Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Exodus 15 -- Defeating tyranny in ten steps, part 2

14 The nations will hear and tremble; anguish will grip the people of Philistia.

Ha! Tyrants try to seize power by creating terrifying internal and external enemies. Terrorists, domestic terrorists, pandemics, any excuse to suspend the rule of law. Well, when they see the Lord destroy the huge tech giants as well as all those politicians who tried to become tyrants then they will be the ones who are terrified. Tyrants will set up a gulag, a prison system outside of the law. Well, once again when they see what the Lord does to these ones they will become imprisoned, anguish will grip them.

15 The chiefs of Edom will be terrified, the leaders of Moab will be seized with trembling, the people of Canaan will melt away; 16 terror and dread will fall on them. By the power of your arm they will be as still as a stone— until your people pass by, Lord, until the people you bought pass by.

The Lord has given the order, the church is on the move, we are passing by, setting up our own economy, heading to the Lord’s Holy dwelling. This will be the promised “city on a hill” as an example to the rest of the world. Woke companies being exposed, companies like the NBA with incestuous relationship with China have seen their ratings crash and burn, and the Chinese themselves are seeing the entire world rise up in total disgust against them as evidence that they released the pandemic intentionally comes out.

17 You will bring them in and plant them on the mountain of your inheritance— the place, Lord, you made for your dwelling, the sanctuary, Lord, your hands established.

Every knee will bow, every tongue confess when they see the Lord’s shining wisdom in what He has built up in the church.

18 “The Lord reigns for ever and ever.” 19 When Pharaoh’s horses, chariots and horsemen went into the sea, the Lord brought the waters of the sea back over them, but the Israelites walked through the sea on dry ground. 20 Then Miriam the prophet, Aaron’s sister, took a timbrel in her hand, and all the women followed her, with timbrels and dancing. 21 Miriam sang to them: “Sing to the Lord, for he is highly exalted. Both horse and driver he has hurled into the sea.”

22 Then Moses led Israel from the Red Sea and they went into the Desert of Shur. For three days they traveled in the desert without finding water. 23 When they came to Marah, they could not drink its water because it was bitter. (That is why the place is called Marah.) 24 So the people grumbled against Moses, saying, “What are we to drink?”

25 Then Moses cried out to the Lord, and the Lord showed him a piece of wood. He threw it into the water, and the water became fit to drink.

There the Lord issued a ruling and instruction for them and put them to the test. 26 He said, “If you listen carefully to the Lord your God and do what is right in his eyes, if you pay attention to his commands and keep all his decrees, I will not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians, for I am the Lord, who heals you.”

27 Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water.

This is what happened when people left Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, Google etc. It took awhile to set up alternate sites like Gab, Parler, Rumble, DuckDuckGo, Dissenter, and so on. You have to learn to actually go to the websites you need like Mike Lindell’s site and other sites. I don’t allow CNN or these other sites to gather my approved news anymore, I have to search around and dig, but Gateway Pundit, BonginoReport, Revolver, and Veritas are all good sites, National File sometimes has good stuff, the Daily Wire is well worth subscribing to, Newsmax, and Epoch times.
 

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they present a lot of signs pointing to this weekend
 

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Hebrews 1 -- Let us learn from the best

1 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

If we want to be river crossers (Hebrews) then we need to listen to the word of His Son. Jesus is superior to the angels and prophets. There might be some hidden treasures of wisdom with them, but we are told in Colossians that all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden in Jesus Christ. The Lord is heir of all things, and through Him God created the universe. So you can be quite confident that it is with His words you will discover whatever it is you need.

3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

When you are in the battle you need to be sustained by the powerful word. Also, the Lord is the “exact representation”. Too many people are careless and inexact. I have recently seen people equate “Day of the Lord” with “End of Days” and “Apocalypse” with “Armageddon”. This is inexact.

4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.

When we get a word from Jesus we are getting a much superior word. Jesus is Lord and is sitting at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. You are getting a word from the throne. Angels are not on the throne, they are the servants. They do not inherit all things, they did not create the universe, they are not the radiance of God’s glory, they are not the exact representation of His being. We want to cross this river, we need to be very particular, very specific about who we get our word from. Prophets spoke the word of God but Balaam was also a prophet who spoke the word of God. Angels are servants of God but Lucifer can also disguise himself as an angel of light.

5 For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father”? Or again, “I will be his Father, and he will be my Son”? 6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

God will speak to the angels and give them a word, He will speak to the prophets and give them a word, but that relationship is not on the same level as His relationship with His son. God wants all the angels, all the servants, all the messengers to worship His Son. This is a key goal of this age, that every knee would bow, that every voice would worship the Lord Jesus.

7 In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire.”

They are spirits, a breath, a spoken word, and a burning flame. They can animate, they can enlighten. But they are not forever. They do not sit on the throne, they do not wield the sceptre. Why do you think the call for justice is being ignored? Why do you think we are getting lip service from public officials about fighting for the integrity of the elections while doing nothing?

8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.”

Maybe, if we love righteousness and hate wickedness we should listen to the Lord. Why not ask the guy who has gone before us and been victorious? If you have Michael Jordan on your basketball team why is he sitting on the bench? In the same way since we are on Jesus’ team let’s make sure He is on the floor, He is the one doing the speaking.

10 He also says, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.

The Lord is laying a foundation. He has done it before, He knows what He is doing. Have faith in Him. We have a chance to learn from the very best.

11 They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. 12 You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end.”

The sooner you realize this the better. The “great reset” is all about the worldly system perishing and wearing out. We have seen many “great resets” in the past, we just call them a collapse of the empire. “The Fall of the Roman Empire” for example. The wealthiest and richest people see their kingdom crumbling, they know that it is wearing out and they fear change. The French revolution was change. The Russian revolution was change. The cultural revolution in China was change. They hope to do a “great reset” so that they control the change. They understand that the world’s economy is unsustainable, it is going to go over a cliff. Generally when that happens the bigger they are the harder they fall. So the great reset is their attempt to make sure they cushion the fall with lots and lots of poor people. They are keenly aware that their years will end. John D Rockefeller was the richest man in the world in 1920, 100 years later many of his descendants are simply middle class, and his family is no longer a ruling power.

13 To which of the angels did God ever say, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet”?

Make no mistake, making the enemies of Jesus a footstool for His feet is a key goal for God during this age. If you are the body of Christ, then surely you know who the feet are. There are some very humble believers, they are not billionaires, they are not the “elite”, they are not the “experts” you see on TV telling you what you are supposed to think. But by the end of this age those billionaires and elites will be a place for the most humble members of the Body to rest. We have an expression “take a load off your feet”. These members are the ones who are carrying the load. Well the rich, the famous, the “beautiful people” are destined to become a beautiful footstool fit for the king.

14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

So then, let’s talk about the salvation that we are to inherit.
 

