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JohnDB

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The stores have been emptied of decongestants and toilet paper again...

No over the counter meds are left...too many sick people.
*Sigh*.
 

JohnDB

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Mainstream media resorts to shaming, insulting unvaccinated Americans as COVID surges

https://www.foxnews.com/media/mainstream-media-insulting-unvaccinated-americans-covid
Shaming?
No need for that sort of thing.

Parents should get the kids vaxxed...
Especially early pubescent kids...they might not want diabetes and have a good chance at having children. Don't limit their future choices. Kids get vaxxed for all kinds of things from polio to chicken pox. Where the HPV vaccine is more of a lifestyle choice it's not exactly horrible either.

But...if a grown adult doesn't want to they shouldn't be forced into it. It is a form of Marxism to make people get vaccinated who don't want to. The vaccine is beneficial. (Despite the rabid antivaxxers claims) they aren't perfect protection by any stretch but they are better than anything else.

Natural immunity by getting sick is extremely risky behavior. As high as a 50% long Covid effect from being infected is being reported... multiple infections almost insuring the effect. (Each successively worse). But people are allowed to eat fast food, drink alcoholic Beverages, smoke tobacco products, and use marijuana recreationally. We are allowed to have the freedom to live unhealthy lifestyles without mandates and pay the consequences of doing such.
 

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The stores have been emptied of decongestants and toilet paper again...

No over the counter meds are left...too many sick people.
*Sigh*.
Too many sick people or too many people who are prepping because they believe they may/will get sick?
 

JohnDB

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Too many sick people or too many people who are prepping because they believe they may/will get sick?
A combination of supply chain interruptions and labor shortages and rushing out to purchase stuff.

We are going to have issues for a while yet.
 

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"A higher plane," hehe
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Because of her eyes and the loss of taste and smell. Both symptoms telling us that whatever it is that is infecting her has gotten into her brain and is causing infection there.

AND

There's a current global pandemic and surge of infections.

We have been careful...but it hasn't been enough apparently. We originally thought that it was allergies... because I was sniffing too. But I got better with the change in weather...she hasn't and only gotten worse. (She is immune compromised)
Just reaching out with some encouragement and info. Starting in late 2015 I became very ill with a foodborne bacterial infection and some coinfections. While my main issue was eventually cured after several years, I'm also immunocompromised with Lyme disease, which is incurable.

I have been seriously sick three times since the pandemic began, but I am still alive and kicking. I take daily megadoses of Vitamin C, a daily quinine (homemade) maintenance dose, and horse ivermectin on an as-needed basis. I'm doing quite well considering that for most of last year I had a job where I came in close contact with hundreds of people every day. Also unvaccinated and will remain so.

The ivermectin is easy to use but must be administered BY BODY WEIGHT or there could be problems. It is exceedingly safe and is used in many third world countries as an easy-to-administer anti-parasitic. In humans. The horse stuff is identical to what humans get in tablets, it's just in a gel form and comes in a syringe to be administered by weight.

The quinine is easy to make (all natural ingredients) from lemon and grapefruit peels. Recipe can be easily found online as well as dosage.

All the best to you and your wife. Remember that God has not given us a spirit of fear.
 

JStates

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"A higher plane," hehe
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Shaming?
No need for that sort of thing.

Parents should get the kids vaxxed...
Especially early pubescent kids...they might not want diabetes and have a good chance at having children. Don't limit their future choices. Kids get vaxxed for all kinds of things from polio to chicken pox. Where the HPV vaccine is more of a lifestyle choice it's not exactly horrible either.

But...if a grown adult doesn't want to they shouldn't be forced into it. It is a form of Marxism to make people get vaccinated who don't want to. The vaccine is beneficial. (Despite the rabid antivaxxers claims) they aren't perfect protection by any stretch but they are better than anything else.

Natural immunity by getting sick is extremely risky behavior. As high as a 50% long Covid effect from being infected is being reported... multiple infections almost insuring the effect. (Each successively worse). But people are allowed to eat fast food, drink alcoholic Beverages, smoke tobacco products, and use marijuana recreationally. We are allowed to have the freedom to live unhealthy lifestyles without mandates and pay the consequences of doing such.
Kids have a 1 in MILLIONS chance of dying from COVID. The vaccine is killing more children than COVID. No contest.
 

Nehemiah6

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The vaccine is killing more children than COVID.
Correct. But "vaccine" must be in quotes since these are not vaccines. And since they are lethal and toxic injections, they are designed to kill. Evidently, some batches are specifically made more lethal than others. This is "intentional, premeditated murder".
Small percent of vaccine batches responsible for large number of adverse reactions, analysts claim
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/c...-vax-deaths-caused-by-less-than-5-of-batches/
 

JohnDB

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Kids have a 1 in MILLIONS chance of dying from COVID. The vaccine is killing more children than COVID. No contest.
But the effects of the virus is a doubled chance of getting diabetes in children.

Sure they survive the virus but then get diabetes because they survived Covid...
 

JStates

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But the effects of the virus is a doubled chance of getting diabetes in children.

