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Maitreya,
Your profile says you are NOT a Christian.
That alone precludes you from having any ability to offer Christian or Biblical Counseling.
If you don't take Christ seriously enough to be a follower,
then you have no right, or even ability, to tell others what God expects of His followers.
It's just absurd for an admitted non-Christian to be here PRETENDING to give Christian counseling to someone...
you can't even give Christian counseling to yourself.
I'm not trying to be mean, but somebody needs to point out some simple common sense around here.
Your profile says you are NOT a Christian.
That alone precludes you from having any ability to offer Christian or Biblical Counseling.
If you don't take Christ seriously enough to be a follower,
then you have no right, or even ability, to tell others what God expects of His followers.
It's just absurd for an admitted non-Christian to be here PRETENDING to give Christian counseling to someone...
you can't even give Christian counseling to yourself.
I'm not trying to be mean, but somebody needs to point out some simple common sense around here.
Maxwell, is the name 'Christian' a pre-requisite to reading, knowing, understanding or believing Jesus' words? Did Jesus say 'if you do not call yourself christian, you are going to hell?' or 'if you don't label yourself, you don't have the right to speak about anything under that label?
I am not a psychologist, but I've studied psychology. The same way, I don't call myself an author, but I write fictional stories and am quite good at it.
Let's also say, for instance, that back in Jesus' day, the title of 'Pharisee' meant you were the most learned and wise of the Jewish order, does that mean that nobody who isn't a pharisee can have any real wisdom or understanding of God?
No, I'm not Christian. I'm nothing. I'm down there with the sinners and everybody else that isn't worthy for anything. I'm just a bog standard human. I don't want a title. A title is a box, with all the things that the box has labeled on it.
I am not a psychologist, but I've studied psychology. The same way, I don't call myself an author, but I write fictional stories and am quite good at it.
Let's also say, for instance, that back in Jesus' day, the title of 'Pharisee' meant you were the most learned and wise of the Jewish order, does that mean that nobody who isn't a pharisee can have any real wisdom or understanding of God?
No, I'm not Christian. I'm nothing. I'm down there with the sinners and everybody else that isn't worthy for anything. I'm just a bog standard human. I don't want a title. A title is a box, with all the things that the box has labeled on it.
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Maitreya,
Lets start with your name.
You think we're all ignorant of what your name means?
You think we aren't aware it's the New Age false Messiah?
We know what you're here preaching... and it isn't the bible.
You're promoting the New Age false messiah through your very name,
and your profile makes it clear you aren't a Christian.
In the bible, a false messiah is said to be in the spirit of antichrist...
that is what you're here preaching.
Nice.
Lets start with your name.
You think we're all ignorant of what your name means?
You think we aren't aware it's the New Age false Messiah?
We know what you're here preaching... and it isn't the bible.
You're promoting the New Age false messiah through your very name,
and your profile makes it clear you aren't a Christian.
In the bible, a false messiah is said to be in the spirit of antichrist...
that is what you're here preaching.
Nice.
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If you are saved and believe God's word, there is no way you cannot get around the fact that throughout the bible - God's word tells us that homosexuality is an abomination to God - He abhors it. So, if you believe, then you cannot allow yourself to enter into a homosexual relationship no matter what you think you feel. To say that it is natural or 'ok' is the lie in your head from Satan. "Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you." James 4.
There is an old saying: "Avoid the near occasion of sin." Avoid allowing yourself to enter into that kind of relationship.
If you are saved, by your spirit and trusting in the Lord you can overcome. READ THE BIBLE! IT IS GOOD FOR SPIRITUAL FOOD (understanding).
There is an old saying: "Avoid the near occasion of sin." Avoid allowing yourself to enter into that kind of relationship.
If you are saved, by your spirit and trusting in the Lord you can overcome. READ THE BIBLE! IT IS GOOD FOR SPIRITUAL FOOD (understanding).
That's a lot of accusations.
Firstly, my name means kindness. Friend.
Secondly, no, I'm not a christian. For reasons I've told you. Just like if I were a morally intelligent German Nationalist Socialist I'd probably avoid calling myself a Nazi for the connotations it holds.
And thirdly, what?
Look at my character rather than making conclusive jumps that ignore what I'm saying to the OP and anyone else. It's very much attacking for the sake of attacking. Do you fear what you don't understand?
