SHOCK REPORT: Only 9,210 Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone

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Nehemiah6

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Covid19 only deaths does not give us an accurate assessment of the deaths that resulted from the effects of the virus.
So let's double that number for the sake of argument. 18,000 deaths vs 160,000 deaths? No contest.

And if you want to go strictly by established protocol, it should always be deaths per 100,000 of the population. So lets divide 18,000 by 330,000,000 (330 million). So that number is 0.00005454545. Now let's multiply that by 100,000 and what do we get?

That is 5.5 deaths/ 100,000. But for seasonal flus it is avg 19.5 deaths/100,000.

DO YOU SEE WHY THE PANIC AND FEAR-MONGERING WERE TOTALLY BOGUS?
 

Billyd

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We are seeing an uptick in college campus cases. Why are we seeing the uptick? Auburn traced theirs back to weekend gatherings at two bars, and frat parties. The bars have closed for two weeks, and restrictions have been placed on parties. We'll see what happens?

Most Secondary Schools have reopened. A month will tell what happens.

I am not supporting lock downs. I do support wearing masks, washing hands, and maintaining safe distances. I do support containment of infection outbreaks (closing an infected school or business, and isolating employees and patrons who have been exposed.
 
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Note: I am re-printing below this article from The Gateway Pundit which BLOWS AWAY all the bogus nonsense and fear-mongering about coronavirus. People throw your masks away and tell the politicians and the President to get back to life before January 1, 2020 -- "No more COVID FASCISM".

SHOCK REPORT: This Week CDC Quietly Updated COVID-19 Numbers – Only 9,210 Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone – Rest Had Different Other Serious Illnesses

So get this straight – based on the recommendation of doctors Fauci and Birx the US shut down the entire economy based on 9,000 American deaths to the China coronavirus.

We were first to report that the Director General of the WHO on March 3, 2020 a set off the panic with his highly flawed statement:

“Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.”

This statement caused a global panic. We, however, knew it was wrong and we wrote about it on March 17, 2020. Here is the video of Dr. Ghebreyesus’s remarks.

While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease.

The WHO leader’s coronavirus death rate number of 3.4% was false and we proved this in our post.

The Gateway Pundit reported, that the coronavirus fatality rate reported by the liberal mainstream media was completely inaccurate and the actual rate more like a typical seasonal flu – the media was lying again.

Doctors Fauci and Birx were next to push ridiculous and highly exaggerated mortality rates related to the coronavirus:

** Dr. Tony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx used the Imperial College Model to persuade President Trump to lock down the ENTIRE US ECONOMY.
** The fraudulent model predicted 2.2 million American deaths from the coronavirus pandemic
** The authors of the Imperial College Model shared their findings with the White House Coronavirus task force in early March
** Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx then met with President Trump privately and urged him to shut down the US economy and destroy the record Trump economy based on this model


But the Imperial College model Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx pushed was garbage and they recommended the destruction of the US economy using this model.

Today we now have empirical evidence that the WHO, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx were all wrong. They were charlatans. They lied.

The CDC silently updated their numbers this week to show that only 6% of all coronavirus deaths were related to the coronavirus alone. The rest of the deaths pinned to the China coronavirus are attributed to individuals who had other serious issues going on. Also, most of the deaths are related to very old Americans.

“This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to admit that only 6% of all the 153,504 deaths recorded actually died from Covid

That’s 9,210 deaths

The other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses & the overwhelming majority were of very advanced. Not only are the number of deaths related to the China coronavirus minuscule, the virus is naturally dying out.

The data above from Europe shows that the number of cases has little correlation to the number of deaths.

Let’s face it – at this moment in time anyone who is pushing for more lockdowns and other abuses on our personal rights is either evil or terribly misinformed.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...s-died-covid-19-alone-rest-serious-illnesses/
No, the CDC did not ‘quietly adjust’ US coronavirus deaths
IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
  • President Donald Trump retweeted multiple posts that falsely claimed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention decreased the number of U.S. coronavirus deaths to 9,210.
  • Those posts misconstrue data from the CDC, which shows that the vast majority of coronavirus-related deaths occur in patients who have comorbidities like influenza or pneumonia.
  • As of Aug. 31, the CDC reported that 182,622 Americans have died since the start of the pandemic. Some estimates put the death toll even higher.
See the sources for this fact-check
Over the weekend, President Donald Trump shared two posts that falsely claimed COVID-19 deaths are not as high as previously thought.

The posts claimed that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its COVID-19 death numbers to show that only 9,210 Americans have died from the virus. Twitter removed the first tweet for violating its rules. Another post from Jenna Ellis, a senior legal adviser for the Trump campaign, linked to a story from the Gateway Pundit, a conservative news site. That tweet was still up as of publication.

