark this teaching begins with the man with the shriveled hand. They have been told in this church that “no one knows the day nor the hour” and so they have allowed that teaching to keep them from picking the grains which in turn causes their hand to be shriveled. However prior to the Lord returning to Mt. Zion the Jews will begin to realize that Jesus is the Messiah, they will be "breaking the law" to look more carefully at the word of God.

2 Some of them were looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, so they watched him closely to see if he would heal him on the Sabbath. 3 Jesus said to the man with the shriveled hand, “Stand up in front of everyone.” 4 Then Jesus asked them, “Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they remained silent.

Stand up in front of everyone. If you want to get healed you will need to take a stand, not about the rapture, not about eschatology, not about any of that. You will need to take a stand on one basic question: is it lawful to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill? Right now we are seeing some incredibly weird laws. Trump was impeached because of an allegation that he was asking the leader of Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden for corruption as a way to influence the election. This accusation caused the media and the Democrats to become outraged over the implication, yet in September we were given physical evidence that Hunter Biden had sold influence to his father who was Vice President at the time and not one word. No outrage, in fact nothing other than to do everything in their power to ignore it. A week prior to the election Hillary Clinton is very vocal and public that Joe Biden is not to concede “under any circumstances”. This was the rallying cry to the Democrats, bringing tears to many of their eyes as they heard this. One week later they are outraged that Trump has not conceded because they are appealing alleged voter fraud in the key states that determined this election. The mainstream media says there is no evidence of voter fraud to which the President’s press secretary holds up 234 signed affidavits alleging 11,000 incidents of voter fraud. So they change that to there is no evidence of “widespread voter fraud” to which Giuliani responds with evidence of several million votes for Trump that were either deleted or switched to Joe Biden by the Dominion software used to tally the votes, software that Clinton, Pelosi and Feinstein have an ownership stake in and which also has ties to China. We see attorney generals in numerous states doing everything they possibly can to prevent audits of their election, why? We were told there would be no vaccine mandates only for them to now have vaccine mandates in many places. Biden announced that Afghanis would be given priority over Americans in evacuating them from Afghanistan. Biden tried to charge Americans $2,000 each for the evacuation flight before the outrage shut that down.

At the end of the age a simple question that you must stand up for: is it legal to do good or to do evil? During the campaign right up to election day the media condemned Trump rallies as “super spreader events” then the very next day they are in the streets in massive rallies celebrating Biden’s apparent victory without a peep from the media. Likewise with Obama's 60th birthday celebration. During the lockdown every large gathering was made illegal except for BLM protests. These were advertised via all the social media platforms. The organization raised over a billion dollars, not for charitable work, but for the purpose of electing Democrats. But the day after the election a woman starts a Facebook page to set up protests calling for scrutiny over possible election fraud and Facebook shuts it down because it could provoke violence. The “stop the steal” rallies are distinctive for their protestors kneeling prayer, but they are outlawed by Facebook because they might provoke violence. Yet they never outlawed the BLM protests that were often marked with riots and looting. Take a stand, is it lawful to save life or to kill? “But they remained silent”. How can you not answer that simple question?

5 He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored. 6 Then the Pharisees went out and began to plot with the Herodians how they might kill Jesus.

This event exposed their plots to kill Jesus. The end of this age there will be judgement. You will have those who believe in Jesus receiving judgement and you will also have those who plot to kill Jesus receiving judgement. Before that can happen you have to separate them. Today we see these groups being separated. I saw on Youtube many people at these “stop the steal” protests saying they were Democrats, they weren’t there to support Trump rather they were there to support the US constitution and a free and fair election.

