African American that they say committed suicide

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So it seems that the photos were all staged and so it's up to us to see it or not. We could look at it one way or the other but it is like standing on the back of a train talking to a friend and pointing at something and one of your favorite rings goes flying off your finger. You might think that you may never see that ring again but have hope because years later someone might find it and give it back. You might not make sense of this if not a race fan but not only am I a fan but I routed for Petty Racing(RPM now) last week,last year and next week because it's always been my favorite team so I'm guilty of being bias I admit .
Yeah the whole thing is off the wall I'm thinking. My husband likes Nascar but I would rather watch a good mystery movie
 
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lol, I agree we really don't know what is true or not anymore and so it's pretty much left to each one of us to try to figure it out. An example is this https://disrn.com/news/fbi-noose-fo...-actually-bay-door-pull-rope-there-since-2019 ...

In the photo's they are saying are from Talladega (click on the photo's to enlarge) all four are suppose to be from the same garage but if you notice the garage floor is blue in some of the photo's but grey in the others. The post that divides garage 4&5 is red white and blue in one and about 8 to 10 inches wide. In the other it is a different dividing post/wall between garage 4&5 and made out of channel drain sheet metal steel siding(not the same at all).

If you look at the number of knots on the noose/loop pull handle in the link where car 43 is there are approx 3 to 4 wraps on the rope(wraps around the rope) but in this photo released by NASCAR there are 7 or 8 wraps forming a noose https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...noose-found-in-bubba-wallaces-garage-was-real and it does have the steel wall but the photo is from the inside of the garage bay. Here is a closer view of the same noose/rope with 7/8 loops but notice it is a new rope with no grease/dirt which would not be reasonable if mechanics working on race cars would have handled it for the last six months https://wxow.com/2020/06/25/the-noose-was-real-nascar-releases-photo-from-talladega/

So it seems that the photos were all staged and so it's up to us to see it or not. We could look at it one way or the other but it is like standing on the back of a train talking to a friend and pointing at something and one of your favorite rings goes flying off your finger. You might think that you may never see that ring again but have hope because years later someone might find it and give it back. You might not make sense of this if not a race fan but not only am I a fan but I routed for Petty Racing(RPM now) last week,last year and next week because it's always been my favorite team so I'm guilty of being bias I admit .

I apologize for my delay I live outside Houston a bit but grew up between Galveston and Houston on the coast and things are a bit crazy at the moment because of corona virus and I expect that they will have no choice but to shut back down again in the next few days so cash,can goods ect. were today's task. I have many family members living in the Houston area and so the phone has been ringing off the wall(out of wife's purse actually) while we all prepare for the things about to take place. This is real if in doubt,it is surrounding us from every side. Fever it seems is the key thing to look for because allergies don't cause fever in primary systems unless it progresses to a secondary type infection. A headache,fatigue and fever then everyone needs to be tested.

I apologize again for my delay and rambling on but I am not sure what the next few days may bring and so I may be occupied with their events. I suppose I may or may not be able to respond as things progress so please think no ill if I do not answer. I wish that there was not the friction between mankind as there is but the Lord will destroy that wickedness in the brightness of his coming https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+2:8&version=KJV and so we might try to destroy it on our own selves in vein, but if it is to be destroyed by him that is we should understand that it will then still exist at his coming so we will not accomplish it regadless of how had we try. And then so we will divide into either wickedness or love and the one will be removed. One day all will be just and equal and we will dance together and look into our hands and see them full and no longer beg for them to be filled as if they were not.
Congrats for actually taking the time to do your own research from multiple sources. Seriously, good job!
 

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Congrats for actually taking the time to do your own research from multiple sources. Seriously, good job!

The water puddles,look at the noose and the rope after it was cut off and remember that the race was canceled because of rain and raced the next day...
 

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I agree we really don't know what is true or not anymore and so it's pretty much left to each one of us to try to figure it out.
All you have to do is look at the FBI photos of the alleged hate crime scene. That should show you all you need to see. And if the FBI determined that the garage door pull 'rope' had been there since October 2019 then that should tell you all you need to hear.

(I guess it is just a coincidence that it happened right before the new Black Lives Matter car is set to debut?)

 
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You said you weren't aware of any racism against blacks, I was just trying to enlighten you. You can also ask the poster more about their experience. It's that simple. You don't have to remain ignorant. But its up to you.
Please allow me to rephrase what I was trying to say. I don't believe racism exists period, since there is only one human race so the only thing that really exists in that sense is self hatred.

