am I being unreasonable to be hurt by this

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purpledaisies80

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I was brought up in a christian family who had a wonderful ministry in emotional healing and deliverance. They helped people who were abused in their childhoods. They did a wonderful job with the clients. But with me... You see I was being verbally and mentally abused by a close relative since I was toddler up until my middle 20s. Sometimes this involved violence or threats of violence. And I was molested (just touching not rape) as an older child and teen. Well I did eventually tell my parents and they were like “oh that's nothing compared to the people we help”. They told me to shut up about it. I developed a personality disorder and self harmed to cope with the abuse I had suffered but as a Christian family we had to keep it a secret. To this day I feel insecure around other hurting people because I feel that God probably cares about their pain a bit more and sees they need more help. Am I just being selfish that I feel my parents could have taken it more seriously and got me help? I do try forgive but pain is very great. I know, First World Problems and all that...
 
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SunnyDucks

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You have to understand that humans are extremely biased and imperfect creatures where as God is not. God sees your pain and wants to heal you. To Him, pain is pain and He never thinks "well this person has gone through more suffering so they need me more." He is there for you always no matter what. I am sorry your family has ignored your pain and will pray that you are able to find healing. There are those who are willing to listen to your problems and help you cope.

If you ever need someone to talk to feel free to pm me.
 
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purpledaisies80

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Thank you SunnyDucks. Have heard it dsaid that if parents belittle their kids then it can make a kids concept of God feel threatening and rejecting. Am scared of God as it is
 
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MYRedeemedinJC

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No, you had a problem with that close relative, I really can't believe your parents, just because yours is not as big means that it shouldn't be helped??, I don't know about anybody else but I call that hypocritisicm. Especially when you are their own.. Everybody has problems, and all of them should be dealt with the right way, God cares about everyone exactly the same, he favors no one, whatever pain you go through you can give the burdens to Him, He can't promise that the pain will go away, but He promises that He'll get you through, and you'll be stronger! :p!.. Remember, before you help other people you have to help yourself. Talk to God about everything, just let it out, He can take anything!. You are ABSOLUTELY not selfish!!
 
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SunnyDucks

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I can see how that can happen. We are to fear God in an awe inspiring sort of manner (His power, wrath, judgement, etc.), but we should never fear drawing near to God and seeking His healing and love.
 
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BarlyGurl

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Your thoughts are not unreasonable or irrational... but it looks like you might need to come to terms with the fact that Ministry is more important to your parents than you are or were... and that's a jagged pill to swallow. But ought to give you a better perspective to allow the Lord to heal you fully. Be strengthened in Him.
 
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Ugly

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You're not being at all unreasonable. You what through some horrific things as a kid and into your twenties. This has long term psychological effects. I think your parents were very cold and insensitive to what you went through and i feel that how you feel towards them is fully justified. I'm surprised you aren't worse off, so maybe God has done more to help than you realize.
 
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MissCris

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I was brought up in a christian family who had a wonderful ministry in emotional healing and deliverance. They helped people who were abused in their childhoods. They did a wonderful job with the clients. But with me... You see I was being verbally and mentally abused by a close relative since I was toddler up until my middle 20s. Sometimes this involved violence or threats of violence. And I was molested (just touching not rape) as an older child and teen. Well I did eventually tell my parents and they were like “oh that's nothing compared to the people we help”. They told me to shut up about it. I developed a personality disorder and self harmed to cope with the abuse I had suffered but as a Christian family we had to keep it a secret. To this day I feel insecure around other hurting people because I feel that God probably cares about their pain a bit more and sees they need more help. Am I just being selfish that I feel my parents could have taken it more seriously and got me help? I do try forgive but pain is very great. I know, First World Problems and all that...
It is neither unreasonable nor selfish for you to feel hurt by your parents' complete lack of appropriate response to what you shared with them. As parents, they had a responsibility to you, to care for you and protect you, and they didn't step up and do that. You have every right to feel hurt by this.

I do, however, think that it is important for you to push past the insecurities you feel (maybe seek help from a Christian counselor), and to trust that God absolutely does love and care about you every bit as much as he loves and cares about every other person. There are people who tend to excuse their lack of faith by saying that God doesn't care about them, so why should they care about Him? I hope you don't end up there, and I hope you move forward in your relationship with the Lord and allow him to comfort and heal you.
 