7 Jesus withdrew with his disciples to the lake, and a large crowd from Galilee followed.


Right now you have to withdraw from the mainstream media and these big tech platforms like Facebook and Twitter. Instead there are smaller platforms like Rumble that you can use, and other sources of news like Next News, NTD, Sky news, Dailywire, etc.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
Mark 3:8-35 They are guilty of an eternal sin

8 When they heard about all he was doing, many people came to him from Judea, Jerusalem, Idumea, and the regions across the Jordan and around Tyre and Sidon. 9 Because of the crowd he told his disciples to have a small boat ready for him, to keep the people from crowding him. 10 For he had healed many, so that those with diseases were pushing forward to touch him. 11 Whenever the impure spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, “You are the Son of God.” 12 But he gave them strict orders not to tell others about him. 13 Jesus went up on a mountainside and called to him those he wanted, and they came to him. 14 He appointed twelve that they might be with him and that he might send them out to preach 15 and to have authority to drive out demons. 16 These are the twelve he appointed: Simon (to whom he gave the name Peter), 17 James son of Zebedee and his brother John (to them he gave the name Boanerges, which means “sons of thunder”), 18 Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus, Simon the Zealot 19 and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him.

Likewise there are some very powerful “preachers” on these platforms. So although many of these are taking a stand for doing good and not for killing, there are also those who are preaching Jesus as well. Also, please note, impure spirits cannot tell others about Jesus, this honor is only for His saints.

20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. 21 When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”

This is funny. Everyone talks about that crazy uncle at Thanksgiving that “is out of his mind”. When my family was celebrating Biden’s “win” I responded that “yes, this is a very exciting election and I have been paying close attention and am very interested to see how it turns out in the end”. That brought a vehement response, I pointed out that CNN and Fox don’t get to call elections, the GSA does. Again, the response was like hitting a hornets nest with a bat, but the kindest thing they might of said is that “he is out of his mind”. Yet here we are two years later and guess what, we still haven't resolved this. Everyday it looks more and more like the fraud will catch up with Biden and the Democrats.

22 And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, “He is possessed by Beelzebul! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons.”

Now that is what the mainstream media is saying. The ugly, nasty accusations are off the charts. Their hypocrisy is on full display that they would all rally behind Clinton’s cry “do not concede under any circumstances” and then rail against Trump and portray him as Scarface holed up in the oval office. Durham's latest indictment proves that they were complicit and involved.

23 So Jesus called them over to him and began to speak to them in parables: “How can Satan Drive out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26 And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come.

If Trump were "Satan" he couldn't drive out Satan, he couldn't "drain the swamp". This is how you can discern who is who. Is Biden driving out Satan? No. Is there any possibility that he can drive out Satan? No. The nasty, ugly attacks on Trump and his supporters, isn't that how Satan talks, how he acts? However, we also know that Satan's end has come when you see them opposing themselves. When you see them take out Cuomo, or attack Biden, this is evidence that their end has come. You see this in all the gangster movies with the iconic "you dirty rat". When the end comes they all abandon ship and try to save themselves.

27 In fact, no one can enter a strong man’s house without first tying him up. Then he can plunder the strong man’s house.

During the end of this age the Lord is going to plunder the strong man’s house, that is a reference to the rapture and the Lord coming as a thief. But first, before the rapture, you must tie up the strong man. Bind him, throw him in prison. That is what we are seeing right now. That is what the congressional hearings are all about. That is what Giuliani and hundreds of affidavits, witness testimonies, and physical evidence are all about. Biden blamed the Afghanistan crisis on poor intelligence, the military was out immediately after his speech refuting his lies. Biden claimed that the US is no good at nation building, pundits immediately dug up old video of him promoting "nation building" in Afghanistan. Every lie is used to bind the strong man, that is the problem they face with everything they ever speak being recorded and kept on tape.

28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

You can say that your crazy uncle has lost his mind, that is fine, you can be forgiven of that. But if you say that everyone needs to ignore 234 signed affidavits, if you say that the rest of the country needs to ignore 71 million people, then there is no forgiveness for that. You can be forgiven for supporting BLM in theory but when you see their hypocrisy and corruption and lies and still support them, no forgiveness for that. You can be forgiven for voting for Joe Biden, but once you see his incompetence on full display and how dangerous that is to the safety and security of this country then you can no longer defend him. If you do, there is no forgiveness for that.

