A walk in the park

[surfer14]

If you read my first post you will understand I have not spoken lies. ("I instinctively call him by his childhood name and identify her as he,") I did used mixed gender references to highlight the ambiguity that is encountered in this bizarre circumstance. I am sorry if my attempt at creative writing fell a little short.

Ughhh. Total miscommunication. I wasn't accusing you of anything. You've got enough on your plate. I was just trying to encourage you. Don't give up! Don't give in!

 

[HisKid]

I really worry about his future. He is 29yo and in his best years. He is healthy, young and strong. I'm not so sure this works out so well when he is 50, showing age, used up and just another "Tranny". I am kept in the dark as my family knows my values and they avoid any discussions with me but I believe he has gone beyond the point of return, if you understand.

I assume you mean he underwent surgery to mutilate his body beyond repair.?

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[Seeker47]

I assume you mean he underwent surgery to mutilate his body beyond repair.?

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Yes, but praise Yahuah he is not yet beyond repair. He gives us hope.

 

[surfer14]

I assume you mean he underwent surgery to mutilate his body beyond repair.?

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Doesn't matter. Spirit greater than mind. Mind greater than body. Body mutilization is just an indicator of spirit and mind sickness. We should be praying for spirit and mind renewal.

 

[Ann-Marie]

Your counsel is wise. I am aware of the effect his decision will potentially have on him. I cannot see anything but misery and death. I love this little guy.

One of the reasons I posted this thread, and it was difficult; is to also highlight the dangers parents face when their children leave home for college. These kids are in read danger if they fall under the spell of the evil that is the liberal American universities. Parents may not be aware of the potential dangers; these people care for nothing but their own agendas. I believe my Grandson is a victim of a liberal agenda he did not understand. I simply would not let any High School graduate attend a school away from home and out of parental view. It is playing roulette.

You might want to look into this. I don't think "liberal colleges" affect sexual orientation. If you ask his Mom, I think she will tell you she sensed it long ago. At least this is what I have heard from other Evangelical mothers whose sonsturned out to be homosexual. By the timethey get to college, they already are homosexual. it is not a choice.

No person can choose it. I know I could not. Could you make this choice? When did we all decide to be heterosexual? Why make a choice that would make your life very very difficult.

I wish you well.

 

[HisKid]

You might want to look into this. I don't think "liberal colleges" affect sexual orientation. If you ask his Mom, I think she will tell you she sensed it long ago. At least this is what I have heard from other Evangelical mothers whose sonsturned out to be homosexual. By the timethey get to college, they already are homosexual. it is not a choice.

No person can choose it. I know I could not. Could you make this choice? When did we all decide to be heterosexual? Why make a choice that would make your life very very difficult.

I wish you well.

Nobody chooses to be heterosexual. Everyone is created heterosexual. The homosexual lifestyle is a choice.

 

[Seeker47]

Thank you for your post, I greatly appreciate the time you took to read and reply. I also appreciate your views.

I was very close to this young man. I did not sense any inclinations. I know absolutely that the "educational" environment he entered encouraged and supported his decisions, including isolating him from his familial support. I don't really know if the university caused or supported his dysfunction, and to be honest it is irrelevant.

The effects of this have devastated my family relationships. My warning to parents is honest and heartfelt.

 

[presidente]

Like many families, we have dealt with the difficulties of homosexual relatives. My wife and I continue to have a loving relationship with our gay relatives, even while maintaining our sense of right and wrong. It’s difficult but God’s grace makes it possible.

We are now dealing with an issue that makes homosexuality seem like a walk in the park, a transexual grandson.

His parents have fully embraced his choice so they can maintain a relationship with him. (I call that blackmail). I instinctively call him by his childhood name and identify her as he, a major faux pas. My daughter has corrected my speech several times; that hasn’t gone well. We now just ignore each other on this issue. This issue has changed our relationship.

We love the person we know; we do not know “Helen”. I took him on trips, we went fishing and camping, read books together, held long conversations; I taught him to drive. We enjoyed each other’s company. He went off to college. Now, we don’t even know what she looks like. How do we talk to him? Do we dare bring up the past when she was a he? What do we do if, (actually when), I have a slip of the tongue and say his name or use a gender specific pronoun? Do I give her a hug? Compliment him on her appearance? What should I buy her for a birthday gift? Will we ever really have a relationship again or will it always be like walking on land mines?

