Here comes the persecution......

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pastac

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I as a Marine (in the 80's) will say...he is not my commander in chief and he seems to be anti-American!
I as a Marine in the 70's 80's 90's disagree with you assessment and for the record he is your commander in chief even if you don't want him to be
 
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I don't like Obama, but I will be truly upset and angry if anything happened to my president. In the end, I might not like him, or even wish him impeached, but until that day, he is still my president.
 

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I don't like Obama, but I will be truly upset and angry if anything happened to my president. In the end, I might not like him, or even wish him impeached, but until that day, he is still my president.

Why do you so often interject ideas and innuendo that no one said? Who said that they wanted anything to "happen" to obama? What are you insinuating by that?
 
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I as a Marine in the 70's 80's 90's disagree with you assessment and for the record he is your commander in chief even if you don't want him to be
What if he isn't upholding the constitution and faithfully executing the responsibilities of his office?
 
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I mean he did just set 36000 "immigrants" free from prisons and some of them were very violent offenders, and now... he is blocking the deportation of illegal immigrants. It would appear that he isn't very concerned about the welfare of our people at all but in an agenda that is very anti American.
 
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Why do you so often interject ideas and innuendo that no one said? Who said that they wanted anything to "happen" to obama? What are you insinuating by that?
You realize that wasn't directed at you at all, PennEd.
 
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I understand that Thom, but it doesn't negate my point.
I hear people say things about the president all the time. It's usually tied to, well he's not my president. So, I made my comment. I wasn't implying any felt that way. I was only explaining the extent to which I understood citizenship.
 
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Our city via the ACLU is trying to pass NDO....which is a non discrimination ordinance. It will be illegal to descriminate based on someone's sexual preference. Bathrooms will become unisex or establishments will have to install a third bathroom. We are truly going to you know where in a hand basket. It has been tabled in our city council as it failed by a 5 to 4 vote. It's really sickening that I have to worry about appeasing less than 1% of the population. I frankly don't care if someone wants to be a deviant....I just want to raise my children with the principles set forth in the bible.
 

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The church is so soft against any issue that has a hint of controversy. Well newsflash Jesus was confrontational against all sin.Why are we so afraid to take clear stands on what is wrong acording to our bible standards.It shows a lot of work still needs to be done to insure the body can walk in boldness and quit acting like children with Godly dealings and his word. Mature Christians need to take a stand and become proactive against this foolishness of any agenda that is against scriptural teachings.
If you can show us where Jesus spoke out against homosexuality then I'd see you have a point. The only thing I really see Jesus being confrontational about is religious oppression.
 

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And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

And what is the execution method of choice for these raging hateful muslims? BEHEADING!! And who is murdering, raping, and causing terror in every corner of the globe? MUSLIMS!! The case for the antichrist being the 12th imam is becoming clearer and clearer.

Sebastian Gorka: Christian Holocaust Underway in Iraq, USA and World Look On

 
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CeileDe

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The church is so soft against any issue that has a hint of controversy. Well newsflash Jesus was confrontational against all sin.Why are we so afraid to take clear stands on what is wrong acording to our bible standards.It shows a lot of work still needs to be done to insure the body can walk in boldness and quit acting like children with Godly dealings and his word. Mature Christians need to take a stand and become proactive against this foolishness of any agenda that is against scriptural teachings.
It is because they feel Christ was a pacifist.
 
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If you can show us where Jesus spoke out against homosexuality then I'd see you have a point. The only thing I really see Jesus being confrontational about is religious oppression.
Well then you probably should dig a little deeper.
 
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pastac

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What if he isn't upholding the constitution and faithfully executing the responsibilities of his office?
What if you are nmot in a position to tell me he is or isn't? What if your life is not free from sin? What if you were President? What if What if???
 
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If you can show us where Jesus spoke out against homosexuality then I'd see you have a point. The only thing I really see Jesus being confrontational about is religious oppression.

This is a foundationally important issue. For if there is no God or accountability to God, our Creator, as the secular worldview would have us to believe, then homosexual marriage is a completely legitimate issue. Pedophilia and bestiality would not be out of the question either, should the prevailing secular worldview “deem” the lifestyles to be acceptable and the “new norm.” The biblical worldview, however, is grounded in the unchanging tenets of the Word of God. This is where the loudest cultural clash occurs … when two worlds collide.
So, did Jesus condemn, speak of, or even mention homosexuality? The one who espouses this false teaching usually begins by saying that he discounts both the Old Testament and the writings of Paul and adheres only to the four Gospels. In so doing, they think they have found a convenient way to justify the homosexual lifestyle. First, the gyrations one must use to reach this illogical conclusion are astounding and ought to be the first dead giveaway of the falsehood of the proposition. But, secondly, let’s simply examine the question on its face – did Jesus ever say anything in the four Gospels that would condemn the homosexual lifestyle or homosexual marriage?
As it turns out, yes, He did. As a matter of fact, He spoke very clearly and directly about the issue. Let me begin with Matthew 19:4. Here Jesus is answering a question from the Pharisees regarding divorce. However, his answer is very telling concerning the entire issue of sexuality, the purpose of sexuality, marriage and the proper form of marriage. Here are the words of Jesus:
“And He answered and said to them, ‘Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning “made them male and female,” and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”?’” (Matthew 19:4)
Here Jesus upholds creation, male and female sexual relationships (in marriage), male and female marriage, procreation as a part of male and female marriage, and the sanctity of male and female marriage and sexual relationships. His answer is a blanket ignoring (thus condemnation as perversion) of anything outside God’s standard for sexuality and marriage. This truth cannot be legitimately explained away.
But, Jesus gets even more direct concerning the issue of homosexuality. In John 5:46-47, Jesus tells his detractors that unless one holds to the writings of Moses (the first five books of the Bible), one cannot fully know or understand truth or Jesus Himself. “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” (John 5:46-47) Of course, in the first five books of the Bible we read of the days of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis) and the blanket condemnation of homosexuality as perversion (Leviticus). Oh well, so much for throwing out the Old Testament to legitimize homosexuality. But wait – Jesus gets even more direct with the matter.
Jesus also spoke of the destruction of the Sodomite (openly celebrating homosexuality) cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. (Luke 17:28-32; Matthew 10:15; 11:24; Mark 6:11.) The presenting sin that brought about the destruction of those cultures was homosexuality. Consider these words found in the book of Jude:
“Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.” (Jude 1:7-8)
Three of the four gospels contain quotes from Jesus about the sinful condition of Sodom and Gomorrah and the destruction that the celebration of the presenting sin of homosexuality wrought upon them. One of those quotes equates the sins of Sodom (homosexuality) to the same type of pervasive perversion of Noah’s day (Luke 17:26-30). So, as it turns out … YES, Jesus did speak rather forthrightly, and often, about the sin of homosexuality and the judgment that it brings upon societies that celebrate it.

Read more at Did Jesus condemn homosexuality?
 
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What if you are nmot in a position to tell me he is or isn't? What if your life is not free from sin? What if you were President? What if What if???
Well I guess you and Obama have the straw man thing down pat...
 
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pastac

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Well I guess you and Obama have the straw man thing down pat...
infantile answer or retort and for the record its President Obama. Sirk just opinions no need to get personal but I can!!!
 
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Or was it a red herring...I'm not sure now.