30 He said this because they were saying, “He has an impure spirit.”

If you say that following the legal, constitutional process to contest the election in the courts is “impure” and a “coup” then there is no forgiveness for that. They made the accusation that January 6th was an insurrection. Then it was revealed there were no weapons, and then it was revealed that the only people who were killed were killed by the Capital security, that Officer Sicknick was not bludgeoned, he was not killed by bear spray, that all of that was a lie. Then it was revealed that actually the FBI was the one involved in planning and carrying out the insurrection. Now the FBI is trying to say there was no insurrection plan because they want to stop the investigation of what happened. All of a sudden they realize they stepped into the bear trap. You said they had an impure spirit, we are going to investigate that and find out exactly who had the impure spirit.

31 Then Jesus’ mother and brothers arrived.Standing outside, they sent someone in to call him. 32 A crowd was sitting around him, and they told him, “Your mother and brothers are outside looking for you.” 33 “Who are my mother and my brothers?” he asked. 34 Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 35 Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.”

Every believer is concerned that they would be found worthy at the end of the age. Apart from a select few like the Mother Mary we know that all Christians are uneasy about whether or not they will be raptured. So this is a very encouraging word, “whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother”.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
Thirty Lessons on how to overcome the accuser of the brethren (7-11)

Saying 7 -- Lowliness of mind

23 When you sit to dine with a ruler, note well what is before you, 2 and put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony. 3 Do not crave his delicacies, for that food is deceptive.

The last saying said that if you were skilled in your work you will serve before kings, now this one says if you do sit with a ruler or king make sure you are not given to gluttony. This is one of the key lessons we learn from Tom Brady. He was not given to gluttony. He could have demanded a much higher salary but he didn’t. As a result the team was able to afford other key players which played a major role in their winning so many Super Bowls. You always hear about some superstar quarterback giving expensive gifts to his offensive linemen. That is stupid, if he had taken 5 or 6 million less in salary the team could have afforded the best offensive line there is, that in turn would give him a few extra years in the league, better stats, and more wins. 3 doing nothing through faction or through vainglory, but in lowliness of mind each counting other better than himself;

Saying 8 -- Seek first the kingdom

4 Do not wear yourself out to get rich; do not trust your own cleverness. 5 Cast but a glance at riches, and they are gone, for they will surely sprout wings and fly off to the sky like an eagle.

The goal is not to get rich, it is to be skillful at your job. Larry Bird exemplified this, he was not interested in interviews, talk shows, or advertisers. He understood that the one thing that mattered most was being skillful at his job. There is a story that he was home practicing on the court, his girlfriend was told explicitly not to bother him with trivial matters. Sport's Illustrated called and wanted to do a cover story on him so she felt this was important, she called him in off the court. When he discovered the reason he rebuked her, a cover story in Sport's Illustrated was an example of something he felt was trivial.

Saying 9 -- Whatsoever place will not receive you, leave

6 Do not eat the food of a begrudging host, do not crave his delicacies; 7 for he is the kind of person who is always thinking about the cost. “Eat and drink,” he says to you, but his heart is not with you. 8 You will vomit up the little you have eaten and will have wasted your compliments.

Again, let’s learn from Tom Brady. New England would have renewed his contract but they were definitely a begrudging host and wanted him to retire. If you don’t go willingly they can force you out by creating an environment for you to fail. It is the best move to leave gracefully the minute you realize they want you to leave. Too many are struggling to stay on Facebook and Youtube even though they are clearly a begrudging host looking for an opportunity to suspend them. Have some self respect and leave. Brady left, went to the team with the worst record in the NFL and won a Superbowl. And whatsoever place shall not receive you, and they hear you not, as ye go forth thence, shake off the dust that is under your feet for a testimony unto them.

Saying 10 -- Do not cast your pearls before swine

9 Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words.

We saw this last year, Trump said that you could treat Covid with Hydrochloroquine and scorn was heaped upon him. Yet he was right, his words were prudent.

Saying 11 -- receive the spirit of sonship, crying Abba Father

10 Do not move an ancient boundary stone or encroach on the fields of the fatherless, 11 for their Defender is strong; he will take up their case against you.

