Three types of People

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Jordache

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As a teen, I found myself struggling to understand what a Christian was. I was raised in the church and I knew that it didn't make me a Christian anymore than hanging out in a chicken coop makes me a chicken. However, my whole family was convinced they were Christians when all they did was spout defensively, "hey I go to church." When there religion was questioned. Otherwise there were no outward signs of an inward dwelling God. I never saw them pray. I never saw a bible at their homes. They drank excessively, did drugs, were gossips, abusive, etc.
When I finally found Jesus amongst religion, I was 14 yrs old. I became a quick Jesus freak and my family either tried to prove they were just like me because they were convinced they were Christians, or nothing like me because they were convinced I was crazy. It was very difficult to figure out who was true. My own mother who at one time was devout by outward standards, left the church and slowly abandoned all of her morals. I knew she had a real life spiritual experience at one point, but all revelation seemed to have left her at some point. She walked right back into her bitterness.
The polls always hold up some ridiculous percentage of people claim to be Chrisitians in the US. At one time it was around 95%. Currently it's around 80%. Still, it's sad to me. I wonder how many of that 80% are people like thise in my family who profess Jesus because its part of their culture. Jesus isn't just the thing to do. He's not the latest fad and how dare we treat him as such. I love my family and I pray one day they will find Jesus and not religion. But for now I wonder how many people of that 80% have truly experience Jesus and chose to follow him. I don't mean legalistically, but choose to get back up and keep going when they get knocked down. None of us will be close to perfect, but there is a difference between one who wears Jesus like a badge when thy want to hang around the club, and one who truly aims to please Him. My pastor made a good point this last Sunday: there are onły 3 types of people...period... Those that aren't converted. Those that are converted. And those that think they're converted. Sadly, I think too many in that 80% are in the latter. They have given their lives over to The Lord to be changed. Instead, they have latched onto a cultural identity which will only leave them deceived.
These 3 groups are everywhere. They are on the streets, in the church, and in our jobs. Hiw many times have we been in a conversation with someone who mentions they go to church and our first thought it "phew... They're in. Let me find someone who really needs Jesus." How do we know if they are the one who thinks they're converted rather than the one who truly is being changed by Jesus?
 
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BananaPie

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#2
I believe there are only two types of humans:

a) those who agree with God and follow Jesus :D
b) those who don't agree with God and follow what's on TV.

 
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s4t

Guest
#3
Im happy 2 hear ur stickin 2 ur faith. i also dont have a gud relationship with my parents regardin my faith. i kno its hard but lets pray 4 them daily. lets walk on the strait n narrow its the road that leads home!
 
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Jordache

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#4
Oh well, I wish it were only my parents. My father is dead. My mother is VERY broken but has come back to The Lord. However, I have a very large family who thinks they know Jesus but I don't believe even a slight majority of them do. I wonder sometimes where I came from. People don't believe me when I tell them bout my family because I am so different than they are. My pastors know about my family though theyve had limited contact with them. One pastor called them trailor trash... not as an insult, just a descriptor. And he was talking to me. My family is a Jeff Foxworthy special. My family could do the Jerry Springer Show and need no coaching. I love them, but the drama is unbearable. When I visit them I have nothing in common with them. Once my mom smacked my two cousins because they were making fun of me. I had just gotten married and they were snickering behind a wall. "Who does she think she is? That's not the ......... way. What does she thjnks she's doing getting married before she gets pregnant?"
I do stick to my faith, and through the years they have had less and less of an influence on me. Now when I visit I've learned that I cannot stay with family. I have to stay with a church friend because I need a place to decompress or escape. I also know my limits with some people. In good circumstances, I can't only be with my mom for 3 days before I want to pull my hair out.
 