We are all equal before God, but those who hate God also hate their fellow man regardless of skin tone.
White brother hates and kills his brother and black brother hates and kills his brothers, so both are equally wicked before God and man.

I appreciate the fact that African Americans were taken advantage of and abused by some greedy people in the past, but evil has been a big part of the human story from the beginning. Evil is evil, no matter who commits it.

Hatred is on the rise throughout the whole world and it will continue to grow until the Prince of peace comes back to rule the world in righteousness.

The Word of God tells us that the heart of man is wicked above all things, so we can't expect to achieve world peace and tolerance while iniquity reigns in our hearts.
 
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What a bunch of crap! You know what your non racist people in Australia told my dad as late as the sixties? Come work in Australia, we need white men coming here to settle...of course they didn’t know he was a no good Cajun...
OK, I must admit Australians are no different to anyone else. Everyone in the world hates each other, especially family members.
 
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Yes supposedly, because they didn't have CNN or FOX news to document any of the alleged "racist" acts.

You could easily form an incorrect view if you only heard one side of the story. My ancestors recorded some horrific accounts of Aboriginal tribes sneaking into a settlement in the dead of night and murdering every man woman and child. Their only crime was being white skinned.

So there are always two sides to a story, I can't understand why anyone allows hate mongers to fill them with their poison.
 

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All you have to do is look at the FBI photos of the alleged hate crime scene. That should show you all you need to see. And if the FBI determined that the garage door pull 'rope' had been there since October 2019 then that should tell you all you need to hear.

(I guess it is just a coincidence that it happened right before the new Black Lives Matter car is set to debut?)


The photo's though are the problem . If you look at them in post #99 and read everything they said about it they said they cut it down Sunday. In them there is an arrow pointing to a circle meaning "look here" and so that's what everyone sees/does.

So then Sunday they were going to race but around 3 in the afternoon it was rained out and raced on Monday. Now look at the photos again,,, in the photo of the noose the pavement is wet with puddles(so after it rained),,, In the photo of the short rope(cut off) the parking lot is dry so(before it rained). So either they cut it down Monday and not Sunday like they said or they tied another one up after it rained for the photo,,,you choice.
 

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No worries about a delay. I hope we all have a life outside of this forum LOL! Thanks for your thoughtful response.

I sure hope you all do not get shut down again! We are in the country and have not really been affected at all even though my husband goes into the city to work. But FL has not been on the lockdown much of the country has been in and the main concentration of the flu here seems to be in S FL.

Anyway, take care of yourselves and never worry about late answers or even none at all. This isn't a job after all ;)

Thank you, It has been a hectic few days so far one in my family has c-19 and so probably the other 4 will probably also(same house). The things they do though makes no sense that is they tested,confirmed it then sent them to pick up perceptions at Walgreens who transferred it to Kroger's who was also out of the steroids and sent them back to Walgreens who said they don't have any either and so they went back to CLHH who sent them back home.
 

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Thank you, It has been a hectic few days so far one in my family has c-19 and so probably the other 4 will probably also(same house). The things they do though makes no sense that is they tested,confirmed it then sent them to pick up perceptions at Walgreens who transferred it to Kroger's who was also out of the steroids and sent them back to Walgreens who said they don't have any either and so they went back to CLHH who sent them back home.

Sorry to hear that about your family. The follow up sounds more like some kind of torture. Such confusion :oops:
 

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Sorry to hear that about your family. The follow up sounds more like some kind of torture. Such confusion :oops:
Thank you,I have a very large family,my Wife,5 sons,grand children,ggr,grandchildren ect. from both mine and my wife's side. Most of our immediate family is in the Houston area or between there and Mexico but others are in Dominican Republic,Spain France,Amsterdam ect... Just a few months ago I remember us all laughing and talking about whether this was just a hoax or not but nothing is more sobering than when it hits home.

I always believed it was real remembering my parents ect. talking about the pandemic in 1917-19. You would think that we(the US and world) would have been ready for this but it seems to have caught them completely off guard. In the movies about outbreaks the Government has an endless supply of zip up suits and mobile medical supplies but in real life we didn't even have mask because we outsourced everything. I saw a news story that there is a world shortage of medical oxygen.

It seems to me to be mass confusion as to even what we are even suppose to do after being diagnosed. I would think that they were to go home and quarantine but instead they send them back and forth to the pharmacies to fill perceptions and stand in line with who knows how many people when they know they have c-19. It strikes me like were all just standing in line waiting our turn to catch it from whoever just left the hospital to pick up their medicine.
 

