Same sex marriage is an abomination and if you support it you are not a christian

[Gazza21]

Lying (not under oath or in fraud cases), adultery, women being leaders, eating shrimp, wearing mixed fabrics, marrying YOUR FREAKIN COUSIN, bashing the name of God, getting drunk, worshiping other gods/no gods at all, witchcraft, dishonoring your family (honor thy father and mother) and fornication. All very legal sins that that anti-homosexual community haven't attempted to touch yet (well, Prohibition, but still.) You all say that you want God's word to rule America, when really you just want your hatred to rule this country. I'm pretty sure Satan worship and lying(bad enough to be in the 10 Commandments) would anger God A LOT more than someone being born gay.

Prove to me that you are born gay? I no many Christians that struggle with gay feelings and that ALL say it is has something to do with there childhood. God creates everyone in their mothers womb, He would not make you gay as it goes against His word, and God honers His word above His name. It says that Jesus is the name above all names, So His word must be pretty powerful.

Also if someone IS (not fact) born gay, do you not think God could not heal them. He is the God that heals.

 

[jandian]

It also goes against our genetic make up. But thats a whole other discussion

 

[shininglight]

Lying (not under oath or in fraud cases), adultery, women being leaders, eating shrimp, wearing mixed fabrics, marrying YOUR FREAKIN COUSIN, bashing the name of God, getting drunk, worshiping other gods/no gods at all, witchcraft, dishonoring your family (honor thy father and mother) and fornication. All very legal sins that that anti-homosexual community haven't attempted to touch yet (well, Prohibition, but still.) You all say that you want God's word to rule America, when really you just want your hatred to rule this country. I'm pretty sure Satan worship and lying(bad enough to be in the 10 Commandments) would anger God A LOT more than someone being born gay.

I'm not saying homosexuality should be illegal, I'm saying homosexual couples shouldnt be able to get married. I wanna address a couple of things you pointed out though.

1) Women leaders - I have no problem with women leaders, I just dont think the should be preachers in the church.

2) Eating shrimp and wearing mixed fabrics - This was a law giving to Israel and is no where mentioned in the new testament.

3) Marrying your freaking cousin - While this DEFINITELY is not my thing, it is technically not a sin. In April 2002, the Journal of Genetic Counseling released a report which estimated the average risk of birth defects in a child born of first cousins at 1.7–2.8% over an average base risk for non-cousin couples of 3%, or about the same as that of any woman over age 40.[181] In terms of mortality, a 1994 study found a mean excess pre-reproductive mortality rate of 4.4%,[182] While another study published in 2009 suggests the rate may be closer to 3.5%.[2] Put differently, first-cousin marriage entails a similar increased risk of birth defects and mortality as a woman faces when she gives birth at age 41 rather than at 30.

 

[shininglight]

Even IF someone was born with a predisposition to homosexuality it doesn't give them the right to live a homosexual life style anymore than it gives someone born with a predisposition to alcoholism the right to be an alcoholic.

 

[Tsalagi]

Leviticus laws also claim it's an abomination to eat shrimp. Christians do not follow the Old Testament laws. Ezekiel 16:49-50 explains the sins of Sodom.

"Sodom's sins were pride, gluttony, and laziness, while the poor and needy suffered outside her door. She was proud and committed detestable sins, so I wiped her out, as you have seen." New Living Translation, Ezekiel 16:49-50

So, yeah, Sodom's sins are clearly listed. Says nothing about homosexual acts.

 

[shininglight]

Leviticus laws also claim it's an abomination to eat shrimp. Christians do not follow the Old Testament laws. Ezekiel 16:49-50 explains the sins of Sodom.

"Sodom's sins were pride, gluttony, and laziness, while the poor and needy suffered outside her door. She was proud and committed detestable sins, so I wiped her out, as you have seen." New Living Translation, Ezekiel 16:49-50

So, yeah, Sodom's sins are clearly listed. Says nothing about homosexual acts.

Read Jude my friend.

Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

 

[Tsalagi]

Going after strange flesh sounds more like going after the angels to me.

 

[lil_christian]

Going after strange flesh sounds more like going after the angels to me.

angels? Really? 9 times out of 10 people don't even SEE angels. It's always been like that. People have SOMETIMES seen angels but not a whole lot. Doesn't really happen everyday. Was like that back in Bible times, is like that now.

 

[shininglight]

Going after strange flesh sounds more like going after the angels to me.

Lets suppose for one second this is true. What sex did they believe the angels to be?