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Ariel82

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you know I'm going to ask a few questions because I don't know you or your situation so can't really comment on rather or not you are being unreasonable.

I was brought up in a christian family who had a wonderful ministry in emotional healing and deliverance. They helped people who were abused in their childhoods. They did a wonderful job with the clients. But with me... You see I was being verbally and mentally abused by a close relative since I was toddler up until my middle 20s. Sometimes this involved violence or threats of violence.
did you tell your parents about that relative? did they keep that person away from you? did you avoid that person or did you seek them out? (strange question but some people do seek out their tormentors for some reason or another)

And I was molested (just touching not rape) as an older child and teen.
sadly date rape happens a lot. its still wrong but its different and causes different wounds.

I wouldn't call it molesting unless the other person was older than 18. even without rape, molestation by an adult upon a child is still illegal and very morally wrong.

did you tell you parent who it was?

Well I did eventually tell my parents and they were like “oh that's nothing compared to the people we help”. They told me to shut up about it.
maybe they were in denial or you sound like you would really do anything to get your parents attention, so maybe they are blinded by their lack of attention to you?

it happens alot in families whose parents are in ministry, they are so busy taking care of everyone else they forget to take care of their own families and often themselves as well.

I developed a personality disorder and self harmed to cope with the abuse I had suffered but as a Christian family we had to keep it a secret. To this day I feel insecure around other hurting people because I feel that God probably cares about their pain a bit more and sees they need more help. Am I just being selfish that I feel my parents could have taken it more seriously and got me help? I do try forgive but pain is very great. I know, First World Problems and all that...
why would you have to keep it a secret?

that doesn't make sense.

God brings light to all darkness and secrets are not how He tells us to deal with such sins.

I think your parents should have gotten you a Christian mentor and counselor to talk to, but you were never alone.

God can always be reached 24-7, all you have to do is pray.
 
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Nancyer

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I'm so sorry. My prayers for your well being. Ariel82 seems to be a bit condemning and I'm sorry about that as well. I pray you find the strength in Christ to get beyond this. Parents can be truly blind to what's going on with their kids, even when their eyes are wide open to everyone else. Cops have kids who steal and kill. Pastors have teens who are having sex. They don't see any of it. Not that that makes it right, but it does happen right under their noses.

And lastly, remember that we are to forgive in order to be forgiven, so as hard as that will be, and I know it will be among the hardest things you'll ever do, you need to forgive them for your own well being. Forgiveness is for ourselves, and that will help you more than you can know.
 
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Tearose84

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I went thru a very abusive childhood and when I went into adulthood, I really had to look at the situation with new eyes. I just realized that my parents were really messed up, they did awful things, they made huge mistakes, and I can't change any of that. I went to Jesus and that is where I found my healing and how to forgive them. I didn't find any of that with my parents. Only thru Jesus. I couldn't change the past,. It is what it is and I decided not to let my emotion or life be controlled by it.
You can do that too. Seek God, and ask him to help you forgive and have peace in your life. As nancyer said, forgiveness is for you..it will do your heart so much healing and peace of mind.
 
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MYRedeemedinJC

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It is neither unreasonable nor selfish for you to feel hurt by your parents' complete lack of appropriate response to what you shared with them. As parents, they had a responsibility to you, to care for you and protect you, and they didn't step up and do that. You have every right to feel hurt by this.

I do, however, think that it is important for you to push past the insecurities you feel (maybe seek help from a Christian counselor), and to trust that God absolutely does love and care about you every bit as much as he loves and cares about every other person. There are people who tend to excuse their lack of faith by saying that God doesn't care about them, so why should they care about Him? I hope you don't end up there, and I hope you move forward in your relationship with the Lord and allow him to comfort and heal you.
I really like the way you put this, I would've put it the same way, but I had a time limit :p!!.. Congratulations! :p.
 
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intercessorginger

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I won't say who is right or wrong..just that people make lots of mistakes even when they don't mean to and sometimes hurt those closest to them. You can be sure that the Lord can see your pain and disappointment and he is waiting with open arms to hear you concerns, and heal your wounds. He is a God who truly sees.El Roi Who sees ALL!
 