The tweets misconstrue federal data on COVID-19 victims.

As of Aug. 31, the CDC reported that 182,622 Americans have died since the start of the pandemic — and some estimates put the death toll even higher. The agency told us that the vast majority of deaths involving COVID-19 can be attributed to the virus.

Claims that the CDC adjusted its COVID-19 death numbers appear to have originated on Facebook before making their way to Trump’s Twitter feed, according to VineSight, an organization that uses artificial intelligence to surface potential misinformation. Several posts have been shared thousands of times.


(Screenshot from Facebook)

"CDC just backpedaled (quietly) and adjusted the US Covid deaths from 153,504 to 9,210," said Amiri King, a social media influencer and CBD salesman, in an Aug. 31 post that shows a screenshot of King’s tweet, which was also deleted. "Admitting that their numbers were so f---ed that they were off by a whopping 94%."

The posts were flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

Posts misconstrue CDC data
The social media posts trace back to an Aug. 26 update from the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), which is part of the CDC. The report is updated every Wednesday and outlines provisional death counts for COVID-19.

In his post, King cited an older version of a data table about deaths from COVID-19 in combination with other conditions, such as pneumonia and influenza.

In a section titled "Comorbidities," the NCHS wrote: "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death."

That data comes from death certificates.

King cited an older version of the NCHS report that analyzed 153,504 deaths involving COVID-19. Six percent of that figure is 9,210.

To some readers, the report may appear to confirm his math. But it doesn’t.
 

Nehemiah6

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Biden has publicly stated he would follow the science (Facui and Birx) and lockdown the U.S. for three months to save lives. Makes you wonder how qualified he is.
Since he introduced himself live on TV as "the husband of Joe Biden" what do you think? Fauci and Birx need to be behind bars at this very moment.
 

Nehemiah6

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See the sources for this fact-check
These fact checkers are as bogus as Fauci and Birx. Which means that you prefer Leftist lies. I could show you articles from half a dozen other CONSERVATIVE sources confirming what I posted in the OP.
 
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Billyd

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So let's double that number for the sake of argument. 18,000 deaths vs 160,000 deaths? No contest.

And if you want to go strictly by established protocol, it should always be deaths per 100,000 of the population. So lets divide 18,000 by 330,000,000 (330 million). So that number is 0.00005454545. Now let's multiply that by 100,000 and what do we get?

That is 5.5 deaths/ 100,000. But for seasonal flus it is avg 19.5 deaths/100,000.

DO YOU SEE WHY THE PANIC AND FEAR-MONGERING WERE TOTALLY BOGUS?
There is no panic here. Take my advice with a grain of salt. I am speaking from experience. In my entire lifetime (almost eighty years), I have known only three people who have died from the flu. During the past two months, 51 people that I know personally have died from the Covid19.
 

Nehemiah6

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Here's the Shockingly Small Number of People Who Died From Only the Coronavirus
"Hold on to your hat because here it is: out of the 161,392 deaths in the CDC data, just six percent, about 9,700 deaths, were attributed to the coronavirus alone. According to the CDC, the other 94 percent had an average of 2.6 additional conditions or causes of deaths, such as heart disease, diabetes, and sepsis."
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/brons...e-who-died-from-just-the-coronavirus-n2575306
 
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These fact checkers are as bogus as Fauci and Birx. Which means that you prefer Leftist lies. I could show you articles from half a dozen other CONSERVATIVE sources confirming what I posted in the OP.
Annals of Family Medicine, "Defining Comorbidity: Implications for Understanding Health and Health Services," July 2009

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, CDC COVID Data Tracker, accessed Aug. 31, 2020

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19): About CDC COVID-19 Data, July 13, 2020

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19): People with Certain Medical Conditions, Aug. 14, 2020

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19): Social Distancing, July 15, 2020

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Instructions for Completing the Cause-of-Death Section of the Death Certificate, accessed Aug. 31, 2020

Email from Dr. Myron Cohen, director of the Institute for Global Health and Infectious Diseases at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Aug. 31, 2020

Email from Jeff Lancashire, acting associate director for communications at the National Center for Health Statistics, Aug. 31, 2020

Facebook post, Aug. 29, 2020

Facebook post from Dr. Mark Halstead, Aug. 30, 2020

Facebook post, Aug. 31, 2020

The Gateway Pundit, "SHOCK REPORT: This Week CDC Quietly Updated COVID-19 Numbers – Only 9,210 Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone – Rest Had Different Other Serious Illnesses," Aug. 29, 2020

The Hill, "Trump retweets conspiracy theory questioning COVID-19 death toll," Aug. 31, 2020