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Thank you,I have a very large family,my Wife,5 sons,grand children,ggr,grandchildren ect. from both mine and my wife's side. Most of our immediate family is in the Houston area or between there and Mexico but others are in Dominican Republic,Spain France,Amsterdam ect... Just a few months ago I remember us all laughing and talking about whether this was just a hoax or not but nothing is more sobering than when it hits home.

I always believed it was real remembering my parents ect. talking about the pandemic in 1917-19. You would think that we(the US and world) would have been ready for this but it seems to have caught them completely off guard. In the movies about outbreaks the Government has an endless supply of zip up suits and mobile medical supplies but in real life we didn't even have mask because we outsourced everything. I saw a news story that there is a world shortage of medical oxygen.

It seems to me to be mass confusion as to even what we are even suppose to do after being diagnosed. I would think that they were to go home and quarantine but instead they send them back and forth to the pharmacies to fill perceptions and stand in line with who knows how many people when they know they have c-19. It strikes me like were all just standing in line waiting our turn to catch it from whoever just left the hospital to pick up their medicine.
Things can change very quickly in just one day. If anything, I pray people take note and remember. I have to shake my head over your relatives being sent here and there and making contact with people while they have Covid 19. But you won't hear anything about that on the news.

This is all a real wake up call but I think people have to avail themselves and help themselves and not count on anyone to do it for them. The art of thinking for ourselves needs to be practiced. So much to sift through and so much of it seems to be contradictory and for sure some is just false.

Personally, I don't think we have to look too far as to why it is spiking. Thousands were out on the streets all over the country and many not wearing masks . But where are the references to that?
 

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Things can change very quickly in just one day. If anything, I pray people take note and remember. I have to shake my head over your relatives being sent here and there and making contact with people while they have Covid 19. But you won't hear anything about that on the news.

This is all a real wake up call but I think people have to avail themselves and help themselves and not count on anyone to do it for them. The art of thinking for ourselves needs to be practiced. So much to sift through and so much of it seems to be contradictory and for sure some is just false.

Personally, I don't think we have to look too far as to why it is spiking. Thousands were out on the streets all over the country and many not wearing masks . But where are the references to that?

Yep I have 10 n95 mask left from a box that I had before this all began. I had radiation/chemo for cancer several years ago and a compromised immune sys. so me and my wife began back then using them, wiping down groceries with bleach/water and then taking them into the house ect.... We take the mask off and submerge them in the bleach water a minute or so then rinse the bleach out and hang them to dry. we make the pan of bleach water before we go and take two washrags and dip them in it and squeeze them out and carry them in a sandwich bag to use to sterilize our change,basket handles ect.(so far so good,lol).

My dr. told us the seasonal flu could be critical to me is why we began to do that so when c-19 began it was almost normal. If you use any mask at all then when you breath whatever bacteria,germ ect. is then on the outside of the mask just like the dust collects on an ac filter so be careful taking it off. After you put it in the bleach/water stick your hands in the pan also and then you've sterilized your hands. We also have a tray we keep on the porch with a bleach/h2o towel and step on it to keep from tracking it in the house. then we change and put our clothes in the washer. People are prone to get lazy about things and I notice I get lazy unless strep throat,the flu ect. are going around, but now that c-19 is here I try my best but at times catch myself forgetting to take a rag to the mailbox or grabbing the dumpster handle after the garbage man comes on happy trash day.

I agree though too many people are not wearing mask but it's probably several things, c-19 patients standing in line at the pharmacy,beaches,lake gatherings, ect.... The main cause of the surge at this time I think is that they are treating it as if it's a hurricane,tsunami,earthquake ect. that comes and is bad but then things rebound from it in a few months. This pandemic is probably only just beginning and will probably last years if it is similar to others in the past and so governments are trying to keep the entire wolds economy from crumbling. They know the economy is in a tremendous strain after the few months the different governments were shut down and that if it gets shut back down again for a longer time than before it will completely crumble.

As Christians we know that at some point the Scripture will be fulfilled that no man would buy their merchandise anymore and that those who were made rich would cast dust on their heads so it should not be a surprise to see these many things taking place at once,protest,riots,economy crumbling,c-19(corona-virus/corona=cown,kings from the east=china) that is that man of sin rises at a time of great calamity,distress,lawlessness ect. and is seen as a hero who leads the earth back from that state of decline. So then if the man of sin is to rise and seemingly resolve those calamities then it should not be shocking nor unbelievable to Christians if the protest,c-19,economy ect. does bring the world to it's knees.
 