This is a repeat, it is like a refrain. After several sayings about people who are very skilled at their job and yet were not appreciated. Why would New England want to get rid of Tom Brady when he was still playing at an elite level, was an outstanding teammate, and was willing to play at significantly less than market value? He was like Joe Montana. In both of their cases the coach was not glorified in their success, instead the debate was over who was most responsible for the success. This is a warning to the coach and the owner, do not try and disrespect a Tom Brady, don’t try to encroach on his field, because his defender is strong. The worst thing for Belechik’s legacy is his attempt to say that Brady was past his prime. This is also the biggest shame to Boston, it reminds us of Babe Ruth and now Tom Brady. Each was the best player in his sport while he played and yet both were despised by Boston teams. The way these players were treated, it was as though they were "fatherless". Now look at the US, after a year of attacking and tearing down statues of great generals and leaders in US history we see how utterly incompetent and pathetic these "woke" leaders are with the debacle in Afghanistan.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
Mr. Rogers warns about transgenderism 40 years ago

 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
One problem with your timeline -- the revelation of the mystery

I have seen many timelines based on Revelation that suggest at the end of the church age we have Revelation 4 where we see Jesus on the throne with the Lampstand (the church, already raptured) and he opens the seals at that time.

However, we have had numerous prophetic words that say the first 5 seals have already been opened. So I would suggest that chapters 2 - 3 have a common theme, Jesus in the midst of the seven churches during the entire church age.

However, chapter 4 is not sequential, instead it is a different topic. When Jesus ascended He sat down at the right hand of the Father on the throne. He opened up the mystery as it had not been opened previously. That is these first five seals.

The first seal is how Satan has been deceiving people as the guy on the white horse with the bow (from Noah, the seal of God's covenant to the world). He is not riding to make the world a better place, he is riding to conquer. This mystery was opened up after Jesus resurrection. After that we were able to see how Satan comes as an angel of light. Governments sell themselves as the guy on a white horse riding in to save you when in reality they are riding in to conquer and enslave you.

This is why we immediately see the red horse, it really is all about war. They have tried over and over again to make these wars for God, when in reality they are started by false flag events. The stronger party wants an excuse to go to war with the weaker one so they create a false flag event to make people think the weaker country attacked the stronger one.

We also learn that famine and plague are man made devices done in this quest to conquer. Never has that been more obvious than it was with the "plandemic" of 2020 and the 120+ food processing plants sabotaged in the two years after that. They know the best way to manipulate people is with plague and starvation. How did they get 80% of Americans to take that experimental vaccine? How will they get a "christian" nation that should know all about the mark of the beast to take the mark of the beast?

That leads us to the fifth seal. They treat people like cattle. The mark of the beast is a mark that says you belong to Satan and then he can kill you if he likes, just like we kill sheep, goats, and cows.

This leads us to the sixth seal, a great earthquake and I suspect the rapture which is the revelation of the Lord's masterpiece. It is the unveiling event where the world will see that the gospel we have preached for 2,000 years was the truth.

3 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus in behalf of you Gentiles,— 2 if so be that ye have heard of the dispensation of that grace of God which was given me to you-ward; 3 how that by revelation was made known unto me the mystery, as I wrote before in few words, 4 whereby, when ye read, ye can perceive my understanding in the mystery of Christ; 5 which in other generations was not made known unto the sons of men, as it hath now been revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets in the Spirit; 6 to wit, that the Gentiles are fellow-heirs, and fellow-members of the body, and fellow-partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel, 7 whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of that grace of God which was given me according to the working of his power. 8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, was this grace given, to preach unto the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; 9 and to make all men see what is the dispensation of the mystery which for ages hath been hid in God who created all things; 10 to the intent that now unto the principalities and the powers in the heavenly places might be made known through the church the manifold wisdom of God, 11 according to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: 12 in whom we have boldness and access in confidence through our faith in him. 13 Wherefore I ask that ye may not faint at my tribulations for you, which are your glory.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113

I found this interesting because 187 days before September 25 is March 22. Nisan 1 is March 23, so this would be the very last day of the year for the Jews. So the age of grace and the church age would end this year and Nisan 1 would begin the 70th week. This would also mean that we could get Ezekiel 38 war precipitated by the rapture and that in turn precipitates the AntiChrist confirming the covenant on Feast of Trumpets.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
30 Sayings to prepare you for the field of battle continued (12-14)

