Who's son was Cain really?

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Feb 5, 2015
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Some Christians believe, and I don't want to mentions those followers names, believe that Abel was Adam's son and Cain the Serpent's.
It is believed that the Serpent was an upright creature between a chimpanzee and a human, walking on 4 legs.
The fruit that Eve ate weren't a literal fruit but sex.
The Serpent was the 1st one to have sex with Eve and then Adam had sex with Eve all in the space of 24 hours.
It is also believed that the two trees in the Garden of Eden wasn't literal trees, but that the Tree of Knowledge was Satan and the Tree of Life was Christ.
The man that many people follow claimed to be a prophet and that he could tell by Revelation what really happened in the Garden.
What is your comments?:)
 
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BurdenBarer4U

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Yes Cain was Satan's seed! Not only does the Bible prove it, but it had been recorded and believed all down through history, until about 300 Ad, when Satan started deceiving people that it was a apple that caused Adam and Eve to realize that they were naked! Also Satan was an upright beast so close to a man, that he could talk and also intermingle his seed with Adams! He was the missing link that science could never find, because after the act, God cursed him to the ground into a serpent form!

Also, Eve told God that he beguiled her,( which means to be sexually seduced)!
And its been proven for years, that 2 different men, one black and one white could have relations with the same women with in 24hours, and her have twins with one being white, and the other being black!
Also, why did God curse the women's body in her fertility department?
It was definitely not from eating a apple!!!!!!

And if you study the lineage of that wicked Cain, it also proves that he was of his father Satan! Until later, the sons of God started to intermarry with the seed line of Cain, which God directly commanded them not to do!
Able was humble and righteous as his father, and Cain was a murder and wicked like his father! Able was like God, and was connected to him, even as we seen as by his revelation from Heaven, he knew that the Lamb of God was slain before the foundation of the world, therefor offered a lamb for his sacrifice! But then Cain's father's anger and wicked nature arose in Cain, as he was rejected by God, and rose up and killed Able!

Even Jesus preached about it, he told the Pharisee's you are of your father the devil!
The said no, were of Abraham's seed! ( The lineage of Able and Seth ) But Jesus rebuked them again and said, if you were Abrahams seed, then his works you would do. But your of your father the wicked one, and his deed's you shall do! And they did just as Jesus said that they would do. With that wicked seed inside them like there father Cain, they killed the Lord, the Righteous One!
Cain was the son of Satan the wicked one! And you can see shortly after the birth of the Holy Ghost church, that same murderous wicked seed arose in the
Roman Catholic's, who killed and demonically murdered millions of True Christians!
 
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BurdenBarer4U

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One more comment and proof! God proved this too, by Jesus having to be virgin born
by Mary! God new it was sex that caused the fall, and that's why he would prove and show the world, that he came into this world bypassing the fallen way, to prove the Eternal way. Which was by the Spoken word and of the Holy Spirit!
 
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My brother, listen very carefully to yourself, "Satan was an upright beast so close to a man "

Are you sure? Where in Scripture is proving that except for you theory of what you call revelation.
What I do see in Scripture is that Satan was a cherub, not a beast so close to a man.
When sin was discovered in him, did God made him into a beast of the field and then cursed him?
Satan is still an angelic being, fallen or not, that's what he is, an angel, a fallen one.
What happened there in the Garden was that he chose a body from amongst the animals to possess it [just as he does even today, and his demons, demon possession] whereby he could get closer to Eve.
It was like Balaam's donkey that could speak at that time.
Jesus turned to Peter and rebuked Peter, but it wasn't actually Peter Jesus rebuked, it was the one negatively influencing Peter. "But He turned and said unto Peter [just as He did with the Serpent], get thee behind Me, Satan:"
We also read of, "Then entered Satan into Judas..." (Lk.22:3)

It was the beginning of mankind. There was no one available that Satan could enter in to possess because sin was not in the world yet, making it possible for him to do so.

Now in my Bible, I read, "And Adam knew his wife: and she conceived, and bare Cain"
I dont lmow what Bible you reading but mine clearly says that Can was Adam's son according to the flesh, but according to the spirit, Satan's

Now if we are to believe that it was not a literal fruit, but sex, then what was the fruit of the Tree of Life?
So then we are to believe that God was so fearful that lest man should have sex with the Tree of Life and live forever?? "and now, lest he put forth his hand [are we by this now to understand the sexual organs] and take also of the Tree of Life, and eat [have sex].

"Who told you that you were naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree [suppose we must understand here, God was referring to sex] whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat [have sex I suppose?]

If you say that it was sex in the case of the fruit of knowledge of good & evil what's it then in the case of the fruit of the tree of life?
That is the danger when we spiritualise things that's to be taken literal.

