What's the point? Everything is selfish.

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blue_ladybug

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To begin with, the red highlighted is totally untrue. I DID NOT "go after" ANYONE. I simply said I don't listen to preachers like MacArthur or Prince. Nor did I act like I "wouldn't stoop so low". Not everyone listens to what preachers say. Half the time I don't even watch the online church service, because the video freezes up every time, so basically, I don't get any church time in at all. That ain't MY fault. Sooo, I get my "church" from the bible. God knows I don't learn much HERE. lol


Nope. Apparently your preference, which is fine. But, you are getting your understanding of the Bible somewhere besides "only the Bible." We all do! It's okay to listen to preachers, just as long as we understand if they're worth listening to.

You were going after a guy for being a preacher and attacking him, as if you would never stoop so low. It's not low anymore than the guy out of Florida. MacArthur is wordy. (So am I. lol) He uses words above my vocabulary skills, but he's good. He's good. And he got good by studying. Don't put down a guy just because you don't listen to him. Especially when you said you only get your info from the Bible.

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Nope. Apparently your preference, which is fine. But, you are getting your understanding of the Bible somewhere besides "only the Bible." We all do! It's okay to listen to preachers, just as long as we understand if they're worth listening to.

You were going after a guy for being a preacher and attacking him, as if you would never stoop so low. It's not low anymore than the guy out of Florida. MacArthur is wordy. (So am I. lol) He uses words above my vocabulary skills, but he's good. He's good. And he got good by studying. Don't put down a guy just because you don't listen to him. Especially when you said you only get your info from the Bible.

That's all.
Well said...
 

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Just wondering if anyone else thinks that all this has no point except to be better off in heaven after death. As every dream or effort seems to have a selfish connection no matter what. Unless your a travelling healer preacher.
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To begin with, the red highlighted is totally untrue. I DID NOT "go after" ANYONE. I simply said I don't listen to preachers like MacArthur or Prince. Nor did I act like I "wouldn't stoop so low". Not everyone listens to what preachers say. Half the time I don't even watch the online church service, because the video freezes up every time, so basically, I don't get any church time in at all. That ain't MY fault. Sooo, I get my "church" from the bible. God knows I don't learn much HERE. lol


Then I misunderstood?

Big fat hairy deal..lol..

He may be a professor, but he is NOT smarter than God. And if you think he is, then you're fooling yourself..
Big fat hairy deal sounded like a put down. Of course, I've never heard the phrase before, so what was the deal that got big fat and hairy, if not MacArthur? (And why am I seeing a wart with hair growing out of it? :eek:
Apparently you want us to share your dismal view that it's impossible to be kind to others.. IT ISN'T..
Calling MacArthur's view dismal is a put down, particular since you don't know him and didn't read it.
YOU'RE trying to serve two masters.. You're listening to the word of man, instead of the word of GOD. THAT'S your biggest mistake right there.. IT IS POSSIBLE TO TREAT OTHERS THE SAME WAY THAT YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.. Just because you're stuck in your wallow pit, doesn't mean that you can't do nice stuff for others.
And you aren't saying MacArthur is one of two masters? I'm not sure I'm seeing that right. There is doubt in my mind, but I lean towards thinking that you called him a master. So, I can at least tell you it would be easy to persuade me into another view of that one.

I didn't mean this to turn into a fight. (Had enough of that earlier.) It just seemed like you're putting him down.
 

blue_ladybug

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Oh for the love of a donkey.. sigh.."Big fat hairy deal" equals "so what, he's a preacher".. lol..And FTR I was referring to Dai with the "dismal view" and "you serve two masters" comments. I could care less about all these preachers.. lol.. So yes, you misunderstood. :)

To Dai, I am sorry if I offended you with those statements. :)


Then I misunderstood?


Big fat hairy deal sounded like a put down. Of course, I've never heard the phrase before, so what was the deal that got big fat and hairy, if not MacArthur? (And why am I seeing a wart with hair growing out of it? :eek:

Calling MacArthur's view dismal is a put down, particular since you don't know him and didn't read it.