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Revelation 12 -- September 2017

1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;

This is a thorny issue for many Christians. We know that horoscopes and astrology is condemned in the Bible. However we also know that when God created the stars and put them into the heavens they are for signs. It is not just for seasons and times, but also for signs. A great example is during the Lord’s birth when the Magi said they saw His star. Apparently Daniel taught them what the star would be that would signify the Lord’s birth, and that may have been based on Balaam’s prophecy in Numbers 24. So the truth is God created the heavens. There are 12 zodiac signs that we pass through over the course of a year and these 12 from the first sign of the Virgin, or the woman, the daughter of Zion, the bride of Christ, or in this case “a woman clothed with the sun”. To the last sign, Leo, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. This is the alpha and omega of the year and they tell the redemption story. I think you can go off on the deep end reading the story in the stars and it will never be better than the word of God. But when it comes to the signs that are clearly referred to in the word of God like this one, then it is quite interesting.

a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

There is a website unsealed.org that goes into great detail about these signs, if you have an hour and half they have a very informative video that shows you the signs in the heaven when Jesus was born, what the Magi saw, what the star of David was, etc. I thought it was well worth my time, and the visual was very helpful, first time anyone explained to me what they are looking at. So it turns out on September



23rd, 2017 this sign appeared in the sky. There are 9 stars in the constellation Leo plus the three planets Mars, Mercury, and Venus (the ancients called them wandering stars) are in her crown. The Moon is under her feet. She is clothed with the Sun, the Sun goes where the clasp that holds the ancient clothes would have gone.

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Jupiter is the child that she bears. This is interesting because at the time of the Lord’s birth we saw something similar and Jupiter represented the Jesus in His earthly ministry as a king. If you look closely at Jupiter it has stripes like the crucified Christ had on His back and it has a big round wound where the spear was put in the side of Jesus. The only planet brighter than Jupiter is Venus which is called the morning star. The morning star signifies the resurrected Christ. But here the child she is delivering, the man child, is represented by Jupiter as well. These are the ones in the Church that are one with the Lord in His ministry, they are the ones who are bearing their cross and following Him.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

So surrounding this woman are a number of constellations that depict the dragon, a serpent, a scorpion, and even Hercules fighting with a serpent.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

This also occurred at that time. At the bottom of Hydra, the tail of the great serpent, on October 8th 2017 we had a large meteor shower from these cluster of dragon constellations. On that date you had about 200 meteors per hour, over the course of a day there were over 3,000 meteors. Since there are around 10,000 visible stars in the night sky with the human eye, this represents about a third.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

The last time we have had a sign similar to this 3915 BC, and it looked very similar to the prophecy that the seed of the woman would bruise the serpent's head, but the serpent would bruise His heel. But we need to break this down because there are two phrases “she brought forth a man child” and “her child was caught up unto God”. I have always assumed these two events happen together, but they are separated with “and” so they are clearly presented as two distinct events. Being caught up to the heaven depicts the rapture which takes place after the birth of the man child. We are also told that this “man child” is destined to rule, hence to replace the existing rulers.

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

One of the problems we have with these signs is we try to get them to say too much. If you are on the road heading to the Lord’s return and you see a great sign on the side of the road you would never expect the sign to be at the destination, what would be the point? Also, what is the point of creating the stars for a sign, telling us about the sign, if God didn’t want us to see and pay attention to the sign? So this is a sign telling us that the church (the woman) is going to have a “man child” that will be caught up to heaven. That is the rapture. The Lord told us to watch, if you were watching this would have certainly been warned with this sign that we are almost there. The New Testament says that the man of lawlessness (the antichrist) is revealed when those that restrain are taken away. So the man-child were those who were restraining, once they are raptured “all hell breaks loose”. Today we see “those who restrain”. They ask difficult questions of the authorities that they cannot answer, like “is the vaccine safe”, and “is it effective against the virus” and “where did this virus come from” and “why did you lie about this before”. They have censored these people, blocked them from asking questions, and talking about violating all constitutional rights to shut them down. The battle is clearly on.
 

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Revelation 12 is being fulfilled before our eyes right now

The chapter begins with a sign in the heavens fulfilled in 2017, since then we have seen this battle play out with the "Russia, Russia hoax", Mueller investigation, two impeachments, election fraud, and vaccine mandate.

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

There are two groups of Christians, the stronger group that will be raptured to the heavens and with the Lord kick Satan out, and the weaker ones who will be on Earth for the first half of the tribulation. The last six months have made it very clear that there is a “war in heaven”. The war is concerning abortion, race baiting, law and order, election fraud, the vaccine mandate, and censorship.

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

What do we learn about Satan? He deceiveth the whole world. This is what the war is over, we have learned that these media giants, tyrannical governments and tech giants are deceiving the whole world. We are learning about their deception with false flag events, various assassinations including JFK and 911. We now know that all these terrorist attacks were a deception, the OK city bombing, the Madrid bombing, and on and on. They will be cast out of heaven which I think will include being cast out of the US government as well.

This is why it is called the tribulation. The world doesn’t realize that the people who are restraining evil are keeping the whole world from going to hell. But once those who are one with the Holy Spirit are removed, then there is nothing left to restrain the evil. I like the picture as well, as they go up the evil ones come down. The lawless one will be revealed, and things will get really bad. We are moving towards casting the bums out. The audit in Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania is definitely on a path that leads to throwing the bums out. The cyber symposium by Mike Lindell is on a path to reveal election fraud in all 50 states to cast the bums out. Rand Paul and others are on a path to cast Fauci and his ilk out. Revolver, the news agency is on a path to cast the deep state involved in January 6th out. According to the account here there is a war that is going on, not a single battle, but a war on many fronts. We are dealing with the Pandemic, and with the election fraud, and with pedophiles, and with collusion and corruption between politicians, the deep state, and the tech and media giants.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

January 6th is a great example of “the accuser of our brethren”. Videos are coming out exposing all the lies and nasty accusations. We can see the police waving people in, we can see people in the crowd running to the police to do something, we can see the people in the capitol acting like respectful tourists. The facts come out as well, we can see the false accusations of “insurrection” yet no one is charged with having a weapon. We see the false story about the officer being beaten to death changed to dying from Bear spray changed to dying from a stroke that was not related to the event. We can see Ashley Babbit being shot and killed and those in charge hiding the identity of the person who shot her.

