How Are You Men Going to Raise Your Future Children?
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Hey @HealthAndHappiness
And what do you find offensive in the video regarding the establishment of the American school system? I mean, you do realize that every industrialized nation has government provided schooling, right? Sure, you have some like in middle eastern nations where they won't let girls go to school and a few African nations that are too poor to offer government funded schooling. But for the most part, people in general all across the globe have always supported an education system that teaches what we feel that our young people need to know to live as a productive part of any society.
If you're somehow trying to support an education system where we just trust that parents are going to teach their children what they need to know to function in the world, that's probably not a workable solution. It certainly doesn't seem to have gained much popularity with the majority of the nations on the planet. Or are you down with just lets not educate our children at all. They live and learn the things that are done around the house, although with mom and dad generally working, I don't know who they are going to be learning from, but basically they just learn whatever they can glean living in a family from birth until teenager, but nothing in the way of 'going to school'.
I believe that our society is far too technologically advanced in many, many jobs that enable people to provide a living for their family, without an education system that teaches the hard stuff for which specialists in various fields would teach a child. I know that I would have a really, really tuff time teaching my granddaughter her basic algebra 101. Do you think that we just don't need to teach children that or that most parents would handle it?
Oh, and BTW, just because a nazi came up with an education model does not, ipso facto, make it bad. And I'm pretty sure that any of the bad stuff we've discarded here in the states.
So again, what is it specifically that you believe cannot be rehabilitated in our education system?
And what do you find offensive in the video regarding the establishment of the American school system? I mean, you do realize that every industrialized nation has government provided schooling, right? Sure, you have some like in middle eastern nations where they won't let girls go to school and a few African nations that are too poor to offer government funded schooling. But for the most part, people in general all across the globe have always supported an education system that teaches what we feel that our young people need to know to live as a productive part of any society.
If you're somehow trying to support an education system where we just trust that parents are going to teach their children what they need to know to function in the world, that's probably not a workable solution. It certainly doesn't seem to have gained much popularity with the majority of the nations on the planet. Or are you down with just lets not educate our children at all. They live and learn the things that are done around the house, although with mom and dad generally working, I don't know who they are going to be learning from, but basically they just learn whatever they can glean living in a family from birth until teenager, but nothing in the way of 'going to school'.
I believe that our society is far too technologically advanced in many, many jobs that enable people to provide a living for their family, without an education system that teaches the hard stuff for which specialists in various fields would teach a child. I know that I would have a really, really tuff time teaching my granddaughter her basic algebra 101. Do you think that we just don't need to teach children that or that most parents would handle it?
Oh, and BTW, just because a nazi came up with an education model does not, ipso facto, make it bad. And I'm pretty sure that any of the bad stuff we've discarded here in the states.
So again, what is it specifically that you believe cannot be rehabilitated in our education system?
I like this second version of homeschooling a lot better @tedincarolina despite what you said a few days ago. 
I like this second version of homeschooling a lot better @tedincarolina despite what you said a few days ago.
You like the one where we just don't teach our children anything beyond what mom and dad can teach them?
Yeah, i don't like that one very much Ted. That's what you were saying in some of your posts a few days ago, but it's cool because the past is the past and now, here in this post you're showing a bit more balance and you're not going into one extreme or another.
I agree with a lot of what you've said in this recent post (#42).
That's what you were saying in some of your posts a few days ago, but it's cool because the past is the past and now, here in this post you're showing a bit more balance and you're not going into one extreme or another. I agree with a lot of what you've said in this recent post (#42).
I'll teach 'em to read AND BELIEVE the Bible and what it says. I'll get 'em in church so that they can be Born Again of the spirit, and become Christians, and I'll teach 'em NOT TO BELIEVE ANYTHING that the Media (National, or Social) tries to convince them of, because IT'S ALL LIES!!!
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I understand your views are a bit on the right.
So it's kind of like a chocolate or vanilla preference i'm thinking. BabylonBee is funny because they don't need to do much work because the self-evident insanity of calling a "man in a dress a woman" is funny into itself and doesn't require a whole lot of creative work to make the audience laugh.
