Sixth sense.

[Deliver]

Thanks, Deliver.

You're welcome, I hope you start a thread along those lines!

 

[passing_through]

You're welcome, I hope you start a thread along those lines!

Not enough data to write about.

Seems like that I have specific knowledge sometimes, it seems like a gift, but is it, I want to be careful.

 

[ServantStrike]

It was a short, dark figure of a man walking past the doorway, slowly enough that I could see him, and when I turned and looked at him, he turned and looked at me and his face was sheepish. It wasn't a demonic spirit apparition like one would imagine though of course it wasn't a "good" spirit. It didn't look like a standard evil thing, and I didn't feel scared, I was just shocked to see it.
I have my thoughts about what kind it was and the reason I happened to see it, because of what it coincided with at the time. I did ask God about it because it was so strange. But because there are still things happening with regards to it, I won't say.

You didn't tell this thing to leave in Jesus' name? That would have told you what you needed to know much more quickly. There's only good or bad - with the bad sometimes trying to act good.

Matthew 12
[SUP]30 [/SUP]He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

 

[Deliver]

You didn't tell this thing to leave in Jesus' name? That would have told you what you needed to know much more quickly. There's only good or bad - with the bad sometimes trying to act good.

Matthew 12
[SUP]30 [/SUP]He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

I have been asked why I didn't rebuke it at the time. I didn't have time to think, let alone say anything, I stared in shock then it was gone. I know there are only good or bad, I'm explaining that it didn't look like what you would think an evil thing would look like. And I always associated them with fear but I didn't feel fear though I obviously knew it wasn't "good". Besides, the sheepish expression was confusing.
But as for telling me what I needed to know by rebuking it... I knew it wasn't good and I knew God wouldn't let it stay where I was, but the reason I saw it is not so simple a reason. I believe God allowed me to see it as a warning about something happening behind the scenes and involving not just myself. That's why I don't wish to tell the exact details

Im not sure where that scripture you posted fits into this?

 

[Deliver]

Not enough data to write about.

Seems like that I have specific knowledge sometimes, it seems like a gift, but is it, I want to be careful.

Maybe you could ask people to explain their understanding of the difference between them all, or if they believe they're the same. It's good you're being careful I guess. Take it as God leads

 

[passing_through]

Maybe you could ask people to explain their understanding of the difference between them all, or if they believe they're the same. It's good you're being careful I guess. Take it as God leads

Thanks again, Billiard player.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Big red flag on the bold type above

The gifts that operate through the Holy Spirit are NOT passed down through blood lines

Saying God does not make mistakes, does not create legitimacy for a spirit operating through a family line

I don't know all your details...obviously you didn't post them...

I hope that is mature and civil enough for you

passed down thru family Lines? that is the work of familiar spirits or devils, they are familiar, and know about family lines.. indeed..... any kind of 'sixth sense' derived from this is NOT OF GOD.. works along the line of Psychics, indeed.. A Genuine Christian can be given the Gift of Discerning of Spirits, I have been given that Gift, but Its used in discerning that which is not of God, that poses as God or things of the spirit.. much of it is used in Being A Soldier for Christ, warfare..... this Gift comes from and thru His Anointing, which a Genuine Christian will receive upon conversion, I never originally had that Gift of Discernment, but I wanted to see and hear as Jesus saw /heard.. and I asked and He delivered!... but not in the groovy cool jesus trip or the lacodicean image that is put out there.. but in the Furnace of Affliction..

 

[passing_through]

My mother and Aunt had the gift, they said that I had the gift.
The Movie 'Ghost'

 

[Deliver]

passed down thru family Lines? that is the work of familiar spirits or devils, they are familiar, and know about family lines.. indeed..... any kind of 'sixth sense' derived from this is NOT OF GOD.. works along the line of Psychics, indeed.. A Genuine Christian can be given the Gift of Discerning of Spirits, I have been given that Gift, but Its used in discerning that which is not of God, that poses as God or things of the spirit.. much of it is used in Being A Soldier for Christ, warfare..... this Gift comes from and thru His Anointing, which a Genuine Christian will receive upon conversion, I never originally had that Gift of Discernment, but I wanted to see and hear as Jesus saw /heard.. and I asked and He delivered!... but not in the groovy cool jesus trip or the lacodicean image that is put out there.. but in the Furnace of Affliction..