There are two sides to this story. If you are raptured to the heavens it is a time of rejoicing. If you are left on the earth it is a time of woe. For many Christians it will be a time of weeping and gnashing of teeth.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

Already in many countries on earth the church is persecuted, but apparently it will become really horrific at this time. The dragon wanted to devour the child but was restrained, held back and unable to. But once the restrainer steps aside there seems to be nothing protecting the woman from persecution.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

My understanding is that “the great eagle” signifies the US. True, Mexico also has an eagle as their national symbol, but they would not be the “great” eagle. I understand this as being a flood of immigrants to the US across our border, even flying in from all over the world. Obviously before that could happen the laws concerning immigration would have to be loosened. But we already accept those fleeing persecution so there is already a solid basis for this. Also the Democrats have thrown the border wide open for political advantage, but once the bums are thrown out we’ll lose many believers but they will be replaced with all those fleeing persecution from Satan. A time, and times and half a time is understood as 3 ½ years which is also what the 1,260 days represents in the Jewish calendar. As a rule our tribulation is only for a short period of time compared to the eternal weight of glory. If I was left on the earth for the 1,260 days I would be counting each day, focused on preparing myself to be taken.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

So here is another example, you have the man child, you have the woman and you have the remnant. The word remnant means “a small remaining quantity of something”. Some are taken, some will remain. Two are in the field, one is taken, one is left behind. This is a common thread whenever the rapture is discussed. This flood that they are referring to is quite unnerving, how many times does the Bible refer to a “flood”? How many times does the “earth open his mouth to swallow up a flood”. As bad as the floods are now in Europe and China I don’t believe this rises to what John is referring to, at least not yet.
 

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Appointed time

I give a few verses with minimal comment to demonstrate that these points are Biblical, but they are also inferential. If you don’t want to receive it that is fine. But my point is to make a few points:
  1. It is very likely that the rapture will be on an appointed day
  2. It is also very likely that the appointed day will be a full moon
  3. It is not necessary, even unlikely that this appointed day would be one of the appointed feasts in Leviticus.
  4. It is very likely that the official religious calendars will be wrong.
  5. Not only so but it is also very likely the official calendars will be giving dates that are too early, rather than too late.
There is a time appointed for everything

Ecclesiastes 3:1 There is a season (a time appointed) for everything and a time for every delight and event or purpose under heaven—

Psalm 102:13 You will arise and have compassion on Zion, For it is time to be gracious and show favor to her; Yes, the appointed time [the moment designated] has come.

Jeremiah 5:24 ‘They do not say in their heart, “Let us now fear and worship the Lord our God [with profound awe and reverence], Who gives rain in its season, Both the autumn and the spring rain, Who keeps for us The appointed weeks of the harvest.”

Daniel 8:19 He said, “Behold, I am going to let you know what will happen during the final time of the indignation and wrath [of God upon the ungodly], for it concerns the appointed time of the end.

Daniel 11:27 And as for both of these kings, their hearts will be set on doing evil; they will speak lies over the same table, but it will not succeed, for the end is yet to come at the appointed time.

Habakkuk 2:3 “For the vision is yet for the appointed [future] time It hurries toward the goal [of fulfillment]; it will not fail. Even though it delays, wait [patiently] for it, Because it will certainly come; it will not delay.

Many are examining the appointed days to see when the rapture is. There is an appointed time for everything and as these verses demonstrate that certainly applies to the end of the age.

Appointed Day = Full Moon

Proverbs 7:18 “Come, let us drink our fill of love until morning; Let us console and delight ourselves with love. 19 “For my husband is not at home. He has gone on a long journey; 20 He has taken a bag of money with him, And he will come home on the appointed day.”

The word translated as “the appointed day” literally means Full Moon. Many, but not all of the festival days took place on a full moon. Many use this verse as a reference to the Lord’s return at the end of the age.

Rapture will involve weeping and gnashing of teeth for the hypocrites

Matthew 24:50 the lord of that servant shall come in a day when he expecteth not, and in an hour when he knoweth not, 51 and shall cut him asunder, and appoint his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.

Luke 12:45 But if that servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and the maidservants, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46 the lord of that servant shall come in a day when he expecteth not, and in an hour when he knoweth not, and shall cut him asunder, and appoint his portion with the unfaithful.


Compare these verses with the verse in Proverbs depicting a hypocrite that is caught cheating at the Lord’s return. We are told that the Lord will return on a full moon, and even the cheater knows this, but it isn’t the day that they expect. Does He return a month earlier than expected? No, it says the servant thinks “My Lord delayeth His coming”, so He comes a month later than expected. According to the official Torah calendar the full moon in July is the 15th of Av. I think it is safe to say that the official Torah calendar may very well represent the opinion of the hypocrites. I say this because they are not following a lunar calendar as given in the Bible but rather are calculating and trying to fit their calendar to the Gregorian calendar. From my reading of the Bible the vernal equinox is the end of the year, therefore the first month of the year must take place after the vernal equinox which is generally March 21/22. Doing that makes the full moon in August the 15th of Av.

Judgement is done on an appointed Day

Matthew 8:29 And they screamed out, “What business do we have [in common] with each other, Son of God? Have You come to torment us before the appointed time [of judgment]?”

Acts 12:21 On an appointed day Herod dressed himself in his royal robes, sat on his throne (tribunal, rostrum) and began delivering a speech to the people.

Acts 17:31 because He has set a day when He will judge the inhabited world in righteousness by a Man whom He has appointed and destined for that task, and He has provided credible proof to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”

1Corinthians 4:5 So do not go on passing judgment before the appointed time, but wait until the Lord comes, for He will both bring to light the [secret] things that are hidden in darkness and disclose the motives of the hearts. Then each one’s praise will come from God.

The rapture is a judgement. If you win a gold medal at the Olympics that is a judgement. If you are disqualified for cheating that also is a judgement. The rapture is not just the firstfruits being caught up to God but also Satan and His angels being judged and cast out of heaven. That takes place on an appointed time of judgement.

The word is made known and revealed at an appointed time

Titus 1:3 and at the appointed time has made known His word and revealed it as His message, through preaching, which was entrusted to me according to the command of God our Savior

Genesis 18:14 Is anything too difficult or too wonderful for the Lord? At the appointed time, when the season [for her delivery] comes, I will return to you and Sarah will have a son.”

We should not be surprised that things that were not revealed to previous generations is now being revealed, this is according to God’s word and is the fulfillment of prophecy.

Leviticus gives us the appointed times of the Lord

Leviticus 23:37 ‘These are the appointed times (established feasts) of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to present an offering by fire to the Lord, a burnt offering and a grain offering, sacrifices and drink offerings, each on its own day.

Because of this people have examined the feasts in Leviticus for the appointed time for the rapture. However, we are told clearly those are the appointed times of the Lord. We are also told that the Lord would come at a time the hypocrites would not expect, and surely the hypocrites would expect one of these feast days. We are also told that no one knows the day or the hour and yet everyone knows these appointed times. It may be that the rapture of Israel as a nation does take place at one of these times, and if it does then I would say Trumpets is my best guess as Passover and Shavuot have already been fulfilled for Israel and what they are really focused on is the coming of the King to set up the messianic kingdom. We also know that after the first rapture the tribulation will begin and will last for seven years. If you say that the tribulation begins on Trumpets, then you would expect the rapture to take place shortly before Trumpets.