National Center for Health Statistics, Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19), Aug. 26, 2020

The New York Times, "The True Coronavirus Toll in the U.S. Has Already Surpassed 200,000," Aug. 13, 2020

Tweet, Aug. 29, 2020

USA Today, "Twitter removes Trump retweet sharing false information on COVID-19 deaths," Aug. 31, 2020
 

PC123

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Six percent of covid deaths were without any co-morbidities...
It's still a profound fact for the CDC to be admitting... So many livelihoods destroyed for this... Pfft...
Lets turn everyone's lives upside down in order to save the lives of people who are already dying...
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We are seeing an uptick in college campus cases. Why are we seeing the uptick? Auburn traced theirs back to weekend gatherings at two bars, and frat parties. The bars have closed for two weeks, and restrictions have been placed on parties. We'll see what happens?

Most Secondary Schools have reopened. A month will tell what happens.

I am not supporting lock downs. I do support wearing masks, washing hands, and maintaining safe distances. I do support containment of infection outbreaks (closing an infected school or business, and isolating employees and patrons who have been exposed.
On another note ... At closer than 5 ft distancing 5g tracking technology can't distinguish one ID rfid chip from another .. jus sayin , just fattening the thanksgiving turkeys
 

bojack

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Annals of Family Medicine, "Defining Comorbidity: Implications for Understanding Health and Health Services," July 2009

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, CDC COVID Data Tracker, accessed Aug. 31, 2020

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19): About CDC COVID-19 Data, July 13, 2020

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19): People with Certain Medical Conditions, Aug. 14, 2020

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19): Social Distancing, July 15, 2020

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Instructions for Completing the Cause-of-Death Section of the Death Certificate, accessed Aug. 31, 2020

Email from Dr. Myron Cohen, director of the Institute for Global Health and Infectious Diseases at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Aug. 31, 2020

Email from Jeff Lancashire, acting associate director for communications at the National Center for Health Statistics, Aug. 31, 2020

Facebook post, Aug. 29, 2020

Facebook post from Dr. Mark Halstead, Aug. 30, 2020

Facebook post, Aug. 31, 2020

The Gateway Pundit, "SHOCK REPORT: This Week CDC Quietly Updated COVID-19 Numbers – Only 9,210 Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone – Rest Had Different Other Serious Illnesses," Aug. 29, 2020

The Hill, "Trump retweets conspiracy theory questioning COVID-19 death toll," Aug. 31, 2020

National Center for Health Statistics, Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19), Aug. 26, 2020

The New York Times, "The True Coronavirus Toll in the U.S. Has Already Surpassed 200,000," Aug. 13, 2020

Tweet, Aug. 29, 2020

USA Today, "Twitter removes Trump retweet sharing false information on COVID-19 deaths," Aug. 31, 2020
Anything fake news reports is a lie ... Can you explain the Smith Mundt Modernization Act ? You don't have to go into detail , just the jist of it will do ....
 

Nehemiah6

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The only thing this proves is that the Deep State and the Leftist mainstream media HATE THE TRUTH. Since you are also lining up with them, you are also identifying yourself as a hater of truth. Sad for a Christian.

So all the naysayers should go to the CDC website and look at the chart for "Comorbidities" ("conditions contributing to deaths where COVID-19 was listed on the death certificate"). This is the list from the CDC web site:

Influenza/pneumonia
Chronic lower respiratory disease
Adult respiratory distress syndrome
Respiratory failure
Respiratory arrest
Other respiratory diseases
Hypertensive diseases
Ischemic heart disease
Cardiac arrest
Cardiac arrhythmia
Heart failure
Cerebrovascular diseases
Other diseases of the circulatory system
Sepsis
Malignant neoplasms
Diabetes
Obesity
Alzheimer's disease
Vascular and unspecified dementia
Renal failure

[Injuries, poisoning, other adverse events
All other conditions and causes]

All those deaths MUST BE SUBTRACTED for a true count. Do the math. So no. Trump is NOT sharing false information. It is the media who continue to push FAKE NEWS.
 

Nehemiah6

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Lets turn everyone's lives upside down in order to save the lives of people who are already dying...
Over 43% of the COVID deaths were in nursing homes with residents in the upper age group (85+) where death was imminent regardless. So if those were subtracted, the whole picture would change.

People under 45 are hardly at risk, and they are the bulk of the population, where herd immunity would take over. And their lives have been turned upside down for COVID FASCISM. Power-hungry politicians just loved it when Trump handed over crucial decisions to them. Now they are going after Christians and churches with a vengeance. Just check the news. And Biden-Harris would simply take things to the extreme and establish a police state.
 