What you say is true, you hit it on the head. To be quite honest, when the OP said it is "passed down", I didnt think of them meaning through the familiar spirits way but that they were saying different family members share similar gifts, which I know can be true. I understand what ember was saying about the discernment of spirits now. That point is in much more detail than what I was understanding, as people who are not Christians can have discernment but different to discernment of spirits.

 

[Deliver]

What you say is true, you hit it on the head. To be quite honest, when the OP said it is "passed down", I didnt think of them meaning through the familiar spirits way but that they were saying different family members share similar gifts, which I know can be true. I understand what ember was saying about the discernment of spirits now. That point is in much more detail than what I was understanding, as people who are not Christians can have discernment but different to discernment of spirits.

i KNOW he actually used those words passed down but I did not think of them in that way.

 

[ember]

I am always annoyed at Christians who think they know everything and put God in a box because they either haven't experienced something personally, or they haven't a revelation of what the Word says about it. It's close enough to blaspheming the Holy Spirit because you say something against something you have no idea about.

I didn't say you were counting every experience as demonic; I said you cannot. And "you" doesn't always mean you personally so please don't take it as such. What you DID say is that Christians should be able to tell the difference when I was mentioning something entirely different, and that is that Christians should know that there is a spiritual realm and warfare going on in dimensions we cannot see, and not to mock someone who experiences such.

As for the reason for being able to "sense" things, no one will know but God and maybe the person He is showing something to.
Are you actually saying that someone who can sense spirits has a demonic gift? Do you know that a lot of Christian ministers and prophets, and people with spiritual gifts can often sense things in that realm?
God does give gifts to whomever He will, and that means gifts of vision, prophecy, prayer, casting out demons, dreams... And most of the times, that also means one can sense and see things in a spiritual realm that others cannot. If you have never experienced it, you cannot speak of it. If you have experienced it, maybe you haven't been given the reason for it, but some have and do know.

I don't know what WOF is.

And btw, if you have a close relationship with God, I am fairly certain you know the difference between a false peace and a real one. If not, you simply take it to God, as I mentioned in my first post. Perhaps you are meaning to talk to people who are new Christians and don't know the Word to be able to check what is right or wrong?

When God wanted something to happen in Ahab's day, He sent a lying spirit. He sent an evil spirit to trouble Saul. Devils were hanging around and following Jesus.
Do you think these are the only examples where God would be working in the spiritual realm, even in this day? After all, God is Spirit...
What about the young man whose eyes were opened to see the chariots and horses?

I have seen people who have had demons cast out. I have seen people who have had their lives transformed, literally from the gutter. Spirits gone and lives changed. Addictions gone and not only that but a clean, new look in their eyes that cannot be faked. It amazes me that any Christian would not have a life which has spiritual things happening all the time in it.

I have had cases where people have come at me with a certain kind of spirit, and then God takes it from them and changes the whole situation.

I believe that sicknesses and diseases are spirits, and I have seen people delivered of them. I know some Christians don't agree about that but it doesn't bother me.

As as for sensing and seeing things, I have walked into houses and felt things, had things swoop at me that were not physical, have lived in houses that had disembodied voices and a feeling of fear and noises, seen many more things. It is not a demonic gift or sensitivity. It just simply is, and it proves the power and care of God to deliver a believer out of such situations, and to come in and change the atmosphere of a home to one of peace and sweetness. I know personally that God can cos He has done it for me. And that is all I can testify about.

oh not the god inna box thing again

God is not in a box here, but the mindset that believes people who use discernment regarding spiritual matters, have somehow confined God in some way, usually have wandered outside the parameters set by Him to begin with.