And you aren't saying MacArthur is one of two masters? I'm not sure I'm seeing that right. There is doubt in my mind, but I lean towards thinking that you called him a master. So, I can at least tell you it would be easy to persuade me into another view of that one.

I didn't mean this to turn into a fight. (Had enough of that earlier.) It just seemed like you're putting him down.
 
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Oh for the love of a donkey.. sigh.."Big fat hairy deal" equals "so what, he's a preacher".. lol..And FTR I was referring to Dai with the "dismal view" and "you serve two masters" comments. I could care less about all these preachers.. lol.. So yes, you misunderstood. :)

To Dai, I am sorry if I offended you with those statements. :)
Oooooooooooooooooooh! Okay. Now I get it!

Now, can you tell me how to get this image of a big hairy wart out of my brain?
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To begin with, the red highlighted is totally untrue. I DID NOT "go after" ANYONE. I simply said I don't listen to preachers like MacArthur or Prince. Nor did I act like I "wouldn't stoop so low". Not everyone listens to what preachers say. Half the time I don't even watch the online church service, because the video freezes up every time, so basically, I don't get any church time in at all. That ain't MY fault. Sooo, I get my "church" from the bible. God knows I don't learn much HERE. lol


Blue_Ladybug you do not have to get defensive. You did nothing wrong, so why should you defend yourself?

Just ignore those who mock or troll you, or say things about you. This is online, not in person and letting some idiot trolls wind you up online just isn't worth it. Just ignore the idiots, your friends here know that you are true :) so forget the idiots.
 

blue_ladybug

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I wasn't being defensive. :) I was only stating that I don't listen to people like MacArthur or Joseph Prince..If others want to, that's their choice. :)


Blue_Ladybug you do not have to get defensive. You did nothing wrong, so why should you defend yourself?

Just ignore those who mock or troll you, or say things about you. This is online, not in person and letting some idiot trolls wind you up online just isn't worth it. Just ignore the idiots, your friends here know that you are true :) so forget the idiots.
 
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we Love those whom are called 'idiots', they always seem to have something meaningful
to say that others/many don't get!...
 
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Blue_Ladybug you do not have to get defensive. You did nothing wrong, so why should you defend yourself?

Just ignore those who mock or troll you, or say things about you. This is online, not in person and letting some idiot trolls wind you up online just isn't worth it. Just ignore the idiots, your friends here know that you are true :) so forget the idiots.
Blue and I have been friends for two years now. (More like sisters sharing a small room.) No one was asking her to defend herself. Actually, I was chuckling with her over the not-into-listening-to-preachers concept because I do know her, and it was kind of funny. And, I really was concerned that it seemed like she was putting down a preacher, but we got that straightened out too. Even the internal vision of a wart is fading, (and probably would fade quicker if I didn't keep bringing it up. lol)

But, you? Thanks so much for coming along and judging without knowledge that there are idiots and a trolls arguing with her. Mighty Christian of you. You fit right in. (And that's not said with a chuckle.)
 
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alright space cadets back to the original question yo answer of whats the point everything is selfish,well the point of all that we do now for god is we strive to spread gods word and help others to grasp the truth that jesus died for our sins so to answer your question the point of living is that jesus restored our lives so we now do what we can to help each other just as jesus himself stated as a final commandment to his disciples"love each other as I have loved you" meaning care for each other til jesus' promise comes to pass of judgement for he shall come as a thief in the night so we must teach and help each other til that time that is your "point" you are looking for and it is "NOT Selfish" in fact if you are contemplating giveing up on life then you are the "SELFISH" one because jesus died for us so that we could not only live but also be saved and to giveup such life is to care nothing for jesus' sacrifice nor god making you in the first place and tis better to try and fail at something than to do nothing and succeed for we are not like plants they live and grow with or without work where as we must work to keep what we hold dear in our hearts for twas not us who made the earth nor stars,nor did we make the resources that are abundant god did all this the "point" as you put it is to simply do "OUR" part, for god already has done his part and still does his part to put it more plainly we are to take care of each other,and repay our brother and our father for all they have and still do for us though we can not do this with mere money we can do this by caring for one another,spreading god's word,and holding fast to that which jesus promised for what use was his promise that he shall return if we cannot be vigilant and long suffering and faithful to the cause that all can receive salvation for what use shall the blind lead the blind we must all open our eyes,hearts,and souls to god instead of pointing fingers and wallowing in self pity for what use is there in being sad when thou hast everything,and what use is there in being mournful when thou hast not died, the final "point" is it is not pointless to live and serve god for all other ways point to sin and the wages of sin is death.
 