But the onion, does its moments despite the fact that the left can't meme.
So it's kind of like a chocolate or vanilla preference i'm thinking. BabylonBee is funny because they don't need to do much work because the self-evident insanity of calling a "man in a dress a woman" is funny into itself and doesn't require a whole lot of creative work to make the audience laugh.
But the onion, does its moments despite the fact that the left can't meme.
Bob, I watched the video back then and said to myself, this guy might be a little bit over the top for public consumption, but he's doing something that parents to be need to hear, especially those in their teens and early twenties. They need to determined what God's word says and take a stand on how they will raise their children right now.
If they don't, then the wicked state will raise them the way they want to.
There's always the state, the media, the heathen unbelievers who will fill the void and capture the minds of precious children when given a chance.
Good for you taking a stand.
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You are right about that. The medical profession did themselves no favors by revealing that they have no conscience and are willing to murder innocent trusting patients in exchange for money. The pretty smiling nurses and PAs are just as guilty as the MDs who's orders they carry out.
You'd think they would change their motto to "first do much harm if it will benefit the Drs and medical workers financially."
*New Hypocrite Oath
Mother's and father's have consulted with me about the fact their children became type 1 diabetic, or autistic from certain vaccines. There are plenty of researchers and physicians who have also proven the same and treated many patients harmed from vaccines. The same goes for adults. Plenty have been injected with toxic vaccines that have made them chronically ill and given them severe brain damage.
You might not agree with me. It's your choice how you raise your own children. Do you think that the state should force inject whatever substances that they and big pharma want to into the bodies of everyone's family?
I have been raise in a non christian family. My orginal family was a disaster, My mom died of a overdose when I was two years old. My dad could not take care of me so when I was three I came to a foster family. Most have been good there but not all. I am the only christian. My foster dad have teach me so many things that is not easy to change. I try to but I so easily fall back in how I live my life before. I really straggle a lot because I have lern a way from young age and now I have to change
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"tedincarolina, post: 5345144, member: 331742"]Hey Health and Happiness,
And what do you find offensive in the video regarding the establishment of the American school system? I mean, you do realize that every industrialized nation has government provided schooling, right?
There's a follow up video by John Gatto that goes beyond that introduction. I think it will be helpful to your family if you have any interest in other options.
You have asked a lot of questions, so perhaps you are.
Sure, you have some like in middle eastern nations where they won't let girls go to school and a few African nations that are too poor to offer government funded schooling.
The various home schooling methods that most American Christians use has good fruit. Their children often excel the governmental educational system in every category. I would never look to the African, Middle Eastern, or any other heathen nation for direction about how to raise children. The Bible should be the basis and plenty of Christians have done well.
But for the most part, people in general all across the globe have always supported an education system that teaches what we feel that our young people need to know to live as a productive part of any society.
Could it be that you are convinced that those who utilize a way of teaching other than government, are somehow not a productive part of society?
From the research I did at the College of Education at WVU, the home school mean in every category was on average superior to the mean of public and private schools.
When one reads the Old Testament, they find God angry with His people for following the ways of the heathens.
Sometimes that led to judgement of them by plague, famine, conquest by the heathens they followed.
If you're somehow trying to support an education system where we just trust that parents are going to teach their children what they need to know to function in the world, that's probably not a workable solution. It certainly doesn't seem to have gained much popularity with the majority of the nations on the planet. Or are you down with just lets not educate our children at all. They live and learn the things that are done around the house, although with mom and dad generally working, I don't know who they are going to be learning from, but basically they just learn whatever they can glean living in a family from birth until teenager, but nothing in the way of 'going to school'.
I believe that our society is far too technologically advanced in many, many jobs that enable people to provide a living for their family, without an education system that teaches the hard stuff for which specialists in various fields would teach a child. I know that I would have a really, really tuff time teaching my granddaughter her basic algebra 101. Do you think that we just don't need to teach children that or that most parents would handle it?
Have you ever talked to Christian parents who have home schooled?
There are far more options than the one and only government mandated one size fits all because we say so.