I can empathize with why you're so offended and angry but is it really merited or constructive?
Firstly, my name means kindness. Friend.
Secondly, no, I'm not a christian. For reasons I've told you. Just like if I were a morally intelligent German Nationalist Socialist I'd probably avoid calling myself a Nazi for the connotations it holds.
And thirdly, what?
Look at my character rather than making conclusive jumps that ignore what I'm saying to the OP and anyone else. It's very much attacking for the sake of attacking. Do you fear what you don't understand?
I can empathize with why you're so offended and angry but is it really merited or constructive?
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If you are saved and believe God's word, there is no way you cannot get around the fact that throughout the bible - God's word tells us that homosexuality is an abomination to God - He abhors it. So, if you believe, then you cannot allow yourself to enter into a homosexual relationship no matter what you think you feel. To say that it is natural or 'ok' is the lie in your head from Satan. "Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you." James 4.
There is an old saying: "Avoid the near occasion of sin." Avoid allowing yourself to enter into that kind of relationship.
If you are saved, by your spirit and trusting in the Lord you can overcome. READ THE BIBLE! IT IS GOOD FOR SPIRITUAL FOOD (understanding).
There is an old saying: "Avoid the near occasion of sin." Avoid allowing yourself to enter into that kind of relationship.
If you are saved, by your spirit and trusting in the Lord you can overcome. READ THE BIBLE! IT IS GOOD FOR SPIRITUAL FOOD (understanding).
It's fine. I never realized, tripsin, my apologies. I'm off this thread anyway, I don't like the combative vibe that's come by these accusations of my own alleged animosity towards Jesus. They seem insignificant when the thread poster is in misery, aside from the fact that they are wrong. It's tactless and inappropriate.
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Choosing a New Age name of the False Messiah from Buddhism,
and then PRETENDING like you don't know what it means...
that's what we call lying.
Encyclopedia Britannica:
Maitreya, in Buddhist tradition, the future Buddha, presently a bodhisattva residing in the Tushita heaven, who will descend to earth to preach anew the dharma (“law”) when the teachings of Gautama Buddha have completely decayed. Maitreya is the earliest bodhisattva around whom a cult developed and is mentioned in scriptures from the 3rd century ce. He was accepted by all schools of Buddhism and is still the only bodhisattva generally honoured by the Theravada tradition.
Oxford Dictionary:
Maitreya Syllabification: (Mai·tre·ya)
Pronunciation: /mīˈtrāə/
Buddhism
the Buddha who will appear in the future.
buddhanet.net - Dictionary of Buddhist Terms:
Maitreya
A Bodhisattva now abiding in a heaven realm who in the distant future is due to become the Buddha of the next era. Meaning "The Loving One" or "The Friendly One", Maitreya is first mentioned in the Digha Nikaya of the Pali Tipitaka making him the earliest bodhisattva and the only one mentioned in the text of both the Theravada and the Mahayana traditions. Maitreya is believed to often appear on earth to help people and particularly to teach the Dhamma.
In ancient times during periods of political and social crisis worship of Maitreya would become very fervent and often give rise to millenniumist movements. Like Avalokitesvara, Maitreya is usually depicted as a young prince only he has a stupa in his crown and is sitting on a throne in a 'Western' posture.
See the Maitreya Project Website for a project which is building a large statue of the future Buddha Maitreya in Bodh Gaya, India.
Wikipedia:
The Maitreya or Lord Maitreya is described in Theosophical literature of the late 19th-century and subsequent periods as an advanced spiritual entity and high-ranking member of a hidden Spiritual Hierarchy, the so-called Masters of the Ancient Wisdom. According to Theosophical doctrine, one of the Hierarchy's functions is to oversee the evolution of humankind; in accord with this function the Maitreya is said to hold the so-called Office of the World Teacher. Theosophical texts posit that the purpose of this Office is to facilitate the transfer of knowledge about the true constitution and workings of Existence to humankind. Humanity is thereby assisted on its presumed cyclical, but ever progressive, evolutionary path. Reputedly, one way the knowledge transfer is accomplished is by Maitreya occasionally manifesting or incarnating in the physical realm; the manifested entity then assumes the role of World Teacher of Humankind.
