A critical look at Harris

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NightTwister

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2000: Trump enters the presidential race as a Reform Party candidate and receives more than 15,000 votes in the party's California primary.
So he got 15,000 more votes than Kamala Harris has ever had in a Presidential Primary election :)
Should we not allow him to run because he dropped out of a race previously as you seem to be wanting to claim about VP Harris?
Non sequitur. There's no comparison. Trump was not <i>selected</i> to run as the Reform Party candidate in the 2000 General election.
 

NightTwister

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If you can't support your claims, they can be summarily dismissed.
You like to use this a lot. It means you're just using canned talking points. Have you actually done any research on your own? Why do you not address issues that really matter to Christians since you're on a Christian Chat site? Issues like the callous taking of human life? Kamala Harris supports abortion up to and right after the moment of birth.

1. Kamala Harris is a co-sponsor of S.1645, a bill that, if enacted, would invalidate nearly all state and federal limitations on abortion.
2. Kamala Harris voted against legislation that would protect unborn children from abortion after 20 weeks when the unborn child can feel pain.
3. Kamala Harris voted against the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act.
4. Kamala Harris voted to allow the use of our tax dollars for abortion. She also voted for taxpayer funding of abortion providers.
5. Kamala Harris voted against confirmation of Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court.
 

JayBird

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You like to use this a lot. It means you're just using canned talking points.
No, it's a logical response after someone refuses to support their claims.

Have you actually done any research on your own?
Yep.

Why do you not address issues that really matter to Christians since you're on a Christian Chat site? Issues like the callous taking of human life? Kamala Harris supports abortion up to and right after the moment of birth.
Source or citation please.

1. Kamala Harris is a co-sponsor of S.1645, a bill that, if enacted, would invalidate nearly all state and federal limitations on abortion.
2. Kamala Harris voted against legislation that would protect unborn children from abortion after 20 weeks when the unborn child can feel pain.
3. Kamala Harris voted against the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act.
4. Kamala Harris voted to allow the use of our tax dollars for abortion. She also voted for taxpayer funding of abortion providers.
5. Kamala Harris voted against confirmation of Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court.
As I explained here yesterday, while I view abortion as a terrible thing, I have also seen (first hand) cases where the pregnancy goes horribly, terribly wrong and the family is left with a decision that I would never wish on anyone. And I don't feel it's the federal government's role to step in and dictate the decision to them.

That's why I support policies that have been shown to actually reduce the number of abortions. Bans don't work, as we've found out since RvW was overturned (abortions have since increased).
 

NightTwister

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Source or citation please.
Google is your friend.
As I explained here yesterday, while I view abortion as a terrible thing, I have also seen (first hand) cases where the pregnancy goes horribly, terribly wrong and the family is left with a decision that I would never wish on anyone.
Nor would I, but how is murder the answer?
And I don't feel it's the federal government's role to step in and dictate the decision to them.
There are laws against murder. Do you feel it's not the federal governments role to step in and dictate the decision for them?[/QUOTE]
That's why I support policies that have been shown to actually reduce the number of abortions. Bans don't work, as we've found out since RvW was overturned (abortions have since increased).
If you support policies that actually reduce the number of abortions, then you wouldn't be a Kamala Harris supporter. She supports unlimited, government funded abortion, up to and just after birth.
 

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That's why I support policies that have been shown to actually reduce the number of abortions. Bans don't work, as we've found out since RvW was overturned (abortions have since increased).
I would agree it is probably not possible to travel back in time.
What bothers me is the Republicans pretending to be for life and conducting wars, funding wars and supporting genocide.

Interestingly the Democratic party, historically speaking about 50 years ago, was the the pro life party and the Republicans often were the pro-choice party.
 

JayBird

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Google is your friend.
Your claim is dismissed.

Nor would I, but how is murder the answer?

There are laws against murder. Do you feel it's not the federal governments role to step in and dictate the decision for them?
Again, the specific circumstances I've seen do not constitute "murder".

If you support policies that actually reduce the number of abortions, then you wouldn't be a Kamala Harris supporter. She supports unlimited, government funded abortion, up to and just after birth.
Source or citation for the claim please.

The policies that have been proven to reduce abortions are comprehensive sex ed (reduces unwanted pregnancies), free access to contraception, prenatal care and support, and a strong safety net (sources available on request). Dems tend to support those things, whereas Repubs tend to oppose them.
 

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So he got 15,000 more votes than Kamala Harris has ever had in a Presidential Primary election :)

Non sequitur. There's no comparison. Trump was not <i>selected</i> to run as the Reform Party candidate in the 2000 General election.
This @JayBird guy has more gas to light than the Hindenburg...
 

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My biggest takeaway front the DNC, is that the Dems are the party of the establishment.

The Bidens, the Clintons, the Obamas. These ruling elite families control the Democrat party.

Compared to the new-look GOP, where Trump banished the Bushes, the McCains, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, etc.
 

NightTwister

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Your claim is dismissed.
This is me not caring. You would never be convinced anyway.
Again, the specific circumstances I've seen do not constitute "murder".
There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,... Proverbs 6:16-17
Again, this is a Christian site. That's innocent life that's being taken.
Source or citation for the claim please.
Google is your friend. You say you do research, but then you never do.
The policies that have been proven to reduce abortions are comprehensive sex ed (reduces unwanted pregnancies), free access to contraception, prenatal care and support, and a strong safety net (sources available on request). Dems tend to support those things, whereas Repubs tend to oppose them.
Red Herring fallacy, and lies about Repubs.
 

Cameron143

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Your claim is dismissed.


Again, the specific circumstances I've seen do not constitute "murder".


Source or citation for the claim please.

The policies that have been proven to reduce abortions are comprehensive sex ed (reduces unwanted pregnancies), free access to contraception, prenatal care and support, and a strong safety net (sources available on request). Dems tend to support those things, whereas Repubs tend to oppose them.
You are literally advocating for those whose party is performing free abortions at their convention.
 

cv5

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BREAKING: Sources inside RFK Jr's inner circle have told Alex Jones that RFK Jr will DROP OUT and ENDORSE TRUMP this Friday in Los Angeles

THIS IS GAME CHANGING & EARTH SHATTERING!

"I was able to confirm about an hour ago that RFK junior is going to be endorsing President ago that RFK junior is going to be endorsing President" -
@RealAlexJones


"I also had sources very close to his campaign high up that had told me that he had been gunning up that had told me that he had been gunning the NIH or even the attorney general slot."
 

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You are literally advocating for those whose party is performing free abortions at their convention.
I simply responded to NTs claim that the Dems oppose policies that have been shown to reduce the number of abortions. That's clearly not true.
 

NightTwister

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I simply responded to NTs claim that the Dems oppose policies that have been shown to reduce the number of abortions. That's clearly not true.
They used to claim that, but it was never really true. Now they don't even claim that anymore.
 

NightTwister

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What specifically are you referring to?
You aren't very good at following replies. Research, you say you do it, but you never do. Anyway, you're just trolling here. We know the Harris camp is paying online influencers. Are you being paid by the word or by the comment?