Sure they survive the virus but then get diabetes because they survived Covid...
Buddy, high fructose corn syrup and highly processed foods cause diabetes.

But seriously, I have no doubt they are pushing whatever lies they can to get people vaxxed. So get this: a few weeks ago Pfizer invests ~$8+ billion worth into marijuana. Then a few days ago, Forbes drops an article: "Smoking pot can keep you from getting COVID!" Then a couple days after that: "Oh nevermind, pot CAN'T keep you from getting COVID!" -on Forbes again. Last I checked, BOTH articles were still up over there.

They are playing games. I don't believe one filthy lie they are peddling.

Pfizer has said the pandemic will last until 2024. If people don't wake up, it will last that long and beyond.
 

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https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download

This is the governments info on the current PCR covid 19 test. Click on that link. Once that is on your screen scroll down to page 41. I copied it here so I can highlight a couple things:


Performance Characteristics Analytical Performance: Limit of Detection (LoD): LoD studies determine the lowest detectable concentration of 2019-nCoV at which approximately 95% of all (true positive) replicates test positive. The LoD was determined by limiting dilution studies using characterized samples. The analytical sensitivity of the rRT-PCR assays contained in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel were determined in Limit of Detection studies. Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/μL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen. Samples were extracted using the QIAGEN EZ1 Advanced XL instrument and EZ1 DSP Virus Kit (Cat# 62724) and manually with the QIAGEN DSP Viral RNA Mini Kit (Cat# 61904). Real-Time RT-PCR assays were performed using the Thermo Fisher Scientific TaqPath™ 1-Step RT-qPCR Master Mix, CG (Cat# A15299) on the Applied Biosystems™ 7500 Fast Dx Real-Time PCR Instrument according to the CDC 2019-nCoV Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel instructions for use.


"Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed"

This document was created in 2020 and was updated as recently as "Effective: 07/21/2021 " "CDC-006-00019, Revision: 07" So 7 revisions, all still admitting the test was based on no actual sample of the newest coronavirus which causes covid 19. So, what does the test actually detect? Pretty much any type of virus which are common in almost all people. I've seen videos where the test says bottled water, mud puddle water, Coke and so many other things testing positive for the virus in things that really cannot have it. Kind of strange that the FDA even up to last summer did still not have any samples of this virus to base a test on to detect that same virus.

"and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/μL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen."

Mimic clinical specimen. The test is fake in other words.

https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/fact-sheets/Understanding-COVID-19-PCR-Testing

"A positive COVID-19 PCR test means that SARS-CoV-2 is present."

Really? How? The FDA clearly admits the test was not based on any sample of that virus.


https://www.msiclinics.com/what-is-a-pcr-test/

"A PCR (polymerase chain reaction) test detects the presence of the COVID-19 virus in your body. "

No, it cannot detect that. This website clearly doesn't even understand what is the virus and what is the disease the virus causes. The virus has many names: SARS-CoV-2, Novel Coronavirus, 2019-nCoV, and sometimes the Wuhan virus since it was claimed to be first detected in Wuhan, China. Covid19 means COronaVIrusDisease and the 19 is short for 2019, when it was first detected. "COVID-19 virus" is confusing different things and creating a term that actually doesn't exist. In short, the virus is what causes the covid19 disease, allegedly.

Facts are a wonderful thing!
 

ewq1938

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self test danger:

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/greg...ounter-covid-test-kits-1_oGWBU5cuQJ1YyeZ.html


https://www.fda.gov/media/147254/download

Scroll down to page 4


18.The Reagent Solution contains a harmful chemical (see table below). If the solution contacts the skin or eye, flush with copious amounts of water. If irritation persists, seek medical advice: https://www.poison.org/co ntact-us or 1-800-222-1222. Chemical Name/Sodium Azide /26628-22-8 /Acute Tox. 2 (Oral), H300 Acute Tox. 1 (Dermal), H310


Sodium Azide is an acute toxin as in very very poisonous.


https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/sodiumazide/basics/facts.asp


"Sodium azide prevents the cells of the body from using oxygen. When this happens, the cells die."

"Sodium azide is more harmful to the heart and the brain than to other organs, because the heart and the brain use a lot of oxygen. "


"Exposure to a large amount of sodium azide by any route may cause these other health effects as well: Convulsions, Low blood pressure, Loss of consciousness, Lung injury, Respiratory failure leading to death, Slow heart rate"


"Survivors of serious sodium azide poisoning may have heart and brain damage."

"No specific antidote exists for sodium azide poisoning."


