Do you still buy music?

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Socreta93

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No. Spotify and Apple Music is better at downloading music.
 

Moses_Young

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You villify those who want payment for the hours of time and money spent developing something. Yet you no doubt expect to get paid when you go to work.
Justify your theft by saying it's not God's laws, but mens, despite that God instructs people to obey the laws of the land. In your attempt to justify theft you actually proved your theft.
Your arguments all rely on you reframing everything to a manner that makes it easy for you to tear it down. If you have to jump through so many hoops, play so many word games and change so many realities to make your view be the right one, then your view is wrong.
I don't jump through any hoops. I believe in honest payment for honest work. If all I do is copy something that's already been made, why does that deserve payment? If I charge an extortionate amount for the time involved in copying something and the media onto which I copy it, and someone else can do it for a tenth or less of my price, why do I deserve a monopoly on that?

Just ask yourself - is sharing a sin? If the answer is yes, then copying music/software is bad. If the answer is no, then it's not. It's not complicated, and requires no special reframing or word games. :)
 
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To clarify, it's not a monopoly and copyright was invented, as stated in the copyright law (quoting the constitution) "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Tımes to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries." You can read the full U.S. copyright law here and it's rather clear cut. The point of copyright is so creators are protected to receive payment for their work in order to carry on creating more works instead of people just copying their work for free. It's to support creators. The limited duration is so that the protection will expire after an adequate time to prevent monopolies from occurring. (Unfortunately Disney's lawyers keep pushing the expiration date to hold onto Mickey Mouse and continue their monopoly.)

To iterate what I've learned about copyright laws:
In section 102 of the copyright law it states that it protects "original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression", keyword being "tangible" such as books or sheet music. The digital age resulted in more laws being passed to protect music and media stored in a digital medium. Section 102 includes a list of what types of media are protected by copyright.
Section 106 lists what exclusive rights the copyright owner has on their copyrighted work. These include the right to make copies, the right to make derivatives (the exception being what falls under parody law), the right to distribute copies either by giving, selling, or renting, the right to perform or display the work publicly, including via "digital transmission".

The question isn't really about whether you feel or believe copying/sharing music right or wrong, legally it's always wrong unless you obtain the rights to do so. Most of the time only parts of these rights are given to third parties, such as movie theaters, stores, coffee shops, etc. Buying a copy of a piece of music does not legally give you any right to those listed in section 106. If you're old enough to recall VHS tapes you might remember the "FBI Warning" at the beginning which says very plainly that even though you own the tape, you're not allowed to copy it or play it publicly.
 

BrotherMike

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I buy Apple Music for $99 a year. I can listen to mostly any song at any time commercial free. I love playing the Christian risers play list that has mostly new music. I also search for new Christian artists and add the albums to my playlists. I figure my kids will have different tastes in music than me so not concerned about passing down music :)
 

RemnantRD

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I tend to buy my music song by song. I like to find songs where the artists have a discernable anointing by the Holy Spirit. I also make a distinction between songs for worship and songs for praise :) It's hard to use streaming services to play music at church as we are a small ministry that meets in a garage. Our normal format is to play a few songs, and then I sing for the closing song of worship before the message begins :)