Is black racism more virtuous than other racisms?

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Nehemiah6

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Christians know and understand that all kinds of racism are wrong, since (1) God has created all men “of one blood”, (2) all have descended from Adam, (3) all are sinners, (4) all need to be saved by grace through faith, and (5) all need to become brothers and sisters in Christ. Christians also know that every race (ethnic group) is represented within the USA, and there is little or no racial conflict.

However, ever since the Marxist domestic terrorist organization known as Black Lives Matter (BLM) came into existence a few years ago, the evil idea that black racism is more virtuous than any other kind of racism is being promoted worldwide (and gaining a lot of support from feckless politicians). It is also heavily funded by the likes of George Soros (who hates America), since it is a political ploy meant to destroy the Western world, democracy, freedom, and nationalism. To say nothing of the destruction of American cities and monuments.

There was a time when white racism was quite prevalent, and it began with the colonial period of history. European nations went into other parts of the world and discovered that those countries were still living in abysmal conditions, but there were all kinds of natural resources which could be exploited for the benefit of Europe and the detriment of the third world. And this is exactly what happened.

In America, first the Spaniards, and then others discovered that here was a continent waiting to be exploited, with no regard to the people who lived there already. Hence the buffalo were exterminated, and the Indians were reduced to handouts on reservations (which had little value). The treatment of Native Americans was also a reflection of white racism.

But colonialism came to an end by about 1950, and since then white racism has been on the decline. Indeed it would be fair to say that in the USA there have been the most drastic changes in attitudes, and most of the white population is not racist. In a population of about 330 million, there may only be about 1 million White Supremacists, but they are not attempting to destroy America either.

Slavery in America ended in 1865. But white racism did not end at that time. However between 1960 and 2008, American blacks made tremendous progress in every occupation, and throughout society and government. “Systemic Racism” and “White Privilege” are simply Marxist slogans meant to incite the black population, since they have no reality.

When black Barack Obama actually became POTUS, it was a clear indication that racism in America was a thing of the past. But Obama himself was a black racist who hated America, and was trained in Communist tactics by Saul Alinsky. His agenda was to destroy America and promote blacks regardless of character or qualifications. And ever since he took office, black racism became a various serious cancer in America. But after Donald Trump took office, the hatred against whites by some (not all) blacks became very evident, and now BLM is using race to destroy the cities of America, while the rest of the people simply stand by. Trump was constantly accused of being a racist, even though there was no evidence to support such a baseless accusation.

There is no question that there are a few bad eggs in all the police forces, and they have used police brutality against black suspects for some time. By the same token the majority of criminals who commit murder in the US are blacks (and black on black crime is worse than black on white crime). But the issue of white police against black suspects could have been easily addressed by ensuring that there were sufficient black police officers to go into black communities and arrest blacks, so that the issue of racism could not come up. Now, because of a few white bad eggs in the police forces, BLM has been shouting to defund the police, and the corrupt and cowardly politicians in various cities have caved in to this nonsense. If the police are defunded, guess who will control the cities of America? All the mafias and cartels of the world are waiting with bated breath.

The latest evidence of black racism is the insistence by the Democrats (black and white) that Joe Biden must have a black woman as his running mate for Vice President. This is pure racism, since other qualifications have no bearing on this kind of identity politics. (And if this woman had been transgender, that would be even more delightful). But Kamala Harris is an extremely opportunistic and evil woman, who wants to promote extreme Socialism, as well as black privilege in America. She has absolutely no redeeming qualities, and Biden is being saddled with her, since in the end she would oust him (or have him ousted) and become President.

