What do you think will become of this?

[Zmouth]

People aren't interested in what right I may have to say, they're interested in what wrongs I may have to say.

Dam, you got me cause I am more interested in your right to say than whether or not what you say is right.

 

[Depleted]

This is part of the problem too - when we read with the anticipation of finding something to argue about. People aren't interested in what right I may have to say, they're interested in what wrongs I may have to say.

I have changed peoples minds, tho very very rarely, it's always been someone who was honestly seeking an answer instead of insisting on giving one. And I have had my mind changed too ... I'm smart enough to know that I'm not smart enough

But, there is an assumption there that isn't always true. How often have you been seeking answers when you happen upon a conversation? How often do you enter any thread on social media to seek answers? Yes, there are times when we do seek answers. (That's how I found this site. Saw something in the Bible that confused me, so did a online search. Sure enough, TinTin had posted something years earlier, that answered my question.) BUT most the time we talk we already think we know the answer, or we don't even think it's a question that needs answering.

One of the problems I have with people on CC is the amount of people who post-to-teach, as if they are experts, because they have a teaching. I will listen, if you (general "you," not specifically YOU) want to tell me what you're thinking, but I'll bristle if you start with the assumption you know more than I do. You might know more than I do, however, starting with that assumption isn't conducive to teaching me.

Honestly? I think that is something you (and, this time specifically YOU lol) and I have in common. Except, we come at it from opposite sides. You think I post to your threads with an "I'll learn you yet" attitude, but I'm really trying to get you to see the larger picture. And, I tend to think you start with an "I'll learn you yet" attitude, but you may be just telling what you think.

Neither one of us is young. We're already to the point of knowing what we know, with a quiet wonder if maybe we might be wrong on some points -- not many, but some. Would it not be easier to come at these things as if not everyone is out to get questions answered? Would it not be easier to assume we share, because we want to be heard and possibly make for a broader appeal to whatever it is we're talking about?

For instance, this post. I think it's that teaching/"I'll learn you yet" condescending attitude that comes from "Well the Holy Spirit told me to tell you you are wrong" that riles me too. (Agreement? Right?) The second someone tells me the Holy Spirit tells them to say anything is the second I stop believing the Holy Spirit even speaks to them... until otherwise notified. (Hey! On a rare moment, I do hear words of wisdom and words of discernment, so I can't go with blanket decision on that one. lol)

I, for one, will never say "The Holy Spirit told me to tell you" because I know what that means to me. To me, that means I'm cocky enough to think I am God's voice! You'll be happy to know I never think I'm God's voice.

I can't mark when someone has changed my mind, but mostly because I, personally, need more proof for anything, before changing my mind, and I usually have to seek out more proof... or wait for it to stumble in front of me. lol

 

[RickyZ]

While I may quote someone to start a post, I'm not always addressing the person who wrote the quote. Sometimes it's a jumping off point to bring up a more generalized idea. And yes I'm guilty as anyone else in these things. This is really an exercise in me learning how to avoid these pitfalls, and sharing it with others who may wish to avoid them as well.

 

[oldethennew]

when hub and I post here, we're posting for so many different reasons, and that would be
according to the question or topic that we are led to...a very important aspect of giving/sharing
a question or an appeal for help is having the Spiritual discernment to discern what the person
really needs or is really asking - it should never be about 'petting' our own ego, for after
Conversion Jesus has an amazing way of 'deflating' them! humility is always good, but very
difficult for many to learn, especially because of the ways of this fallen-world, but it is a very
important 'requirement' to be a sensitive and understanding servant of God and His people...

the things that both of us have learned here at CC, has very much enriched our lives, as well
as introducing us to so many beautiful hearts with such good intentions - of course there is always
the 'other-side', only wanting to create discord or create un-profitable arguments, and then, there is
and always will be those who the 'wiley-one' sends and controls...

 

[Depleted]

While I may quote someone to start a post, I'm not always addressing the person who wrote the quote. Sometimes it's a jumping off point to bring up a more generalized idea. And yes I'm guilty as anyone else in these things. This is really an exercise in me learning how to avoid these pitfalls, and sharing it with others who may wish to avoid them as well.

Agreeing there too. And, have to add. I'm pretty sure I pitted my road for years with potholes sometime in the past, so now I'm working at filling them in or figuring another way around them.

Good to have the company in the trying thing, but, warning. If you get near me, my road is an ankle twister waiting to happen. lol

 

[oldethennew]

Lynn,

some of us thrive on 'ankle-twisters', they are great growing tools
and bone builders...