So far we have seen all various things that go on before you even get on the field. Don’t be a glutton when negotiating a contract, if they don’t want you it is better to leave, be careful about trying to ruin someone’s career with a bad reference, focus on practice and developing your craft rather than opportunities to cash in. Let's review

1 -- Bear witness to the truth
2 -- Be Merciful to others
3 -- Do not be unequally yoked
4 -- Deal with sins, especially greed
5 -- Do not change the word of God

These five deal with establishing yourself in a place where you can grow. From the moment you get saved you should become a witness for the Lord and take heed to the royal commandment to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. However, you will need to be in fellowship with others and so you must find a church where you can worship, where you can deal with sins and that does not change the word of God. Only at this point can you move on to the next stage which is ministry.

6 -- Cut straight the word of God
7 -- Lowliness of mind
8 -- Seek first the kingdom
9 -- Whatsoever place will not receive you, leave
10 -- Do not cast your pearls before swine

Ministry requires that you cut straight the word of God, that you follow in the footsteps of Jesus in lowliness of mind, to wash the disciples feet, and to take up your cross, to make yourself of no effect and to take on the life of a servant of Christ. Do not seek to build up your ministry, seek first the kingdom. It is all about walking in faith, consider Abraham the father of faith. His ministry was being the father of faith but when he had to make a choice between seeking the kingdom or his ministry he offered up Isaac. Then you need to realize that the Lord is sovereign over all, if they will not receive you in this place it is because the Lord wants you to move on to the next city. Yes, we are humble, we are the offscouring of the world, but we are handling pearls and we must treat the word of God as pearls and not pig slop.

11 -- Spirit of Sonship

Spirit of sonship or adoption does not mean you are born again, it means now you are mature enough to inherit a ministry. Before this you were an apprentice, you were learning. Perhaps you were serving in a ministry, but now you can step out in faith, calling Abba Father. This now brings us to 12.

Saying 12 Furnished completely unto every good work

12 Apply your heart to instruction and your ears to words of knowledge.

This is how you improve. It doesn’t say to listen or even to obey, it says to apply. This means you are taking the instruction and words of knowledge and applying them to your life. This is what James means when he says “faith without works is dead”. He means you need to apply your faith to your ministry. This is what Paul said 16 Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness: 17 that the man of God may be complete, furnished completely unto every good work.

We can apply every verse in the Bible to our life and ministry so that we can be complete and furnished completely unto every good work.

Saying 13 Reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering

13 Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish them with the rod, they will not die. 14 Punish them with the rod and save them from death.

Definitely not politically correct, but very true. People attacked Michael Jordan when the book “Jordan’s Rules” came out portraying him as a bully. He wasn’t a bully, that is absurd, bullies pick on weaker people. He was disciplining his teammates with the rod to save them from collapsing under pressure during the playoffs. He changed the culture from a losing team to a dynasty. I heard Robert Parrish comparing Jordan's leadership to larry Bird. Bird set an example whereas Jordan was much more "in your face" but when Jordan came to Chicago this team had a culture of losing and when Bird went to Boston they had a culture of winning.

Saying 14 Rejoice when we are weak and you are strong

15 My son, if your heart is wise, then my heart will be glad indeed; 16 my inmost being will rejoice
when your lips speak what is right.

I am always reminded of Seattle versus the New England Patriots in the Superbowl. Seattle had driven down to the goal line at the very end of the game. New England was leading but a touchdown here would win the game for Seattle. They had one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL and they had one of the best short yardage running backs in the NFL. It looked like the game was over and then a rookie or 2nd year cornerback made a great play to intercept the ball in the end zone. That interception snatched victory from the jaws of defeat for New England. Later the story came out that the coach had been very tough on this particular player trying to drill into him how to defend this play just days earlier. During the practice you might think the coach has it in for me, but later when you have won the Super Bowl you realize he is rejoicing as much as you are that you acted in a wise way.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
30 Sayings to prepare you for the field of battle continued (15-19)

The sayings 12-14 were particularly focused on having a ministry. But now we come to the Lord's word about narrow is the way that leads to life and wide is the way that leads to destruction. Why would we leave the path that leads to life once we are on it? The first sin we had to deal with specifically was greed, now the sin that could cause you to stumble and turn aside is envy.

