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Just curious on your thought on this. With the statement you made above....Say a man is a married Pastor, then later he gets divorced. Do you think he should step down from being a Pastor ?
Another question.....We had two different Pastors come to our church on two separate occasions over a space of a few months. Both of the Pastors said they quit their jobs to be able to serve God full time and their wives are totally supporting the house financially. What is your take on that ? I already have my take on this one, just want to hear yours.
Another question.....We had two different Pastors come to our church on two separate occasions over a space of a few months. Both of the Pastors said they quit their jobs to be able to serve God full time and their wives are totally supporting the house financially. What is your take on that ? I already have my take on this one, just want to hear yours.
But you still made a covenant before God, remember Joshua when he made a covenant with the Gibeonites even though they discovered they where deceived by them, he still had to uphold the covenant lest the wrath of God fell upon them. Joshua 9.
I heard a testimony of this guy who God showed him that scripture when he was thinking of divorcing his wife who deceived him into marriage by saying she was pregnant when she wasn't - amazing wisdom on Gods behalf.
A bad mistake in not enquiring of God does not justify you breaking a covenant. full stop.
I heard a testimony of this guy who God showed him that scripture when he was thinking of divorcing his wife who deceived him into marriage by saying she was pregnant when she wasn't - amazing wisdom on Gods behalf.
A bad mistake in not enquiring of God does not justify you breaking a covenant. full stop.
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In the first place, what I see here is that, we shouldn't at times misinterpret and make the word of God (seem to) mean what it actually doesn't mean in certain contexts!
Still I agree that one wouldn't really stay in a kind of marriage where she's really inflicted with painnnnnn..... (You'd even ask if there's no other better purpose to live your life???). But since the bible gives no conclusion between ''remarriage'' after a believer and non-believer's relationship, I can't say that ''get remarried!''
Be watchful and take caution!
Here I continue to agree with dabodab to a certain extent too; ''Please, don't determine that someone isn't a Christian because they are behaving badly.''
Still I agree that one wouldn't really stay in a kind of marriage where she's really inflicted with painnnnnn..... (You'd even ask if there's no other better purpose to live your life???). But since the bible gives no conclusion between ''remarriage'' after a believer and non-believer's relationship, I can't say that ''get remarried!''
Be watchful and take caution!
Here I continue to agree with dabodab to a certain extent too; ''Please, don't determine that someone isn't a Christian because they are behaving badly.''
That's a good verse to show someone for that scenario. Some people think if they made a stupid decision when they decided to marry, that it must have been wrong for them to marry. It seems like our culture puts little value on keeping vows and promises, sadly. We've lost our honor culture in the US over the decades.
Also, if a woman deceives a man into marrying her by feigning pregnancy, I'd say there is a pretty good chance that the man had slept with the woman or that the man doesn't know much about biology.
Honestly, the OP sounds like a justification someone could try to use for divorce when they are looking for one.
Divorces can be nasty. And some people get divorced or consider it after going through a period of arguing with their spouse. I wonder how many couples are in a situation where both the husband and wife think the other is a child of he devil, or close to it. I know one guy who referred to his ex-wife as the devil or Satan. I don't know what she thought of him.
It seems like people like to justify divorce and can really stretch the Bible to do it. Paul, in a section he says is himself and not the Lord saying it, says that if the unbeliever departs, let him depart. So some Christians will take that verse, the part that it doesn't say is from the Lord, and stretch it a bit and say, "Well, she departed from me in her heart a long time ago." So instead of her actually departing like the text says, he argues to himself that she 'departed' in her heart. And if she claims to be a believer, he can reason to himself, "If she were a real Christian, she wouldn't talk to me that way, so she must be a plant from the devil."
I've heard or read this idea before, that a marriage that has problems X, Y, Z that cause suffering 'can't glorify God.' When I hear people stay that, I find it disturbing. Why would they think God can't be glorified if they are suffering or just having a rough time in their marriage. Jesus told Peter by what death He would glorify God. That's how the Gospel of John put it, 'glorify God.' What happened to Peter? Tradition says he was crucified upside down. If that can glorify God, can't you glorify God in the midst of suffering in marriage? If you are suffering because your spouse is hard to put up with, can't you still overcome and glorify God by standing firm and loving the person? You can glorify God by suffering well, righteously for Christ sake. Joseph's brothers through him in the pit, sold him as a slave, and tricked his daddy into thinking he was dead. Yet Joseph said what they meant for evil, God meant for good.
Divorces can be nasty. And some people get divorced or consider it after going through a period of arguing with their spouse. I wonder how many couples are in a situation where both the husband and wife think the other is a child of he devil, or close to it. I know one guy who referred to his ex-wife as the devil or Satan. I don't know what she thought of him.
It seems like people like to justify divorce and can really stretch the Bible to do it. Paul, in a section he says is himself and not the Lord saying it, says that if the unbeliever departs, let him depart. So some Christians will take that verse, the part that it doesn't say is from the Lord, and stretch it a bit and say, "Well, she departed from me in her heart a long time ago." So instead of her actually departing like the text says, he argues to himself that she 'departed' in her heart. And if she claims to be a believer, he can reason to himself, "If she were a real Christian, she wouldn't talk to me that way, so she must be a plant from the devil."
I've heard or read this idea before, that a marriage that has problems X, Y, Z that cause suffering 'can't glorify God.' When I hear people stay that, I find it disturbing. Why would they think God can't be glorified if they are suffering or just having a rough time in their marriage. Jesus told Peter by what death He would glorify God. That's how the Gospel of John put it, 'glorify God.' What happened to Peter? Tradition says he was crucified upside down. If that can glorify God, can't you glorify God in the midst of suffering in marriage? If you are suffering because your spouse is hard to put up with, can't you still overcome and glorify God by standing firm and loving the person? You can glorify God by suffering well, righteously for Christ sake. Joseph's brothers through him in the pit, sold him as a slave, and tricked his daddy into thinking he was dead. Yet Joseph said what they meant for evil, God meant for good.
Yes well they both did stuff up and he admitted that he took advantage of her. Over their 9 month separation he sought much counsel on what to do and God ultimately led him to that scripture so he decided to move back with her.
Its encouraging and wonderful to see that God still is with us (obviously lol) when we repent and turn back to Him and He is willing to help, because sometimes our own guilt can condemn us so much or even other brothers.
That's right then she had to lie again and tell him the baby miscarried because obviously there was no baby there. About a year later after marriage she told him the truth.
Its encouraging and wonderful to see that God still is with us (obviously lol) when we repent and turn back to Him and He is willing to help, because sometimes our own guilt can condemn us so much or even other brothers.
That's right then she had to lie again and tell him the baby miscarried because obviously there was no baby there. About a year later after marriage she told him the truth.