Anyway, my only solution so far has been to stay away, to avoid the pain and confusion. It feels like killing my own grandson.

I wouldn't call a boy who grew up a boy 'she.' I would feel like lying to me. I also would not complement a boy dressed like a girl on his appearance. Any positive comment would be dishonest. Transexual men look disgusting to me. If someone looks bad, I usually do not comment on it, unless of course I knew them well, which you do in this case.

I feel bad for your grandson. There aren't enough people around with the combination of good sense, basic decency, and a minimal amount of courage to tell people going through this that what they are contemplating is crazy. I have read that 40+% of those who go through the full transexual surgery commit suicide. Johns Hopkins was a leader in it, but stopped because it was so damaging, and started back up when it became so socially acceptable, I hear. Now, after the SCOTUS forced the 'gay marriage' garbage on our society, sanity seems to have gone with it. What people are encouraging is so damaging.

There are also these kids who want acceptance, attention, etc. who hear other kids on TicToc, teachers at school, etc. feed them this crazy stupid philosophy about transgenerism, there not being any gender, etc. who identify as some made-up gender or who want hormones or surgery. Then idiotic, foolish, evil adults will encourage them in their self-harm.


I'll pray for you. This is a difficult situation.

 

[Seeker47]

Your prayers are thankfully received.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Like many families, we have dealt with the difficulties of homosexual relatives. My wife and I continue to have a loving relationship with our gay relatives, even while maintaining our sense of right and wrong. It’s difficult but God’s grace makes it possible.

We are now dealing with an issue that makes homosexuality seem like a walk in the park, a transexual grandson.

His parents have fully embraced his choice so they can maintain a relationship with him. (I call that blackmail). I instinctively call him by his childhood name and identify her as he, a major faux pas. My daughter has corrected my speech several times; that hasn’t gone well. We now just ignore each other on this issue. This issue has changed our relationship.

We love the person we know; we do not know “Helen”. I took him on trips, we went fishing and camping, read books together, held long conversations; I taught him to drive. We enjoyed each other’s company. He went off to college. Now, we don’t even know what she looks like. How do we talk to him? Do we dare bring up the past when she was a he? What do we do if, (actually when), I have a slip of the tongue and say his name or use a gender specific pronoun? Do I give her a hug? Compliment him on her appearance? What should I buy her for a birthday gift? Will we ever really have a relationship again or will it always be like walking on land mines?

Anyway, my only solution so far has been to stay away, to avoid the pain and confusion. It feels like killing my own grandson.

Pray that God will intervene its not a good path he’s being set on. I think in your post here we can see that when we allow what seems harmless to take root it starts to be acceptable to the group and sooner or later it spreads among d out from where it roots in someone’s mind

I don’t have a grandson so I can’t speak to the heart matter you are struggling with but I know for a fact God loves and adores your grandson , so it’s important not to allow as far as you can speak , him to be set on a path that is opposed to the lords design

prayer I know is the most powerful thing a Christian has of its done knowing Bod hears us , and always wants our salvation. Quiet prayer that no one but the lord hears coming from a concerned heart for another , can accomplish much more than we can ourselves by thinking it through it sounds like it may be more of the parents issue than the child’s

 

[Seeker47]

It is so easy to overlook the fact that, "God loves and adores your grandson". Thank you for keeping the focus exactly where it belongs. Sometimes in my struggle even I need that reminder.

 

[tstumf]

I don’t have many words that I feel I can add here directly to your situation. but I will say I am so sorry you are going through this and as a man about your grandson’s age I will say it is a tough time to be a young man, especially if you are trying to live in true masculinity because so much of our culture is attacking masculinity left and right. It’s a constant barrage (toxic masculinity) this or (male chauvinist) that, there is always some kind of sex scandal being broke on the news. The colleges are encouraging it. kids are losing their innocence way too early in life. My State is thankfully pushing back a little bit against it but the Board of education is pushing new sex education guidelines to include the LGTBQ+ stuff to kids who haven’t even hit puberty yet. the guilt and pressure to submit to the LGBTq+ narrative is being heaped on us young men and is overwhelming at times especially during “pride” month. I don’t even watch or read National news anymore.

I will absolutely be praying for you , for him and will be praying for his repentance and restoration. May God bless you and comfort you during this difficult time.