The Theosophical concept of Maitreya has many similarities to the earlier Maitreya doctrine in Buddhism. However, they differ in important aspects, and developed differently. The Theosophical Maitreya has been assimilated or appropriated by a variety of quasi-theosophical and non-theosophical New Age and Esoteric groups and movements. These have added, and advanced, their own interpretations and commentary on the subject.
Maitreya’s incarnations
In Theosophical texts, the Maitreya is said to have had numerous manifestations or incarnations: in the theorized ancient continent of Atlantis; as a Hierophant in Ancient Egypt;[SUP][22][/SUP] as the Hindu deity Krishna;[SUP][23][/SUP] as a high priest in Ancient India;[SUP][24][/SUP] and as Christ during the three years of the Ministry of Jesus.[SUP][23][/SUP]
Later concepts of Maitreya
Following the Krishnamurti debacle, major Theosophical organizations and writers became increasingly muted, at least publicly, on the subject of the reappearance of Maitreya and on the possible next "impulse" from the Spiritual Hierarchy.[SUP][36][/SUP] However the concepts of World Teacher, of a hidden Spiritual Hierarchy, and of Masters of Occult Wisdom as described in Theosophical literature, continued to have vocal supporters. These were found among Theosophical Society members and increasingly, among near-theosophical and non-theosophical New Age adherents.[SUP][38][/SUP]
and then PRETENDING like you don't know what it means...
that's what we call lying.
Encyclopedia Britannica:
Maitreya, in Buddhist tradition, the future Buddha, presently a bodhisattva residing in the Tushita heaven, who will descend to earth to preach anew the dharma (“law”) when the teachings of Gautama Buddha have completely decayed. Maitreya is the earliest bodhisattva around whom a cult developed and is mentioned in scriptures from the 3rd century ce. He was accepted by all schools of Buddhism and is still the only bodhisattva generally honoured by the Theravada tradition.
Oxford Dictionary:
Maitreya Syllabification: (Mai·tre·ya)
Pronunciation: /mīˈtrāə/
Buddhism
the Buddha who will appear in the future.
buddhanet.net - Dictionary of Buddhist Terms:
Maitreya
A Bodhisattva now abiding in a heaven realm who in the distant future is due to become the Buddha of the next era. Meaning "The Loving One" or "The Friendly One", Maitreya is first mentioned in the Digha Nikaya of the Pali Tipitaka making him the earliest bodhisattva and the only one mentioned in the text of both the Theravada and the Mahayana traditions. Maitreya is believed to often appear on earth to help people and particularly to teach the Dhamma.
In ancient times during periods of political and social crisis worship of Maitreya would become very fervent and often give rise to millenniumist movements. Like Avalokitesvara, Maitreya is usually depicted as a young prince only he has a stupa in his crown and is sitting on a throne in a 'Western' posture.
See the Maitreya Project Website for a project which is building a large statue of the future Buddha Maitreya in Bodh Gaya, India.
Wikipedia:
The Maitreya or Lord Maitreya is described in Theosophical literature of the late 19th-century and subsequent periods as an advanced spiritual entity and high-ranking member of a hidden Spiritual Hierarchy, the so-called Masters of the Ancient Wisdom. According to Theosophical doctrine, one of the Hierarchy's functions is to oversee the evolution of humankind; in accord with this function the Maitreya is said to hold the so-called Office of the World Teacher. Theosophical texts posit that the purpose of this Office is to facilitate the transfer of knowledge about the true constitution and workings of Existence to humankind. Humanity is thereby assisted on its presumed cyclical, but ever progressive, evolutionary path. Reputedly, one way the knowledge transfer is accomplished is by Maitreya occasionally manifesting or incarnating in the physical realm; the manifested entity then assumes the role of World Teacher of Humankind.
The Theosophical concept of Maitreya has many similarities to the earlier Maitreya doctrine in Buddhism. However, they differ in important aspects, and developed differently. The Theosophical Maitreya has been assimilated or appropriated by a variety of quasi-theosophical and non-theosophical New Age and Esoteric groups and movements. These have added, and advanced, their own interpretations and commentary on the subject.