The Jews are able to establish for themselves appointed times

Esther 9:27 the Jews established and made it a custom for themselves and for their descendants and for all who joined them, so that they would not fail to celebrate these two days as it was written and at the appointed time annually.

Although there are many appointed days given to us in Leviticus, other appointed days were also made in the Bible.
 

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Appointed time
Appointed Day = Full Moon

Proverbs 7:18 “Come, let us drink our fill of love until morning; Let us console and delight ourselves with love. 19 “For my husband is not at home. He has gone on a long journey; 20 He has taken a bag of money with him, And he will come home on the appointed day.”

The word translated as “the appointed day” literally means Full Moon. Many, but not all of the festival days took place on a full moon. Many use this verse as a reference to the Lord’s return at the end of the age.

Rapture will involve weeping and gnashing of teeth for the hypocrites

Matthew 24:50 the lord of that servant shall come in a day when he expecteth not, and in an hour when he knoweth not, 51 and shall cut him asunder, and appoint his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.

Luke 12:45 But if that servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and the maidservants, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46 the lord of that servant shall come in a day when he expecteth not, and in an hour when he knoweth not, and shall cut him asunder, and appoint his portion with the unfaithful.

Compare these verses with the verse in Proverbs depicting a hypocrite that is caught cheating at the Lord’s return. We are told that the Lord will return on a full moon, and even the cheater knows this, but it isn’t the day that they expect. Does He return a month earlier than expected? No, it says the servant thinks “My Lord delayeth His coming”, so He comes a month later than expected. According to the official Torah calendar the full moon in July is the 15th of Av. I think it is safe to say that the official Torah calendar may very well represent the opinion of the hypocrites. I say this because they are not following a lunar calendar as given in the Bible but rather are calculating and trying to fit their calendar to the Gregorian calendar. From my reading of the Bible the vernal equinox is the end of the year, therefore the first month of the year must take place after the vernal equinox which is generally March 21/22. Doing that makes the full moon in August the 15th of Av.
Now let's look at the incredible coincidence here. According to the Torah calendar the 15th of Av is 7/19 or 7/20 of this year and these verses in Proverbs about the Lord coming home on the Full Moon is also 7:19 and 7:20. Like I said, this hypocrite will say in her heart "my Lord delays His coming". According to the Bible the 15th of Av should be in August.
 

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Lamentations 5 Be a man!

1

Remember, O Jehovah, what is come upon us:

Behold, and see our reproach.

My prayer is that the believers would remember the word of the Lord. There is nothing that has come upon us that is worse than what came upon the Lord Jesus and the apostles. This word has been fully tested by reproach. Paul said that they were the offscouring of all things.

2

Our inheritance is turned unto strangers,

Our houses unto aliens.

My prayer is that the believers would stop loving the world and all that is in it. Jesus Christ is our inheritance and is kept in the heavens for us where thieves cannot break into or steal. Our house is the house of God, the church, it will not be given to aliens.

3

We are orphans and fatherless;

Our mothers are as widows.

My prayer is that you would see that all the brothers and sisters in the church are your brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers.

4

We have drunken our water for money;

Our wood is sold unto us.

Come buy water without money, stop gathering water into broken cisterns.

5

Our pursuers are upon our necks:

We are weary, and have no rest.

Turn to the Lord, be filled with His word, there is a blessing that two will chase ten thousand.

6

We have given the hand to the Egyptians,

And to the Assyrians, to be satisfied with bread.

7

Our fathers sinned, and are not;

And we have borne their iniquities.

The Lord was bruised because of our iniquity, focus on the crucified Christ who was scourged and crucified and you will be healed by his stripes. Add the cross to your bitter water and it will be made sweet.

8

Servants rule over us:

There is none to deliver us out of their hand.

Stop being a wimp, be a man, you are here because you were always trusting in someone else to deliver you, it is time for you to stand and having done all to stand. Embrace the Lord and you will learn that the Lord is with you to deliver.

9

We get our bread at the peril of our lives,

Because of the sword of the wilderness.

We have been dealing with criminals in the streets through all generations.

10

Our skin is black like an oven,

Because of the burning heat of famine.

There is a famine for the word of God. It is real and it is not some phony spiritual famine. If you look at the history of men of faith everything begins with the word of God, they can survive incredible deprivations like what we saw with the Pilgrims or at Valley Forge, etc. You begin with the word of God and then you can learn exactly how little you can survive on and how much you can help and depend on one another.

11

They ravished the women in Zion,

The virgins in the cities of Judah.

Are you talking about Drag Queens doing story hour to preschoolers? Are you talking about these men who identify as women walking around naked in women’s locker rooms? Where did you think all this was heading? Surely you didn’t think that handing out condoms to fifth graders was “cute”?

12

Princes were hanged up by their hand:

The faces of elders were not honored.

Once again, lift up Jesus on the cross, look at Him, they spit on Him, they gave him vinegar to drink, they mocked Him, put a crown of thorns on Him.

13

The young men bare the mill;

And the children stumbled under the wood.

14

The elders have ceased from the gate,

The young men from their music.

Having elders in the gate and music for young men is the fruit of the labor of your fathers and mothers. You despised them, you ignored the stories about the great depression, so now is your turn to do the hard work, but thank God you have a vision of the society you want to bring in.

15

The joy of our heart is ceased;

Our dance is turned into mourning.

You forsook the God of your salvation, return to Him, He will lift you up and then you will surely be able to rejoice and dance and sing.

16

The crown is fallen from our head:

Woe unto us! for we have sinned.

Stop being a wimp, you have been knocked down, get back up.

17

For this our heart is faint;

For these things our eyes are dim;

18

For the mountain of Zion, which is desolate:

The foxes walk upon it.

The mountain of Zion is desolate because all those who were there have been raptured and gathered to the Lord. Now it is your turn to ascend that mountain.

19

Thou, O Jehovah, abidest for ever;

Thy throne is from generation to generation.

There you go, that is the revelation that you need, the God of the previous generation is also the God of this generation. He saved them, He’ll save you. Stop thinking that no one else has ever suffered like you.

20

Wherefore dost thou forget us for ever,

And forsake us so long time?

“So long time?” Really? If you are left behind after the rapture at most you have 3 ½ years of tribulation. That is a momentary lightness of affliction when compared to the eternal weight of glory.

21

Turn thou us unto thee, O Jehovah, and we shall be turned;

Renew our days as of old.

22

But thou hast utterly rejected us;

Thou art very wroth against us.

My goodness, what a bunch of wimps. God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes on Him should not perish. How do you say that He has “utterly rejected” you? He told you that you must take up your cross and follow Him, you rejected that word.
 

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Hebrews 2 -- How shall we escape?