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For clarification I am not saying that the seals are being opened,the trumpets,Babylon judged ect. by the Lord, but that the devil is mimicking those things prior to his(MoS) coming as if he is showing you a movie of it(the Lords coming) to deceive the world into believing it is now present. The devil duplicates the events of the Lords coming then sets up an false mill. kingdom and rules from it and it is destroyed at our Lords coming.
 
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In what you said before, you were being honest. But now you're being deceptive.
Racism cannot exist, since there's only one human race so I'm being as honest as I can be.

In any case, you would have to agree that the real problem is hatred. Some people are just full of hatred towards everyone regardless of skin color.

The Jews are probably the most hated people in the world, but we never see them protesting in the streets.
 

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I think it does exist but many are blind of it. Take this thread for instance, we are on page 6 about a man who died and was determined a suicide. The idea is that because his death was by hanging then it was done by white men/man. No one has supplied any evidence as to who may have been responsible if it was murder but it's still assumed it was an white man/men who did it.

The truth is he may have walked up on a drug deal and he was seen as a liability and silenced. He may have been involved in things his family knew nothing of and was targeted. There could be any number of possible answers to this including that he was hanged by an white man/men but to assume that he was without evidence and instinctively blame it on a/the white men/man is racism. It is also probably why we are on page 6 and most of us are posting about different subjects waiting to see if evidence will surface or who will blame it on another race without evidence.
 

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Yep I have 10 n95 mask left from a box that I had before this all began. I had radiation/chemo for cancer several years ago and a compromised immune sys. so me and my wife began back then using them, wiping down groceries with bleach/water and then taking them into the house ect.... We take the mask off and submerge them in the bleach water a minute or so then rinse the bleach out and hang them to dry. we make the pan of bleach water before we go and take two washrags and dip them in it and squeeze them out and carry them in a sandwich bag to use to sterilize our change,basket handles ect.(so far so good,lol).

My dr. told us the seasonal flu could be critical to me is why we began to do that so when c-19 began it was almost normal. If you use any mask at all then when you breath whatever bacteria,germ ect. is then on the outside of the mask just like the dust collects on an ac filter so be careful taking it off. After you put it in the bleach/water stick your hands in the pan also and then you've sterilized your hands. We also have a tray we keep on the porch with a bleach/h2o towel and step on it to keep from tracking it in the house. then we change and put our clothes in the washer. People are prone to get lazy about things and I notice I get lazy unless strep throat,the flu ect. are going around, but now that c-19 is here I try my best but at times catch myself forgetting to take a rag to the mailbox or grabbing the dumpster handle after the garbage man comes on happy trash day.

I agree though too many people are not wearing mask but it's probably several things, c-19 patients standing in line at the pharmacy,beaches,lake gatherings, ect.... The main cause of the surge at this time I think is that they are treating it as if it's a hurricane,tsunami,earthquake ect. that comes and is bad but then things rebound from it in a few months. This pandemic is probably only just beginning and will probably last years if it is similar to others in the past and so governments are trying to keep the entire wolds economy from crumbling. They know the economy is in a tremendous strain after the few months the different governments were shut down and that if it gets shut back down again for a longer time than before it will completely crumble.

As Christians we know that at some point the Scripture will be fulfilled that no man would buy their merchandise anymore and that those who were made rich would cast dust on their heads so it should not be a surprise to see these many things taking place at once,protest,riots,economy crumbling,c-19(corona-virus/corona=cown,kings from the east=china) that is that man of sin rises at a time of great calamity,distress,lawlessness ect. and is seen as a hero who leads the earth back from that state of decline. So then if the man of sin is to rise and seemingly resolve those calamities then it should not be shocking nor unbelievable to Christians if the protest,c-19,economy ect. does bring the world to it's knees.
Those are some extreme precautions but could be very good to follow in your case. Also good directions if anyone wants to follow?

Frankly, I used to not be so careful about things. I would not be careful about putting hands near my face when out or not washing my hands after using things others had used, and this was some years back actually. Then I got smart (haha) and started to be careful because I was catching cold or some flu regularly and that gets old. So I always wash my hands the minute I get home or use hand wipes when out and so on. I no longer catch so many colds etc, so that just goes to show you how important it is even without some flu crisis going on! So these precautions work.

I use Lysol and some other things with bleach in because I can't stand the smell of straight up bleach. But I'll use it in the kitchen when cleaning chicken etc (on the counters not the bird)

As Christians we do see the world spiraling down and we know where its headed.