It is about time that black, white, Hispanic, Indian, and other voices were raised against discrimination on the basis of color, particularly favoritism of blacks over whites. There is no call for such nonsense. There is also no call for reparations, since the USA has more than compensated for the past with Affirmative Action, and other initiatives. It is also about time that someone told all those black athletes who have been *taking the knee* during the national anthem, that they can either be charged with sedition and treason, and be locked up, or they can abandon all such seditious activity and focus on sports. Once again we see that everyone has been simply caving in to black nonsense because they are all afraid of being called “racist”.
 

soggykitten

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Don't tell me, you were one of those kids that thought tossing a snap firecracker toward a puddle of gasoline would be no big deal, right? ;)

There likely were many a Christian in the early 20th century that argued the Bible supported segregation. I'd think many of our segregation laws in the U.S would have been argued as to stem from there.

However, today we've been led to believe and for many years now that racism is a white thing. And all others are its victim.
However, I would say that the closeted or largely ignored, if not wholly, racism that can be found among people in the black community is becoming more pronounced, and thanks to a formerly silent media on that subject, due to the domestic terror exploits of BLM.

And when an entity speaks for itself that it is racist, I'd say, believe them.

BLM has a commercial out, and amazingly sponsors so as to be a multi-million dollar entity now, wherein they close their commercial spot with the narrator stating, "Because no lives matter until black lives matter."
Not only is that Misanthropic, but given it is uttered by a black terrorist group, it is patently Racist. BLM are a violent domestic terror group active in America, adding, Racist to that descriptive, is apt I think. Because in this world at this time, it is vital for Christians to know and identify the armies of Satan. BLM is but one.

By the way, there is no such thing as virtuous Racism. And BHO is not black. He's Mulatto.His parents are mixed, his mother is Caucasian. That precludes BHO from being "classified" as black.
 

rastai

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I have many ideological disputes with some BLM members and/or leaders. The basic concept is biblically sound. Racism by no means died in 2008, it actually seems to have gotten worse. Black people have been mistreated by society for 100s of years and it is very naive to think that slavery and subsequent form of systematic racism do not continue to have an effect on the mental, pysical and spiritual well being of a disproportional percentage of those who are ancestors of slaves. Why is it that black people have higher rates of poverty and less wealth. Saying it is their own fault is like saying they are inferior. If black people are not inferior, then there must be another cause. This is what is often called systematic racism. Anyone can be racist toward any other race and it is wrong. Christians should embrace BLM and emphasize the Christian elements within it of charity and equality. The least shall be first. Those at the bottom of society should be helped the most to fulfill God's commandment.
 

soggykitten

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I have many ideological disputes with some BLM members and/or leaders. The basic concept is biblically sound. Racism by no means died in 2008, it actually seems to have gotten worse. Black people have been mistreated by society for 100s of years and it is very naive to think that slavery and subsequent form of systematic racism do not continue to have an effect on the mental, pysical and spiritual well being of a disproportional percentage of those who are ancestors of slaves. Why is it that black people have higher rates of poverty and less wealth. Saying it is their own fault is like saying they are inferior. If black people are not inferior, then there must be another cause. This is what is often called systematic racism. Anyone can be racist toward any other race and it is wrong. Christians should embrace BLM and emphasize the Christian elements within it of charity and equality. The least shall be first. Those at the bottom of society should be helped the most to fulfill God's commandment.
Are you for real?
Who said or implied Racism ended in 2008? Are you thinking that may have been imagined due to a Mulatto Democrat being elected President? BHO is not black. His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was Caucasian.

Name a Christian element within BLM.
Is it Christian to invade a city and use violence to command six to ten city blocks? (Seattle Washington)

What is with saying all that and then closing by calling blacks, those at the bottom of society?
Are you baiting or are you a for real newbie.

Is this owing the ancestors of slaves? From 2017- 4 in custody after mentally disabled man tied up, tortured on Facebook Live
From among those 4 offenders, Brittany Covington, 19 plead guilty. *Woman pleads guilty to hate crime in beating of disabled teen live on Facebook (She received 4 years probation! That means she's free on the streets as of 2017 people!:mad:)
The other three?
April 19, 2018, Tanishia Covington pled guilty to the charges of committing a hate crime, intimidation and aggravated battery and was sentenced to three years in prison.[17]

On July 5, 2018, Jordan Hill pled guilty to the charges of aggravated kidnapping and committing a hate crime and was sentenced to eight years in prison.[18][19]

On July 12, 2018, Tesfaye Cooper pled guilty to a hate crime and aggravated kidnapping.[20] Cooper has been sentenced to seven years in prison.[21]
 

Roughsoul1991

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I actually had a Christian try to teach me what systemic racism is and what is racist. She gave me this chart lol. Take a close look at the topics in the covert section.