1 We must pay the most careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away.

“Drift away”. You have to carefully tie up your boat to the dock or to the mooring, otherwise it will “drift away”. Sometimes we are wide awake at the helm sailing our boat, but other times we are asleep and at those times we need to pay careful attention that we don’t “drift away”.

2 For since the message spoken through angels was binding, and every violation and disobedience received its just punishment, 3 how shall we escape if we ignore so great a salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him.

How shall we escape? Our great salvation includes everything in the old creation perishing and being rolled up like an old garment. It also includes the enemies of Jesus Christ being made into a beautiful foot stool. Our gospel includes this, that the end of the age will see these things take place. So then, how do we escape? The rapture is referred to as our escape. The greek word actually means to be snatched away right before destruction. You would use this word to describe snatching someone out of the way of an oncoming train. So then, how exactly do we escape? Do we invest in gold? Do we get a rifle and learn to hunt? I have heard messages where they go from discussing the end of the age to the need to invest in gold and silver! That is what it means to “ignore so great a salvation”.

4 God also testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.

It is miraculous to think we will be saved by this “rapture”. However, God has testified to us that this is the case. The Lord’s resurrection is referred to as “the firstfruits” and the rapture is referred to as “the harvest”. Crossing the Red Sea is a miracle showing that God can snatch up the entire nation of Israel from the clutches of the Egyptian army. That is how Israel escaped Egypt. The book of Esther also describes how Israel escaped the clutches of the evil Haman. If you look and pay attention you will find God testifying again and again concerning how we shall escape. Don’t ignore this testimony.

5 It is not to angels that he has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking.

We are going to be kings and priests to God in this world to come. That is why we cannot ignore this salvation, if we do we won’t be ready, we won’t be prepared.

6 But there is a place where someone has testified: “What is mankind that you are mindful of them, a son of man that you care for him? 7 You made them a little lower than the angels; you crowned them with glory and honor 8 and put everything under their feet.”

Isn’t that amazing? Right now there are tens of millions of Americans concerned about the election fraud. But it seems like the “powers that be” are doing everything they can to ignore them. Mainstream media won’t cover them, the Tech giants are censoring them, and the politicians are mouthing the words but not walking the walk. The lesson here is that everything is under our feet, not theirs. Would the “Tech giants” be giants if 70 million Americans ceased to use their services? Would the mainstream media continue to be the “mainstream” media if 70 million Americans ceased to listen to them? Could the US government continue to stand if 70 million Americans ignored these politicians the way they are ignoring them? “A house divided cannot stand”.

In putting everything under them, God left nothing that is not subject to them. Yet at present we do not see everything subject to them.

That is nice talk but we don’t see it. Of course if we look back at our history with the revolutionary war we can see it. We can see a rag tag group of settlers who were made lower than the superpower of the day, and yet everything was under their feet. They had to stand by faith, but they did.

9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

Oh yeah, we also see Jesus. This was just one man objecting to the unrighteousness of the times. He was made lower than all those kings and rulers. And yet, we are still here two thousand years later looking at Jesus while all those other “rulers” have become dust and gone into the ash heap of history.

10 In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered.

Can we please pay attention to this verse? Our great salvation includes us being brought into the glory of the Son of God. Yes He was resurrected, but He was also crucified and that crucifixion didn’t condemn Him, it condemned those that crucified Him. That is a path that Jesus pioneered for us. That is how our salvation is made perfect. That is how everything is put under our feet even though we are made lower than all these rulers and leaders.

11 Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters.

When we are raptured it is not in shame, in defeat. The Lord’s resurrection was victory over death, victory over the grave. We are going to share that glory, we will be part of the same family.

12 He says, “I will declare your name to my brothers and sisters; in the assembly I will sing your praises.”

We will be the family of the resurrected ones, the family of the victorious ones.

13 And again, “I will put my trust in him.”

We will be the family of those who trust in God.

And again he says, “Here am I, and the children God has given me.”

We will be the Lord’s family.

14 Since the children have flesh and blood,he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— 15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death.

The only power these ones have over us is the power of death. If we are the family of the resurrected ones, the ones who have conquered death and the grave, then what power do they have over us?

16 For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham’s descendants. 17 For this reason he had to be made like them, fully human in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people. 18 Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.

So, once again we come back to this question, “how shall we escape?” The same way Jesus did. He is with us to help us take up our cross and follow Him on this path He has pioneered.
 

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Proverbs 17:1-5 Gaslighting

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or a group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or group, making them question their own memory, perception, or judgment.[1] It may evoke changes in them such as cognitive dissonance or low self-esteem, rendering the victim additionally dependent on the gaslighter for emotional support and validation. Using denial, misdirection, contradiction, and misinformation, gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's beliefs.

Instances can range from the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents occurred, to belittling the victim's emotions and feelings, to the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim. The goal of gaslighting is to gradually undermine the victim's confidence in their own ability to distinguish truth from falsehood, right from wrong, or reality from delusion, thereby rendering the individual or group pathologically dependent on the gaslighter for their thinking and feelings.

Signs and methods[edit]
As described by Patricia Evans, seven "warning signs" of gaslighting are the observed abuser's:[25]

  1. Withholding information from the victim;
  2. Countering information to fit the abuser's perspective;
  3. Discounting information;
  4. Using verbal abuse, usually in the form of jokes;
  5. Blocking and diverting the victim's attention from outside sources;
  6. Trivializing ("minimising") the victim's worth; and,
  7. Undermining the victim by gradually weakening them and their thought processes.
1 Better a dry crust with peace and quiet than a house full of feasting, with strife.

This is the fork in the road, this is your choice in the election. You can have a dry crust of bread with peace and quiet or you can have a house full of feasting with strife. However, they will withhold the information about the strife and make the choice “dry crust of bread or house full of feasting”. When the more prudent and wise point out the risk of strife they will discount that. We had the perfect example in this last election. Salaries will go up, everyone gets free medical care, we’ll get rid of the pandemic and the rich will pay for everything. You were promised a house full of feasting. But when you arrive to celebrate this new regime what do you see? A total lockdown of the city, 25,000 troops stationed in Washington DC, fences and barbed wire. The border is thrown open with a crisis down there. They bust the budget with $6 trillion in spending and they are just getting started. You were told you would get $2,000 on day one, then you were told that this included the $600 you already got, and then you learned that many people were exempt (it is now April and I have not received anything). Meanwhile they are already pushing the biggest tax hike in US history.

2 A prudent servant will rule over a disgraceful son and will share the inheritance as one of the family.

Wisdom and prudence will trump your birthright. The US has a birthright, but if you behave disgracefully you can be replaced by those countries who are currently your “servant” because they are prudent and wise.

3 The crucible for silver and the furnace for gold, but the Lord tests the heart.

How many times have I heard that “the Lord is in control”. Yes, the Lord is in control of the furnace and He is testing your heart. Are you going to behave disgracefully, are you going to allow yourself to be gaslit?