One high school student at my church was taught calculus by the head of the engineering department, a professor who teaches applied mathematics as his occupation. Others taught wildlife education and physical sciences to the children. The list goes on and on. The children are usually far more socialized to fit into society than their gt educated peers.
As adults there is far less promiscuity, adultery and divorce with couples who were homeschooled by intact Christian families.
Oh, and BTW, just because a nazi came up with an education model does not, ipso facto, make it bad. And I'm pretty sure that any of the bad stuff we've discarded here in the states.
So again, what is it specifically that you believe cannot be rehabilitated in our education system?[/QUOTE
And what do you find offensive in the video regarding the establishment of the American school system? I mean, you do realize that every industrialized nation has government provided schooling, right?
There's a follow up video by John Gatto that goes beyond that introduction. I think it will be helpful to your family if you have any interest in other options.
You have asked a lot of questions, so perhaps you are.
Sure, you have some like in middle eastern nations where they won't let girls go to school and a few African nations that are too poor to offer government funded schooling.
The various home schooling methods that most American Christians use has good fruit. Their children often excel the governmental educational system in every category. I would never look to the African, Middle Eastern, or any other heathen nation for direction about how to raise children. The Bible should be the basis and plenty of Christians have done well.
But for the most part, people in general all across the globe have always supported an education system that teaches what we feel that our young people need to know to live as a productive part of any society.
Could it be that you are convinced that those who utilize a way of teaching other than government, are somehow not a productive part of society?
From the research I did at the College of Education at WVU, the home school mean in every category was on average superior to the mean of public and private schools.
When one reads the Old Testament, they find God angry with His people for following the ways of the heathens.
Sometimes that led to judgement of them by plague, famine, conquest by the heathens they followed.
If you're somehow trying to support an education system where we just trust that parents are going to teach their children what they need to know to function in the world, that's probably not a workable solution. It certainly doesn't seem to have gained much popularity with the majority of the nations on the planet. Or are you down with just lets not educate our children at all. They live and learn the things that are done around the house, although with mom and dad generally working, I don't know who they are going to be learning from, but basically they just learn whatever they can glean living in a family from birth until teenager, but nothing in the way of 'going to school'.
I believe that our society is far too technologically advanced in many, many jobs that enable people to provide a living for their family, without an education system that teaches the hard stuff for which specialists in various fields would teach a child. I know that I would have a really, really tuff time teaching my granddaughter her basic algebra 101. Do you think that we just don't need to teach children that or that most parents would handle it?
Have you ever talked to Christian parents who have home schooled?
There are far more options than the one and only government mandated one size fits all because we say so.
One high school student at my church was taught calculus by the head of the engineering department, a professor who teaches applied mathematics as his occupation. Others taught wildlife education and physical sciences to the children. The list goes on and on. The children are usually far more socialized to fit into society than their gt educated peers.
As adults there is far less promiscuity, adultery and divorce with couples who were homeschooled by intact Christian families.
Oh, and BTW, just because a nazi came up with an education model does not, ipso facto, make it bad. And I'm pretty sure that any of the bad stuff we've discarded here in the states.
So again, what is it specifically that you believe cannot be rehabilitated in our education system?[/QUOTE
Yeah, i don't like that one very much Ted. That's what you were saying in some of your posts a few days ago, but it's cool because the past is the past and now, here in this post you're showing a bit more balance and you're not going into one extreme or another.
I agree with a lot of what you've said in this recent post (#42).
That's what you were saying in some of your posts a few days ago, but it's cool because the past is the past and now, here in this post you're showing a bit more balance and you're not going into one extreme or another. I agree with a lot of what you've said in this recent post (#42).
Don't know what you've been reading, but I assure you that I have never advocated for just having mom and dad teach whatever they can teach.
Sorry, but you've gotten me confused with someone else.
God bless,
Ted
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In Sweden we don't have home school and I am happy for that. I think is always good to interact with other people even if it not always is a christian person. Jesus did mostly meet non christian people, and he told us to do the same to be a disciple for him in the world. So no live by the world but in the world, Meet other people, non christian and be a light for them.