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lan12

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Im so sorry you had to go through that honey . I dont believe your being selfish at all but I know nothing is impossible with God because he loves us unconditionally im going to keep you in my prayer . God bless u.
 
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Ariel82

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Well I'll apologize if I sound condemning.

However I tried my best to be truthful.

If you want to know if you are being unreasonable then I would give you two different answers depending upon how you answer the questions.

1. if the molesting happened by someone older than you and your parents did not keep the abusive relative away from you, then NO you are not being unreasonable. You parents were wrong. however you will still need to go to Jesus and learn how to forgive them.

2. if the molesting happened during a date with someone your own age, then it might have been a miscommunication and you shouldn't see that boy again. in this case you would have been unreasonable to expect your parents to handle a situation you as a teenage should have learned to handle yourself by avoiding situations with said boy.

3. if your did not tell your parents who the relative was or they tried their best to keep you from being exposed to said abusive relative if you did tell them, then you are being unreasonable.

i would tell myself the same things. I know i've been unreasonable quite a bit in my life, but I thank God for His forgiveness and the love and understanding of family and friends who put up with my foolishness.

I'd rather someone tell me truthfully what they think than platitudes.
 
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hattiebod

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I don't think this is anything to do with being 'unresonable' this is basically a child protection issue. This girl was a child. She was not protected.

1. if the molesting happened by someone older than you and your parents did not keep the abusive relative away from you, then NO you are not being unreasonable. You parents were wrong. however you will still need to go to Jesus and learn how to forgive them.
When someone has been abused, forgiveness is massive. Usually the person struggles to forgive themselves (even though they are not culcaple) let alone anyone else. It takes a lot of time and support to work through. Good advice given re counselling.

2. if the molesting happened during a date with someone your own age, then it might have been a miscommunication and you shouldn't see that boy again. in this case you would have been unreasonable to expect your parents to handle a situation you as a teenage should have learned to handle yourself by avoiding situations with said boy.
Its still an offence. Age is not relevant. Age will only really influence the way the person is charged, either in adult or juvenile court for example. we cannot expect young women of young men to 'handle' themselves in such situations, there is no manual and by suggesting this, it puts the onus of responsibility onto the 'victim'. for example, if a girl wears a short skirt she tempts the male. Better to say that it is the male that lacks the self control, the skirt is not relevant.

3. if your did not tell your parents who the relative was or they tried their best to keep you from being exposed to said abusive relative if you did tell them, then you are being unreasonable.
Its a fact that victims find it very hard to tell of their abuse for a myriad of reasons, which is why the abuse can go on for many years within families. Main reasons are due to control and the Added to which, when the girl or boy does try to reach out, they are often dismissed, or not understood, so they withdraw into silence. Holding a victim responsile for their silence is totally misguided and damaging.

i would tell myself the same things.
And you may be able to hear and receive them...and its wonderful they have helped but they are not necessarily applicable here or right.

I know i've been unreasonable quite a bit in my life, but I thank God for His forgiveness and the love and understanding of family and friends who put up with my foolishness.
We can all be 'unresonable' but child abuse, any sort of abuse, whether physical, mental, financial or verbal is totally unacceptable and I think the word 'unreasonable' minimises its destructive, isolating and painful implications.

I'd rather someone tell me truthfully what they think than platitudes.[/QUOTE]
We just have to be very careful what we are talking about is not what we really know about. Experiencing something does not make us experts. It does often make us want to reach out and support others in a similar situation, we just need to be 'wise as serpents and gentle as doves'. Personality Disorders need professional 'Christian' help so the person can gain the freedom in Christ that is there for the taking but...its a hard road for these people to travel and it can take them a long time to be free. Not due to the delay in Gods promises :) but in the chains that bind them being so difficult for them to unlock and be free from. <><
 
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purpledaisies80

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ariels questions

I don't think this is anything to do with being 'unresonable' this is basically a child protection issue. This girl was a child. She was not protected.

