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Roughsoul1991

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And what does any of this have to do with another American getting shot last week...
The narrative that the media is trying to push makes things look one sided. As to why we are looking at the data. Is it one sided as they say.
 

Solemateleft

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And what does any of this have to do with another American getting shot last week...
This is data in response to @Roughsoul1991 request for data, with the hope that this data serves to further validate his underlying hypothesis... Facts vs Media vs Opinion, while George Floyd's death is attributed to police brutality (not necessarily a shooting) this chart would seemingly substantiate that his death, while a solid case of wrong-doing, poor training, ignorance and lack of humanity not compassion, it is merely another data point on the chart... Where the chart does not validate the media narative and opinions that systemic racism is the underlying problem. Where race issues according to numerous professional equal rights activists, is being used as a rues and is not a justifiable basis for the violent rioting and illegal looting that has hijacked their cause...
 
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Don't get me wrong. I believe that there is a extremely low % of bigoted cop's. Like for instance in my
the police dept. is worthless. They don't arrest anyone. There is no money in it. And I AM talking from personal experience. In larger, more educated cities, I think that police are decent and respectful and more importantly. Do their Job!
 
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This is data in response to @Roughsoul1991 request for data, with the hope that this data serves to further validate his underlying hypothesis... Facts vs Media vs Opinion, while George Floyd's death is attributed to police brutality (not necessarily a shooting) this chart would seemingly substantiate that his death, while a solid case of wrong-doing, poor training, ignorance and lack of humanity not compassion, it is merely another data point on the chart... Where the chart does not validate the media narative and opinions that systemic racism is the underlying problem. Where race issues according to numerous professional equal rights activists, is being used as a rues and is not a justifiable basis for the violent rioting and illegal looting that has hijacked their cause...
I think these people are protesting. For police officer's to stop killing citizen's of these United states...
 
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No human is perfect that is why we are perfectly human .. and All people mess up even cops . That is why as Believers in Jesus Christ we are supposed to conduct ourselves as Jesus showed up to do . . The Devil in the flesh will use any excuse to to justify doing wrong.. and maybe if some of us Christians would stop helping the devil turning our backs and allow it to happen.
 

Solemateleft

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I think these people are protesting. For police officer's to stop killing citizen's of these United states...
The peaceful protesters are certainly, unfortunately the rioters have their own agenda... Antifa is an anarchist organization that is being funded much like a terrorist organization with a much bigger agenda (posted on their social media forums and within their manual). They are employing Gaurilla Warfare tactics and information warfare to recruit our youth. Their agenda is more about class inequality than race inequality. They do not have a spokesperson as they have no intention to negotiate. Their agenda is to instigate war against our civil society... They want the US to revert back to lawless Dodge City before Wyatt Erpp and his brothers had to forcefully enforce the laws...
Tune into Fox News.. I posted Tucker Carlson's monologue from last night on the "Riots in Minneapolis" thread he exposes the rues with evidence, not opinion...
 
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The peaceful protesters are certainly, unfortunately the rioters have their own agenda... Antifa is an anarchist organization that is being funded much like a terrorist organization with a much bigger agenda (posted on their social media forums and within their manual). They are employing Gaurilla Warfare tactics and information warfare to recruit our youth. Their agenda is more about class inequality than race inequality. They do not have a spokesperson as they have no intention to negotiate. Their agenda is to instigate war against our civil society... They want the US to revert back to lawless Dodge City before Wyatt Erpp and his brothers had to forcefully enforce the laws...
Tune into Fox News.. I posted Tucker Carlson's monologue from last night on the "Riots in Minneapolis" thread he exposes the rues with evidence, not opinion...
I'm not understanding. Who killed this guy , and why?
 
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The peaceful protesters are certainly, unfortunately the rioters have their own agenda... Antifa is an anarchist organization that is being funded much like a terrorist organization with a much bigger agenda (posted on their social media forums and within their manual). They are employing Gaurilla Warfare tactics and information warfare to recruit our youth. Their agenda is more about class inequality than race inequality. They do not have a spokesperson as they have no intention to negotiate. Their agenda is to instigate war against our civil society... They want the US to revert back to lawless Dodge City before Wyatt Erpp and his brothers had to forcefully enforce the laws...
Tune into Fox News.. I posted Tucker Carlson's monologue from last night on the "Riots in Minneapolis" thread he exposes the rues with evidence, not opinion...
What happened to Hannidy???
 

