Alyssa Milano Calls For A "Sex-Strike" Due To Additional States' New "Heartbeat" Bills

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gb9

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he-rat_of_the_circus-mice said:
I guess it depends on whether Hitler was working with them, or against them. If Hitler was working with them, why should they want him brought to justice? Did you know the US imported many Nazis after World War II, rather than bringing them to trial? Does that not strike you as odd, given that you believe the Nazis were so evil and the Allies so good?

What evidence? Convict him of what? You're not understanding that just because there is evidence that someone murdered 3 women at a Dairy Queen in Bermuda, doesn't make him guilty of ordering the deaths by gassing of 6 million religious adherents. Evidence or proof of one crime isn't proof of another.
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ah, operation paperclip.

this, people, is well worth doing some research on.
 
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he-rat_of_the_circus-mice said:
It is indeed, but some here treat certain holocausts with a religious reverence that in my view should only be reserved for Christ.

I am sorrry that you are pained, but pleased you took time to respond.

Correct. I'm not arguing against Hitler's existence. I am arguing he was not the worst monster that ever lived, and certainly less a monster than most of the Communist monsters of the 20th century, at least so far as the evidence we have indicates.

Correct. But - did Hitler order the extermination of 6 million or more people of any race or religion by gassing, followed by burning, as part of the historic public record? Do we have evidence of this, even off the historic public record, let alone on it? I'm not saying that the evidence doesn't exist, or that it never existed. But do we have it now, or did we ever have it, if it does indeed exist?

How so? My understanding is that the only evidence (if one can call it evidence) that exists of a systematic extermination of 6 million or more people of any particular race or religion by gassing and subsequent burning during World War II, are the testimonies of Nazi officers which were extracted under torture. Other evidences such as gas chambers, eye witness accounts etc. either are the subject of debate after detailed investigation and cross examination, or are inadequate to prove Hitler guilty of the aforementioned crime (possibly lesser crimes, but not the one under consideration). Therefore, if the testimonies of the Nazis are to be used as evidence against Hitler (invalidated in any legitimate court, as all testimony obtained via torture should be), Hitler should surely have the chance to defend himself against such claims? What important fact in the process of justice have I missed, to cause you such pain on this topic?

I think it was more like 20 million deaths in the Holodomor, plus significantly more than 25,000 civilians in the Boer War (victims of the British). So even for these holocausts, if you will, we have a conflict. That's not to say that many people weren't murdered, but it is to say that there is absence of evidence to fully determine the number of victims. For the Stalin-Communist-instigated Ukrainian holocaust - the Holodomor - there is good evidence that the death toll was in multiples of millions. Unfortunately, for the deaths in German concentration camps during World War II, there are only good records of several hundred thousand dying. This is still a terrible statistic, but has any evidence of more than this perishing yet been found? If so, what is it? Also, even if it exists, how does such evidence indicate what religion or nationality the victims were, or doesn't it?
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he-rat_of_the_circus-mice said:
It is indeed, but some here treat certain holocausts with a religious reverence that in my view should only be reserved for Christ.
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Over 6 million innocent souls murdered in cold blood. What a sick thing to say. Trying to look spiritually superior. I'll tell you this, every drop of their blood cries out to God for justice and He has heard them and will exact vengeance on those that committed the atrocities and those who uphold it. Including you.
 
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he-rat_of_the_circus-mice said:
I guess it depends on whether Hitler was working with them, or against them. If Hitler was working with them, why should they want him brought to justice? Did you know the US imported many Nazis after World War II, rather than bringing them to trial? Does that not strike you as odd, given that you believe the Nazis were so evil and the Allies so good?

What evidence? Convict him of what? You're not understanding that just because there is evidence that someone murdered 3 women at a Dairy Queen in Bermuda, doesn't make him guilty of ordering the deaths by gassing of 6 million religious adherents. Evidence or proof of one crime isn't proof of another.
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I'm going to ask you politely to READ what I'm SAYING. I NEVER said 6 million Jews were gassed. You disregarded what I was saying entirely. There IS evidence that he murdered,tortured,gassed Jews. NOT just Nazi testimony of the facts. Eyewitnesses, photos,records. All of which you deny because for some reason you think Jews lied about their experiences in the camps and then the Allies colluded with them and told more lies. Start passing out the tinfoil hats, we're done.
 
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kaylagrl said:
I'm going to ask you politely to READ what I'm SAYING. I NEVER said 6 million Jews were gassed. You disregarded what I was saying entirely. There IS evidence that he murdered,tortured,gassed Jews. NOT just Nazi testimony of the facts. Eyewitnesses, photos,records. All of which you deny because for some reason you think Jews lied about their experiences in the camps and then the Allies colluded with them and told more lies. Start passing out the tinfoil hats, we're done.
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he-rat_of_the_circus-mice said:
I guess it depends on whether Hitler was working with them, or against them. If Hitler was working with them, why should they want him brought to justice? Did you know the US imported many Nazis after World War II, rather than bringing them to trial? Does that not strike you as odd, given that you believe the Nazis were so evil and the Allies so good?

