Arizona woman pleads guilty to ballot harvesting in 2020 election

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ChristianTonyB

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This is why it is essential to respond to these allegations and do a complete audit that the entire country can trust. At this point 50% of the country thinks the elections are fraudulent. That is catastrophic for a democracy. If they do not deal with this in a transparent, trustworthy and credible way the country will be split in two.

It is an outrage that they ignore, belittle, and insult 50% of this country the way they have for the last 17 months.

I was a teacher, our school was audited every 2-3 years. It is absurd that we can send tens of billions of dollars to Ukraine but we can't do an audit of our election.
Yep. They need to address it, without bias except for finding out the truth, and quickly. If they don't then the US might implode, which would not only be a very sad event for the US, but for the whole world.

I know I've said it before, and I'm probably sounding like an annoying clanging bell, but IMO partisan adversarial systems of government are the bane of good governance. You couldn't effectively run a corporation with such a system being used in the boardroom. You'd scream 'foul' if you were a shareholder.
 

ZNP

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Yep. They need to address it, without bias except for finding out the truth, and quickly. If they don't then the US might implode, which would not only be a very sad event for the US, but for the whole world.
It seems to me the only people who would be against finding out the truth would be criminals. That tells me that at least 90% of Americans and most likely 95% should be for this.

I know I've said it before, and I'm probably sounding like an annoying clanging bell, but IMO partisan adversarial systems of government are the bane of good governance. You couldn't effectively run a corporation with such a system being used in the boardroom. You'd scream 'foul' if you were a shareholder.
I believe we have an adversarial system because the world is under the hand of Satan.

The big thing I learned from the three movies is that we have the evidence, we have the witnesses. All of the Data transfer between the dominion machines during the 2020 election was captured by the "Star Wars" wing of the military. All of Zuckerbergs malfeasance was captured on bank records. All of the ballot stuffing was caught on cell phone geotracking data. As you have irrefutable evidence on the pawns being involved in election fraud you can cut them deals for their testimony and move up the food chain. At this point we should have every single name of the people involved in this fraud as well as irrefutable evidence. Once you get a few whistle blowers in the mix the rats flee the sinking ship.

What you are not going to see is this prosecuted one person at a time. No one cares about some guy on welfare paid $5 per ballot he stuffed. It isn't worth the trial and you don't want to be public about it. What I do care about is his testimony of who paid him and how the system worked. Can he identify this person in a lineup. Can I get that person to testify once I have built an ironclad case against them?

We will see this once they announce the election is decertified and Trump is the winner. Then they will give all the evidence they have accumulated.
 

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As I understand it, the two elderly ladies got a bit over enthusiastic in making sure everyone they knew cast a properly filled out vote, so they foolishly helped them fill out their votes and collected them from the voters.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there were only a handful of votes involved. The prosecutors accepted the ladies claims that they had no malicious intent to pervert the electoral system. The incident doesn't seem to paint a picture of widespread fraud!
You seriously need to watch the movie. There were thousands of people driving around all hours of the night stuffing mail boxes with multiple ballots.....and other evidence. Anyone who watches the movie will be shocked to realize how wide spread the fraud was. And the people who made the movie have thousands of more hours of evidence they are going to end up dumping on the ole interweb.
 

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We will decertify the 2020 election for Biden
 

Nehemiah6

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If there's evidence of fraud or misdemeanour, it should be put before the courts.
The Supreme Court of the United States BLATANTLY refused to examine the evidence, after 17 states filed a lawsuit challenging the 2020 election. Why? Because they were colluding with the fraudsters. The Supreme Court had a legal and moral obligation to halt everything until this matter had been thoroughly investigated. But they chose to violate their oaths of office, and now some of them are under the threat of assassination, from the same people with whom they colluded.
 

ZNP

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The Supreme Court of the United States BLATANTLY refused to examine the evidence, after 17 states filed a lawsuit challenging the 2020 election. Why? Because they were colluding with the fraudsters. The Supreme Court had a legal and moral obligation to halt everything until this matter had been thoroughly investigated. But they chose to violate their oaths of office, and now some of them are under the threat of assassination, from the same people with whom they colluded.
No one wants to touch this with a ten foot pole, you are accusing the people in power of treason. 9 Supreme court justices could easily be silenced.

The allegations of fraud include treason and colluding with a foreign power. Therefore this must be handled by a military tribunal, not some poor judge in a local courthouse. When you bring a case you have to consider what the proper venue is and which judge has the authority. If you accusing the federal government of being illegitimate then the Supreme court should recuse themselves.

The county commissioners in some states and the attorney generals in others are the ones who have the authority over elections. They are the ones who can fix the election laws to prevent future fraud. In some cases they may even decide to decertify the election.

Mike Lindell is pushing on both fronts, to get the election officials to prevent the use of machines in their county, so far he has 110 counties out of 3,000 nationwide deciding to get rid of the machines. They have other states that are passing laws that the ballot boxes must be under 24 hour surveillance. So he is moving to make the 2022 election safe and if that happens you can be sure that both the house and the senate will flip and then we will have hearings.

At the same time he is moving along with others to get election officials to audit elections and even decertify the election. Texas and Arizona both have officials who have officially requested a decertification of the election.