Maitreya’s incarnations
In Theosophical texts, the Maitreya is said to have had numerous manifestations or incarnations: in the theorized ancient continent of Atlantis; as a Hierophant in Ancient Egypt;[SUP][22][/SUP] as the Hindu deity Krishna;[SUP][23][/SUP] as a high priest in Ancient India;[SUP][24][/SUP] and as Christ during the three years of the Ministry of Jesus.[SUP][23][/SUP]
Later concepts of Maitreya
Following the Krishnamurti debacle, major Theosophical organizations and writers became increasingly muted, at least publicly, on the subject of the reappearance of Maitreya and on the possible next "impulse" from the Spiritual Hierarchy.[SUP][36][/SUP] However the concepts of World Teacher, of a hidden Spiritual Hierarchy, and of Masters of Occult Wisdom as described in Theosophical literature, continued to have vocal supporters. These were found among Theosophical Society members and increasingly, among near-theosophical and non-theosophical New Age adherents.[SUP][38][/SUP]
Maxwell, of course I know of the stories of Maitreyya. It's common knowledge. But it means little. The stories are not of a messiah. They are of a person who comes when the world has lost kindness, and begins to teach it. That's no messiah. That's a man who knows kindness. It is a tale.
It is also a pali word that means 'loving kindness', derived from the sanskrit for 'friend'.
And I liked it. Is that a problem? If it is, it is very much your problem.
It is also a pali word that means 'loving kindness', derived from the sanskrit for 'friend'.
And I liked it. Is that a problem? If it is, it is very much your problem.
Johnny, bless you for ministering to your friend. God will honor your compassion for him. True, God is all-loving and all-forgiving but we have to ask for that forgiveness and try our best to follow His mandates. Jesus said that if we love Him, we will obey Him...meaning that we trust Him to know what is best for us.
The Bible does say homosexuality is wrong....
Revelation 21:6-8
[SUP]6 [/SUP]He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. [SUP]8 [/SUP]But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
(also other parts of the bible talk about homosexuality...esp. Paul)
Notice that John includes liars, idolaters, etc in this list. Wow, that seems pretty harsh. But it does make us hesitate to start ranking sins....apparently ALL sin is bad! Although we can never be perfect on this side of heaven, there is definitely intentions of the heart that God plainly judges. If we continue in deliberate and blatant sin, it says something about our heart condition.
Jesus does say that we need to take care of the plank in our own eyes before complaining about someone else's speck...this should make us willing to examine ourselves for our own sins and give us compassion for others.
I encourage you to open God's Word and read for yourself about His loving and compassionate nature. He gives us boundaries for our own protection...not to keep us from something good (Satan whispered this to Eve and we continue to listen to him). Our culture (or 'the world') makes empty promises, but God's promises are truly life-giving.
Taking care of your friend is compassionate....but it should be based in friendship and not in a sexual relationship. This probably sounds judgmental to you but it is God's will for all of us....again, please read His love letter to us.
Praying for you...guidance and discernment from the Holy Spirit and strength for stamina as you minister to your friend.
The Bible does say homosexuality is wrong....
Revelation 21:6-8
[SUP]6 [/SUP]He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. [SUP]8 [/SUP]But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
(also other parts of the bible talk about homosexuality...esp. Paul)
Notice that John includes liars, idolaters, etc in this list. Wow, that seems pretty harsh. But it does make us hesitate to start ranking sins....apparently ALL sin is bad! Although we can never be perfect on this side of heaven, there is definitely intentions of the heart that God plainly judges. If we continue in deliberate and blatant sin, it says something about our heart condition.
Jesus does say that we need to take care of the plank in our own eyes before complaining about someone else's speck...this should make us willing to examine ourselves for our own sins and give us compassion for others.
I encourage you to open God's Word and read for yourself about His loving and compassionate nature. He gives us boundaries for our own protection...not to keep us from something good (Satan whispered this to Eve and we continue to listen to him). Our culture (or 'the world') makes empty promises, but God's promises are truly life-giving.
Taking care of your friend is compassionate....but it should be based in friendship and not in a sexual relationship. This probably sounds judgmental to you but it is God's will for all of us....again, please read His love letter to us.
Praying for you...guidance and discernment from the Holy Spirit and strength for stamina as you minister to your friend
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Max, I noticed his name immediately in the Bible forum. He has been preaching his own gospel all over CC. Nothing he says is Biblical, although he does use scriptures out of context.