1. if the molesting happened by someone older than you and your parents did not keep the abusive relative away from you, then NO you are not being unreasonable. You parents were wrong. however you will still need to go to Jesus and learn how to forgive them.
When someone has been abused, forgiveness is massive. Usually the person struggles to forgive themselves (even though they are not culcaple) let alone anyone else. It takes a lot of time and support to work through. Good advice given re counselling.

2. if the molesting happened during a date with someone your own age, then it might have been a miscommunication and you shouldn't see that boy again. in this case you would have been unreasonable to expect your parents to handle a situation you as a teenage should have learned to handle yourself by avoiding situations with said boy.
Its still an offence. Age is not relevant. Age will only really influence the way the person is charged, either in adult or juvenile court for example. we cannot expect young women of young men to 'handle' themselves in such situations, there is no manual and by suggesting this, it puts the onus of responsibility onto the 'victim'. for example, if a girl wears a short skirt she tempts the male. Better to say that it is the male that lacks the self control, the skirt is not relevant.

3. if your did not tell your parents who the relative was or they tried their best to keep you from being exposed to said abusive relative if you did tell them, then you are being unreasonable.
Its a fact that victims find it very hard to tell of their abuse for a myriad of reasons, which is why the abuse can go on for many years within families. Main reasons are due to control and the Added to which, when the girl or boy does try to reach out, they are often dismissed, or not understood, so they withdraw into silence. Holding a victim responsile for their silence is totally misguided and damaging.

i would tell myself the same things.
And you may be able to hear and receive them...and its wonderful they have helped but they are not necessarily applicable here or right.

I know i've been unreasonable quite a bit in my life, but I thank God for His forgiveness and the love and understanding of family and friends who put up with my foolishness.
We can all be 'unresonable' but child abuse, any sort of abuse, whether physical, mental, financial or verbal is totally unacceptable and I think the word 'unreasonable' minimises its destructive, isolating and painful implications.

I'd rather someone tell me truthfully what they think than platitudes.[/QUOTE]
We just have to be very careful what we are talking about is not what we really know about. Experiencing something does not make us experts. It does often make us want to reach out and support others in a similar situation, we just need to be 'wise as serpents and gentle as doves'. Personality Disorders need professional 'Christian' help so the person can gain the freedom in Christ that is there for the taking but...its a hard road for these people to travel and it can take them a long time to be free. Not due to the delay in Gods promises :) but in the chains that bind them being so difficult for them to unlock and be free from. <><
OK. Am going to answer Ariels questions. #1 My dad was verbally abusive. He yelled. Called me ***** and filth and tHreatened to kill my mum and pets.we were all scared of him. #2 Borderline Personality Disorder is caused by trauma such as violence in home so SOMETHING must have happened to me. #3 I never felt loved or safe with men esp my dad and because of this #4 I fear intimacy too much to date. #5 one o of the molestations was an adult and I was too scared and ashamed to stop it being so shy #6 did tell my parents eventually. #7 kids need more attention than adults who are in counselling. Adults less vulnerable
 
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purpledaisies80

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Oh and #8 attention seeking has never been considered a sin
 
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Ariel82

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well if it was your dad, then that changes the whole picture because you have to realize your mom was probably being abused as well. ..you mentioned that he threatened to kill her.

I'm sorry it never entered my thoughts that it was your dad, I thought it was someone outside like an uncle or aunt or grandparent or cousin or something.

I would be worried about the people he counseled.

I hope you have found good Christian people to mentor and counsel you now.

I'll keep you and your mother in my prayers.

not all men are like your dad and your right attention seeking is not a sin

but personally I would not want any sort of attention from your dad and your mom might not have had the courage to help you.

i disowned my earthly father at a young age, mainly because he actually tried to kill my little brothers, and beat my mom so bad she was placed in the hospital because she got in his way when he tried.

However when i was little we went to church so my parents would learn English and I heard about God the Father and I've always looked to God in Heaven as my Heavenly Father and He has never failed me.
 
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Note the Scripture:
Galatians 6:10 [SUP]10 [/SUP]As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
1 Timothy 5:8
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.


Both of your parents were wrong, because the father didn't treat you right, and the mother didn't stand up for you. Whether or not you were rebellious during that time will determine how wrong they were.

This Scripture in Timothy doesn't only mean to supply food and shelter, but also spiritual teaching and support.