And you are instructed by this test to put this poison on a swab and insert it into your nose?? The side affects of being poisoned is very close to the symptoms one would have from getting "Covid19"!




https://tapnewswire.com/2021/12/sod...-in-the-covid-medical-intervention-apparatus/

"Here is the key quote: “The Reagent Solution [included in the test kit] contains a harmful chemical (see table below). If the solution contacts the skin or eye, flush with copious amounts of water. If irritation persists, seek medical advice…”
Then the FDA document lists that harmful chemical: sodium azide.
Just how harmful is it?
For an answer, let’s look at a CDC document titled, “Facts About Sodium Azide.” We find this statement:
“Sodium azide is a rapidly acting, potentially deadly chemical that exists as an odorless white solid.”
Then there is this: “Sodium azide prevents the cells of the body from using oxygen. When this happens, the cells die. Sodium azide is more harmful to the heart and the brain than to other organs, because the heart and the brain use a lot of oxygen.”
Yes, as with all poisons, the degree of damage depends on the dosage, but you decide whether “potentially deadly,” as the CDC describes sodium azide, signifies a significant risk.
If you read the FDA document I referenced above, you’ll see that the reagent containing sodium azide is involved in the self-administered COVID test, and the whole test procedure is complex enough to allow fumbles and mistakes—such as a spill of the “deadly chemical.”
Don’t believe me? Try this FDA quote on for size: “To perform the test, an anterior nasal swab specimen is collected by the patient, then 6 drops of extraction reagent from a dropper bottle are added to the top hole of the swab well. The patient sample is inserted into the test card through the bottom hole of the swab well, and firmly pushed upwards until the swab tip is visible through the top hole. The swab is rotated 3 times clockwise and the card is closed, bringing the extracted sample into contact with the test strip. Test results are interpreted visually at 15 minutes based on the presence or absence of visually detectable pink/purple colored lines.”
See what I mean? Good luck.
Now let’s move on to the second problem with this at-home self-performed COVID test: it’s grossly misleading. The results are ambiguous.
The FDA document I’ve been quoting contains this gem: “The BinaxNOW COVID-19 Antigen Self Test does not differentiate between SARS-CoV and SARS…CoV-2.
BOOM. In other words, a positive test, indicating infection, could mean nothing more than infection with the 2003 “SARS virus”—and that “epidemic” was a dud. But wait, there’s more:
Positive results do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease.”
Double trouble. The person who tests positive could simply be housing bacteria in his body, AND whatever germ the test is detecting may not even be causing disease."
Other than that, the at-home test is perfect."


In other words, this test is unreliable to tell anyone if they have the new coronavirus and it is potentially deadly to even use the test.
 
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Sodium Azide is an acute toxin as in very very poisonous.
That's why it is being used in the COVID test kits. If they can't kill you with the vaccine, they have another weapon ready to do the job. And Russia is ready to supply them with polonium, once they let him grab Ukraine.
 
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Buddy, high fructose corn syrup and highly processed foods cause diabetes.

But seriously, I have no doubt they are pushing whatever lies they can to get people vaxxed. So get this: a few weeks ago Pfizer invests ~$8+ billion worth into marijuana. Then a few days ago, Forbes drops an article: "Smoking pot can keep you from getting COVID!" Then a couple days after that: "Oh nevermind, pot CAN'T keep you from getting COVID!" -on Forbes again. Last I checked, BOTH articles were still up over there.

They are playing games. I don't believe one filthy lie they are peddling.

Pfizer has said the pandemic will last until 2024. If people don't wake up, it will last that long and beyond.
Buddy, high fructose corn syrup and highly processed foods cause diabetes.

But seriously, I have no doubt they are pushing whatever lies they can to get people vaxxed. So get this: a few weeks ago Pfizer invests ~$8+ billion worth into marijuana. Then a few days ago, Forbes drops an article: "Smoking pot can keep you from getting COVID!" Then a couple days after that: "Oh nevermind, pot CAN'T keep you from getting COVID!" -on Forbes again. Last I checked, BOTH articles were still up over there.

They are playing games. I don't believe one filthy lie they are peddling.

Pfizer has said the pandemic will last until 2024. If people don't wake up, it will last that long and beyond.
My prediction is that the unvaccinated who are so because they do not trust vaccines are going to keep the hospital ICU units busy for the next two years for sure.

There might be a decline but there will be complaints from hospitals telling us that they are treating ICU patients for COVID complications who would not be there if they had been vaccinated.

By about 2024 that number will probably dwindle significantly because many unvaccinated will have gotten infected and gotten over it. I wont call it herd immunity because there will still be lots of unvaccinated who get sick for decades to come.

I don't expect a huge surge in new vaccine patients. I think by now those that have taken a stand against vaccines are not going to give up their reasons and will probably take those reasons to the grave with them. Later generations will still be repeating antivaccine information long since debunked simply because they want to believe it anyway. That's just how people are. I have learned this over the past two years.

The vaccinated will be ok, not getting seriously ill, and might need a booster from time to time depending on variants. like the Flu. But those variants wont be serious for the vaccinated because they won't be sufficiently mutated to bypass ALL immunities from previous vaccines and boosters. So this will make new variants have a hard task to put down a vaccinated patient.

Then I predict that one day a completely new virus other than COVID will come out of the wilderness somewhere that will be a global killer that will be as contagious as COVID and kill people in days. This will turn some countries into post apocalyptic wastelands.

I don't know when that will happen but I think history suggests that it will happen eventually. We are not ready for anything like that.