blue_ladybug

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Once again, you need to use capital letters and punctuation, as well as paragraphs, or NOBODY is going to read what you write. Also, to show respect for God, you should capitalize His name.. :)

And calling people "space cadets" isn't very nice, especially when you don't know any of us. :/

alright space cadets back to the original question yo answer of whats the point everything is selfish,well the point of all that we do now for god is we strive to spread gods word and help others to grasp the truth that jesus died for our sins so to answer your question the point of living is that jesus restored our lives so we now do what we can to help each other just as jesus himself stated as a final commandment to his disciples"love each other as I have loved you" meaning care for each other til jesus' promise comes to pass of judgement for he shall come as a thief in the night so we must teach and help each other til that time that is your "point" you are looking for and it is "NOT Selfish" in fact if you are contemplating giveing up on life then you are the "SELFISH" one because jesus died for us so that we could not only live but also be saved and to giveup such life is to care nothing for jesus' sacrifice nor god making you in the first place and tis better to try and fail at something than to do nothing and succeed for we are not like plants they live and grow with or without work where as we must work to keep what we hold dear in our hearts for twas not us who made the earth nor stars,nor did we make the resources that are abundant god did all this the "point" as you put it is to simply do "OUR" part, for god already has done his part and still does his part to put it more plainly we are to take care of each other,and repay our brother and our father for all they have and still do for us though we can not do this with mere money we can do this by caring for one another,spreading god's word,and holding fast to that which jesus promised for what use was his promise that he shall return if we cannot be vigilant and long suffering and faithful to the cause that all can receive salvation for what use shall the blind lead the blind we must all open our eyes,hearts,and souls to god instead of pointing fingers and wallowing in self pity for what use is there in being sad when thou hast everything,and what use is there in being mournful when thou hast not died, the final "point" is it is not pointless to live and serve god for all other ways point to sin and the wages of sin is death.
 
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alright space cadets back to the original question yo answer of whats the point everything is selfish,well the point of all that we do now for god is we strive to spread gods word and help others to grasp the truth that jesus died for our sins so to answer your question the point of living is that jesus restored our lives so we now do what we can to help each other just as jesus himself stated as a final commandment to his disciples"love each other as I have loved you" meaning care for each other til jesus' promise comes to pass of judgement for he shall come as a thief in the night so we must teach and help each other til that time that is your "point" you are looking for and it is "NOT Selfish" in fact if you are contemplating giveing up on life then you are the "SELFISH" one because jesus died for us so that we could not only live but also be saved and to giveup such life is to care nothing for jesus' sacrifice nor god making you in the first place and tis better to try and fail at something than to do nothing and succeed for we are not like plants they live and grow with or without work where as we must work to keep what we hold dear in our hearts for twas not us who made the earth nor stars,nor did we make the resources that are abundant god did all this the "point" as you put it is to simply do "OUR" part, for god already has done his part and still does his part to put it more plainly we are to take care of each other,and repay our brother and our father for all they have and still do for us though we can not do this with mere money we can do this by caring for one another,spreading god's word,and holding fast to that which jesus promised for what use was his promise that he shall return if we cannot be vigilant and long suffering and faithful to the cause that all can receive salvation for what use shall the blind lead the blind we must all open our eyes,hearts,and souls to god instead of pointing fingers and wallowing in self pity for what use is there in being sad when thou hast everything,and what use is there in being mournful when thou hast not died, the final "point" is it is not pointless to live and serve god for all other ways point to sin and the wages of sin is death.
Sadly, that was a total waste of time and typing, since it is almost unreadable.
 

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Sadly, that was a total waste of time and typing, since it is almost unreadable.
Private schooling, and home schooling.... that's our only hope.