4 A wicked person listens to deceitful lips; a liar pays attention to a destructive tongue.

I talked to a con man once and this was his strategy. Wicked people listen to deceitful lips. He wanted wicked people as his clients because once they had been conned they wouldn’t sue him. If you reel them in with a temptation to do something wicked, in order to testify against you in court they will have to reveal this.

5 Whoever mocks the poor shows contempt for their Maker; whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished.

Again, go back to what gaslighting is. They verbally abuse the victims. You were a victim due to your own stupidity, not due to their corruption and evil intent. Many who were conned during the mortgage meltdown blamed themselves, their own stupidity. That is true, they did make a mistake, but it doesn’t absolve the lawyers and bankers who violated their fiduciary responsibility. Why does Clinton call the Trump supporters “deplorable” why does Biden call them “chumps”. They are mocking them. Clinton said they were “irredeemable”. She is showing contempt for their maker. They gloated over the riot at the capitol because it gave them an excuse to blame these people appealing for justice while at the same time denying them justice. They will not go unpunished.
 

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Proverbs 17:6-13 Gaslighting, continued.

6 Children’s children are a crown to the aged, and parents are the pride of their children.

A peace treaty with Israel, a successful economy, a successful trade agreement, better border security and three pro life judges. These are the “children” of the last administration. It is their crown. The people who showed pride in Trump were accused of being cultic. Again, it was gaslighting because what were Biden’s children? He put forth the crime bill, worst bill for the inner city ever by a wide margin. He was against integration of the schools. He gave the eulogy at the most prominent KKK member in the US senate. Kamala Harris is the direct descendant of a slave holder.

7 Eloquent lips are unsuited to a godless fool— how much worse lying lips to a ruler!

Gaslighting is the equivalent of lying lips to a ruler. In order to gaslight you have to be in charge. You have to be able to withhold information, counter information, discount information, speak abusively and derisively. Damage their self esteem, mock the victims, trivialize what happened, etc. For example Schwarzneggar likened to the riot at the Capitol to the night of broken glass. The night of broken glass was when the Nazi government falsely accused a “common man” of a crime that they themselves had perpetrated and then used that excuse to go on a rampage against Jewish businesses, breaking their storefront windows. In this analogy the leaders of the US government who were “outraged” at what took place would be equivalent to the Nazi’s and their use of this as an excuse to go after all those appealing for justice would be equivalent to the Nazi’s going after the Jews. The night of broken glass was an example of gaslighting. Was Schwarznegger trying to tip us off to this without getting attacked by those in power, or was it a false comparison? Hard to say.

8 A bribe is seen as a charm by the one who gives it; they think success will come at every turn.

The Tech giants provided hundreds of millions of dollars in bribes to swing the election. They were like snake charmers thinking they could create an alternate reality. Gaslighting may be done by those in charge but it is paid for with bribes. However, look at how arrogant they are. They think they can cancel their biggest and best accounts. Without a doubt Trump and the thousands of accounts that have been suspended or permanently removed from Twitter and Facebook were the most active. They involve a hundred million subscribers who actively viewed and retweeted the posts. That is 50% of Twitters users. You have to be very arrogant to think you can kick 50% of your customers out. Look at the big box stores who are kicking Mike Lindell’s pillows out of their stores. These companies are on the brink of collapse with the pandemic and people avoiding malls. They will now, on top of everything else, incur a loss of 50% of their customers. This is just idiotic. AOC calls people to cancel Goya and the next month Goya names her the #1 salesperson.

9 Whoever would foster love covers over an offense, but whoever repeats the matter separates close friends.

We have watched this for many years now. The reporting of the “news” is no longer a fair accounting of all the news that’s fit to print. No, now it is all the stories that can “separate close friends”. Stories are pretend with innuendo, and design so that people would believe the worst and assume the worst. For three months we heard that Trump would use the military to prevent Biden from taking office. It was horrific. He incited violence by telling people to peacefully make their voices heard. He was in the oval office plotting insurrection. Now that this has been shown to be completely false do they apologize, do they hold the people who had an agenda to stir up the American people with these stories accountable? Nope.

10 A rebuke impresses a discerning person more than a hundred lashes a fool.

What is happening in this country is a rebuke to the Christians. We allowed this. It didn’t happen overnight. We slept while this crept in.

11 Evildoers foster rebellion against God; the messenger of death will be sent against them.

Make no mistake, what is going on is rebellion against God. It is not about Trump, it is not about Republicans. This is all about people who are pro life, pro Bible, pro God, pro worship, pro Church. The messenger of death was sent to Pharaoh at the Passover. Today the Pandemic is the "messenger of death". The evidence is coming in that this pandemic was created in a bioweapons lab in Wuhan with one overarching goal in mind: give the crooks power. By destroying the world's economy it was the only way they would defeat Trump during the election. Creating a pandemic passport will increase their ability to track every person on this planet. They may have already had this power but it couldn't be used in court, the passport can.

12 Better to meet a bear robbed of her cubs than a fool bent on folly.

Listen to the Left after their “election victory”. Openly proclaiming the need for black lists, to make sure no one who supported the other candidate ever works again, doxing people, calling for reeducation camps, censorship and book burning. These are fools bent on folly.

13 Evil will never leave the house of one who pays back evil for good.

I think the whole country realizes this second impeachment is just despicable and in their heart they know that doing this is not the end, it is the beginning. Evil will never leave the house after this.
 

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Bible Codes

There was an article in the Journal of statistical science in 1994 that demonstrated there were codes hidden in the Bible called Equal Letter spaced codes, this movie explains the science behind this and the controversy (it is considered scientific proof that God wrote the Bible). The person who signed off on this research was the foremost statistician in the world who was also the founder of a group of skeptics which like to disprove commonly held myths and beliefs. He refused to sign off on the study until they checked 1 million other books including War and Peace, Moby Dick, etc. It took them 4 1/2 years to run the same searches on those books. But after checking 1 million books this world famous skeptic had no choice but to put his name to this paper and once he did that the Journal of statistical science had no choice but to publish it.

Some of the searches they have run have odds greater than 1 out of a billion to take place randomly, but when all the searches are taken combined the odds are far, far greater than that, a number so great we don’t have a name for it.

This video explains the science:

Since publishing they have found far more Bible codes, they put in various events like 911, Corona virus, JFK, Holocaust, etc. They looked for 300 key people and events in human history and found all of them. In fact they have found so many that I have a new theory on what is going on. My theory is that "all things came into being through the word and apart from the word nothing has come into being that has come into being".

As a result there are now online companies that will find your name in the Bible code. They take personal information, date of birth, parent's names, city of birth, spouses names, children's names and then find the "page" where all this is found.

