And, Again, People Misstate the Truth

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KimPetras

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I'm not sure why Trump attacked Cruz's wife...


She looks absolutely beautiful to me... It's Cruz's first wife at least... She didn't get paid taking off her clothes for money nor did Cruz post the picture of Melania.
 
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p_rehbein said:
Well, I don't know..............I mean, it's not like he stood in the middle of 5th Ave. and actually shot someone...........he just took to Twitter and did a hit job on a Lady he doesn't even know.

Shoot, he does hit jobs on women all the time, ain't hurt him yet.......other than the occasional Alimony Check I suppose.
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What I don't understand about the posters here are that they can see the corruption in Hillary Clinton, but not in Trump.

If Hillary did/said what Trump has done/said, you know people would be using it against her (rightfully so too). It's a complete double-standard.
 
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What I don't understand about the posters here are that they can see the corruption in Hillary Clinton, but not in Trump.

If Hillary did/said what Trump has done/said, you know people would be using it against her (rightfully so too). It's a complete double-standard.
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To be fair........his DETRACTORS are using what he has said/done against him, just as Hillary's are against her......

It's just that his supporters don't care...............nor hers.......
 
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Dr. Carson will not denounce Trumps Tweet concerning Mrs. Cruz.

(He is on FNC now)

Says it is what we have come to accept........the way it is.......

Not what I would have expected from him, but I never expected him to endorse Trump either.........so, don't go by my expectations........ :)
 
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p_rehbein said:
To be fair........his DETRACTORS are using what he has said/done against him, just as Hillary's are against her......

It's just that his supporters don't care...............nor hers.......
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It's not that we don't care. It's that it's apples and oranges. Hillary is a bought and paid for politician. She has committed treasonous acts against our nation because she accepted money to do it. Trump gave money to politicians for a tax write off and to increase his chances for zoning variances for his realestate business.
 
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It's not that we don't care. It's that it's apples and oranges. Hillary is a bought and paid for politician. She has committed treasonous acts against our nation because she accepted money to do it. Trump gave money to politicians for a tax write off and to increase his chances for zoning variances for his realestate business.
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So, Trump (being one of those who bought and paid for Hillary and other Politicians) is not just as guilty of her "treasonous acts" as his wealth put/kept them in their positions of power?

When one buys a Politician...........is one not then accountable for that Politicians actions?

If I buy a dog...........am I not accountable for what that dog does? Like attack a person, a small child, or such?

It really is that y'all don't care..............he gets a "pass" on every silly, stupid, cruel, ugly thing he does/says. Really, he does. I just wonder what it will take before supporters say......

Wait........WHUT?

He did/said WHUT?

Well, that's it.........he just lost me.

Will it take his releasing private health records of Mrs. Cruz from when she suffered from depression years ago? Will that be an ugly and cruel enough act for him to begin to lose supporters? This has been mentioned on FNC today btw.

Does he ACTUALLY have to shoot and kill someone?

What will it take?
 
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Sirk said:
It's not that we don't care. It's that it's apples and oranges. Hillary is a bought and paid for politician. She has committed treasonous acts against our nation because she accepted money to do it. Trump gave money to politicians for a tax write off and to increase his chances for zoning variances for his realestate business.
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You're right. God views their sins entirely differently so it makes common sense to give Trump a pass but not Hillary... since hers are greater.
 
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p_rehbein said:
So, Trump (being one of those who bought and paid for Hillary and other Politicians) is not just as guilty of her "treasonous acts" as his wealth put/kept them in their positions of power?

When one buys a Politician...........is one not then accountable for that Politicians actions?

If I buy a dog...........am I not accountable for what that dog does? Like attack a person, a small child, or such?

It really is that y'all don't care..............he gets a "pass" on every silly, stupid, cruel, ugly thing he does/says. Really, he does. I just wonder what it will take before supporters say......

Wait........WHUT?

He did/said WHUT?

Well, that's it.........he just lost me.

Will it take his releasing private health records of Mrs. Cruz from when she suffered from depression years ago? Will that be an ugly and cruel enough act for him to begin to lose supporters? This has been mentioned on FNC today btw.

Does he ACTUALLY have to shoot and kill someone?

What will it take?
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Trump wasn't asking her to sell military secrets to China or to himself. By that standard, everyone who voted for or supported Obama should go to the gallows with him.
 
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Not just that P_rehbein, but Trump even endorsed her treasonous crimes when he says she is one of the best secretary of states in history (in 2013).

His Trump supporters will say "Naw, he's just a smart business man who said things he doesn't mean. He's not a liar though, nor is he willing to do/say anything to win..."
 
