Warning to Christians: Totally Refuse COVID Vaccines

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EnglishChick

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The whole world is in on it. Even Boris Johnson faked almost dying and Trump did not really go to Walter Reed Army Hospital with COVID-19. That was his body double. South America, North America, Australia, Asia, Europe, Africa and even Antarctica are in on the hoax.

If you love Jesus, stop wearing masks.

how on earth does wearing or not wearing a mask have anything to do with our love for Jesus? Wear. Don't wear. It's up to you but don't make people doubt their walk with God over a piece of material on a bit of elastic
 

EnglishChick

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There is no condemnation for those of us who are in Christ as we are those who walk by the Spirit?

Does the vaccine have potential side effect?. Yes
Is covid overhyped? Maybe yes

Does the vaccine damn you to hell? Of course not!

The mark won't come until the tribulation occurs we are not in it yet. Jacobs Trouble has to come first
 

Billyd

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@Jocund, Your website triggered my virus software. I'll stay away from it.
 

Jocund

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Yeah I'm not clicking a link from a sketchy fileserve site known for child porn, viruses and piracy.
Point me to a published source? i still have pubmed access.
I provided two links that host a pdf that consolidates data from VAERS and various news articles that had reported on adverse effects. You are welcome to look at the VAERS data directly and to hunt down the various articles that cover adverse effects. The VAERS data is published on a US government website: https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html
 

Nehemiah6

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The VAERS data is published on a US government website...
And that data may only be showing the tip of the iceberg. The European data (which began to be posted later) showed much higher numbers, meaning that VAERS is under-reporting. Quite the opposite of the fear-mongering over-reporting of so-called COVID cases and deaths. In fact there is an attorney who is now suing both CDC and NIH for deliberately misleading the public and causing panic (which led to disastrous consequences).
 

posthuman

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I provided two links that host a pdf that consolidates data from VAERS and various news articles that had reported on adverse effects. You are welcome to look at the VAERS data directly and to hunt down the various articles that cover adverse effects. The VAERS data is published on a US government website: https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html
uh huh.

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here are results from all the anecdotal, completely unverified comments that anyone can enter into VAERS, searching ALL covid vaccines. note that the VAERS website has disclaimers all over it saying none of this means any of the reported adverse affects actually have anything to do with the vaccination and the reported data may be completely false because no one checks it and literally anyone can troll it.

so 4 reports of blood clotting problems out of 150 million administered = 0.000002%

thanks. the problem is actually a hundred times less prevalent, according to your data.
we should expect a whopping 9 people in the whole country to have a blood clot from a vaccination if literally everyone in the country is vaccinated.

scary
 

Jocund

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uh huh.

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here are results from all the anecdotal, completely unverified comments that anyone can enter into VAERS, searching ALL covid vaccines. note that the VAERS website has disclaimers all over it saying none of this means any of the reported adverse affects actually have anything to do with the vaccination and the reported data may be completely false because no one checks it and literally anyone can troll it.

so 4 reports of blood clotting problems out of 150 million administered = 0.000002%

thanks. the problem is actually a hundred times less prevalent, according to your data.
we should expect a whopping 9 people in the whole country to have a blood clot from a vaccination if literally everyone in the country is vaccinated.


scary
Your tactic of focusing on blood clots is dishonest, the discussion is about any adverse effects.
 

posthuman

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Your tactic of focusing on blood clots is dishonest, the discussion is about any adverse effects.
Um, I was talking about blood clots associated with the J&J vaccine, and their tremendously low incidence rate. You asked me how I got those numbers. I showed you the math. Then you put links to a set of unverified data with disclaimers all over it saying it's probably neither trustworthy nor complete.
That data set shows even lower incidence of blood clots associated with covid vaccines.

And now you are changing the subject?

Go back and check the thread mate you seem to have lost the narrative. I'm not coming back to this again. Thanks for the data.
 

kaylagrl

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There's health concerns and moral dilemmas for all vaccines. I'm taking a religious exemption for any mandatory vaccinations.