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where death was imminent regardless.
You have no knowledge of this, I have spent much time in long term care facilities and this is far from true and not only that, it is far from a Christian perspective that all life is valuable. Shame.
 
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Over 43% of the COVID deaths were in nursing homes with residents in the upper age group (85+) where death was imminent regardless. So if those were subtracted, the whole picture would change.

People under 45 are hardly at risk, and they are the bulk of the population, where herd immunity would take over. And their lives have been turned upside down for COVID FASCISM. Power-hungry politicians just loved it when Trump handed over crucial decisions to them. Now they are going after Christians and churches with a vengeance. Just check the news. And Biden-Harris would simply take things to the extreme and establish a police state.
There is no evidence herd immunity is possible yet.
 
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The only thing this proves is that the Deep State and the Leftist mainstream media HATE THE TRUTH. Since you are also lining up with them, you are also identifying yourself as a hater of truth. Sad for a Christian.

So all the naysayers should go to the CDC website and look at the chart for "Comorbidities" ("conditions contributing to deaths where COVID-19 was listed on the death certificate"). This is the list from the CDC web site:

Influenza/pneumonia
Chronic lower respiratory disease
Adult respiratory distress syndrome
Respiratory failure
Respiratory arrest
Other respiratory diseases
Hypertensive diseases
Ischemic heart disease
Cardiac arrest
Cardiac arrhythmia
Heart failure
Cerebrovascular diseases
Other diseases of the circulatory system
Sepsis
Malignant neoplasms
Diabetes
Obesity
Alzheimer's disease
Vascular and unspecified dementia
Renal failure

[Injuries, poisoning, other adverse events
All other conditions and causes]

All those deaths MUST BE SUBTRACTED for a true count. Do the math. So no. Trump is NOT sharing false information. It is the media who continue to push FAKE NEWS.
You can lead a man to the CDC site but you can teach him to comprehend what he reads. Well you can, but why bother.
 

hornetguy

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We are seeing an uptick in college campus cases. Why are we seeing the uptick? Auburn traced theirs back to weekend gatherings at two bars, and frat parties. The bars have closed for two weeks, and restrictions have been placed on parties. We'll see what happens?

Most Secondary Schools have reopened. A month will tell what happens.

I am not supporting lock downs. I do support wearing masks, washing hands, and maintaining safe distances. I do support containment of infection outbreaks (closing an infected school or business, and isolating employees and patrons who have been exposed.
I respect your opinion on this.... but, have you insisted that everyone wear masks during the high "flu season" that occurs annually in the US? There are WAY more deaths from that virus, and we even have vaccines for it. You have to keep things in perspective. Covid is not anything to ignore, neither is the seasonal flu.... but to shut down the economy, putting MILLIONS out of work, destroying the best economy we've EVER had..... because of deliberately flawed data?

It's time to open the economy back up.... let those with underlying conditions, or fears of catching it remain home, in their masks. There are going to be people that get it, and die from it..... JUST LIKE THE SEASONAL FLU. But to terrify the population, and shut it down, is something much more sinister in nature. It is politically motivated, and has been all along.
 

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Over here we have some of the most draconian restrictions in the west. Curfew from 8pm - 6am, can't visit anyone or have any visitors, can't travel more than 5km from home, can't leave the country, can only leave home for 1 hour for exercise or groceries, must be muzzled when leaving home, can't go fishing or swimming or golf or anything. And the cops are enforcing it everywhere with fines of up to $1,600...

All this for what??? A very mild virus that is highly contagious... We know that the elderly are the ones at risk so we should be protecting them while the rest of us get on with our lives and develop herd... But that's not what they want... They want us to believe that the vaccine is the only way back to normal. And even though their 1976 swine flu vaccine was toxic and even though they are racing and cutting corners they want to force these vaccines or blackmail us into taking them...

I don't know one person who has had covid but everyone I know has been hurt by these 6 month restrictions... And while the people who are well off wave their fist at everyone to stay home its the poor people who suffer, its the poor people who are being sacrificed...

One of the biggest issues is that the vaccine makers are not liable for any adverse side effects... As a result the testing and trials for vaccines are not as thorough as for drugs cos they don't have to worry about getting sued... This is insane. I don't know how vaccine advocates can possibly justify this scandalous situation. When i was a kid we had 2 vaccines i think, now n America a kid has 72 shots apparently, before the age of 16, and there are hundreds more in development... Meanwhile America has one of the highest child deaths in the western world with many new illnesses hitting more children more often...

The use of drugs as a medical intervention is always the last resort... I get sick, i see my doctor, he treats me...
But its much more profitable if everyone gets treated, with annual booster shots... Isn't it... That's why there is all this talk about the magical vaccine that is going to save the world from this horrific virus...