Thanks for calling him on it. I should have done it this afternoon.
As for the OP - I want you to know God loves you. But he hates sin. So you have to decide whether your lifestyle is more important or God. I was an alcoholic when I got saved. I have never had a drink in 33 years since I was saved. I know you will object and say that you were born this way, it's a gene or whatever, but the fact is, it is not! Recent research of identical twins show that there is no correlation between genetics and homosexuality.
But I think there might be a correlation between child sexual abuse and homosexuality. I do not know if that is your story, but it would mean that God understands the hurt you might have gone through. Besides God always forgives, if we ask him and repent.
As for taking care of your friend, that is a wonderful thing to do. If you are not engaged in the act of homosexuality with him, (which it sounds like!) then I would not worry about what people have to say. Get right with God, and continue to help this person. God does say to take care of the sick, the widows and orphans.
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. [SUP]32 [/SUP]All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. [SUP]33 [/SUP]He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.[SUP]34 [/SUP]“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. [SUP]35 [/SUP]For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, [SUP]36 [/SUP]I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
[SUP]37 [/SUP]“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? [SUP]38 [/SUP]When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? [SUP]39 [/SUP]When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
[SUP]40 [/SUP]“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
[SUP]41 [/SUP]“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. [SUP]42 [/SUP]For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, [SUP]43 [/SUP]I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
[SUP]44 [/SUP]“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
[SUP]45 [/SUP]“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
[SUP]46 [/SUP]“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” Matt 25:31-46
I think a lot of people have missed this in their Bibles! I volunteer as a chaplain in long term care, and it has been extremely rewarding for me to be able to help those who are sick and hurting. I am blessed and I know you will be!
But please understand, I am not saying you can go your own way and do what you want. You still have to obey Jesus and that means believing what he says is true!
Thanks for calling him on it. I should have done it this afternoon.
As for the OP - I want you to know God loves you. But he hates sin. So you have to decide whether your lifestyle is more important or God. I was an alcoholic when I got saved. I have never had a drink in 33 years since I was saved. I know you will object and say that you were born this way, it's a gene or whatever, but the fact is, it is not! Recent research of identical twins show that there is no correlation between genetics and homosexuality.
But I think there might be a correlation between child sexual abuse and homosexuality. I do not know if that is your story, but it would mean that God understands the hurt you might have gone through. Besides God always forgives, if we ask him and repent.
As for taking care of your friend, that is a wonderful thing to do. If you are not engaged in the act of homosexuality with him, (which it sounds like!) then I would not worry about what people have to say. Get right with God, and continue to help this person. God does say to take care of the sick, the widows and orphans.
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. [SUP]32 [/SUP]All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. [SUP]33 [/SUP]He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.[SUP]34 [/SUP]“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. [SUP]35 [/SUP]For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, [SUP]36 [/SUP]I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
[SUP]37 [/SUP]“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? [SUP]38 [/SUP]When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? [SUP]39 [/SUP]When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
[SUP]40 [/SUP]“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
[SUP]41 [/SUP]“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. [SUP]42 [/SUP]For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, [SUP]43 [/SUP]I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
[SUP]44 [/SUP]“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
[SUP]45 [/SUP]“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
[SUP]46 [/SUP]“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” Matt 25:31-46
I think a lot of people have missed this in their Bibles! I volunteer as a chaplain in long term care, and it has been extremely rewarding for me to be able to help those who are sick and hurting. I am blessed and I know you will be!
But please understand, I am not saying you can go your own way and do what you want. You still have to obey Jesus and that means believing what he says is true!
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Every human being deserves the wrath of God. Period! We are all sinners and God doesn't discriminate between lying and murder. They are the same in His eyes. Man does discriminate, though, but my church doesn't judge people, we offer them the same grace and mercy that He has offered us. We don't judge anyone, that is God's job. By the way, we have liers and murders ex drug-runners, sex addicts, alcoholics (recovering, and not) food addicts, and, really, homosexuals, just seem kind of a nice, boring lot at my church. The one thing we all have in common is that we love Jesus and we submit our sins to him together. We ALL sin! And to judge another's sin goes against God! I and my whole congregation welcome you and yours to my church. We are a loving church! Bring your kids if you have them! If you are in the northwest arkansas area I can send you directions by message. Love you!