What evidence? Convict him of what? You're not understanding that just because there is evidence that someone murdered 3 women at a Dairy Queen in Bermuda, doesn't make him guilty of ordering the deaths by gassing of 6 million religious adherents. Evidence or proof of one crime isn't proof of another.
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You keep going off into tangents so I am not really sure of the point you are trying to make, even if Hitler or Stalin or another tyrant was a puppet it does not make them less culpable.
 
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he-rat_of_the_circus-mice said:
It is indeed, but some here treat certain holocausts with a religious reverence that in my view should only be reserved for Christ.

I am sorrry that you are pained, but pleased you took time to respond.

Correct. I'm not arguing against Hitler's existence. I am arguing he was not the worst monster that ever lived, and certainly less a monster than most of the Communist monsters of the 20th century, at least so far as the evidence we have indicates.

Correct. But - did Hitler order the extermination of 6 million or more people of any race or religion by gassing, followed by burning, as part of the historic public record? Do we have evidence of this, even off the historic public record, let alone on it? I'm not saying that the evidence doesn't exist, or that it never existed. But do we have it now, or did we ever have it, if it does indeed exist?

How so? My understanding is that the only evidence (if one can call it evidence) that exists of a systematic extermination of 6 million or more people of any particular race or religion by gassing and subsequent burning during World War II, are the testimonies of Nazi officers which were extracted under torture. Other evidences such as gas chambers, eye witness accounts etc. either are the subject of debate after detailed investigation and cross examination, or are inadequate to prove Hitler guilty of the aforementioned crime (possibly lesser crimes, but not the one under consideration). Therefore, if the testimonies of the Nazis are to be used as evidence against Hitler (invalidated in any legitimate court, as all testimony obtained via torture should be), Hitler should surely have the chance to defend himself against such claims? What important fact in the process of justice have I missed, to cause you such pain on this topic?

I think it was more like 20 million deaths in the Holodomor, plus significantly more than 25,000 civilians in the Boer War (victims of the British). So even for these holocausts, if you will, we have a conflict. That's not to say that many people weren't murdered, but it is to say that there is absence of evidence to fully determine the number of victims. For the Stalin-Communist-instigated Ukrainian holocaust - the Holodomor - there is good evidence that the death toll was in multiples of millions. Unfortunately, for the deaths in German concentration camps during World War II, there are only good records of several hundred thousand dying. This is still a terrible statistic, but has any evidence of more than this perishing yet been found? If so, what is it? Also, even if it exists, how does such evidence indicate what religion or nationality the victims were, or doesn't it?
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Is then your main argument that we have no evidence that Hitler was aware of/or ordered the deaths?

You touch on so many things I am finding it difficult to understand you main contention.
 
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kaylagrl said:
I'm going to ask you politely to READ what I'm SAYING. I NEVER said 6 million Jews were gassed. You disregarded what I was saying entirely. There IS evidence that he murdered,tortured,gassed Jews. NOT just Nazi testimony of the facts. Eyewitnesses, photos,records. All of which you deny because for some reason you think Jews lied about their experiences in the camps and then the Allies colluded with them and told more lies. Start passing out the tinfoil hats, we're done.
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you know, flat earthers , moonlanding was faked, holocaust deniers, the jews in Israel know are fake jews, Zionism runs the world, etc..

they are all just different heads of the same delusional snake, that when they find truth, easily provable truth, like many Nazi scientists were brought to America in a program called operation paperclip, they cannot stop there, and keep digging , and end up making things connect that should not be connected....
 
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kaylagrl said:
The fact that Hitler killed himself ought to tell us a lot. If he had proof he didn't commit atrocities why would he not just show the evidence?
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well I wouldn't go by that. troubled people who have killed no one but themself etc

there are, of course, all those speeches he gave..you know...the frothing at the mouth screaming manic 'final solution' thing

kind of raises an eyebrow
 
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7seasrekeyed

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so getting back to the sex strike

anybody know if it's working? :geek:
 
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It probably never even got started. The liberals are to debabacurous and hedonistic to pull off anything that would disrupt their unbridled lust.
 
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JosephsDreams said:
It probably never even got started. The liberals are to debabacurous and hedonistic to pull off anything that would disrupt their unbridled lust.
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when you are a militant female, you believe you have the authority to tell others what to do, how and when and they will listen

that crazy gathering of thousands with the bizarre hats right after the 2016 election and whats her name (another actress) yelling she was a 'nasty woman or female'

like speak for yourself honey and you are probably right :rolleyes:
 
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7seasrekeyed said:
when you are a militant female, you believe you have the authority to tell others what to do, how and when and they will listen

that crazy gathering of thousands with the bizarre hats right after the 2016 election and whats her name (another actress) yelling she was a 'nasty woman or female'

like speak for yourself honey and you are probably right :rolleyes:
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Their crazy. And control freaks.
 
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