Now I'm close to blasphemy according to you....do you know how silly that sounds?

Are you actually saying that someone who can sense spirits has a demonic gift? Do you know that a lot of Christian ministers and prophets, and people with spiritual gifts can often sense things in that realm?

I really would just like to say 'what's the matter with you?' but let's take a closer look at this

You have not really read what I wrote or you would have seen that I have actually experienced more then I would have cared to regarding spiritual things which is why I am actually qualified to state that spiritual gifts are not passed down through family lines. Well that, and also the fact that the Bible says they are received through the Holy Spirit.

You've gone off on a rant here, because you either did not comprehend or you were hasty in reading my post.

Some people use experinece as their credentials...now I could easily do that...but I don't have to. I actually do not care what you have seen or experienced...I could spend quite some time writing my own experiences down, but in the end, it is only what the word has to say that a person should use as their guide for all things spiritual.

I did mention the slave girl that had a demon cast out of her...

16 As we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit of divination and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling. 17 She followed Paul and us, crying out, "These men are servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to you the way of salvation." 18 And this she kept doing for many days. Paul, having become greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her." And it came out that very hour. Acts 16: 16-18

Many Christians just accept any spiritual phenomena as being from the Holy Spirit. They forget that satan and his demons represent themselves as light to Christians and once the Christian has accepted the lie, a base camp is built and pretty soon a foundation and after that, an entire edifice from which we have any number of false ministries...false prophets...false teachers...false just about anything...and we have multitudes who have itchy ears and go to hirelings and liars to have their ears scratched.

So, frankly, I warn people about these things...and the op does not have a gift that is operating through the Holy Spirit because, and at the risk of boring people because of repetition, GOD is the one who dispenses the gifts BY HIS Spirit according to HIS will.....not yours...not mine...and not through Johnny's daddy or mommy.

Romans 12:3-8and 1 Corinthians chapter 12 make it clear that each Christian is given spiritual gifts according to the Lord’s choice. Spiritual gifts are given for the edification of the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:7,14:12). The exact timing of the giving of these gifts is not specifically mentioned. Most assume that spiritual gifts are given at the time of spiritual birth (the moment of salvation). However, there are some verses that may indicate God gives spiritual gifts later as well. Both1 Timothy 4:14and2 Timothy 1:6refer to a gift that Timothy had received at the time of his ordination “by prophecy.” This likely indicates that one of the elders at Timothy’s ordination spoke about a spiritual gift that Timothy would have to enable his future ministry.

We are also told in1 Corinthians 12:28-31and in1 Corinthians 14:12-13that it is God (not us) who chooses the gifts. These passages also indicate that not everyone will have a particular gift. Paul tells the Corinthian believers that if they are going to covet or long after spiritual gifts, they should strive after the more edifying gifts, such as prophesying (speaking forth the word of God for the building up of others).



Capeesh?

 

[ember]

Upon reflection, I'd like to address these two points I made. The first, I am not meaning you specifically, you mentioned you must have unsettled something, and I am explaining why I seem to get annoyed in my posts, more so when it seems that people are questioning other's experiences.
On the second point, I do agree that discernment is needed about whether something is of God or not. But I also believe if someone is a Christian, born again, then any experience they may have with the spiritual realm is in the hands of God, and for His will.
Anyway, I didn't mean to come across so harsh in my post, I have to watch that because I know I do, I can see it myself. Sorry.
God bless

OK...just read this now...but I stand by first post as I explained myself again...and you were hasty but I have done that too, so it's ok...you get a pass....