Solemateleft

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I'm not understanding. Who killed this guy , and why?
We know that a cop killed Mr Floyd. But Antifa is a group of opportunist who routinely hijack protest as a means to infiltrate and mask their underlying anarchist agenda. Imagine the vehicle hijacker who patiently awaits their next opportunity to seize the one that best suits their needs.
 

Roughsoul1991

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The peaceful protesters are certainly, unfortunately the rioters have their own agenda... Antifa is an anarchist organization that is being funded much like a terrorist organization with a much bigger agenda (posted on their social media forums and within their manual). They are employing Gaurilla Warfare tactics and information warfare to recruit our youth. Their agenda is more about class inequality than race inequality. They do not have a spokesperson as they have no intention to negotiate. Their agenda is to instigate war against our civil society... They want the US to revert back to lawless Dodge City before Wyatt Erpp and his brothers had to forcefully enforce the laws...
Tune into Fox News.. I posted Tucker Carlson's monologue from last night on the "Riots in Minneapolis" thread he exposes the rues with evidence, not opinion...
According to the ANTIFA manifesto or ill nickname it the communist manifesto, it gets worse than an anarchy type of state. Basically if your white, you are the oppressors. If you hold property then you are an oppressor (the majority of everyone). If you love America as traditional America then you are their enemy. They have become a real threat and thank God they have finally been classified as a terrorist group. (They should have been a long time ago.)

I do not believe in the narrative of the media. I do not believe the majority of this nation is ready to burn it to the ground. I believe the goodwill triumph with prayer and righteous anger that stirs the patriots to actions. We have already seen patriots blocking roads against rioters, defending stores, stopping a bank robbery, helping the police. If they push too hard, they will see how unready this country is for their Communist agenda.
 

Solemateleft

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I believe a retired police chief as well.
Yes, this is a fact: I just caught that news as well on Fox... They Revealed that no other networks were covering that story/fact and all of the live videos that the Antifa-Terrorists posted watching him die and nobody coming to his assistance - has since been removed...
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Son of retired officer killed in looting has message for person who pulled trigger
 

Roughsoul1991

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Yes, this is a fact: I just caught that news as well on Fox... They Revealed that no other networks were covering that story/fact and all of the live videos that the Antifa-Terrorists posted watching him die and nobody coming to his assistance - has since been removed...
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Son of retired officer killed in looting has message for person who pulled trigger
1 innocent man is killed so we should kill 8+ innocent people. People should be united on calling out these terrorist. I heard today it is actually more than ANTIFA but multiple groups.
 
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jaybird88

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I been studying research studies on police and racial disparities. Here is one from MSU.edu.

“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot," Cesario said. "If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2019/the-truth-behind-racial-disparities-in-fatal-police-shootings/

I believe we should be looking at the data and not just the media. This is a ongoing study in which some of you may want to add your own research. We need facts not opinions.

Another question would be what has contributed to these high crime areas. Welfare? Drug cartels Fentanyl ( other drugs) release within our country, poor assimilation, etc.
i would say no jobs

i remember when i was in my late teens / early 20s and i would have to go to court about every other month, speeding, reckless driving, destruction of property (did donuts on the golf course one night) i was a pretty rotten kid. i will never forget many of the black kids that got hit with the same things i did for doing practically nothing. i remember once these two guys got picked up for running a stop sign, cop was across from them and they ran a stop sign in front of them?? they claimed they didnt but the cop said they did so it didnt matter what they said, they pulled them over, got about three more cops to show up, got the drug dogs, searched their car for over an hour and in the end they got hit with the stop sign, wrapping papers, and drug "residue" in the ash tray. these guys really did nothing wrong but the cops tried like crazy to find something, anything to hang on em. i saw something like this all the time. our town wasnt really a very racest town, but the cops really hated black folks.
 
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this is really sad to read JB, but oh so common in all of today's world - and I mean in ALL of the world, today and yesterday...
nothing new, just 'old-patterns' of the 'old pattern/makers', being handed down from generation to generation:
as so, the patterns continue on, until our Saviour intervenes and 'makes all of the narrow paths straight'...
 

Prycejosh1987

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I think the police can act corruptly and not care about humans but themselves. Not just america but all over the world. Even African and Jamaican police can be corrupt.