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Trump wasn't asking her to sell military secrets to China or to himself.
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Trump WAS FUNDING her. Political operatives like Trump used to be are just as responsible for the acts of those they keep in power as those in power who do such things.

It's like someone voting for a person who FULLY SUPPORTS LATE TERM ABORTION, and then saying, but, hey, I am Pro Life.......it doesn't work that way.
 
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p_rehbein said:
Trump WAS FUNDING her. Political operatives like Trump used to be are just as responsible for the acts of those they keep in power as those in power who do such things.

It's like someone voting for a person who FULLY SUPPORTS LATE TERM ABORTION, and then saying, but, hey, I am Pro Life.......it doesn't work that way.
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But everybody does it. Lots of Christians voted for Obama. Bill Hybels did. By that standard everyone in America is guilty of supporting a crooked politician at one time or another. Why is Trump the only one held to that standard?
 
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But everybody does it. Lots of Christians voted for Obama. Bill Hybels did. By that standard everyone in America is guilty of supporting a crooked politician at one time or another. Why is Trump the only one held to that standard?
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He isn't the only one held to that standard! Do you not read the facts we spew about Hillary?! lol He just has exponentially more skeletons than most other candidates. The only one comparable to him is Hillary Clinton.

But on this forum, Trump can do no wrong for many posters.
 
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He isn't the only one held to that standard! Do you not read the facts we spew about Hillary?! lol He just has exponentially more skeletons than most other candidates. The only one comparable to him is Hillary Clinton.

But on this forum, Trump can do no wrong for many posters.
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What did he do wrong? Did he sell state secrets? Did he engage in insider trading? Did he get his top diplomat killed lie and do nothing about it. At worse he's told the truth about politicians and what they are...cuz he had to play their game and knows them inside and out.
 
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What did he do wrong? Did he sell state secrets? Did he engage in insider trading? Did he get his top diplomat killed lie and do nothing about it. At worse he's told the truth about politicians and what they are...cuz he had to play their game and knows them inside and out.
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Not directly, but an argument has been made he's done so by proxy.

Furthermore, he's condone the person who DID all those things... both verbally and financially. This is why for me it's first, #AnybodyButHillary, then it's #AnybodyButTrump.
 
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But everybody does it. Lots of Christians voted for Obama. Bill Hybels did. By that standard everyone in America is guilty of supporting a crooked politician at one time or another. Why is Trump the only one held to that standard?
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I didn't hold JUST HIM to that standard.....said the same about Hillary, and ain't been real nice to Cruz either......as for Christians voting for Obama, I don't know any that did.......and, in my personal opinion, if a person votes for someone that supports abortion on demand, at any stage, they are as guilty of the murdered children as the Politician who legalizes it, and the Dr. who preforms the abortion. But, now, that's just me.

O'tay, brother, I gotta start looking around to see what I'm gonna do about supper........I'm da cook here....... sigh .......

But I do want you to think about what I asked.......you don't have to post your answer here, you can PM me if you would rather.......but........

What, exactly, would Trump have to do or say for YOU to go.......Hey, wait, that's too far, forget him!

God bless you 'n' yours............and I'll see ya tomorrow.
 
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KimPetras said:
Not directly, but an argument has been made he's done so by proxy.

Furthermore, he's condone the person who DID all those things... both verbally and financially. This is why for me it's first, #AnybodyButHillary, then it's #AnybodyButTrump.
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So have millions of Americans....by that standard, all those Americans should have their right to vote revoked. Because obviously they are complicit in Hillarys crimes.
 
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p_rehbein said:
What, exactly, would Trump have to do or say for YOU to go.......Hey, wait, that's too far, forget him!
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I'm curious what any Trump supporter's response is to this. It's not a rhetorical question.
 
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So have millions of Americans....by that standard, all those Americans should have their right to vote revoked. Because obviously they are complicit in Hillarys crimes.
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I'm not arguing for their "right to vote" be revoked... just their right to run for president. Huge and exponential difference. No?

I'm even really okay with them being able to run for president... I just hope people would see them for what they really are and not vote for them. That would be the most ideal scenario.
 
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With Trump vs Hillary we have to choose between:

A.) A person who committed treasonous acts.
B.) A person who supported the person who committed treasonous acts after she committed them.

Obviously, option B is the lesser evil, but I want a different option. :(
 
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KimPetras said:
I'm not arguing for their "right to vote" be revoked... just their right to run for president. Huge and exponential difference. No?

I'm even really okay with them being able to run for president... I just hope people would see them for what they really are and not vote for them. That would be the most ideal scenario.
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I was trying to think of a difference and I really couldn't come up with one. My view is that Trump is wanting to fix a system that he got to a point in his life that he absolutely loathes.
 
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