As you can imagine this is extremely controversial, this is essentially scientific proof that the Bible is the word of God so you can see how that would provoke atheists. Not only so but many imagine they can use this for nefarious purposes, CIA, Mossad, MI5, etc. Of course others think they can use this for divination.

I have seen some interesting pages, for example the Twin Towers and many other terms concerning that event including 911 show up on the page where we see the judgement on Israel for building the golden calf. In both of those events "about 3,000 people were killed". In my case I was born on Nisan 17 and they found my name on the page that is read on the third day of Passover (Nisan 17).
 
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Revelation 12 is being fulfilled before our eyes right now

The chapter begins with a sign in the heavens fulfilled in 2017, since then we have seen this battle play out with the "Russia, Russia hoax", Mueller investigation, two impeachments, election fraud, and vaccine mandate.

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

There are two groups of Christians, the stronger group that will be raptured to the heavens and with the Lord kick Satan out, and the weaker ones who will be on Earth for the first half of the tribulation. The last six months have made it very clear that there is a “war in heaven”. The war is concerning abortion, race baiting, law and order, election fraud, the vaccine mandate, and censorship.

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

What do we learn about Satan? He deceiveth the whole world. This is what the war is over, we have learned that these media giants, tyrannical governments and tech giants are deceiving the whole world. We are learning about their deception with false flag events, various assassinations including JFK and 911. We now know that all these terrorist attacks were a deception, the OK city bombing, the Madrid bombing, and on and on. They will be cast out of heaven which I think will include being cast out of the US government as well.

This is why it is called the tribulation. The world doesn’t realize that the people who are restraining evil are keeping the whole world from going to hell. But once those who are one with the Holy Spirit are removed, then there is nothing left to restrain the evil. I like the picture as well, as they go up the evil ones come down. The lawless one will be revealed, and things will get really bad. We are moving towards casting the bums out. The audit in Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania is definitely on a path that leads to throwing the bums out. The cyber symposium by Mike Lindell is on a path to reveal election fraud in all 50 states to cast the bums out. Rand Paul and others are on a path to cast Fauci and his ilk out. Revolver, the news agency is on a path to cast the deep state involved in January 6th out. According to the account here there is a war that is going on, not a single battle, but a war on many fronts. We are dealing with the Pandemic, and with the election fraud, and with pedophiles, and with collusion and corruption between politicians, the deep state, and the tech and media giants.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

January 6th is a great example of “the accuser of our brethren”. Videos are coming out exposing all the lies and nasty accusations. We can see the police waving people in, we can see people in the crowd running to the police to do something, we can see the people in the capitol acting like respectful tourists. The facts come out as well, we can see the false accusations of “insurrection” yet no one is charged with having a weapon. We see the false story about the officer being beaten to death changed to dying from Bear spray changed to dying from a stroke that was not related to the event. We can see Ashley Babbit being shot and killed and those in charge hiding the identity of the person who shot her.

There are two sides to this story. If you are raptured to the heavens it is a time of rejoicing. If you are left on the earth it is a time of woe. For many Christians it will be a time of weeping and gnashing of teeth.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

Already in many countries on earth the church is persecuted, but apparently it will become really horrific at this time. The dragon wanted to devour the child but was restrained, held back and unable to. But once the restrainer steps aside there seems to be nothing protecting the woman from persecution.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

My understanding is that “the great eagle” signifies the US. True, Mexico also has an eagle as their national symbol, but they would not be the “great” eagle. I understand this as being a flood of immigrants to the US across our border, even flying in from all over the world. Obviously before that could happen the laws concerning immigration would have to be loosened. But we already accept those fleeing persecution so there is already a solid basis for this. Also the Democrats have thrown the border wide open for political advantage, but once the bums are thrown out we’ll lose many believers but they will be replaced with all those fleeing persecution from Satan. A time, and times and half a time is understood as 3 ½ years which is also what the 1,260 days represents in the Jewish calendar. As a rule our tribulation is only for a short period of time compared to the eternal weight of glory. If I was left on the earth for the 1,260 days I would be counting each day, focused on preparing myself to be taken.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

So here is another example, you have the man child, you have the woman and you have the remnant. The word remnant means “a small remaining quantity of something”. Some are taken, some will remain. Two are in the field, one is taken, one is left behind. This is a common thread whenever the rapture is discussed. This flood that they are referring to is quite unnerving, how many times does the Bible refer to a “flood”? How many times does the “earth open his mouth to swallow up a flood”. As bad as the floods are now in Europe and China I don’t believe this rises to what John is referring to, at least not yet.


The woman is Israel, the remnant is the people of Israel who come to faith in Messiah and realize that the "messiah" is actually the antichrist when he declares himself God at the halfway mark and flee to Petra in Jordan along with left behind Christians in Judea and the 144,000 Christ believing Jews. Petra is prone to flash floods. They will be sustained by God for 3.5 years in the wilderness of Jordan/Petra. The tribulation is the time on JACOB'S trouble, the church is not appointed to wrath although many will be left behind, these are the tribulation saints. Who are innumerable and seen in heaven, that means that most will die of pestilences (notice it's plural), war, earthquakes, seas roaring, extreme weather, and at the half way point beheading if they don't take the mark, but these will be under the altar of God until all who have yet to die that way are complete. Then of course there's famines and all the water turns bitter and wormwood. The US is only verbally heard of questioning Gog of Magog (Russia) if he comes to take a spoil? In Israel's northern border with the armies of Iran, Turkey, Sudan, Libya, they (the US) are the young lions of Tarshish (descendants of UK) This event is at the very beginning after the rapture. The 144,000 are messianic Jews (young men) who come to faith in Christ and evangelize everybody along with the 2 witnesses in Israel and finally angels flying around declaring the gospel and telling people not to take the mark of the beast. Then the last part 3.5 years will be so horrific that it will be nearly impossible to survive, only 1/3 of Jews survive in ISRAEL that will call on He who comes in the name of the Lord. And all the world will be faced with the mark of the beast and will not be able to buy or sell if they do not worship the beast. The US will most likely be one of "the seven shepherds" with eight priestly men, (the 8th is Jesus) who are seven countries who join in the war against the AC's armies in Micah 5 but this is at the end of the tribulation when Jesus has returned. The "bums in govt. you speak of will most likely be dead from all I mentioned above, or have taken the mark and the remaining tribulation survivors will take over the leadership and finally come to Israel's aid.
 