Saying 15 In this world you will have tribulation but Jesus has overcome the world

17
Do not let your heart envy sinners, but always be zealous for the fear of the Lord. 18 There is surely a future hope for you, and your hope will not be cut off.

“There is always a future hope for you”. Isn’t that great! The sinner steals something and is dancing and rejoicing, don’t envy them, no, be zealous for the fear of the Lord and there is always a future hope for you. In 2020 Tampa Bay Buccaneers traded their star quarterback Jamieson Winston to New Orleans and brought in Tom Brady. During the regular season New Orleans played and beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers twice and you can see Jamieson Winston celebrating those victories. But then they met in the playoffs and Tampa won. Every time you lose use it to motivate you to study your weaknesses and improve them and there is always hope for you.

Saying 16 Do not despise the day of small things

19 Listen, my son, and be wise, and set your heart on the right path: 20 Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat, 21 for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags.

Again, the focus is on being skillful at what you do. Riches fly away, drunkards and gluttons become poor. The goal is not to get a big fat contract or to be the toast of the town. I hated the New England Patriots, I came up with every reason in the book why Tom Brady is overrated. In the end it was undeniable, I saw the little things he did like not take a big salary and to not think more highly of himself than he ought, and ultimately realized there is a lot more to being successful than just running and throwing.

Saying 17 Honor your father and mother, the commandment with a promise

22 Listen to your father, who gave you life, and do not despise your mother when she is old. 23 Buy the truth and do not sell it— wisdom, instruction and insight as well. 24 The father of a righteous child has great joy; a man who fathers a wise son rejoices in him. 25 May your father and mother rejoice; may she who gave you birth be joyful!

Candace Owens is a black woman who is a pundit. She makes a very strong case that in the US discrimination against blacks is not the issue, the issue for blacks is broken families and fatherless families. One of the ten commandments is to honor your father and mother that it may be well with you (be successful) and that you may live long on the earth (have a long career and a long life). You see this rule proven time and again.

Saying 18 Guard your heart above all else.

26 My son, give me your heart and let your eyes delight in my ways, 27 for an adulterous woman is a deep pit, and a wayward wife is a narrow well. 28 Like a bandit she lies in wait and multiplies the unfaithful among men.

You don’t want to slide into a deep pit, you will lose your cart, your horse, everything. Also you don’t want to fall in love with a wayward wife, you will get bruised and it is very difficult to escape. How does she snare a husband? It is as though she were a bandit lying in wait. Not only so but she will multiply the unfaithful, she will teach her children her ways.

Saying 19 Wide is the way that leads to destruction

29 Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has strife? Who has complaints? Who has needless bruises? Who has bloodshot eyes? 30 Those who linger over wine, who go to sample bowls of mixed wine. 31 Do not gaze at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, when it goes down smoothly! 32 In the end it bites like a snake and poisons like a viper. 33 Your eyes will see strange sights, and your mind will imagine confusing things. 34 You will be like one sleeping on the high seas, lying on top of the rigging. 35 “They hit me,” you will say, “but I’m not hurt! They beat me, but I don’t feel it! When will I wake up so I can find another drink?”

Why do people turn to the bottle? Perhaps a failed marriage, perhaps a miserable career, etc. If you are envious of sinners you will likely ignore your mother and father, you will get snared by the adulterous woman, get damaged, lose everything and then turn to the bottle.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
Mark 13:1-13 When is the Big Day?

1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here! 2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Every time the gospels take up this burden they put it into this context that not one stone of the temple will be left upon another. We hear this from many different perspectives, a great shaking is another example. The worldly system is a condemned building, it will go up in flames and not one stone will be left upon another. This is a major point for the tribulation and end of the age.

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, 4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?

The question is very clear, and it is a question that many ask, even today. Jesus does not tell them “it is not for you to know”. Instead He goes into great detail about what they need to watch for.