Yep. Me too. My mother was upset because she just got the J and J vaccine and then read that it used fetal tissue in some way. She was so upset. And I told her if it was true she didn't know and it's not her fault. I'm not anti-vax, but I want to wait and see how this turns out before I make a decision. Still, my choice what I choose to do medically with my body. No one should be forced to do this.
 

Runningman

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Yep. Me too. My mother was upset because she just got the J and J vaccine and then read that it used fetal tissue in some way. She was so upset. And I told her if it was true she didn't know and it's not her fault. I'm not anti-vax, but I want to wait and see how this turns out before I make a decision. Still, my choice what I choose to do medically with my body. No one should be forced to do this.
If you make a choice then make a choice knowing that modern vaccines owe their research and development to tests performed on the stem cells of murdered babies. No exaggeration.

While not all modern vaccines contain actual stem cells, all vaccines are derived from stem cell testing. In some way or another they owe their development to stem cell research. To me that's a problem and I won't be enabling them or dignifying vaccines until when/if they find a more moral/ethical approach to it.

I'm also not going to risk my neck on getting a blood clot or any of that nonsense for a vaccine that doesn't actually prevent the spread of viruses. Even if the risk is very small, they think we're disposable enough to risk our life for an unethical vaccine. That won't be my legacy.
 

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uh huh.

View attachment 227255

here are results from all the anecdotal, completely unverified comments that anyone can enter into VAERS, searching ALL covid vaccines. note that the VAERS website has disclaimers all over it saying none of this means any of the reported adverse affects actually have anything to do with the vaccination and the reported data may be completely false because no one checks it and literally anyone can troll it.

so 4 reports of blood clotting problems out of 150 million administered = 0.000002%

thanks. the problem is actually a hundred times less prevalent, according to your data.
we should expect a whopping 9 people in the whole country to have a blood clot from a vaccination if literally everyone in the country is vaccinated.


scary
What if you were one of the nine? Not wishing anything on you at all, just asking :)
 

Demi777

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Im not gonna get any of these vaccines. And im trying to stay away from vaccinated people. Let em keep their spike proteins for themselves. Cant totally avoid em but can reduce the risk.
Here theyre working on a law to force people to be vaccinated. (Germany)
 

Demi777

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If you make a choice then make a choice knowing that modern vaccines owe their research and development to tests performed on the stem cells of murdered babies. No exaggeration.

While not all modern vaccines contain actual stem cells, all vaccines are derived from stem cell testing. In some way or another they owe their development to stem cell research. To me that's a problem and I won't be enabling them or dignifying vaccines until when/if they find a more moral/ethical approach to it.

I'm also not going to risk my neck on getting a blood clot or any of that nonsense for a vaccine that doesn't actually prevent the spread of viruses. Even if the risk is very small, they think we're disposable enough to risk our life for an unethical vaccine. That won't be my legacy.
Agree 100%
 

Demi777

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0.00008% chance of getting a blood clot from J&J vaccine, and it's not even yet established that the clots have anything to do with the vaccine. maybe 50 Americans could die if every one of us got this shot.

on the other hand, covid has a ~ 1 or 2% fatality rate. 4 million Americans could die if nothing is done.

so.. i am thinking it's pretty weird to pull the vaccine for a 1 in a million chance of a side effect. i mean good grief i have a better chance of being allergic to tylenol


i figure it's about optics -- trying to put on a good show for conspiracy nuts like you, to prove they're being cautious -- or it's about the money sunk into one of the other vaccines. you take 2 out of 3 of the available vaccines down, and the 3rd one gets $$$$$
Whem talking about mortality rates..remember that the mortality rate of the seasonal flu is higher than covid once ur 60+ and have some underlying health problems. Just sayin.
 

DJZawada

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The propaganda here is no different than anywhere else which tells you humanity is inundated with the lies.

As for me and my house we shall serve the Lord.