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The woman is Israel, the remnant is the people of Israel who come to faith in Messiah and realize that the "messiah" is actually the antichrist when he declares himself God at the halfway mark and flee to Petra in Jordan along with left behind Christians in Judea and the 144,000 Christ believing Jews. Petra is prone to flash floods. They will be sustained by God for 3.5 years in the wilderness of Jordan/Petra. The tribulation is the time on JACOB'S trouble, the church is not appointed to wrath although many will be left behind, these are the tribulation saints. Who are innumerable and seen in heaven, that means that most will die of pestilences (notice it's plural), war, earthquakes, seas roaring, extreme weather, and at the half way point beheading if they don't take the mark, but these will be under the altar of God until all who have yet to die that way are complete. Then of course there's famines and all the water turns bitter and wormwood. The US is only verbally heard of questioning Gog of Magog (Russia) if he comes to take a spoil? In Israel's northern border with the armies of Iran, Turkey, Sudan, Libya, they (the US) are the young lions of Tarshish (descendants of UK) This event is at the very beginning after the rapture. The 144,000 are messianic Jews (young men) who come to faith in Christ and evangelize everybody along with the 2 witnesses in Israel and finally angels flying around declaring the gospel and telling people not to take the mark of the beast. Then the last part 3.5 years will be so horrific that it will be nearly impossible to survive, only 1/3 of Jews survive in ISRAEL that will call on He who comes in the name of the Lord. And all the world will be faced with the mark of the beast and will not be able to buy or sell if they do not worship the beast. The US will most likely be one of "the seven shepherds" with eight priestly men, (the 8th is Jesus) who are seven countries who join in the war against the AC's armies in Micah 5 but this is at the end of the tribulation when Jesus has returned. The "bums in govt. you speak of will most likely be dead from all I mentioned above, or have taken the mark and the remaining tribulation survivors will take over the leadership and finally come to Israel's aid.
That sounds like a very good summary of what many think will happen.

I have steered away from this kind of summary in this blog because my thought is that if we don't know when the tribulation begins how can we think we know so much about what happens after it starts? We might be right but it was my burden to focus all my attention on that first event, all the signs that tell us to look up our redemption draweth nigh, what that time frame will be like, what we can expect to see in the church, in the world, in the government, etc.
 
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The woman is Israel, the remnant is the people of Israel who come to faith in Messiah and realize that the "messiah" is actually the antichrist when he declares himself God at the halfway mark and flee to Petra in Jordan along with left behind Christians in Judea and the 144,000 Christ believing Jews. Petra is prone to flash floods. They will be sustained by God for 3.5 years in the wilderness of Jordan/Petra. The tribulation is the time on JACOB'S trouble, the church is not appointed to wrath although many will be left behind, these are the tribulation saints. Who are innumerable and seen in heaven, that means that most will die of pestilences (notice it's plural), war, earthquakes, seas roaring, extreme weather, and at the half way point beheading if they don't take the mark, but these will be under the altar of God until all who have yet to die that way are complete. Then of course there's famines and all the water turns bitter and wormwood. The US is only verbally heard of questioning Gog of Magog (Russia) if he comes to take a spoil? In Israel's northern border with the armies of Iran, Turkey, Sudan, Libya, they (the US) are the young lions of Tarshish (descendants of UK) This event is at the very beginning after the rapture. The 144,000 are messianic Jews (young men) who come to faith in Christ and evangelize everybody along with the 2 witnesses in Israel and finally angels flying around declaring the gospel and telling people not to take the mark of the beast. Then the last part 3.5 years will be so horrific that it will be nearly impossible to survive, only 1/3 of Jews survive in ISRAEL that will call on He who comes in the name of the Lord. And all the world will be faced with the mark of the beast and will not be able to buy or sell if they do not worship the beast. The US will most likely be one of "the seven shepherds" with eight priestly men, (the 8th is Jesus) who are seven countries who join in the war against the AC's armies in Micah 5 but this is at the end of the tribulation when Jesus has returned. The "bums in govt. you speak of will most likely be dead from all I mentioned above, or have taken the mark and the remaining tribulation survivors will take over the leadership and finally come to Israel's aid.
PS Christians didn't give birth to the Messiah Israel did, Mary, a Jew, from the tribe of Judah. The twelve stars are the twelve tribes of Israel.
 

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Luke 22:8 So Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and prepare the Passover meal for us, so that we may eat it.” 9 They asked Him, “Where do You want us to prepare it?” 10 He replied, “When you have entered the city, a [b]man carrying an earthen jar of water will meet you; follow him into the house that he enters. 11 And say to the owner of the house, ‘The Teacher asks, “Where is the guest room in which I may eat the Passover with My disciples?”’ 12 Then he will show you a large upstairs room, furnished [with carpets and dining couches]; prepare the meal there.” 13 They left and found it just as He had told them; and they prepared the Passover.

There is a lot of symbolism here. "A man carrying an earthen jar of water" appears to be the constellation Aquarius. A large upstairs room sounds like the room that we are raptured to. The room is furnished but there we "prepare the meal", sounds like the wedding feast. The rapture takes place 7 days prior to this feast (sounds like 7 years of tribulation prior to this feast). I think according to the interpretation of the constellations the "room" that we are led to is Cancer.
 
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oh, just wanted to say that God revealed to me the 12 signs of the zodiac's true meanings, I had to guess and He would tell me yes or no. I was right in guessing that the sign of Aquarius, the water bearer, represents the Holy spirit which pictures a man pouring out a vessel of water. This is the Holy Spirit pouring out His Spirit on all flesh, which is to happen right after the rapture. Old men will dream dreams and young men will see visions, sons and daughters will prophecy. This is still future. Well on Tu B'Av on the 24th of July, the minor Jewish Holiday of love dating back to the second temple period, the Buck Moon with it's partial eclipse entered into Aquarius on Friday, July 23 at 10:37 p.m. EST making it 24th in Israel which is 7 hours ahead of EST. It is also the time of the Av 5th month (Jul/Aug) Summer heat. Vintage (grape harvest). The 23rd of July is also the first day the sun goes into Leo which is the sign of The Lion from the Tribe of Judah, the 22nd of July ends Cancer which represents pestilence and tribulation (it ends it for the saints caught up). The signs actually do start with Aries which represents Adam the first and Pisces the sign of the Fish/Fishes the last. Which is the sign of 2 fish tied together at their tails which is Jesus/Father being one. The symbol for Pisces is also amazing because it looks like an H with the two fish being joined in the middle by a line which is the Holy Spirit, and interestingly, God added and H to Abram's name as well as an H to Sarai's name which gave them the power of creation. Although Leo also represents Jesus when He returns it is actually King David that He shares the sign with. Pisces is said to be the ending of all the signs. Also Pisces represents the end of the road for the zodiac wheel and as such Pisceans contain a bit of every sign that has come before it. They are the universal sign of completion and contain all the gifts of the other signs. I asked, and Jesus answered me and said He was born on the 19th of February at midnight, the first day and the first hour of Pisces! I was definitely amazed!

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The symbol of Pisces, the two fish, hence, represents that spirituality. Another interpretation of the Pisces sign by the astrologists focuses on the loop shape formed by the two fish swimming in opposite directions. This loop represents the “cycle” as nothing ever ends.