5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you: 6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Many use the fact that there have been many deceived on this issue as a basis to mock anyone who talks about it. That is a mistake, when the rapture comes it will be a great testimony to the world that Jesus Christ is king and that He is the savior of the world. This is because everyone on earth knows that the rapture is part of our basic teachings. To ignore it or be ashamed of it because previous people have been deceived is precisely Satan’s strategy. Others will take the fact that many have been deceived as an excuse not to study it because “who can know” and “there are too many interpretations”. The Lord told you this would be the case. The fact that there are is a fulfillment of prophecy, it is also an indication of how big a deal this is to Satan. In football I was taught to “fight the pressure”. If they are trying to push you one way you want to fight against that pressure. Satan is clearly trying everything in his arsenal to get the saints to talk about anything but the rapture. This is also how you get deceived. Convincing you to ignore this is a win for Satan. Jesus, Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Peter, Jude, none of these guys ignored this. When you are in a game like football or basketball the coaches will practice 2 minute drills repeatedly, because they don’t want any confusion at that moment in the game. Scam artists will use different techniques to get you to fear that you have to act now or lose all hope. When you are fearful your thinking brain shuts down and all you have left is the “fight or flight” response. It is “yes or no”. So then, we are much better served if we dive into this, think about it soberly and don’t allow ourselves to be in a time crunch. That is also how many are deceived.

7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.

There are a lot of things that must happen in this age. Jesus is Lord, so all the human kingdoms have to be exposed as corrupt and dead. It was essential that the US would be formed with our constitution. World War II was critical to serve as an atonement and open the door for the Jewish nation to be reformed. We needed Hitler to prefigure the Antichrist. We also needed the technological advancements that we saw in the Gulf War. The church age is also the age of scientific advancement. All these things “must needs be”. But now we have something completely new "rumors of war". For six thousand years if you went to war everyone knew it, there were swords and horses, and guns and dead people. But now we have cyber attacks, we have all of this CIA stuff, all this deep state stuff, all of this bioweapons stuff. Was the Pandemic an act of war? Right now it is simply a rumor of war.

8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

The beginning of sorrows. The comparison of the end of the age to a woman in travail giving birth is one overriding theme. A pregnancy involves a lot, not just the last day of travail. The New Testament makes it clear that believers must go through a fiery tribulation. This age has had many, you didn’t have to wait until the tribulation to go through trials.

9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

The purpose of preaching the gospel is not simply so that the lost can be saved. There are those that will reject the gospel. They cannot be judged without a testimony against them. It doesn’t matter if the gospel is received or rejected, the fact that it is preached is effective and that word will not return void.

10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

Do not despise the written word. We need to speak the word and we need to publish the word. People use the word in Matthew that it must be preached, but that is not the word in Mark. Here it simply must be published. Because of the internet the gospel has certainly been published among all nations. This is a prophecy that could not have been fulfilled prior to this age with the internet.

11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

You might be intimidated, but the Holy Spirit isn’t. This is the opportunity He wanted, let Him speak.

12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. 13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

So if you want an idea of how bad it will be there you go.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113

Day of Christ and Day of the Lord
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
Do not worry about what you will say

Matthew 10:19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

Mark 13:11 Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.

Luke 12:11 “When you are brought before synagogues, rulers and authorities, do not worry about how you will defend yourselves or what you will say, 12 for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that time what you should say.”

Two things, first, the Holy Spirit wants this opportunity to speak and give a strong testimony, do not shy away, just let the Spirit speak.

Second, I find it very interesting that in Matthew and Mark He talks about the believers being arrested and brought to trial, but in Luke we are simply speaking to the synagogues, rulers and authorities. Right now that is what we are doing. We may get censored and suspended from Facebook or Twitter, we may be shunned from the mainstream media, we may get insulted by Biden, but we stand strong and speak the word. However, once the tribulation begins they will turn the screws, you will be arrested and even beheaded. Do not worry beforehand, just say whatever is given you at the time.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
An Army of AntiChrists

1John 2:18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

This verse suddenly hit me, "even now many antichrists have come". We are so focused on "the" antichrist we have missed the fact that there are an army of antichrists. You can't perpetrate this election fraud, and perpetrate this plandemic, and create a killer vaccine without many antichrists.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
Predictive Programming

We need to discuss this because there are many who are looking at these things.

