Alexa, Siri, and 1984

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Tommy379

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My work phone has siri. I just asked her who our Lord and savior is..... she responded back with a wikipedia article about Jesus.
 

PennEd

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I just asked both Siri and Alexa about Jesus. They both gave the info from Wikipedia. Not that I doubt anything you all are saying.

Alexa gave an answer on Satan. Siri gives Wikipedia.

What im more concerned with is Facebook. Especially when those games will give you info about yourself that only surveillance would know.

or devils.
Was it your phone or the household speaker device? The article doesn't mention the phone, although it's odd that the phone's response would be different than the speaker.
 
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Such a peculiar title. However, having spoken to atheists, agnostics, secular humanists, Satanists (maybe they just said things like that trying to get a rise out of Christians?), wiccans, polytheists, etc, (the list does tend to go on and on :D) over a period of many years before landing here, I do understand the concept :) They have made an idol out of their pride of life, putting themselves on the throne, which is what we all did in one form or another prior to coming to the cross of Christ. Some are so hardened and hostile in their attitudes toward God, yet would outright deny it, while they dedicated years of their lives arguing against Him, the Bible, religion in general, and Christians in particular!
I think Jeff titled his book that way just to automatically elicit total misunderstanding. Jeff is a devout Christian, and as most people do, you just held up a mirror you might want to look into.

Here is a recent review of the book:

The Atheistic Theist
3rd March 2017 Others' stuff, Reviews

This is my Amazon review of an excellent book by Jeff Turner, whose work I quote a lot on my blog.

The book is called ‘The Atheistic Theist: Why There is No God and You Should Follow Him’

You perhaps think it sounds like a daft title for a Christian book? Read on for clarification!

Jeff Turner is at the same time both extremely perceptive and also very good at expressing his ideas. I’d go so far as to say that he’s one of the clearest Christian thinkers of our generation; I’d even go so far as to say that he is a modern-day C.S. Lewis.

Jeff writes here with refreshing transparency, drawing on his own personal experiences; those of others; others’ ideas; the Scriptures; great Christian thinkers throughout the ages, from Augustine through Calvin, Luther, Edwards and into the modern era. He also quotes from several atheists including (among others) Richard Dawkins, Gene Roddenberry (one of my personal heroes!) and Christopher Hitchens, whom he feels have meaningful things to say in today’s theological dialogues. Indeed, I agree; if the Church only listens to herself, the result is a vicious cycle of inbred thinking with no clear critique or accountability. Jeff uses the atheists’ points of view to hold up a mirror to modern Evangelical theology, and the picture we see is most disturbing.

The idea of the title is that Jesus and the early believers were seen as atheists because they didn’t worship the ‘gods’ of their time, and could therefore be seen as ‘atheists’. In the same way, Jeff argues, we today have lost sight of the God of Jesus and replaced Him with gods of our own; gods created in our own image.

If you are a Christian who has questions about his faith, and about the logical inconsistencies you can’t ignore, if you’re honest, then this is the book for you. Alternatively, if you are an atheist, you might like to take a look too and see how Jeff Turner has addressed some of the points made by other atheists. You may be pleasantly surprised.

I love this book. So many times I have found myself exclaiming aloud, ‘Yes!!’ while reading it. Your thinking is challenged, your assumptions are challenged, but your faith will emerge all the more strengthened for reading this book; your vision of Father God will also take on new hues of grace truth and beauty, instead of those of vengeance and terrible judgement.

If you’ve never read a theology book before, then this one would be a good place to start. Definitely recommended!
 
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Magenta

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There is a video ob youtube by Steven Crowder. I'm not going to link it, because I think their was some f-bombs dropped, but bleeped out. He ask alexa questions about Jesus, and the answers were shocking.
Whoa. I am just listening to it now :eek:
 
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Those knuckle dragging, cave dwelling goat herders were not very smart, after all... according to atheists, who believe they are so much smarter and more rational and logical than anyone who believes in God, Whom they would often refer to as an "invisible friend" as if anyone who does believe in God has no valid reasons for doing so, and may actually be in need of psychiatric care and medications :p
Oh, have I got a book on that subject that you would like. It can be downloaded from the web for free as a PDF.... Psycho-Heresy Revised & Expanded
 

Magenta

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I think Jeff titled his book that way just to automatically elicit total misunderstanding. Jeff is a devout Christian, and as most people do, you just held up a mirror you might want to look into.
Which mirror is that, Willie? The one where I already said, "what we all did in one form or another prior to coming to the cross of Christ"? And having said that, you came to the conclusion that I have not looked in it? I am either missing your point, or you did not comprehend what I said.
 
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Which mirror is that, Willie? The one where I already said, "what we all did in one form or another prior to coming to the cross of Christ"? And having said that, you came to the conclusion that I have not looked in it? I am either missing your point, or you did not comprehend what I said.
No, it is the mirror that shows us what we keep on doing, even after coming to the cross.
 

stonesoffire

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Was it your phone or the household speaker device? The article doesn't mention the phone, although it's odd that the phone's response would be different than the speaker.
siri is on my iPad. Alexa is a device connected through wifi. Cortana is on the computer.

The games on Facebook are like, what is your true nature, catlike, doglike...something stupid like that.
 

stonesoffire

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Penn-ed

I doubt that the answers are different. Just the questions. I just asked who they are.
 

p_rehbein

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There is one commercial where the guy asks Alexa what the sound of one hand clapping is, and she answers it is exactly the same as a high five............WHAT A DUMB answer......

A high five takes TWO hands, and there ACTUALLY is a noise made.......not so with ONE HAND clapping......

STUPID just plain STUPID..........so much for artificial intelligence
 

notuptome

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There is one commercial where the guy asks Alexa what the sound of one hand clapping is, and she answers it is exactly the same as a high five............WHAT A DUMB answer......

A high five takes TWO hands, and there ACTUALLY is a noise made.......not so with ONE HAND clapping......

STUPID just plain STUPID..........so much for artificial intelligence
Garbage in yields garbage out.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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There is no way one of those devices is coming into our home. That said I believe our phones may be listening to us anyhow. For instance, we have spoken about different purchases and had not looked for them online only to find an advertisement of those products show up as ads on our phones.
 

notuptome

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There is no way one of those devices is coming into our home. That said I believe our phones may be listening to us anyhow. For instance, we have spoken about different purchases and had not looked for them online only to find an advertisement of those products show up as ads on our phones.
Huh could be big brother is watching or it could be simple predestination. LOL

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

p_rehbein

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If you have a TV, you also have a camera and microphone watching and listening to you when you are within its range. New TV's come that way............

There is no way one of those devices is coming into our home. That said I believe our phones may be listening to us anyhow. For instance, we have spoken about different purchases and had not looked for them online only to find an advertisement of those products show up as ads on our phones.