"To him that overcometh I [Pers. Pron.] will give to eat of the [Determiner] tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God"
The tree of life that was guarded by two cherubim in the beginning appears at the end of time and new beginning in eternity in Paradise (Rev.22:2)

Adam and Eve failed to keep the commandments of God and was denied excess to the tree of life whereas they that do His commandments is granted excess to the tree of life.
(Rev.22:14)

Also, Eve told God that he beguiled her,( which means to be sexually seduced)! Your quote
Paul is using the very scripture of Genesis of how the woman was beguiled, concerning false Apostles and Teachers beguiling men through subtlety under influence of that old Serpent. (2Cor.11:3)
 
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I've got a lot to say if I can be permitted to speak. God is not the author of confusion so who does that leave the position open to? I'm sure many in here are enjoying the drama like watching a soap opera. Well,like a dog returning to its vomit like it's said,I must speak up. Yes I made the mistake of taking one last peak at the website and got lured in after I read a few things.who is the Spirit of Truth? Who is it that will guide us into all truth? Revelation is good if it benefits the Body of Christ. It its just to lift ones self I would take it as not from God. I have personally had several "revelations" from God and all was to benefit the Body of Christ. To build up the church. I'm thinking of two scriptures at this moment:This is from the Holy Spirit I believe. Let our brothers and sister judge this:

2 Peter 1:20 KJV
[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Acts 17:21 KJV
[21] (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)

Though I do love all of my brothers and sisters I WILL NOT just except everything I hear. If it does not agree with the inward witness don't except it.

Galatians 1:6-9 KJV
[6] I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: [7] Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. [8] But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. [9] As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
The gospel talked about in Gal.1 is talking about the gospel of GRACE. This is the good news along with JESUS and him crucified to put us in that position. Grace and TRUTH came by JESUS Christ.
These things you speak are fables not facts. They are false and they are deceiving spirits. I would ask out loud next time these voices speak to you whether in your head or audible "did JESUS come in the flesh"? Test those spirits.See what answer you get. Maybe after this letter I won't be welcomed in here anymore,well that's fine,but I must speak what I believe I'm being led to speak. I'd rather obey God than any man any day. Really the whole message is simple and that's the way God wants to keep it. Their is power in the simplicity of the gospel. It is JESUS Christ and him crucified.

Romans 1:16 KJV
[16] For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
1 Corinthians 2:1-2 KJV
[1] And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. [2] For I determined not to know any thing among you, except Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
We need to examine ourselves and see whether we are in the faith or not.
5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified.

To my brothers who posted this know that I still love you as brothers in Christ,but strongly disagree with your posts or blog. I believe many other christians will agree with me on this,but won't speak up for whatever reason and so I speak on their behalf also. If you agree it would be nice to be heard,but if I stand alone I'll just stand alone. God is with me. Leo
 
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Notice in these two scriptures that the Hebrew word for (beguile & deceive) are the same exact meaning and it DOES NOT mean to have sex with. The serpent (tricked) Eve not had sex with her.


Genesis 3:13 KJV
[13] And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent (beguiled) me, and I did eat.


2 Kings 18:29 KJV
[29] Thus saith the king, Let not Hezekiah (deceive) you: for he shall not be able to deliver you out of his hand:


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נָשָׁא nasha'
Verb naw-shaw'
a primitive root
a primitive root; to lead astray, i.e. (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce:--beguile, deceive, greatly, utterly.
to beguile, deceive
(Niphal) to be beguiled
(Hiphil) to beguile, deceive
(Qal) utterly (infinitif)
 
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Thank you brother's for your impute, But you have over looked all the scripture truth in this matter! The tree's in the bible also refers to men! The tree of life was Jesus Christ, and the tree of Knowledge of good and evil was the beast whom Satan dwelt in! Cain was not Adams son! He was wicked just like his father! Even Eve said that this fruit was pleasant to the eye's and well to be desired! God is speaking in parables here, but its all revealed through out the bible! I could spend much more time explaining this truth, but I think we will just have to wait till we stand in Glory, for us to see the truth of it! But for me and many believers around the world, and the Bible saints up until 300 AD. This truth is Thus saith the Lord!
 
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My brother Burden you contradicting yourself now. "Also Satan was an upright beast so close to a man that's" what you said in the beginning now you changing to say that "the beast whom Satan dwelt in"

As is explained by brother Lion, the word beguile in the original does not come close to mean to have sex with.
I do agree that spiritually discerned that man is likened unto trees, sheep etc.
But we erring to spiritualize this incident in Garden about the two trees.
Please tell me, If the tree of Knowledge was the wicked and the fruit from this tree was sex, what was the fruit from the tree of life then which was Christ?
So Eve after having sex with the devil was gonna have sex with the tree of life which was Christ?