I hope I have made myself clear as to why I do not accept the op's 'gift' as godly...it is not

with regards to the bold type above, I have reservations...we may learn from our experiences, certainly, but I we all have 'free will' which results in many people making wrong choices etc etc

God is often on the job doing cleanup after we mess up....perhaps you mean that God is aware and I agree...anyway, suffice it to say that many things that happen are absolutely not the will of God and I am now meaning so called Christian spiritual experiences...not regarding you personally...I don't know you really

So thanks for taking the time to explain better.

 

[ember]

My mother and Aunt had the gift, they said that I had the gift.
The Movie 'Ghost'

Are you saying you sense dead people or are clairvoyant?

 

[Deliver]

OK...just read this now...but I stand by first post as I explained myself again...and you were hasty but I have done that too, so it's ok...you get a pass....

I hope I have made myself clear as to why I do not accept the op's 'gift' as godly...it is not

with regards to the bold type above, I have reservations...we may learn from our experiences, certainly, but I we all have 'free will' which results in many people making wrong choices etc etc

God is often on the job doing cleanup after we mess up....perhaps you mean that God is aware and I agree...anyway, suffice it to say that many things that happen are absolutely not the will of God and I am now meaning so called Christian spiritual experiences...not regarding you personally...I don't know you really

So thanks for taking the time to explain better.

It's late here so I won't read all your posts but yes, I did realise (I think) what you were meaning, and agree

 

[Deliver]

OK...just read this now...but I stand by first post as I explained myself again...and you were hasty but I have done that too, so it's ok...you get a pass....

I hope I have made myself clear as to why I do not accept the op's 'gift' as godly...it is not

with regards to the bold type above, I have reservations...we may learn from our experiences, certainly, but I we all have 'free will' which results in many people making wrong choices etc etc

God is often on the job doing cleanup after we mess up....perhaps you mean that God is aware and I agree...anyway, suffice it to say that many things that happen are absolutely not the will of God and I am now meaning so called Christian spiritual experiences...not regarding you personally...I don't know you really

So thanks for taking the time to explain better.

Agree about free will, but all things work together for good especially for born again Christians and the footsteps of the righteous are ordered by The Lord. My belief is including all things, spiritual experiences too. I guess we differ on that but it's ok to disagree! God bless

 

[VioletReigns]

I decided to wait a few days to give people a chance to post. The common questions first: The ability I know I have is that I am sensitive to spiritual energy. Though I can't visually see them, I can feel that they are there.

I honestly thought you were trolling so I browsed your previous comments on the other threads and I believe you are sincere. As for my opinion about a "sixth sense" or however one puts it, Jesus said there's a test you can do for yourself.

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist.

So you alone, with the mind of Christ Jesus can rightly judge this. None of our opinions matter. When this thing occurs, this "sense" of spirits, you must at that time determine if Jesus Christ is glorified in it or if something else is being recognized.

Brother Jak, I suggest you not put too much stock in senses, especially when it's not clear to you what God's purpose would be in it. We often tend to put our faith in our feelings, our senses, our past experiences, prejudices & superstitions we've learned from our families, etc., when God is operating in a reality realm that most times we don't recognize. God reigns in a realm that is much higher than our minds can perceive. It's better just to keep our eyes on Christ Jesus and rest in His love.

 

[passing_through]

Are you saying you sense dead people or are clairvoyant?

No dear member it was a joke. Did you see the movie Ghost, if you did then you might understand.

 

[ember]

No dear member it was a joke. Did you see the movie Ghost, if you did then you might understand.

ah ok...no I didn't see that movie which is why I guess I didn't get the joke...

Thanks!

 

[ember]

Agree about free will, but all things work together for good especially for born again Christians and the footsteps of the righteous are ordered by The Lord. My belief is including all things, spiritual experiences too. I guess we differ on that but it's ok to disagree! God bless

Not so much...I agree that God can work out things for good...like Joseph...and even calamity can be His will

Thanks again!

 

[Deliver]

oh not the god inna box thing again

God is not in a box here, but the mindset that believes people who use discernment regarding spiritual matters, have somehow confined God in some way, usually have wandered outside the parameters set by Him to begin with.