Or the Smithsonian Museum tried to teach us this chart below. Try to zoom in or look it up.

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Basically, ignorance..... Ignorance everywhere.
 

Fundamental

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Are we all descendants of Adam and Eve or is there theological room to debate this? It seems people of Genesis 1 were created different from Adam and Eve in Genesis 2.

I find these racial issues not of this age anymore. Only people with low self esteems fixate on the color of their skin. Make some personalities white or black and it wont change a thing. Results are earned, not complained together.
 

Nehemiah6

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I find these racial issues not of this age anymore.
They are very definitely of this age. Otherwise the Democrats would be choosing the person most qualified to be a VP. Not insisting on having a black woman as Biden's running mate.
 

Fundamental

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They are very definitely of this age. Otherwise the Democrats would be choosing the person most qualified to be a VP. Not insisting on having a black woman as Biden's running mate.
If he wants to select people on gender or color, that is on him. In Europe it’s a regular thing. We even get people we did not elect. Democrazy at its best.
Churches are of no color. None so whatsoever. Galatians 3:28. Politicians trying to divide should not be given that much attention. Only the devil lives up from all this hatred. Biden will be forgotten but His name is everlasting.

Keep your eyes on Jesus.
 
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I suspect
Christians know and understand that all kinds of racism are wrong, ...
Maybe you ought to define "racism". That's a weaponized word that takes on a lot of different meanings depending on the situation and who is wielding it. It changes meaning so much and so quickly.
 

rastai

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rastai, you are either grossly misinformed or a troll. Here is what BLM believes, from their own words.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
Yes, I have serious problems with some of those beliefs. I also know for a fact that Black people are greatly mistreated in today's society. There are some churches that have beliefs I disagree with as well. Why throw out the baby with the bath water? From what I see , the main thing they are addressing is the problem of racial inequality. That issue specifically I can get behind whole heartedly.
 

rastai

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They are very definitely of this age. Otherwise the Democrats would be choosing the person most qualified to be a VP. Not insisting on having a black woman as Biden's running mate.
Are you for real?
Who said or implied Racism ended in 2008? Are you thinking that may have been imagined due to a Mulatto Democrat being elected President? BHO is not black. His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was Caucasian.

Name a Christian element within BLM.
Is it Christian to invade a city and use violence to command six to ten city blocks? (Seattle Washington)

What is with saying all that and then closing by calling blacks, those at the bottom of society?
Are you baiting or are you a for real newbie.

Is this owing the ancestors of slaves? From 2017- 4 in custody after mentally disabled man tied up, tortured on Facebook Live
From among those 4 offenders, Brittany Covington, 19 plead guilty. *Woman pleads guilty to hate crime in beating of disabled teen live on Facebook (She received 4 years probation! That means she's free on the streets as of 2017 people!:mad:)
The other three?
April 19, 2018, Tanishia Covington pled guilty to the charges of committing a hate crime, intimidation and aggravated battery and was sentenced to three years in prison.[17]

On July 5, 2018, Jordan Hill pled guilty to the charges of aggravated kidnapping and committing a hate crime and was sentenced to eight years in prison.[18][19]

On July 12, 2018, Tesfaye Cooper pled guilty to a hate crime and aggravated kidnapping.[20] Cooper has been sentenced to seven years in prison.[21]
Race is a social construct. in Bible times, there was no such thing as race, only tribes. Society considers anyone who looks like Obama black. Why are you giving examples of horrific crimes? What is the point of that? You think people do not know that evil exists in all colors of people. To answer your baited question, no it is not owing the ancestors of slaves. Owing the ancestors of slaves would be something like free higher education for everyone, universal health care, and housing as a right.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Race is a social construct. in Bible times, there was no such thing as race, only tribes. Society considers anyone who looks like Obama black. Why are you giving examples of horrific crimes? What is the point of that? You think people do not know that evil exists in all colors of people. To answer your baited question, no it is not owing the ancestors of slaves. Owing the ancestors of slaves would be something like free higher education for everyone, universal health care, and housing as a right.
When did something like free college, free health care, and free housing become a right? Who would pay for it? Who would organize it?
 