Blain

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Aug 28, 2012
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As a teen, I found myself struggling to understand what a Christian was. I was raised in the church and I knew that it didn't make me a Christian anymore than hanging out in a chicken coop makes me a chicken. However, my whole family was convinced they were Christians when all they did was spout defensively, "hey I go to church." When there religion was questioned. Otherwise there were no outward signs of an inward dwelling God. I never saw them pray. I never saw a bible at their homes. They drank excessively, did drugs, were gossips, abusive, etc.
When I finally found Jesus amongst religion, I was 14 yrs old. I became a quick Jesus freak and my family either tried to prove they were just like me because they were convinced they were Christians, or nothing like me because they were convinced I was crazy. It was very difficult to figure out who was true. My own mother who at one time was devout by outward standards, left the church and slowly abandoned all of her morals. I knew she had a real life spiritual experience at one point, but all revelation seemed to have left her at some point. She walked right back into her bitterness.
The polls always hold up some ridiculous percentage of people claim to be Chrisitians in the US. At one time it was around 95%. Currently it's around 80%. Still, it's sad to me. I wonder how many of that 80% are people like thise in my family who profess Jesus because its part of their culture. Jesus isn't just the thing to do. He's not the latest fad and how dare we treat him as such. I love my family and I pray one day they will find Jesus and not religion. But for now I wonder how many people of that 80% have truly experience Jesus and chose to follow him. I don't mean legalistically, but choose to get back up and keep going when they get knocked down. None of us will be close to perfect, but there is a difference between one who wears Jesus like a badge when thy want to hang around the club, and one who truly aims to please Him. My pastor made a good point this last Sunday: there are onły 3 types of people...period... Those that aren't converted. Those that are converted. And those that think they're converted. Sadly, I think too many in that 80% are in the latter. They have given their lives over to The Lord to be changed. Instead, they have latched onto a cultural identity which will only leave them deceived.
These 3 groups are everywhere. They are on the streets, in the church, and in our jobs. Hiw many times have we been in a conversation with someone who mentions they go to church and our first thought it "phew... They're in. Let me find someone who really needs Jesus." How do we know if they are the one who thinks they're converted rather than the one who truly is being changed by Jesus?
Sadly i know your pain, my entire family will say they are christians but they dont as you say walk the talk. My aunt has it in her mind she is a good person and a christian and yet all she does is lie, gossip, mooch off of people and she isn't afraid to steal what she wants from you even if it's your gold ring. I seem to be the only one in my family who is in love with Jesus. It's sad how many people can say i love jesus but dont. Honestly SAYING i love jesus means nothing to me i let my heart do the talking.
 

gb9

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Jan 18, 2011
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yeah, i am kind of there with you guys. my mom is great, but much of my extended family are judgemental and self- centerd" christians".
 

Lucy68

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Jan 21, 2011
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Unfortunately, the gate is narrow. I want a wide gate :).

I think it was to the disciple's credit when in the inner room for the 'last supper' they each (except Judas) asked Jesus 'is it I?' who is going to betray you? They recognized that people can deceive themselves.

We're all works-in-progress; I think that's why Jesus said 'don't judge'. It is very discouraging, though, to see people who gladly wear the Christian label, blatantly sin.

I've noticed over the past two years that criminals and murderers in movies wear huge crosses. What is with this? Everyone is wearing crosses lately. But most do not profess Christian beliefs. A clever way to reduce the power of a religious symbol...put it on a murderer on TV, movies, etc.
 
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chuinchoy

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#8
I am really touched by what you have said. i personally agree with you regarding the 3 type of christians. Well, let prayed that God will do His work on those who think they are converted. keep it up sister, you are the light to your family. i will uphold you in my prayers. SHALOM.
 
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intercessorginger

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This is precisely what the bible means when Jesus says to some" I never knew you". It's quite scary to think about but God wants us to pray for them and live out our own faith with power. No matter what anyone else is doing..stay with Jesus!
 
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chuinchoy

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#10
There is nothing to fear if we have live our lives guided by God ie whatever we do, we ask ourselves, what did God said about it and follow them, nothing will go wrong. Of course, this is my personal opinion only.