Now I'm close to blasphemy according to you....do you know how silly that sounds?



I really would just like to say 'what's the matter with you?' but let's take a closer look at this

You have not really read what I wrote or you would have seen that I have actually experienced more then I would have cared to regarding spiritual things which is why I am actually qualified to state that spiritual gifts are not passed down through family lines. Well that, and also the fact that the Bible says they are received through the Holy Spirit.

You've gone off on a rant here, because you either did not comprehend or you were hasty in reading my post.

Some people use experinece as their credentials...now I could easily do that...but I don't have to. I actually do not care what you have seen or experienced...I could spend quite some time writing my own experiences down, but in the end, it is only what the word has to say that a person should use as their guide for all things spiritual.

I did mention the slave girl that had a demon cast out of her...

16 As we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit of divination and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling. 17 She followed Paul and us, crying out, "These men are servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to you the way of salvation." 18 And this she kept doing for many days. Paul, having become greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her." And it came out that very hour. Acts 16: 16-18

Many Christians just accept any spiritual phenomena as being from the Holy Spirit. They forget that satan and his demons represent themselves as light to Christians and once the Christian has accepted the lie, a base camp is built and pretty soon a foundation and after that, an entire edifice from which we have any number of false ministries...false prophets...false teachers...false just about anything...and we have multitudes who have itchy ears and go to hirelings and liars to have their ears scratched.

So, frankly, I warn people about these things...and the op does not have a gift that is operating through the Holy Spirit because, and at the risk of boring people because of repetition, GOD is the one who dispenses the gifts BY HIS Spirit according to HIS will.....not yours...not mine...and not through Johnny's daddy or mommy.

Romans 12:3-8and 1 Corinthians chapter 12 make it clear that each Christian is given spiritual gifts according to the Lord’s choice. Spiritual gifts are given for the edification of the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:7,14:12). The exact timing of the giving of these gifts is not specifically mentioned. Most assume that spiritual gifts are given at the time of spiritual birth (the moment of salvation). However, there are some verses that may indicate God gives spiritual gifts later as well. Both1 Timothy 4:14and2 Timothy 1:6refer to a gift that Timothy had received at the time of his ordination “by prophecy.” This likely indicates that one of the elders at Timothy’s ordination spoke about a spiritual gift that Timothy would have to enable his future ministry.

We are also told in1 Corinthians 12:28-31and in1 Corinthians 14:12-13that it is God (not us) who chooses the gifts. These passages also indicate that not everyone will have a particular gift. Paul tells the Corinthian believers that if they are going to covet or long after spiritual gifts, they should strive after the more edifying gifts, such as prophesying (speaking forth the word of God for the building up of others).



Capeesh?

Ok, finally read through this.
The box comment is about saying something cannot be of God when one has not understood the Word, much like the blasphemy comment is about discounting one's experience as being not of God (or part of His will; they are much the same to me as all things are for experience in a Christian's walk) but already explained that.

I like what Violetreigns said in her post as I agree, only each individual will know for certain whether it be of God, if it is a personal experience - not everything is and needs to be revealed to others. And of course, each individual needs wisdom and discernment to tell the difference for their own experiences and to take it to God to check and/or ask for a reason.
The Holy Spirit's gifts fall on the just and the unjust IMO and that is why certain gifts can be shared by people of the same family.
About the experiences I mentioned, they were not for any other reason but to give examples of various things that can happen in the spiritual realm, both good and bad. As mentioned before, I believe all, both good and bad spiritual experiences are part of His will, either permissive or divine, and that all have a reason. I also believe God shows us that reason if we ask.

I agree that not all spiritual phenomena is from the Holy Spirit but that the 'sensitivity' or gift that Christians have IS, and that at times God allows us to see / witness / sense things, spiritual phenomena or spirits that are not of God, for a reason.