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However, ever since the Marxist domestic terrorist organization known as Black Lives Matter (BLM) came into existence a few years ago, the evil idea that black racism is more virtuous than any other kind of racism is being promoted worldwide
Since you insist on repeatedly labelling BLM as Marxist, clearly you believe that black racism is more virtuous than other forms. All you have to do is show a little solidarity toward black people, as they're getting constantly shot by American police and the police repeatedly get systemically exonerated for it. Yet you do the opposite. Since you are practicing it, obviously you feel it is more virtuous than others.
 

rastai

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When did something like free college, free health care, and free housing become a right? Who would pay for it? Who would organize it?
Here in the USA, paying for it would be no problem at all. Look at the trillions being paid for corporate welfare in the form of tax breaks and bail outs; The trillions paid for nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Here in the USA, paying for it would be no problem at all. Look at the trillions being paid for corporate welfare in the form of tax breaks and bail outs; The trillions paid for nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction.
Despite the problem with government welfare anything so you would scrap all welfare to promote more government controlled free college, free housing, and free healthcare? Nuclear is clean energy and very effective. Nuclear weapons are good.

What is wrong with getting a job? Cracking down on college corruption? Privatizing healthcare? And more jobs, plus low unemployment means more can afford housing.
 

Nehemiah6

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Since you insist on repeatedly labelling BLM as Marxist, clearly you believe that black racism is more virtuous than other forms.
What kind of double-talk is that? How can black racism be more virtuous if Marxism is evil, and racism is evil, and BLM promotes both Marxism and racism.

The matter of Marxism: Black Lives Matter is rooted in a soulless ideology

...In comments uncovered and reprinted in The National Pulse, Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors reveals that she and fellow co-founder Alicia Garza are followers of an ideology that could not be more foreign to the American way: “We actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular, we’re trained organizers. We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on ideological theories.” ...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/29/editorial-black-lives-matter-is-rooted-in-a-soulle/
 

rastai

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Despite the problem with government welfare anything so you would scrap all welfare to promote more government controlled free college, free housing, and free healthcare? Nuclear is clean energy and very effective. Nuclear weapons are good.

What is wrong with getting a job? Cracking down on college corruption? Privatizing healthcare? And more jobs, plus low unemployment means more can afford housing.
Nothing is wrong with getting a job. Everyone should be able to get a decent job. A job in and of itself does not fix the problem. Many jobs do not even pay enough to survive. The reason for this is corporate greed. The minimum wage in this country is a sin in itself. What's wrong with giving people dignity. This is the wealthiest, most technologically advanced country in the world. All that wealth and technology comes from the hard work and ingenuity of millions of people over generations. It is a travesty that we have such income and wealth inequality. There is no reason and no excuse. The Lord has made more then enough for each and everyone to live in peace and security. You think that we are limited. We are in fact not. There are not a limited but a limitless number of opportunities. The only reason we do not have this is that we do not allow government to protect against greed.
 

rastai

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Hard work is for dummies. At least that is the philosophy of those who sponge off others.
I work hard. I have my own business. work hard 60+ hours a week and I do ok for myself. I also have no problem paying my taxes and having a large portion of that go to give other people the chance to acquire the skills and the health to better their lives. In fact, the harder I work and the more I succeed, the more grateful I feel that I want to help those less fortunate. The problem is not everyone is generous or of goodwill. that is why the government should make everyone accountable through a fare an equitable tax system.