Gen 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
Gen 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

 

[shininglight]

Jude 1:7

Robertsons Word Pictures

Strange flesh (sarkos heteras). Horrible licentiousness, not simply with women not their wives or in other nations, but even unnatural uses (Rom_1:27) for which the very word “sodomy” is used (Gen_19:4-11). The pronoun heteras (other, strange) is not in 2Pe_2:10.

Vincents Word Studies

Going after (ἀπελθοῦσαι ὀπίσ&#969
The aorist participle. Rev., having gone. The phrase occurs Mar_1:20; James and John leaving their father and going after Jesus. “The world is gone after him” (Joh_12:19). Here metaphorical. The force of ἀπό is away; turning away from purity, and going after strange flesh.

Strange flesh
Compare 2Pe_2:10; and see Rom_1:27; Lev_18:22, Lev_18:23. Also Jowett's introduction to Plato's “Symposium ;” Plato's “Laws,” viii., 836, 841; Döllinger, “The Gentile and the Jew,” Darnell's trans., ii., 238 sq.

 

[Tsalagi]

They believed the angels to be male, which is totally irrelevant. Angels aren't the same species as humans. It would be like trying to call a male human having sex with a male dog an act of homosexuality. Besides, sex with angels may have happened. Genesis 6 mentions the Nephilim, which some scholars believe to be the offspring of angels.

 

[shininglight]

They believed the angels to be male, which is totally irrelevant. Angels aren't the same species as humans. It would be like trying to call a male human having sex with a male dog an act of homosexuality. Besides, sex with angels may have happened. Genesis 6 mentions the Nephilim, which some scholars believe to be the offspring of angels.

You are going down a dangerous road my friend. You are straining and wrestling so hard with scripture to try and find away to justify a particular sin. For your own sake, just accept it. Homosexuality is a sin no matter how much the world or liberal Christians try and tell you its not.

 

[Tsalagi]

I'm not homosexual. I don't plan to ever have sex with a man or marry a man. No one in my family is gay. So, my reading the Bible and believing that it does not condemn homosexuality is of absolutely ZERO profit to me. I truly do not believe the Bible condemns homosexuality. I've done a fair amount of praying and soul searching and Biblical study and I do not believe the Bible condemns it. Those are my feelings and God has lead me to those feelings. If you have an issue with how I feel, take it up with God.

 

[jandian]

I'm not homosexual. I don't plan to ever have sex with a man or marry a man. No one in my family is gay. So, my reading the Bible and believing that it does not condemn homosexuality is of absolutely ZERO profit to me. I truly do not believe the Bible condemns homosexuality. I've done a fair amount of praying and soul searching and Biblical study and I do not believe the Bible condemns it. Those are my feelings and God has lead me to those feelings. If you have an issue with how I feel, take it up with God.

I'm sorry, which bible are you reading again?
the one that said do not lay with a man as a man lay with a woman in both the old and new testament

 

[FrankensteinGirls]

Lets suppose for one second this is true. What sex did they believe the angels to be?

Gen 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
Gen 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

But it's totally cool that the man offered his daughters them to be raped in the angels place..

why is homosexuality the only seemingly recognized "sin" for this place? It's not like they just wanted to have same sex relationships, they wanted to rape them.

 

[lil_christian]

I'm not homosexual. I don't plan to ever have sex with a man or marry a man. No one in my family is gay. So, my reading the Bible and believing that it does not condemn homosexuality is of absolutely ZERO profit to me. I truly do not believe the Bible condemns homosexuality. I've done a fair amount of praying and soul searching and Biblical study and I do not believe the Bible condemns it. Those are my feelings and God has lead me to those feelings. If you have an issue with how I feel, take it up with God.

You're right He's not gonna condemn. But God also does not want us to continue in sin...

Romans 6:1-3

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

Believers Are Dead to Sin, Alive to God

6 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? 2 May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it?

 

[Tsalagi]

The OT is irrelevant because we don't follow the 613. I have already addressed the NT on several occasions.

 

[shininglight]

But it's totally cool that the man offered his daughters them to be raped in the angels place..

why is homosexuality the only seemingly recognized "sin" for this place? It's not like they just wanted to have same sex relationships, they wanted to rape them.

Who said "its totally cool that the man offered his daughters them to be raped in the angels place"?

I see people pretty much saying homosexuality is totally cool though and that's why we keep harping on it.

 

[jandian]

1 Corinthians 6
New King James Version (NKJV)
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

Romans 1
New King James Version (NKJV)
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

Think you missed a couple new testament scriptures

 

[Tsalagi]

I already addressed both of those specifically. You can go back through the posts and find my responses.