Punctuation and sentence structure are your friends...
 

Magenta

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alright space cadets back to the original question

yo answer of whats the point everything is selfish, well the point of all that we do now for god is we strive to spread gods word and help others to grasp the truth that Jesus died for our sins

so to answer your question the point of living is that Jesus restored our lives

so we now do what we can to help each other just as Jesus himself stated as a final commandment to his disciples "love each other as I have loved you" meaning care for each other til Jesus' promise comes to pass of judgement

for he shall come as a thief in the night so we must teach and help each other til that time

that is your "point" you are looking for and it is "NOT Selfish" in fact if you are contemplating giving up on life then you are the "SELFISH" one because Jesus died for us so that we could not only live but also be saved

and to give up such life is to care nothing for Jesus' sacrifice nor god making you in the first place and tis better to try and fail at something than to do nothing and succeed

for we are not like plants they live and grow with or without work where as we must work to keep what we hold dear in our hearts for twas not us who made the earth nor stars, nor did we make the resources that are abundant

god did all this the "point" as you put it is to simply do "OUR" part, for god already has done his part and still does his part

to put it more plainly we are to take care of each other, and repay our brother and our father for all they have and still do for us

though we can not do this with mere money we can do this by caring for one another, spreading god's word, and holding fast to that which Jesus promised

for what use was his promise that he shall return if we cannot be vigilant and long suffering and faithful to the cause that all can receive salvation

for what use shall the blind lead the blind

we must all open our eyes, hearts, and souls to god instead of pointing fingers and wallowing in self pity

for what use is there in being sad when thou hast everything, and what use is there in being mournful when thou hast not died,

the final "point" is it is not pointless

to live and serve god for all other ways point to sin and the wages of sin is death.
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Maybe, more like this? (You wrote too good a thought to just leave it floundering.)

All right, Space Cadets, back to the original question.

And, that would be: “What’s the point? — everything is selfish.”

Well, the” point” of all that we now do for God is that we are to strive to spread God’s word, and help others to grasp the truth that Jesus died for our sins. So, to answer your question… The point of living is that Jesus restored our lives so we now do what we can to help each others. Just as Jesus, himself, stated as a final commandment to his disciples, "Love each other as I have loved you." Meaning, ”Care for each other until Jesus' promise of judgement comes to pass — for he shall come “as a thief in the night.”

This means that we must teach and help each other until that time. That is the "point" I think you are looking for, and it is "NOT Selfish."

In fact, if you were contemplating giving up on life, then you would be the "SELFISH" one, because Jesus died for us so that we could not only live, but also be saved. To give up such life, is to care nothing for Jesus' sacrifice, or for God making you in the first place. As the bard said: Tis better to try and fail at something than to do nothing and succeed.

For we are not like plants. They live and grow with without effort. Whereas, we must work to keep what we hold dear in our hearts. Because it was not we who made the earth, nor the stars. Neither did we make the resources that are in abundance all around us. God did all this.

The "point", as you put it, is to simply do "OUR" part, for God already has done his part.. and continues to do his part.
To put it more plainly, we are to take care of each other. And we are to repay our brother and our father for all they have done, and still do for us. Although we cannot do this with mere money, we can do it by caring for one another… by spreading God's Word, and holding fast to that which Jesus promised.

For, of what use was his promise that he shall return, if we cannot be vigilant and long-suffering and faithful to the cause that all can receive salvation.

Again, what use is it for the blind to lead the blind? We must all open our eyes, hearts, and souls to God, instead of pointing fingers and wallowing in self-pity.

There is no “point” in being sad when you already have everything. And "what use is there in being mournful when thou hast not died? "

The final "point" is that it is not “pointless” to live and serve God, for all other ways point to sin and the wages of sin is death.
 
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Private schooling, and home schooling.... that's our only hope.

Punctuation and sentence structure are your friends...
Both my brother and my sister are a couple of decades younger than me. And they are both just about as intelligent as I am. But, you would never know it to hear them speak, or to try and read most anything either of them writes.

I swear, it really makes me wonder what in the world has happened to the public school system. Did they just totally give up on trying to teach pupils?