1. Jesus commanded the evil spirits to not make Him known. The honor of preaching the gospel belongs to the saints alone. It is a great test, if a spirit comes to you with a prophecy first find out what they have to say about Jesus. So yes, we see predictive programming in the Simpsons, and various movies, and the I Pet Goat movie. But we don't see them making Jesus known, so you know this is coming from evil spirits.

2. There was a woman who had the spirit of Python in the book of Acts and she brought her masters a lot of money with her predictions. So the evil spirits can make accurate predictions.

3. It is very clear in the gospels that Satan knows the word of God.

4. The Bible says the evil spirits believe in God and they tremble. So yes, they know about the tribulation, and hell, and the Day of the Lord.

5. There is a principle in the bible that all the things that are hidden will be made manifest, made public.

So then, I think we should all be aware of these things. Why the total obsession with zombies, apocalypse, and super heros? The reason is because these things must be made public. X men, Zombies, Werewolves, Vampires, these are all to some extent things that are currently being done in secret but that they must reveal and make manifest to the public.

With that as a caveat

 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
The Whistler Dream 2-8-23 @ 7:01 am & 9:35am

 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113

Received Feb 11, 2023-War is coming! Prophetic warning! Like Hiroshima! Jesus and the wedding feast!
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
Wow -- Opening up of Job

 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
Why are some left behind?

Luke 3:5 Every valley shall be filled,
And every mountain and hill shall be brought low;
And the crooked shall become straight,
And the rough ways smooth;

6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.

All three synoptic gospels have similar accounts of John the Baptist's ministry, however, only Luke has this prophesy. The other two gospels conclude with "make his paths straight". This indicates that Luke is to those who do the prep work for this highway. You have mountains (the elites) and you have valleys (the deplorables) and in Luke they bring these elites low and they fill in the valleys. Right now we see this happening. News story after news story is exposing the elites, it is bringing them down. Likewise, protest and rally after protest and rally like the stop the steal rallies and the Trucker protest are filling in the valleys. People are discovering how essential the "deplorables" are.

The crooked shall become straight. When we look at the election process it is extremely crooked and I am at this moment watching Mike Lindell bring in thousand and thousands of affidavits of fraud.

The rough ways smooth -- we have seen this as well. We saw school board meetings that were "rough". Arresting a father who was complaining about his daughter being raped and the school board covering it up. In another meeting they wouldn't let a father speak because he wasn't "diverse" enough since he was white.

And all flesh shall see the salvation of God. How do you see the salvation of God? You see lives transformed, you see these transformed people make the rough ways smooth, and make the crooked become straight. This is the goal, all will see the salvation of God.

The book of Job is marvelous, it describes a man who is perfect and upright, he fears God and he turns away from evil. We might think that is the goal of the Christian life, but we would be wrong and that is what the book of Job is all about, how wrong we are. God then allows Satan to really work this guy over, it is a picture of the tribulation, not the wrath of God, that is the great tribulation, but a whole lot of suffering nonetheless. But this causes a transformation in Job when he realizes simply turning away from evil is not the same thing as overcoming evil.

6 Then Jehovah answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

7 Gird up thy loins now like a man:
I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
8 Wilt thou even annul my judgment?
Wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be justified?
9 Or hast thou an arm like God?
And canst thou thunder with a voice like him?

10 Deck thyself now with excellency and dignity;
And array thyself with honor and majesty.
11 Pour forth the overflowings of thine anger;
And look upon every one that is proud, and abase him.
12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low;
And tread down the wicked where they stand.
13 Hide them in the dust together;
Bind their faces in the hidden place.
14 Then will I also confess of thee
That thine own right hand can save thee.


During the tribulation there will be many who fear God, they were upright, they turned away from evil, but they will learn that being a Christian is much more than that. They will learn that it is Christ in them, the hope of glory. They will see that it is no longer I that live but Christ that lives in me.

And what will really wake them up to this is when they see the dead in Christ raised and the saints who remain caught up to the Lord. That is when they will see the salvation of God. That is when they will reject all the bogus teachings of their three friends.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
36,686
6,732
113
PROPHECY-- EMP (electro magnetic pulse)

Isaiah 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of Jehovah is risen upon thee. 2 For, behold, darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the peoples; but Jehovah will arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. 3 And nations shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.