Christians response to gay marriage?

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kaylagrl

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Dude653 said:
Same reason when you go to the courthouse to get married, the officiator will ask you whether or not you want to include God in your wedding vows because not everyone in America is Christian
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There are nations around the world that hang gay people and they are far from Christian. Homosexuality is un-natural. Just because Marxists in this country are trying to destroy the nuclear family doesn't make it right.
 
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Dude653 said:
Yeah the point is Christianity doesn't own marriage, as marriage predates Christianity
That makes about as much sense as saying Muslim marriages don't count because they're holy book gives different instructions on marriage
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Nothing pre-dates Christianity. It starts at "in the beginning" and ends in eternity.
 
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Scarecrow said:
you are saying that some people are not married because of your opinions, that is pretty much the definition of discrimination.
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No he's saying in the eyes of God they are not married. And it has nothing to do with opinion, that's the Word. Again, if you don't believe it, why are you here?!
 
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You can't legislate everything the Bible calls a sin because of the Constitution that already mentioned a million times on this thread
The Bible says lying is a sin.
2 + 2 = 10 million
Okay I just told a lie. Are you going to put me in jail? No you can't because of the first amendment
 
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Scarecrow said:
That would exclude a good many laws including the first amendment.
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No, it doesn't. This country was founded on Christianity. Israel is the only nation that God called out as chosen. Our laws are Judeo/ Christian and based on the Bible. While there is no "national religion" Christianity was the religion of most of the founders. Yet they intended freedom of religion, which we have.
 
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Scarecrow said:
Which is why men are expected to marry and forcibly impregnate their late brother's widow(s)...right?
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OT to the Jews, are you an OT Jew? No, you aren't so stop being cynical like you don't know the difference. It was a different society and there was a reason for it.
 
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what qualifies as "correct" equipment?
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You don't know how to have sex?? If you have to go out and buy a tool instead of using what you were born with, that is un-natural. And its stunned. You go and set up a fake couple, two men or two women, one still "plays" the man and one the woman. Literally makes no sense.
 
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Knowing that God did not create a person to be attracted to the same sex and man has created the lie one is born this way means they are persecuting themselves.
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All, and i do mean all, of the evidence says that a person's orientation is inborn.
 
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Dude653 said:
You can't legislate everything the Bible calls a sin because of the Constitution that already mentioned a million times on this thread
The Bible says lying is a sin.
2 + 2 = 10 million
Okay I just told a lie. Are you going to put me in jail? No you can't because of the first amendment
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The gay community's mantra is "love is love" right? So what about MAPS? Are they wrong? Who says they are or aren't? You're attracted to who you are attracted to. What if you are attracted to your neighbors dog or horse? If love is love, if you can be attracted to whatever you want to be, then MAPS are not wrong for what they feel. Just change the name and make it more tolerable.
 
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Scarecrow said:
All, and i do mean all, of the evidence says that a person's orientation is inborn.
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Baloney! We live in a society that says science is true if it fits my agenda. Can't define what a man is, unless it comes to abortion. Then we definitely know what a man is and he has no say in the conversation. Science today is subjective and therefore useless.
 
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kaylagrl

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Dude653 said:
Time to take away the rights of other Americans is persecution. Meanwhile Christians in America pretend to be persecuted
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Where did I say persecute anyone? When MAPS want to marry, what will be the reason that they can't? Will we let them all out of jail? After all it's not their fault. If you want to marry your dog, or a fence, a snail. Who says it's wrong if love is love? Why can't I marry 26 husbands (said no woman ever) but you get my point. We have men in women's sports and demanding more. Where does it stop?!
 
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kaylagrl said:
If you don't believe the Bible, why are you here? The OT was speaking mainly to the Jews who were a chosen people. They were called out to be separate from the religions around them. That's why tattoos were wrong, they were called out to be different. The blend in shirts was because it was something the heathens around them wore. It was believed to have magical powers. Homosexuality is an abomination because it is a sin against ones own body. It's a misuse of what God intended sex to be. Has zero to do with prejudice.
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The bible calls over 90 separate things abominations, and pretty much all of them are happily engaged in my modern Christians and none of them are used to attack a minority or justify discrimination and prejudice except this one.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Where did I say persecute anyone? When MAPS want to marry, what will be the reason that they can't? Will we let them all out of jail? After all it's not their fault. If you want to marry your dog, or a fence, a snail. Who says it's wrong if love is love? Why can't I marry 26 husbands (said no woman ever) but you get my point. We have men in women's sports and demanding more. Where does it stop?!
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A dog can't give consent so that's a false equivalency
Personally I can't think of any reason not to allow polygamy as long as everyone involved consents.
The tribe in Papua New Guinea where the women have multiple husbands
I think it comes across as arrogant to poop on other people's cultures because they don't line up with your religious beliefs
Also it comes across as super arrogant to try to tell other people that you don't have the right to not follow my religious principles
Also if you want to pass laws on the bible, that's going to require a great deal of cherry picking. Do we start stoning people from blasphemy again?
 
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kaylagrl said:
No he's saying in the eyes of God they are not married. And it has nothing to do with opinion, that's the Word. Again, if you don't believe it, why are you here?!
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"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." Susan B. Anthony
 
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My state, Tennessee is trying to get rid of age restrictions on marriage. If this were to pass, a pedophile could marry a child if he could get the parents permission. But they pretend to be about family values
Mississippi tried to make rape victims give the rapist visitation to the child that supreme court shot it down
Again, they pretend to be about family values
 
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Scarecrow said:
The bible calls over 90 separate things abominations, and pretty much all of them are happily engaged in my modern Christians and none of them are used to attack a minority or justify discrimination and prejudice except this one.
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So you just blew through every thing I said to say the same nonsense you said before. How about answering why you are here when you don't believe the Bible? The OT was talking to the Jews, a CALLED out CHOSEN people. They were to be SEPARATE and DIFFERENT than the nations around them. But God created marriage to be between a man and a woman. Now you can go shag your neighbors cow, but it's not a relationship in God's eyes. Neither is homosexuality. Can they get married, yes they can. But the Bible calls it sin. If you are a Christian, which you either lied because you claim to be, then you would want to see homosexual friends and family in heaven. My question again, why are you here pretending to be something you aren't?
 
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kaylagrl said:
No, it doesn't. This country was founded on Christianity. Israel is the only nation that God called out as chosen. Our laws are Judeo/ Christian and based on the Bible. While there is no "national religion" Christianity was the religion of most of the founders. Yet they intended freedom of religion, which we have.
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American law was copied pretty much word for word from British law. British law was copied almost word for word from Roman law which in turn was copied from Greek law. American law is based on the laws codified by Pagans.
 
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kaylagrl said:
You don't know how to have sex?? If you have to go out and buy a tool instead of using what you were born with, that is un-natural. And its stunned. You go and set up a fake couple, two men or two women, one still "plays" the man and one the woman. Literally makes no sense.
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maybe it makes no sense because what you have posted has nothing to do with reality.
 
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