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Hi @HealthAndHappiness
Sure, I've talked to parents who have homeschooled. Some are good educators. Others not so much. And yes, I would agree that even a solid christian education from some local fellowship of believers, which is where my son went, generally means far less promiscuity, adultery and divorce. But you've got a blind spot that you're not seeing in all of that.
AMERICA IS NOT A NATION OF CHRISTIAN PARENTS FOR THE MOST PART. Sure, if a christian parent wants to take on the responsibility of teaching their child, there are hundreds of programs where they can follow along with what's being taught in the schools along with the words of God, But you don't seem to understand that we are not, as any kind of majority, a nation of christian parents that want to take on that responsibility. Many christian homes have two working parents. You don't know that I'm guessing. Many christian homes, don't have a parent that would even consider themselves qualified to teach their children. It's a fairly daunting task.
Yes, I know a family that homeschooled their son. They went to the same fellowship that I went to. But their son grew up to be a simpleton in anything requiring knowledge beyond water is wet. The mother would spend all day with him out shopping and doing things. His father owned a lawn service and generally would take the boy out with him to do lawn work. I would venture that by the time that young man reached the age of senior in high school, he likely couldn't pass a sixth grade math test or a spelling bee of any type. The boy knew to eat and breath and he could talk, but he had no knowledge of anything other than the basics one needs to live. Sadly, for the boy's sake, the parents should have sent their son to public school where he could have at least had a chance to learn what today is considered useable knowledge.
So please, don't misunderstand. I'm all for parents, who feel they can handle the responsibility and have the time to homeschool their children to homeschool their children. And as far as I know, here in the U.S. every parent can do that if they want to. But you don't get it! We're a nation of 330 million people which makes up some 50 million families and they can't all handle that responsibility, nor do many of them want to. So, in your little world where everything is how you would run things, you're probably right. But out here in the real world where the reality of great numbers of people trying to school their children, I don't think it's as likely to be the right choice.
God bless,
Ted
Sure, I've talked to parents who have homeschooled. Some are good educators. Others not so much. And yes, I would agree that even a solid christian education from some local fellowship of believers, which is where my son went, generally means far less promiscuity, adultery and divorce. But you've got a blind spot that you're not seeing in all of that.
AMERICA IS NOT A NATION OF CHRISTIAN PARENTS FOR THE MOST PART. Sure, if a christian parent wants to take on the responsibility of teaching their child, there are hundreds of programs where they can follow along with what's being taught in the schools along with the words of God, But you don't seem to understand that we are not, as any kind of majority, a nation of christian parents that want to take on that responsibility. Many christian homes have two working parents. You don't know that I'm guessing. Many christian homes, don't have a parent that would even consider themselves qualified to teach their children. It's a fairly daunting task.
Yes, I know a family that homeschooled their son. They went to the same fellowship that I went to. But their son grew up to be a simpleton in anything requiring knowledge beyond water is wet. The mother would spend all day with him out shopping and doing things. His father owned a lawn service and generally would take the boy out with him to do lawn work. I would venture that by the time that young man reached the age of senior in high school, he likely couldn't pass a sixth grade math test or a spelling bee of any type. The boy knew to eat and breath and he could talk, but he had no knowledge of anything other than the basics one needs to live. Sadly, for the boy's sake, the parents should have sent their son to public school where he could have at least had a chance to learn what today is considered useable knowledge.
So please, don't misunderstand. I'm all for parents, who feel they can handle the responsibility and have the time to homeschool their children to homeschool their children. And as far as I know, here in the U.S. every parent can do that if they want to. But you don't get it! We're a nation of 330 million people which makes up some 50 million families and they can't all handle that responsibility, nor do many of them want to. So, in your little world where everything is how you would run things, you're probably right. But out here in the real world where the reality of great numbers of people trying to school their children, I don't think it's as likely to be the right choice.
God bless,
Ted
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Sounds good Ted, let’s just say that it’s my fault and like I said, the past is the past.
You do seem to do that a lot though. Misrepresenting things that I've said. Didn't you apologize to me some time back that you had misunderstood something that we were talking about? I don't remember the details now and I'm not even absolutely sure that it was you, but I think it was. Was it? Do you recall those posts about 3 weeks back or so, I seem to recall.